I Googled "Morpeth Roll" and clicked on the ancestry option. http://search.ancestry.com/search/DB.aspx?dbid=2514 ... is the search page that came up The Title is: "Ireland, Lord Viscount Morpeth's Testimonial Roll, 1841" Look in "Browse this collection"... box on the right where it allows you to browse the actual image. Click on "Testimonial Roll" in that box to see 778 images, or go back and search for the specific name(s) you're interested in. Ann in Iowa -----Original Message----- From: acmbjc@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:51 PM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com ; irl-galway@rootsweb.com ; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] "Morpeth Roll" Question Continued post... Listers: In a recent W.P.G.S. [Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Society] newsletter, Volume 39, Number 5 there is an article about a historic Irish document called "Morpeth Roll". The article states it is available on Ancestry.com. When I searched the card catalog on Ancestry, this document is NOT listed. Does anyone know anything further about this document? It is reportedly 420 meters long, and has been digitized, and is considered a "pre-Famine census substitute, a genealogy resource, a family heirloom or a politically significant document". Am very curious to learn what this contains. Anyone? TIA. Marybeth C. acmbjc@aol.com _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:00 AM, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) > Dear Ray: I think we are out in the sunshine. In the meantime, I have a scary story to report. >From the New England Historic Genealogy Society (NEHGS) newsletter came a report from the Irish Times (June 24) titled "EU Regulation Could Restrict Genealogical Research." The opening remark said, "Access to old parish records on microfilm in the National Library and to records held by the State such as birth, death and marriages could be restricted if a proposed European Union regulation on data protection goes ahead, the Genealogical Society of Ireland has said." Finland and Lithuania are to respond to the EU. The article is long but I can send it on to you if the list takes attachments. Do you know any more? Is this a real threat for current research? What of materials already transcribed by Family Search, Ancestry, etc.? There are 27 EU countries, including Ireland. Hoax or real threat? Maureen in Colorado

Rick mee boy, You are in Luck. I know Waterville, I do. Spent 2 weeks there a while back doing family history of DENNEHY. Start with the online church and civil records. Waterville is in Kerry. You could say it is a townland but it is surrounded by old townlands that are now incorporated into Waterville. Many ae spelled a jillion different ways. Take Garrannafulla, for instance. There's Spunkane, really part of the current village of Waterville and Murreigh across the road etc. There is one C of I church and i Catholic church in town - St. Finian's. All their records are now online in the kerry records. Commanes is out of town across the lake. Trace backward. Start with the telephone book. Look up the Sheas and send them a letter. I connected after my visit using DNA. The old Roman Catholic parish was called DROMOD. That was also the name of the civil parish. The 19th cent. church and its graveyard are in utter ruin, derelict they call it. They are located 10 miles or so East of Waterville in or near Kileentierna. Lovely countryside. The St Finian church has a graveyard around it and the stones are legible. Go there. Email me off list with specific questions. In my family history, I have no sheay/shay that I know of in IRE. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://thayerfamilies.com/thomas-line.htm On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:20 AM, <rshea1@nycap.rr.com> <rshea1@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > I find that for all I know about Ireland's history and culture, I know lttle about available resoureces for genealogy even though I have been doing it for over 60 years off and on. I don't even know the townland for Waterville or what parish would be there nor what churches are in Waterville.

I find that for all I know about Ireland's history and culture, I know lttle about available resoureces for genealogy even though I have been doing it for over 60 years off and on. I don't even know the townland for Waterville or what parish would be there nor what churches are in Waterville. My great-grandfather was Michael Shea and I thought his father was also Michael but I received an email a while back saying his father was Cornelius. His wife was Bridgit Dunn from Kildare City and they married in 1861 and moved to Norwich, CT where his mother and sister was already living, yhey were weavers by trade. Where he and his wife met I have no idea. I presume he didn't leave with his mother because of his father but I don't know that for sure either but I find no record to indicate his father went with his mother. I find no record of male siblings only a sisters Mary and Nora who was still in school. So all in all due to the large number of Sheas in Kerry I have little! information on the Sheas where my other research into my mother's side of the family which is English and Dutch/Belgian from Flanders has a ton of info available including several genealogy books written about various branches. Rick Shea

