Hi Amanda, It sounds like I will need to go both the Tralee and the Killarney libraries so I will need a car. I am in London for a conference and will be going to Ireland for a few days after the conference before heading back home to Seattle (and 4 children....). I can't really afford to take more than a few days so my time there will be focused on trying to locate my g-grandmother's family. Unfortunately, I don't have very much to go on. I'd like to find a place to stay that would be good for a single traveler and that is close to town. It has been years since I drove on the left side of the road so I am a little nervous about that-especially without a passenger to yell at me if I end up on the wrong side of the road! It should be a grand adventure, eh? Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Clifford" <mave77@comcast.net> To: "'Donna Russell'" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi there, I would certainly recommend the flexibility of a car in Ireland - I only went to Killarney briefly but I do know from my experience in other parts of southwest Ireland that having the freedom of a car is imperative. Even if the train does go out there, the times/schedules are all weird, and then you are completely dependent on the train for your transportation - so I would highly recommend renting a car esp. if your genealogy hunting leads you in a direction a train doesn't go. I don't know if you've gotten any recommendations on places to stay, but a friend of mine on the glamorgan/wales rootsweb board was recently in Killarney, and I've written him for advice for you just in case you don't have any leads - he'll either write you directly or pass the info along to me to pass to you. When do you leave again? In any event, you're going to have a fantastic time - Ireland is such a magical place - and even if you don't get all the research that you hope to get done done while you're over there, you'll have a wonderful time - and just remember, even if you're not in the exact place that your ancestors were from and even if you can't find that exact place while you're over there, the people are fantastic, and they are representative of all of our heritage - so enjoy yourself :) As a side note, personally, I found Killarney a bit touristy and a little Hollywood Irish, if you catch my drift - of course, if you're researching family, you should spend as much time as you can there - but if you have the opportunity and the inclination, do do the Ring of Kerry, and check out some of the more south westerly towns which are very unique and authentic, in my opinion. In particular, if you make it to Caherciveen, drive around there and check out the ruins - and go the to the Fertha bar and pub - ask for Noel Kelleher the owner - wonderful man who knows much about the country and is helpful in terms of genealogy advice - Anyway, I'll let you know if my friend has any tips on places to stay and please feel free to ask any questions :) -A -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna Russell Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:34 PM To: Fintan Sheehan Cc: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans I haven't made the reservations yet. I'll be flying out of London and was thinking Shannon--what would you recommend? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi, what airport are u flying into? Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> To: mchicoine@linkline.com Cc: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 9:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi Maureen, Thank you for looking that up for me! I was out late last night with the kids getting our Harry Potter book--I think we made it to bed about 1:00 AM... So all of those Timothy Sullivan's can be looked up through the Killarney Parish? My biggest obstacle is that I don't know Timothy's wife's name (my g-g-grandmother) and I don't know if they had more children than Honora and John (though I'd be surprised if they didn't). I tracked down a distant cousin whose grandmother was one of Honora's daughters. According to my cousin, on the night her grandmother died, all of her things were carried out of the house and burned!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing? Probably all of the information on our family in Ireland was destroyed that night...All I can think of is that they must have had way too much to drink at the wake. How do I get to the Casey Collection online? I went to the link but couldn't find it. I think I can order it from a nearby LDS library. Sorry for asking these questions but I am woefully uninformed I think. Also, Can you recommend a place to stay in Killarney? I am also wondering the best way to get to Killarney from the airport--is there a train or do I rent a car? Thanks! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > Hi Donna - you are looking for one of the most common Irish names but I > see some possibilities in the Killarney records - if you search on family > search using the batch number for the Casey collection you can narrow it > down. It will give you all the Sullivan children born to a Timothy > Sullivan - so you have his wife's name - that would narrow it down > further.