I may be mistaken but I believe the current testing to determine whether someone is related can be done only on the paternal line, e.g. males with the same surnames. So the situation described earlier, where there are some women in the lineage, wouldn't work because you're tracking Y chromosomes, which women do not have. The alternative is mitochondrial DNA, which we all get from our mothers. So, in such a case, the lineage would be my mother to her mother to her mother, etc. Is this correct? -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 7:07 pm Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24 Today's Topics: 1. Kerry Trip - April (Jeanne Reilly) 2. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 (mldanahy@olemiss.edu) 3. DNA (Sandy Stegmayer) 4. Re: DNA (Helen Templeton) 5. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Ray Marshall) 6. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) 7. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Ray Marshall) 8. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) 9. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Dan and GiGi Brakeville) 10. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Lizziems@aol.com) 11. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:03:10 -0500 From: "Jeanne Reilly" <reillja@ec.rr.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry Trip - April To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c861b6$8433f980$6801a8c0@DGS6L391> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My husband and I are travelling to Kerry April 18th thru April 27and I wanted to get some advice as to how we should dress for that time of the year. Also has anyone had any experience renting a cell phone for use while traveling in Ireland. Thank you. Jeanne ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:10:20 -0600 From: mldanahy@olemiss.edu Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <479dfe6c.1ca.f9e.30430@olemiss.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dearest Jack , Please be assured with regard to the population of that cemetery that none of the original inhabitants has moved. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:14:02 -0500 From: "Sandy Stegmayer" <ssteg@comcast.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] DNA To: "kerry list" <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003a01c861ea$53a56950$6401a8c0@sandy3bb23bedb> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Listers, Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common ancestor. As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular lab was ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab would be greatly appreciated. Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the connection is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes through my father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with the same surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I need to have one of my brothers be tested? Thank you, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:32:12 -0600 From: Helen Templeton <h.templeton@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] DNA To: Sandy Stegmayer <ssteg@comcast.net> Cc: kerry list <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DFED7EC0-65F6-4BD7-9BA3-56627032D4FE@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am not an expert but I do believe that the brother will have to be tested. Males get Y-DNA from their fathers and mtDNA from their mothers. Females get only mtDNA from their mothers. HT On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Sandy Stegmayer wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common > ancestor. > As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA > discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular > lab was > ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab > would be > greatly appreciated. > > Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the > connection > is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes > through my > father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with > the same > surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I > need to > have one of my brothers be tested? > > > > Thank you, > > Sandy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:33:34 -0600 From: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, "Jack Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Message-ID: <017a01c861f5$70ca7f60$0200a8c0@adminbb3d62255> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Boy, that's a relief! Afraid of Ghosts in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mldanahy@olemiss.edu Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:10 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 Dearest Jack , Please be assured with regard to the population of that cemetery that none of the original inhabitants has moved. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:37:31 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00a601c861f5$fcb7b9c0$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:18:10 -0600 From: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "'John L. Sweeney'" <sweelab@enter.net>, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <019c01c861fb$aaed40a0$0200a8c0@adminbb3d62255> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Weeeeellllll. Family history is a different matter. While if Jeremiah Reidy should stop by some afternoon and fill me in on some of those unanswered questions that I have, I wouldn't object. But if all of a sudden a bunch of Sweeney ghosts were prowling around the back yard and premises, that might be a bit disconcerting. Or Amish ghosts full of "thee's" and "thou's" and "thine's." Maybe a good compromise might be the gift of "bi-location" for genealogists so that we could go back and chat with ancestors when they were still alive. After all, we know how doddering some geezers get towards the end of their days, so it'd be better if we could ask those questions when they were still in the prime of life and full of "vim (or something) and vinegar." Although I suppose they might be disconcerted by very specific questions about their families. We would have to rely on the old standby "I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you." Ray Still afraid of ghosts in MN -----Original Message----- From: John L. Sweeney [mailto:sweelab@enter.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:38 PM To: Ray Marshall; mldanahy@olemiss.edu; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Occupants! Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:50:02 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002501c86200$1e5b96a0$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dan and GiGi Brakeville <snoopy8u@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net>, Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net>, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <956314.27947.qm@web56015.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have to agree with Jack in all he says :) You would be amazed at what you can hear. GiGi In Virginia but packing for California :) "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> wrote: Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:26:20 EST From: Lizziems@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: snoopy8u@yahoo.com, sweelab@enter.net, raymarsh@mninter.net, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c57.25c4b085.34cfccac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Nice to see the boys back here bantering again. I rather missed some of the chatter. Liz in Usually Warm and Sunny Florida, presently having a few days of below normal weather. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:06:19 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: <Lizziems@aol.com>, <snoopy8u@yahoo.com>, <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001201c86213$28314f40$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi GiGi & Liz: It's so nice and reassuring to realize I had been missed. Actually, it was my own fault to have relinquished my passion in favor of the good sense of the likes of Ray. I'll pay more attention from now on. Perhaps change something in my diet or the stuff I've been smoking for the past few months. Love, Jack Sweeney, in very dark but not too cold Palmer, Pennsylvania ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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