Hi Reg, I have the family tree, I am trying to find out what happened to Patrick & Mary I have already given an interview on Radio Kerry, the entitled relative will have to be a living son / daughter of the Brosnan's below. There is a living 92 year old entitled relative on the parental side. She is a first cousin of the deceased, the estate is valued at $500,000 Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk@shaw.ca> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:38 PM To: "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Presume you have all this: https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bfather_give nname%3APatrick~%20%2Bfather_surname%3ABrosnan~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3AEliz abeth~%20%2Bmother_surname%3AFoley~ http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=Eliz abeth+&name2l=Foley&namefm=Patrick&namel=Brosnan&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&submi t=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=&century=&decade=&exact=&ddB=&dd M=&ddD=&mmB=&mmM=&mmD=&yyB=&yyM=&yyD=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&membe r0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=& member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&nam ef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7= &namel8=&namel9=&keyword= Reg Sent from my iPad On 2013-07-09, at 2:01 AM, "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> wrote: I am looking for any issue from the family below, this is in relation to an intestate estate. Patrick Brosnan B: abt 1840 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland D: Mar 1919 Tralee, Ireland Elizabeth "Eliza" Foley B: Abt 1840 Tralee, Kerry, Ireland D: Bef 1901 CHILDREN: . Ellen Brosnan Daughter Born: 25 Jul 1864 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland Died: 27 Aug 1951 Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, USA Hints (4) . John Brosnan Son 15 Sep 1866 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Honora Brosnan Daughter 11 Aug 1868 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Daniel Brosnan Son 22 Dec 1870 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Cornelius Brosnan Son 10 Aug 1872 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Patrick Brosnan Son 28 Mar 1875 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Elizabeth Theresa Brosnan Daughter Born: 16 Sep 1877 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland Died: May 1964 Tarrytown, New York, USA Mary Brosnan Daughter 30 May 1880 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland .Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Michael Leane" <mleane@vodafone.ie> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:14 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Hello Cheryl there is a a large Clan gathering of Brosnans to be held in Castleisland July 25th to 28th I have 16 friends from USA who are looking for a Margaret Brosnan who married a John Daly about 1850 and they are giving a lecture on DNA I will be there by their invitation Regards to all Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 July 2013 08:00 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ray Marshall" Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet To: Message-ID: <76C93BD2975C4EEBA7515A53E9ECC9B9@lydiad4cd4461f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 From: "sandy stegmayer" Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don?t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O?Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I?d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 From: Cheryl Labrecque Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts To: Kerry List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archiver > IRL-KERRY 2005-11 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 **************************************** _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, all -- Thanks for being here. I love reading all of your emails. I am interested in the family of Jane Ferris (Bapt. Dec. 31, 1854, Lahard) and Daniel Falvey who in 1911 lived in Killarney. (1911 census). Is anyone researching them? I wonder where might Jane and Daniel be buried? They were Catholic. They had: 1. Helen, 11 Dec 1879 2. Johanna, 6 Sep 3. Jeremiah 31 Jan, 1883 4. Mary Rose, 19 Jun, 1884 5. Catherine 18 Sep, 1890 Thanks, Meg Meg Ferris Kenagy Portland, Oregon Researching Ferris, Spillane,