(don't go to the local parish looking for a sullivan - they won't > be able to help!) I found several Timothy's in the Griffiths index. Second > word is street or town land in the civil parish of Killarney which pretty > much corresponds to the Catholic parish. > > Sullivan Timothy Ballahacommane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Fleming's Lane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Green Lane Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Knockaninane West Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Teernaboul Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Jr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Sr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timy. Knocknahoe Killlarney > > If you have the list of John's or Hanoras children and they had boys you > might want to run those names for other brothers - I didn't run TY which > is also used for Timothy - you might want to try that. Several of the > Casey records use Ty for Timothy - chances are Sullivans in same townland > or street are related - see above where a father and son are listed in the > same street. > > Some of these streets may still exist - I think there is a Killarney map > on line you can use - > > The church - St. Mary's R. C. Cathedral is one of the loveliest in Ireland > - designed by famour architect Pugin - built between 1853 and the turn of > the century - interior reminds me of the ancient stone work in early > Christian churches you see on Skellig Michael and Dingle. There is a > famine graveyard out front (children) (Other Catholic church in town is > later date) The Killarney records date from late 1700's so there was > probably an earlier Catholic Chapel before the 1825 law allowing Catholics > more freedom of religion in Ireland. > > Good luck > Once again - Maureen in Southern California > Researching Leary/Callahan/Walsh "near Killarney" (probably Rathmore - > about 5 miles away) > > > > Hi All, > I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my trip > by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my > first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my > g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a > brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy > Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in 1866--that, > and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. > So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I start? > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Donna > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now that is the right attuded .Do it and enjoy All the civilised people drive on the right side of the road I have to tell you Donna . Enjoy every second and I am sure you will get lot's of help in both Librarys . Take time to smell the flowers Just look on the internet for some where to stay .B&B's are great. Trish in Sydny Hi Amanda, It sounds like I will need to go both the Tralee and the Killarney libraries so I will need a car. I am in London for a conference and will be going to Ireland for a few days after the conference before heading back home to Seattle (and 4 children....). I can't really afford to take more than a few days so my time there will be focused on trying to locate my g-grandmother's family. Unfortunately, I don't have very much to go on. I'd like to find a place to stay that would be good for a single traveler and that is close to town. It has been years since I drove on the left side of the road so I am a little nervous about that-especially without a passenger to yell at me if I end up on the wrong side of the road! It should be a grand adventure, eh? Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Clifford" <mave77@comcast.net> To: "'Donna Russell'" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi there, I would certainly recommend the flexibility of a car in Ireland - I only went to Killarney briefly but I do know from my experience in other parts of southwest Ireland that having the freedom of a car is imperative. Even if the train does go out there, the times/schedules are all weird, and then you are completely dependent on the train for your transportation - so I would highly recommend renting a car esp. if your genealogy hunting leads you in a direction a train doesn't go. I don't know if you've gotten any recommendations on places to stay, but a friend of mine on the glamorgan/wales rootsweb board was recently in Killarney, and I've written him for advice for you just in case you don't have any leads - he'll either write you directly or pass the info along to me to pass to you. When do you leave again? In any event, you're going to have a fantastic time - Ireland is such a magical place - and even if you don't get all the research that you hope to get done done while you're over there, you'll have a wonderful time - and just remember, even if you're not in the exact place that your ancestors were from and even if you can't find that exact place while you're over there, the people are fantastic, and they are representative of all of our heritage - so enjoy yourself :) As a side note, personally, I found Killarney a bit touristy and a little Hollywood Irish, if you catch my drift - of course, if you're researching family, you should spend as much time as you can there - but if you have the opportunity and the inclination, do do the Ring of Kerry, and check out some of the more south westerly towns which are very unique and authentic, in my opinion. In particular, if you make it to Caherciveen, drive around there and check out the ruins - and go the to the Fertha bar and pub - ask for Noel Kelleher the owner - wonderful man who knows much about the country and is helpful in terms of genealogy advice - Anyway, I'll let you know if my friend has any tips on places to stay and please feel free to ask any questions :) -A -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna Russell Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:34 PM To: Fintan Sheehan Cc: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans I haven't made the reservations yet. I'll be flying out of London and was thinking Shannon--what would you recommend? