I am looking for a death in the States for Kieran Power. Does anyone know of an alternate name for Kieran? -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request <[email protected]> To: irl-kerry <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 10:02 pm Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 Today's Topics: 1. names, names (marysimpson) 2. Re: names, names (Leslie Rahling) 3. Re: names, names (Paul Keroack) 4. Re: Given names Bart, Dermot, Jeremiah (Kitty) 5. Re: names, names (Kitty) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:28:50 +0000 From: marysimpson <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] names, names To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Michael, Jeremiah / Dermot / Darby are interchangeable. Bart / Batt ( or Battie ) / Bartholomew ditto. Edward / Edmund / Eamonn / Ned ( or Nedeen, even better ). And don't forget Florence ( male name in Ireland ), Sylvester, and Cornelius also.... If only people had the courage to use them nowadays! Mary ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:10:33 -0500 From: "Leslie Rahling" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] names, names To: "'marysimpson'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mary and list, Am I correct in understanding Florence, Sylvester and Cornelius and interchangeable? Also, any thoughts on Jeffery/Geoffrey/Gottefriede? Are there names that are interchangeable with it? Thanks, Leslie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marysimpson Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-KERRY] names, names Michael, Jeremiah / Dermot / Darby are interchangeable. Bart / Batt ( or Battie ) / Bartholomew ditto. Edward / Edmund / Eamonn / Ned ( or Nedeen, even better ). And don't forget Florence ( male name in Ireland ), Sylvester, and Cornelius also.... If only people had the courage to use them nowadays! Mary _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Keroack <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] names, names To: Leslie Rahling <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Leslie, ? No, Cornelius was the "saint's name" for the Irish CONNOR -?which is now popular on its own.?My grandfather was Cornelius, generally known as Con or Connie. ? Not sure about Sylvester. ? Geoffrey (or the?more English form, Jeffrey) was a Norman-French introduction to Ireland, related to the Germanic Gotfried.?It was "translated" to?Irish?as Seafra or Seafraid (according to Woulfe). It?was popular in Kerry at least. ? Some other old Irish names found (usually anglicized) among emigrants esp. from Kerry: Murtaugh=Mortimer Muiris=Maurice Domnall or Donal=Daniel Riocard=Richard (pronounced Rickard) Eogan=Eugene? Gobnait=Abigail or Deborah Nora=Honora, Honoria Eibilin=Eileen, Ellen, Helen, Nellie, &c. Sioban=Joan, Johanna, Hannah ? Paul --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Leslie Rahling <[email protected]> wrote: From: Leslie Rahling <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] names, names To: "'marysimpson'" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 11:10 AM Mary and list, Am I correct in understanding Florence, Sylvester and Cornelius and interchangeable? Also, any thoughts on Jeffery/Geoffrey/Gottefriede?? Are there names that are interchangeable with it? Thanks, Leslie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marysimpson Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-KERRY] names, names Michael, Jeremiah /? Dermot /? Darby are interchangeable. Bart /? Batt ( or Battie ) /? Bartholomew ditto. Edward /? Edmund / Eamonn /? Ned ( or Nedeen, even better ). And don't forget Florence ( male name in Ireland ), Sylvester, and Cornelius also.... If only people had the courage to use them nowadays! Mary _______________ ---------------? ? ? ??? Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. 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Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:42:26 -0500 From: Kitty <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Given names Bart, Dermot, Jeremiah To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <C97B4FB2.BDCB%[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Here?s what I can find... Dermot: ?Diarmaid, signifying the god of arms, is derived from ?Dia?, a god, and ?Armaid?, the ...plural of ?Arm?. ....This name is Anglicised ?Diarmot? and has become a surname, as MacDermott?. The only thing I could find that seems like Jeremiah (phonetically) is this: ?Gearrmaide, derived from ?Gearr, short, and ?maide?, a stick; signifying the chief of the short cudgel. Bart with a period (Bart.) is short for Baronet, but Bart by itself is short for Bartholemew. Hope this helps! ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:58:17 -0500 From: Kitty <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] names, names To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <C97B5369.BDCD%[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, all, Here?s what I can find... Dermot: ?Diarmaid, signifying the god of arms, is derived from ?Dia?, a god, and ?Armaid?, the ...plural of ?Arm?. ....This name is Anglicised ?Diarmot? and has become a surname, as MacDermott?. The only thing I could find that seems like Jeremiah (phonetically) is this: ?Gearrmaide, derived from ?Gearr, short, and ?maide?, a stick; signifying the chief of the short cudgel. Bart with a period (Bart.) is short for Baronet, but Bart by itself is short for Bartholemew. In addition, Cornelius: "Conchobhar (Anglicized "Conor" and Latinized "Cornelius", derived from Cu or Con, and "Cobhair", signifying the helping warrior". Haven't found anything on the others you mentioned, but I see no connection between those three names. Maybe Geoffrey was one of those Norman names who settled and adapted Irish surnames. Gottfried sure sounds like it. Kitty ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 ****************************************