I am looking for any issue from the family below, this is in relation to an intestate estate. Patrick Brosnan B: abt 1840 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland D: Mar 1919 Tralee, Ireland Elizabeth "Eliza" Foley B: Abt 1840 Tralee, Kerry, Ireland D: Bef 1901 CHILDREN: . Ellen Brosnan Daughter Born: 25 Jul 1864 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland Died: 27 Aug 1951 Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, USA Hints (4) . John Brosnan Son 15 Sep 1866 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Honora Brosnan Daughter 11 Aug 1868 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Daniel Brosnan Son 22 Dec 1870 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Cornelius Brosnan Son 10 Aug 1872 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Patrick Brosnan Son 28 Mar 1875 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland . Elizabeth Theresa Brosnan Daughter Born: 16 Sep 1877 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland Died: May 1964 Tarrytown, New York, USA Mary Brosnan Daughter 30 May 1880 Fahaduff, Kerry, Ireland .Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Michael Leane" <mleane@vodafone.ie> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:14 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Hello Cheryl there is a a large Clan gathering of Brosnans to be held in Castleisland July 25th to 28th I have 16 friends from USA who are looking for a Margaret Brosnan who married a John Daly about 1850 and they are giving a lecture on DNA I will be there by their invitation Regards to all Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 July 2013 08:00 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ray Marshall" Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet To: Message-ID: <76C93BD2975C4EEBA7515A53E9ECC9B9@lydiad4cd4461f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 From: "sandy stegmayer" Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don?t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O?Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I?d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 From: Cheryl Labrecque Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts To: Kerry List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archiver > IRL-KERRY > 2005-11 > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Bernie Thanks for this Cotter info. Nicholas is a name that is very common in our Cotters, but I have not seen the name Sara to date. My grandfather Nicholas Joseph Cotter was born in Glanworth Co Cork in 1885. I am not back to the 1820s yet. I know my g.grandfather William Cotter born in Co Kerry c1849 was a son of William Cotter and had an older brother Nicholas born approx 1844 but the paper trail runs out then. Yes I too used enjoy the Bunty & Judy. Regards Jill -----Original Message----- From: Bernie Donaghey Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:55 AM Subject: Cotter Jill, I am not sure if it will mean anything to you or not. I have a Mathias Quilter of Clooneen who married Sara Cotter in Castleisland on 1st March 1829. There is another marriage on the Irish Genealogy site for a Nicholas Cotter who married Johanna Quilter of Clooneen in Causeway on 6th Feb 1826. Unfortunately I don't have a townland for the Cotter's but with marriages this early we should be grateful if we can get them at all.