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi, what airport are u flying into? Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> To: mchicoine@linkline.com Cc: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 9:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi Maureen, Thank you for looking that up for me! I was out late last night with the kids getting our Harry Potter book--I think we made it to bed about 1:00 AM... So all of those Timothy Sullivan's can be looked up through the Killarney Parish? My biggest obstacle is that I don't know Timothy's wife's name (my g-g-grandmother) and I don't know if they had more children than Honora and John (though I'd be surprised if they didn't). I tracked down a distant cousin whose grandmother was one of Honora's daughters. According to my cousin, on the night her grandmother died, all of her things were carried out of the house and burned!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing? Probably all of the information on our family in Ireland was destroyed that night...All I can think of is that they must have had way too much to drink at the wake. How do I get to the Casey Collection online? I went to the link but couldn't find it. I think I can order it from a nearby LDS library. Sorry for asking these questions but I am woefully uninformed I think. Also, Can you recommend a place to stay in Killarney? I am also wondering the best way to get to Killarney from the airport--is there a train or do I rent a car? Thanks! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > Hi Donna - you are looking for one of the most common Irish names but I > see some possibilities in the Killarney records - if you search on family > search using the batch number for the Casey collection you can narrow it > down. It will give you all the Sullivan children born to a Timothy > Sullivan - so you have his wife's name - that would narrow it down > further.(don't go to the local parish looking for a sullivan - they won't > be able to help!) I found several Timothy's in the Griffiths index. Second > word is street or town land in the civil parish of Killarney which pretty > much corresponds to the Catholic parish. > > Sullivan Timothy Ballahacommane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Fleming's Lane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Green Lane Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Knockaninane West Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Teernaboul Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Jr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Sr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timy. Knocknahoe Killlarney > > If you have the list of John's or Hanoras children and they had boys you > might want to run those names for other brothers - I didn't run TY which > is also used for Timothy - you might want to try that. Several of the > Casey records use Ty for Timothy - chances are Sullivans in same townland > or street are related - see above where a father and son are listed in the > same street. > > Some of these streets may still exist - I think there is a Killarney map > on line you can use - > > The church - St. Mary's R. C. Cathedral is one of the loveliest in Ireland > - designed by famour architect Pugin - built between 1853 and the turn of > the century - interior reminds me of the ancient stone work in early > Christian churches you see on Skellig Michael and Dingle. There is a > famine graveyard out front (children) (Other Catholic church in town is > later date) The Killarney records date from late 1700's so there was > probably an earlier Catholic Chapel before the 1825 law allowing Catholics > more freedom of religion in Ireland. > > Good luck > Once again - Maureen in Southern California > Researching Leary/Callahan/Walsh "near Killarney" (probably Rathmore - > about 5 miles away) > > > > Hi All, > I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my trip > by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my > first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my > g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a > brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy > Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in 1866--that, > and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. > So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I start? > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Donna > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. 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Hi, I don't know enough of my O'Sullivan (Sullivan) family to contribute but here is the little I have--just in case. Timothy O'Sullivan & Frances McKnightly (sp?) Their daughter, Johanna married John LYONS. John LYONS died in Ireland (I think)--Johanna & her youngest dau, Johanna(b.abt 1873) came to the US about 1891-3. Johanna married Daniel SHEEHAN--they are my grparents. Johanna Sr died in 1915--was about 85-90yo. She had 8 children or which 4 were living in 1910; all in the US Unfortunately, the Civil Registration records that I have been looking for Johanna (b. 7/1873 I think) are of poor quality & I can't read them I believe that these LYONS are from Co Kerry because Johanna's sister, Mary Lyons O'CONNOR's tombstone lists" b. Co Kerry, Ireland". I suspect my Lyons' are from the Castleisland area of Co Kerry---so perhaps my O'Sullivans are too.My Sheehans are from Knocknagaschal/Brosna. Will gladly share-- Molly (in Arizona where it has FINALLY rained!) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7