Michael writes: === Two listings are for the townland of Murreagh Cliff and Murriegh Cliff. Assuming one variant is ?wrong,? what is the modern preferred spelling? 1. Could one of our map buffs out there tell me where on a map Murreagh Cliff was and is? I think I bought gas there once but am doublechcking. === Michael, The townland of Murreagh (779 acres) is located just a mile or so to the NW and N of Waterville town. I don't find a mention of "Cliff" in the townland, and true cliffs would be unlikely there. The townland lies along the S bank of the River Inny estuary, and it seems to be mostly sand and mud along the banks (there's even an 18-hole golf course in the "sand hills" part of the townland). In the NE corner of the townland, just where the N 70 crosses the minor road up to Mastergeehy (and an RC church), there is also a church indicated on the Discovery map. This church is not mentioned in Mitchell's "A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards", but it is identified as an "RC chapel" on the old 6-inch maps as well as a "C.Church" on the somewhat newer Townland Index maps. The Waterville RC parish webpage list only one "full-time" church in the parish, St. Finian's. This may be the Murreagh church. Dunno. The Discovery map shows two church "symbols" in the town of Waterville, but I don't know the denomination of either of them. Mitchell is no help.......and my CD of town maps of Co. Kerry doesn't load (argh). Anyway, that's where Murreagh is located, but I don't know about the Cliff. There is/was a Murreagh House in the townland also. That's all I have. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Hello John, I went into the GRO in Dublin today and bought his birth record, while they were searching they told me that he had a bio sister, she was informally adopted by the same people. I understand that the bio sister married in Dublin, if she had children they would be entitled relatives to his estate. I am getting close, the estate is quite substantial in modern day terms. It would be great if it went to his bio's children Brendan On 16 Sep 2013, at 18:39, JWladis@aol.com wrote: > Bredan, > > If the estate is substantial it would be useful for you to consult a > solicitor in the UK & perhaps Ireland. > > I am an American attorney. What I am about to say is based on > American law. I imagine that American law is not too different from > UK law on these points. > > First, whether or not the adoption is legally effective when Mr A > dies intestate, the law usually stipulates the family members who > inherit . Normally it's the law of the decedent's residence at the > time of his death. That would be the UK law intestate law in effect > when Mr A died. > > The following site will tell you what relatives inherit: > > https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/if-the-person-didnt-leave-a-will > > If the adoption is not legally effective then Mr A's biological > relatives would inherit under intestacy law not members of the > family that raised him. > > Second, it appears from your description that there was no formal > adoption process followed. Normally this means that the adoption > will not be recognized as legally effective. Hence Mr A would not > be considered to be legally part of the family that raised him. I > should note that the law might recognize the informal adoption as > legally effective. > > Lastly, if Mr A owned real estate in Ireland it's possible that > Irish law may apply to that property. > > To reiterate, if Mr A's estate is substantial, you should consult a > solicitor. > > John Wladis > > In a message dated 9/15/13 3:37:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brendan@researchireland.com > writes: > Mr A was born in Ireland 1920's he was a single mother birth. > > Hw was adopted at birth and raised in a family who already had 4 bio > children. > > The family also adopted a girl not related to Mr. A > > The family of 6 all grew up together, it was only in later years > that it > came out that two of the > > family had been adopted. The adoption act only came into law in > Ireland > 1952, it was therefore an informal > > arrangement. Mr A emigrates to England, he comes home on holidays and > attends all family funerals. > > Mr A marries in England, no children. > > Mr A dies in England, he dies intestate, his wife had died before him. > > Who is entitled to his estate? > > Brendan > > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email > to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with > the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to > reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her > contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Greetings all, The name, DANAHY, occurs thrice in the Tithe Applotment books in 1825 in DROMOD. Two listings are for the townland of Murreagh Cliff and Murriegh Cliff. Assuming one variant is “wrong,” what is the modern preferred spelling? 1. Could one of our map buffs out there tell me where on a map Murreagh Cliff was and is? I think I bought gas there once but am doublechcking. 2 Does anyone have any further info on the persons named PHILIP DANAHY and JAMES DANAHY, as well as TIM DANAHY of nearby WATERVILLE? Have at it. I’ll be back in touch when I do some further digging on the DANAHYS in 1825 in GARRANNAFULLA Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://thayerfamilies.com/thomas-line.htm