Hello Phil The Godsons worked for a Church of Ireland minister in Kenmare. In the 1940s I remember old John Godson working as head waiter in the international hotel in Killarney he had I think three sons two married but did not have any son. There is one granddaughter of old John with the Godson name. I can not find them in the 1901 census but they ere in the 1911 at 55 lower New Street Viz Lizzie, Charlie,Christopher, Louie, 55 Nw Street now would take in Dunnes Stores I expect they are somewhere in the 1901 census I only tried new st as I remember them there Regards Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 16 June 2013 15:29 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 84 Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (Phil Stokes) 2. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (brendan@researchireland.com) 3. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (Maureen O'Connor) 4. Re: Kerry graveyards Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (cdynan@rcn.com) 5. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (brendan@researchireland.com) 6. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 (brendan@researchireland.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:23:25 +0100 From: Phil Stokes <philastokes@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAPtgxyBWng_4=KpHQg9BJTB1i-N6Xpo9j4GynkkfEE5unYo6qw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you Reg but I have all the current information, I was just looking for local knowledge about graveyards as I have exhausted the records available online. That marriage record is indeed correct. The family were just too early for civil registration and I have a feeling that not all of the children made it to adulthood. that's why I'm interested in any burial or gravestone resources available. Having searched a number of graveyards several times I know it is a longshot whether there's anything there now! Phil On Jun 16, 2013 8:00 a.m., <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Phil Stokes <philastokes@gmail.com> > To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones > Hi, > I'm researching a branch of my family called Godson that lived in the > Kenmare (Killowen) area. They do not appear in Griffith's Valuation for the > area. They lived there until at least 1850 and the mother, Hanora, died in > Kenmare in 1890. The father Richard died before 1873 and they had 6 > children born in the period 1838 to 1850 -Thomas, James, Margaret, Sarah, > Dorothy and Charles who I know details about. Some of the family seemed to > move closer to Killarney during the second half of the century. > > I was wondering if there are any graveyards which would have graves going > back that far. I have a feeling that the family may have worked on one of > the estates. There were two large houses in the Killowen area. Later some > of the family were employed in estate houses in the Killarney area where > subsequent generations worked in the hospitality industry. > > I know that in Kerry you are lucky to have free access to church records > and municipal graveyard records but I was wondering about access to burial > records for catholic graveyards and if they are not accessible, whether > gravestone inscriptions are recorded anywhere? > > Thanks for any help! > > Phil Stokes > > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:42:29 +0100 From: "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: "Phil Stokes" <philastokes@gmail.com> Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <62af1e98$b47c44c$78eeb5c9$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Phil, The family turn up in the tithes 1820's living in Killowen. They do not appear in Griffiths probably because they were estate workers working on the Landsdowne Estate. The estate records are in private hands. They charge 100 euro a day to research the records. You have to research in person. I have searched graveyards in Kerry for my relations, unless they were rich or famous it is a real longshot. I believe all the Godson's in Kenmare came from one stem, a Rachel & Sarah who were born late 1700's Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Phil Stokes" <philastokes@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:24 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 Thank you Reg but I have all the current information, I was just looking for local knowledge about graveyards as I have exhausted the records available online. That marriage record is indeed correct. The family were just too early for civil registration and I have a feeling that not all of the children made it to adulthood. that's why I'm interested in any burial or gravestone resources available. Having searched a number of graveyards several times I know it is a longshot whether there's anything there now! Phil On Jun 16, 2013 8:00 a.m., wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Phil Stokes > To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones > Hi, > I'm researching a branch of my family called Godson that lived in the > Kenmare (Killowen) area. They do not appear in Griffith's Valuation for the > area. They lived there until at least 1850 and the mother, Hanora, died in > Kenmare in 1890. The father Richard died before 1873 and they had 6 > children born in the period 1838 to 1850 -Thomas, James, Margaret, Sarah, > Dorothy and Charles who I know details about. Some of the family seemed to > move closer to Killarney during the second half of the century. > > I was wondering if there are any graveyards which would have graves going > back that far. I have a feeling that the family may have worked on one of > the estates. There were two large houses in the Killowen area. Later some > of the family were employed in estate houses in the Killarney area where > subsequent generations worked in the hospitality industry. > > I know that in Kerry you are lucky to have free access to church records > and municipal graveyard records but I was wondering about access to burial > records for catholic graveyards and if they are not accessible, whether > gravestone inscriptions are recorded anywhere? > > Thanks for any help! > > Phil Stokes > > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:46:22 +1200 From: "Maureen O'Connor" <zazu1@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51bd7b5e.1d0.1824.20984@clear.net.nz> Re Kenmare Gravestones Hi Phil I did a quick search - but only found some in the New Cemetery, Killarney and one in the Aghadoe cemetery You can find these online at the link below - I couldn't find any in Kenmare cemetery on line, but when I did a search with just the surname the others came up, Click on the underlined "filename" and it will open to the page on the register - Link: http://www.kerrylaburials.ie/en/SearchBurial.aspx Hope this helps Maureen O'Connor NZ ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) > > > From: Phil Stokes <philastokes@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones > > Hi, > > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email > to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an > email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:20:18 -0400 (EDT) From: cdynan@rcn.