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    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874
    2. Reg Volk
    3. (Note that Tralee and Blennerville are the same port) There were no deep water ports in Ireland. So where did the Irish board the boats? Well, some sailed from Tralee, Cork City, and Cobh even before 1862. By that time a railroad had been completed from Tralee to Cobh, so few left from Tralee anymore, most went to Cobh or Cork to start their journey. Making Cork the last port of call put the ships in warmer and more gentle waters and were on the English route from Plymouth to the new world. Many of the people that "went from Cork" actually went from Cobh. Sailing out of Cobh/Cove, the Port of Cork, the large ships would anchor at sea and they would ferry the "topping off passengers" out to the ship. Ships also left from Limerick to Canada, taking people and bringing back lumber. The only main ports of departure from Ireland were (1) going to Liverpool, mostly families from the northern counties did that (2) Cobh/Queenstown, mostly from the southern ports and (3) some northern people also went to Glasgow. In much earlier years there were also departures from other ports such as Larne. The major ports for the years of 1846-1851 were Dublin, Newery, Galway, Cork, Limerick, Belfast, Londonderry, Waterford, Liverpool and Silgo. Kerry Census 1841: 293,880 Estimated Census 1851: 238,000 1841 -1851 Populaton Decrease: 19% Estimated Deaths 1845-1850: 32,000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <[email protected]> To: "Jenny B" <[email protected]>; "'Kerry List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874 > It seems that Blennerville was mainly used during the Famine Years > 1845-1848 but... > > I would ask your question of Riobard O'Dwyer or try this site: > > http://migration.ucc.ie/indexemigration.htm > > CHEERS-Reg-Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny B" <[email protected]> > To: "'Kerry List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:11 PM > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874 > > >>I appreciate I am in all probability not going to obtain a positive >>location - I am looking more for the most likely departure point. >> >> My great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE left Gravesend on 18 September 1874 >> bound for New Zealand aboard the Geraldine Paget. I have copies of the >> passenger lists, Surgeons Report etc and the newspaper reports of the >> voyage as published in the Christchurch Star after the arrival of the >> ship at Lyttelton. >> >> The Captains report makes no mention of the ship having called at any >> ports, for passengers to embark, after it had left Gravesend therefore it >> is safe to assume that Tim had to make his way from his townland of >> Dromavalla in the Parish of Ballymacelligott to Gravesend. >> >> This was 1874 - was Blennerville being used as a port at that time for >> ships between Kerry and England or was Blennerville used more in the late >> 1840's and 1850's as a departure point for Irish immigrants direct to the >> US during and after the famine? >> >> Is it more likely in 1874, Tim would have left Kerry for Gravesend from >> Blennerville or the Cobh of Cork? Any other options? >> >> Would welcome thoughts of this topic or my being directed to a good web >> site that covers this topic. >> >> With thanks. >> Jenny >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 5423 (20100904) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _______________ >> --------------- >> >> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >> >> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >> >> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >> >> Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the >> Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a >> wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is >> at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/05/2010 05:48:40
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874
    2. My grandmother's grandmother sailed from Tralee approx. 1851. {I don't have the papers in front of me and I'm too lazy at the moment to get them out.} Anyway her ship's papers said she left from Tralee, and since the port was too shallow, another smaller boat took her out to her ship which lay just outside where the water was deeper. Just thought I'd tell you what I learned a few years back. FYI. Darlene > > > (Note that Tralee and Blennerville are the same port) > > There were no deep water ports in Ireland. So where did the Irish board > the > boats? Well, some sailed from Tralee, Cork City, and Cobh even before > 1862. > By that time a railroad had been completed from Tralee to Cobh, so few > left > from Tralee anymore, most went to Cobh or Cork to start their journey. > Making Cork the last port of call put the ships in warmer and more gentle > waters and were on the English route from Plymouth to the new world. Many > of > the people that "went from Cork" actually went from Cobh. Sailing out of > Cobh/Cove, the Port of Cork, the large ships would anchor at sea and they > would ferry the "topping off passengers" out to the ship. Ships also left > from Limerick to Canada, taking people and bringing back lumber. > > The only main ports of departure from Ireland were (1) going to Liverpool, > mostly families from the northern counties did that (2) Cobh/Queenstown, > mostly from the southern ports and (3) some northern people also went to > Glasgow. In much earlier years there were also departures from other > ports > such as Larne. The major ports for the years of 1846-1851 were Dublin, > Newery, Galway, Cork, Limerick, Belfast, Londonderry, Waterford, Liverpool > and Silgo. > > Kerry Census 1841: 293,880 > Estimated Census 1851: 238,000 > 1841 -1851 Populaton Decrease: 19% > Estimated Deaths 1845-1850: 32,000 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Volk" <[email protected]> > To: "Jenny B" <[email protected]>; "'Kerry List'" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 6:46 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874 > > >> It seems that Blennerville was mainly used during the Famine Years >> 1845-1848 but... >> >> I would ask your question of Riobard O'Dwyer or try this site: >> >> http://migration.ucc.ie/indexemigration.htm >> >> CHEERS-Reg-Canada >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jenny B" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Kerry List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:11 PM >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Immigration Departure Ports 1874 >> >> >>>I appreciate I am in all probability not going to obtain a positive >>>location - I am looking more for the most likely departure point. >>> >>> My great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE left Gravesend on 18 September 1874 >>> bound for New Zealand aboard the Geraldine Paget. I have copies of the >>> passenger lists, Surgeons Report etc and the newspaper reports of the >>> voyage as published in the Christchurch Star after the arrival of the >>> ship at Lyttelton. >>> >>> The Captains report makes no mention of the ship having called at any >>> ports, for passengers to embark, after it had left Gravesend therefore >>> it >>> is safe to assume that Tim had to make his way from his townland of >>> Dromavalla in the Parish of Ballymacelligott to Gravesend. >>> >>> This was 1874 - was Blennerville being used as a port at that time for >>> ships between Kerry and England or was Blennerville used more in the >>> late >>> 1840's and 1850's as a departure point for Irish immigrants direct to >>> the >>> US during and after the famine? >>> >>> Is it more likely in 1874, Tim would have left Kerry for Gravesend from >>> Blennerville or the Cobh of Cork? Any other options? >>> >>> Would welcome thoughts of this topic or my being directed to a good web >>> site that covers this topic. >>> >>> With thanks. >>> Jenny >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 5423 (20100904) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> _______________ >>> --------------- >>> >>> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>> >>> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>> >>> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >>> >>> Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the >>> Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach >>> a >>> wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info >>> is >>> at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >

    09/06/2010 08:30:19