Hi Karen, comcast.net blocks out most emails from Ireland, they come back undelivered. I photographed some headstones in Ballyseedy, I was working on a College assignement the Blennerhassetts of Tralee http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/kerry/photos/tombstones/kerry-ballyse edy/index.html Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Karen Seiferth" <kis0721@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:49 AM To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] William THOMAS & Mary MASON Good evening, We are planning a trip to Ireland this upcoming May and I would truly love to visit the home of my Irish ancestors in County Kerry. My g-g-grandparents are William THOMAS (1830) and Mary MASON (May 10 1835) both born in Tralee. Maybe Ardfert? William's father was Richard THOMAS from Killierisk Ratass. William's sister Alice married George PEEVERS. She s buried in Ballyseedy Cemetery. Is there anyone on this list who is familiar with this family? My Irish vacation would not be complete without a trip to Tralee. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Karen Isley Seiferth Ft. Myers, FL _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Talking about Moynihan, I thought you may like to see this information. I had transcribed, several years ago, records in a cemetery in my home town of Hadley, Massachusetts which also contains graves of Amherst residences, as well. Dear Listers, quite a while back, in 2000, I posted on the Kerry website, some gravestone inscriptions for (a small cemetery) at St. Brigid's Cemetery in Hadley, MA. I had completed my survey of only the headstones that mention a place of birth in Ireland on the stone. The Moyhihan name has come up recently, so I thought I would post this record: MOYNIHAN, Daniel born at Killarney, Co. Kerry, Ireland died 5/8/1876 (year hard to read) age 50 (Per the 1870 US census, he lived in Hadley, as well as a John Moynihan. Both lived on the same road.) {If the above (Moynihan)information is correct, then this information could be his from http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords : Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KILLARNEY Baptism of DANIEL MOYNIHAN of KNUCKAESERNATE on 12 May 1826 Date e.g. 13/08/1710 Name DANIEL MOYNIHAN Date of Birth 12 May 1826 (BASED ON OTHER DATE INFORMATION) Address KNUCKAESERNATE Father DERMOT MOYNIHAN Mother MARGARET MORIARTY Further details in the record Father Occupation NR Sponsor 1 CORNELIUS MOYNIHAN Sponsor 2 MARGARET MOYNIHAN Priest REV. J. MAHONEY About the record Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier 6 9 100 KY-RC-BA-306132 The church register page containing this record has not yet been imaged.} My Kerry Kelly relatives still live in Iron Mills, County Kerry, and "Nora" was a Moynihan by birth, her mother was a Kelly. I also have a John Crowley who married a Bridget Scannell (aka Scanlon) in Glenflesk Parish, County Kerry, Ireland in 1895, and removed to Western Massachusetts. Their son was John Crowley born in Dereen, Glenflesk, County Kerry, Ireland in 1861. His death record shows his mother was Bridget Scanlon, rather than Scannell as in his birth record. ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:27:37 PM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 145 Today's Topics: 1. MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret (Diane) 2. Re: MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret (Clare Tuohy) 3. Re: MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret (Brendan O'Donoghue) 4. Re: MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret (Diane) 5. Re: Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 Dunkerron & Kenmare (Brendan O'Donoghue) 6. Re: Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 Dunkerron & Kenmare (Danahy Michael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 04:42:27 -0400 From: Diane <diane212@optonline.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret To: "IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com" <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <45C25576-5E52-4F6E-8921-E790F1F7CDF5@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Will be visiting Kerry this week. Seeking info regarding my ancestors. They had a daughter named Catherine. Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:51:16 +0100 From: Clare Tuohy <clare.tuohy@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] MOYNIHAN, Andrew/ SCANNEL, Margaret To: Diane <diane212@optonline.net> Cc: "IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com" <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAP2XrWWMFPHGL9uUYY2+DBkYqT=DM5T6C58pEBeCEdT1eexpLg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Diane You didn't give any time line for the Moynihan Scannell family so this may not be relevant. >From Irish church records www.irishgenalogy.ie Andrew Moynihan Margaret Scannell Marriage Rathmore R.C. parish http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bb50650582388 and if you search the site you will find some children but nothing that I can find for Catherine. Regards Clare