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry graveyards Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <526100986.70997064.1371385218338.JavaMail.root@md04.rcn.cmh.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Try www.kerrylaburials.ie It is the only place I know of for Kerry burials. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 Today's Topics: 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 From: Phil Stokes <philastokes@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAPtgxyAuhnkHZp067ioDgQONyHeZZhuMdG0Jqp4NBQCjnYqzvA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I'm researching a branch of my family called Godson that lived in the Kenmare (Killowen) area. They do not appear in Griffith's Valuation for the area. They lived there until at least 1850 and the mother, Hanora, died in Kenmare in 1890. The father Richard died before 1873 and they had 6 children born in the period 1838 to 1850 -Thomas, James, Margaret, Sarah, Dorothy and Charles who I know details about. Some of the family seemed to move closer to Killarney during the second half of the century. I was wondering if there are any graveyards which would have graves going back that far. I have a feeling that the family may have worked on one of the estates. There were two large houses in the Killowen area. Later some of the family were employed in estate houses in the Killarney area where subsequent generations worked in the hospitality industry. I know that in Kerry you are lucky to have free access to church records and municipal graveyard records but I was wondering about access to burial records for catholic graveyards and if they are not accessible, whether gravestone inscriptions are recorded anywhere? Thanks for any help! Phil Stokes ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 **************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:19:34 +0100 From: "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: "michael danahy" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9192f31$75b3aa5f$2022be77$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Michael, I have access to the tithe records. I believe the Landsdowne Estate records total two tons in weight. There is a graveyard attached to Killowen parish church which is now in ruins. 1850's the auxiliary workhouse was situated in Killowen. What was the name of the townland in Dromod that your Danahy's lived in? Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "michael danahy" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:12 PM To: brendan@researchireland.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 Brendan, I'd be interested in you dong a search of these tithe records and the landsdowne estate papers for DENNEHY/DANAHY. In addition to the 100 euro access charge, can you guess-timate the other costs On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:42 AM, brendan@researchireland.com wrote: > Hi Phil, > > The family turn up in the tithes 1820's living in Killowen. > > They do not appear in Griffiths probably because they were estate workers > > working on the Landsdowne Estate. The estate records are in private hands. > > They charge 100 euro a day to research the records. You have to research > in person. > > I have searched graveyards in Kerry for my relations, unless they were rich > or famous > > it is a real longshot. > > I believe all the Godson's in Kenmare came from one stem, a Rachel & Sarah > who were born late 1700's > > Brendan > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Phil Stokes" > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:24 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 > > Thank you Reg but I have all the current information, I was just looking > for local knowledge about graveyards as I have exhausted the records > available online. That marriage record is indeed correct. The family were > just too early for civil registration and I have a feeling that not all of > the children made it to adulthood. that's why I'm interested in any burial > or gravestone resources available. Having searched a number of graveyards > several times I know it is a longshot whether there's anything there now! > > Phil > On Jun 16, 2013 8:00 a.m., wrote: >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Phil Stokes > To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones >> Hi, >> I'm researching a branch of my family called Godson that lived in the >> Kenmare (Killowen) area. They do not appear in Griffith's Valuation for > the >> area. They lived there until at least 1850 and the mother, Hanora, died > in >> Kenmare in 1890. The father Richard died before 1873 and they had 6 >> children born in the period 1838 to 1850 -Thomas, James, Margaret, > Sarah, >> Dorothy and Charles who I know details about. Some of the family seemed > to >> move closer to Killarney during the second half of the century. >> >> I was wondering if there are any graveyards which would have graves > going >> back that far. I have a feeling that the family may have worked on one > of >> the estates. There were two large houses in the Killowen area. Later > some >> of the family were employed in estate houses in the Killarney area where >> subsequent generations worked in the hospitality industry. >> >> I know that in Kerry you are lucky to have free access to church records >> and municipal graveyard records but I was wondering about access to > burial >> records for catholic graveyards and if they are not accessible, whether >> gravestone inscriptions are recorded anywhere? >> >> Thanks for any help! >> >> Phil Stokes >> >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the >> email with no additional text. >> > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish > genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide > audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:27:27 +0100 From: "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 To: "michael danahy" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <312ea979$8bfc48$36e55f22$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Michael, This record has your Danahy's http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587433/0045874 33_00139.pdf Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "michael danahy" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:12 PM To: brendan@researchireland.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 Brendan, I'd be interested in you dong a search of these tithe records and the landsdowne estate papers for DENNEHY/DANAHY. In addition to the 100 euro access charge, can you guess-timate the other costs On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:42 AM, brendan@researchireland.com wrote: > Hi Phil, > > The family turn up in the tithes 1820's living in Killowen. > > They do not appear in Griffiths probably because they were estate workers > > working on the Landsdowne Estate. The estate records are in private hands. > > They charge 100 euro a day to research the records. You have to research > in person. > > I have searched graveyards in Kerry for my relations, unless they were rich > or famous > > it is a real longshot. > > I believe all the Godson's in Kenmare came from one stem, a Rachel & Sarah > who were born late 1700's > > Brendan > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Phil Stokes" > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:24 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 83 > > Thank you Reg but I have all the current information, I was just looking > for local knowledge about graveyards as I have exhausted the records > available online. That marriage record is indeed correct. The family were > just too early for civil registration and I have a feeling that not all of > the children made it to adulthood. that's why I'm interested in any burial > or gravestone resources available. Having searched a number of graveyards > several times I know it is a longshot whether there's anything there now! > > Phil > On Jun 16, 2013 8:00 a.m., wrote: >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones (Phil Stokes) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Phil Stokes > To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:30:30 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kenmare Graveyard and Headstones >> Hi, >> I'm researching a branch of my family called Godson that lived in the >> Kenmare (Killowen) area. They do not appear in Griffith's Valuation for > the >> area. They lived there until at least 1850 and the mother, Hanora, died > in >> Kenmare in 1890. The father Richard died before 1873 and they had 6 >> children born in the period 1838 to 1850 -Thomas, James, Margaret, > Sarah, >> Dorothy and Charles who I know details about. Some of the family seemed > to >> move closer to Killarney during the second half of the century. >> >> I was wondering if there are any graveyards which would have graves > going >> back that far. I have a feeling that the family may have worked on one > of >> the estates. There were two large houses in the Killowen area. Later > some >> of the family were employed in estate houses in the Killarney area where >> subsequent generations worked in the hospitality industry. >> >> I know that in Kerry you are lucky to have free access to church records >> and municipal graveyard records but I was wondering about access to > burial >> records for catholic graveyards and if they are not accessible, whether >> gravestone inscriptions are recorded anywhere? >> >> Thanks for any help! >> >> Phil Stokes >> >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the >> email with no additional text. >> > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish > genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide > audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Jill, I am not sure if it will mean anything to you or not. I have a Mathias Quilter of Clooneen who married Sara Cotter in Castleisland on 1st March 1829. There is another marriage on the Irish Genealogy site for a Nicholas Cotter who married Johanna Quilter of Clooneen in Causeway on 6th Feb 1826. Unfortunately I don't have a townland for the Cotter's but with marriages this early we should be grateful if we can get them at all. I have noticed you researching Cotters but other than above, that's all I know about Cotter's. (apart from reading about the Four Mary's in a comic (Bunty or Judy) as a child, one of those Mary's was a Cotter). Bernie. -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Williams Sent: 09 July 2013 00:14 To: Michael Leane; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] East Kerry Roots Festival and Brosnan Gathering Hi Michael I am not a Brosnan but my g.grandfather William Cotter came from Brosna. I too will be at the Festival in Castleisland at the end of July. It sounds like it will be a lot of fun. For those who missed the Sullivan gathering in Sneem there is a 3 minute bit for it on youtube at www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pR1py6n389Y#at=10 Also the following four publications 'The Unquiet Grave', 'Islands in the Cloud', 'Past Kingdoms' and 'Medieval Treasures of County Kerry' - have digital copies now available for free download at www.kerrycoco.ie/en/allservices/heritage/publications/ I too miss Jack Sweeney's banter. Regards Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry & Glanworth Co Cork QUAID Cloncagh, Co Limerick MURPHY Carrignavar Co Cork -----Original Message----- From: Michael Leane Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 there is a a large Clan gathering of Brosnans to be held in Castleisland July 25th to 28th I have 16 friends from USA who are looking for a Margaret Brosnan who married a John Daly about 1850 and they are giving a lecture on DNA I will be there by their invitation _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael I am not a Brosnan but my g.grandfather William Cotter came from Brosna. I too will be at the Festival in Castleisland at the end of July. It sounds like it will be a lot of fun. For those who missed the Sullivan gathering in Sneem there is a 3 minute bit for it on youtube at www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pR1py6n389Y#at=10 Also the following four publications 'The Unquiet Grave', 'Islands in the Cloud', 'Past Kingdoms' and 'Medieval Treasures of County Kerry' - have digital copies now available for free download at www.kerrycoco.ie/en/allservices/heritage/publications/ I too miss Jack Sweeney's banter. Regards Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry & Glanworth Co Cork QUAID Cloncagh, Co Limerick MURPHY Carrignavar Co Cork -----Original Message----- From: Michael Leane Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 there is a a large Clan gathering of Brosnans to be held in Castleisland July 25th to 28th I have 16 friends from USA who are looking for a Margaret Brosnan who married a John Daly about 1850 and they are giving a lecture on DNA I will be there by their invitation

Hi Ray, Glad to see you are still looking after us. Do you think there is any point in calling a roll call. Maybe the names people are researching and the area they lived. You'r making me hungry! Bernie.

Hello Cheryl there is a a large Clan gathering of Brosnans to be held in Castleisland July 25th to 28th I have 16 friends from USA who are looking for a Margaret Brosnan who married a John Daly about 1850 and they are giving a lecture on DNA I will be there by their invitation Regards to all Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 July 2013 08:00 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <76C93BD2975C4EEBA7515A53E9ECC9B9@lydiad4cd4461f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E2EB327C5A3747E3A53E616736EB2217@gscPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don?t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O?Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I?d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 From: Cheryl Labrecque <chicocat007@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts To: Kerry List <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAFP+L0J8gc2P6Xak=5MS2NsarJ6k8FL3_Hc_+w=z-3osKkc5Cw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 ****************************************

Hello Listers when www.irishgenealogy.ie with Kerry Church records came available people could do their own research up to a point. Some other dioces have released their records to this site Regards to all Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 July 2013 08:00 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <76C93BD2975C4EEBA7515A53E9ECC9B9@lydiad4cd4461f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E2EB327C5A3747E3A53E616736EB2217@gscPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don?t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O?Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I?d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 From: Cheryl Labrecque <chicocat007@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts To: Kerry List <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAFP+L0J8gc2P6Xak=5MS2NsarJ6k8FL3_Hc_+w=z-3osKkc5Cw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 ****************************************

Hi Ray, Will try to get something going re my O'Leary roots in Causeway Parish, Co. Kerry. (Bouleenshere Townland, north of Ballyheigue) Gotta find out if there are any other Bhui O'Learys whose ancestors lived in the area early 1800's, or later. Don - Indianapolis, IN -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-kerry <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:03 am Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) Attached Message From: Ray Marshall <ray.marshall@gmail.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator Attached Message From: sandy stegmayer <ssteg@verizon.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don’t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O’Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I’d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy Attached Message From: Cheryl Labrecque <chicocat007@gmail.com> To: Kerry List <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

Hi Ray Just to let you know I am still hanging in there and reading all the posts, even if I have nothing new to contribute. As to the Golden boy, Jack Sweeney, all of us old timers miss his great irish humor and wit. I still have the Irish soda bread recipe. I think with so many doing DNA testing these days, people are checking their roots in other ways that on the Kerry rootsweb, but I may be corrected on that? I still enjoy hearing from the old friends and looking for someone, anyone to have a family tie with my Sullivan family, there are no less then four of us that I know of that have Sullivan's and so far, none match up. Ray, keep up the great job, things around here are like the stock market, some days it's up and some day's it's down, but it is still gaining new information all the time. I have found many good research sites that people have posted here and to them I am most appreciative. Liz in hot and humid Space Coast Florida Researching" Sullivan, McGrath and Scott In a message dated 7/8/2013 3:00:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <76C93BD2975C4EEBA7515A53E9ECC9B9@lydiad4cd4461f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E2EB327C5A3747E3A53E616736EB2217@gscPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don?t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O?Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I?d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 From: Cheryl Labrecque <chicocat007@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts To: Kerry List <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAFP+L0J8gc2P6Xak=5MS2NsarJ6k8FL3_Hc_+w=z-3osKkc5Cw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 ****************************************

Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. The Other Cheryl Brosnihan, Kilcummin Healy Kerrisk Gortgullane and Killarney

Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don’t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O’Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I’d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy

Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator

Hi Listers, I am hoping someone will be able to help me with my CONNELL family. I have been told they are from KILLARNEY. My GGM Mary Connell married Mathew O'Halloran in Launceston Tasmania on the 6th July 1861 aged 21. I have two Mary Connells from Killarney and I am wondering if either is her. 1. DOB 7/7/1939 Father Daniel Connell, Mother Margaret Ready 2. DOB 27/12/1840 Father Dermot Connell, Mother Ellen Turkenton Also a Mary Connell aged 18 departed from Bristol on the ship "Jessie Mun" for Australia Feb 1859. Can someone confirm that my Mary Connell is either of those two listed above? Thanks, Barry Horler Melbourne, Australia.