Good evening, We are planning a trip to Ireland this upcoming May and I would truly love to visit the home of my Irish ancestors in County Kerry. My g-g-grandparents are William THOMAS (1830) and Mary MASON (May 10 1835) both born in Tralee. Maybe Ardfert? William's father was Richard THOMAS from Killierisk Ratass. William's sister Alice married George PEEVERS. She s buried in Ballyseedy Cemetery. Is there anyone on this list who is familiar with this family? My Irish vacation would not be complete without a trip to Tralee. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Karen Isley Seiferth Ft. Myers, FL

Begin forwarded message: > From: Kathleen Moynihan <kathmoy@mac.com> > Subject: Scannell roots > Date: 14 September 2013 9:52:03 PM AEST > To: Trish Jensen <reachpatricia@optusnet.com.au> > > Dear Diane, I got an email from Australia, you are looking for your Scannell roots. There are very few Scannells in the Rathmore area.......the ones who were related to me, all emigrated to England, they lived near Shrone lake, a few miles south west of here. Actually the only one who came back to Rathmore was Bridie Scannell and she died last week, I was at the wake with my son. Bridie's sisters came to the wake, fro England, all of them are feeble. Bridie was the youngest....and she was well into her 70's. Mary the eldest used to phone or write to me, but she is blind and deaf now and she was the only one who knew who was related to whom! > That Scannell family were reared by their grandfather, Humphrey Moynihan as their parents died young, Humphrey was a first cousin of my grandmother's......my grandmother was a Dennehy. There is no one in the house in Shrone now. > If you get in touch with the parish priest in Rathmore, he would let you see the marriage/baptismal records...........many, many years ago there was a fire in the church and many of the pages could be missing......I will be in Millstreet library next Wednesday and I will look up the Casey books......re the Scannells. > As for the name Moynihan......it is too numerous to mention! My Dad's name was John Moynihan, he emigrated to NYC in 1926, met and married my Mom...a Co Clare woman. My Dad decided to rear his family in Ireland so my 2 brothers and i plus my Mom came to Rathmore, and lived with my uncle and grandmother.......we went back to NYc, I was in 5th grade there.....when my Dad decided to send us back to Ireland...again to Raheen. He kept working there as he wanted to get his pension.....I went out in 1956, but I didn't like the idea of winding up in an apartment and marrying someone out there.......I returned to Ireland, met and married my husband....Humphrey Moynihan...I didn't have to change my name! Funnily enough my gt. gran and my aunt Eily did the same!....... > I remember in NYC, the postmen could not pronounce Moynihan, they always said, " Monahan" . Probably that is why is is often spelled wrong. > You could look up the books in Millstreet library, it is about 5 or 6 miles from Rathmore......I am there on Wednesdays and Saturdays.........volunteering!!! Wednesday, the Spoken Irish group come in and we speak Gaelic, or read books out loud in Gaelic.....Saturday is for the kids, stories etc it is great to get kids talking and asking questions and watching them grow from babyhood to read a book!!!!! > I wasn't at the library today as the librarian, Breda O Leary took a day off and another lady fills in for her.......I never learned to drive, too many men in the house.....4 sons, so thanks to Breda I get to the library twice a week, good fun too! > There was a lot of emigration in the Rathmore area and it's surroundings, the oldest son got the farm, the rest emigrated, or became priests or nuns......I think there were 3 nuns in the Scannells of Shrone, one of them was at her sister's wake last week. The Scannells that I knew emigrated to England, not the USA. > I remember the eldest on of the, Florence, he used to come and kill the pigs for my uncle, and his brothers worked for my uncle before they went to England, I remember John and Christie being in Raheen. > I was very lucky that my grandmother lived a very long life and had all her marbles, she talked about everyone and every thing.......my eldest, Malachy, was reared on her knee, but when Mary arrived, my gran was too feeble. > Keep well and i wish you a safe and happy trip, Kathleen Moynihan ps I tried to send this to Diane, but it won't travel....maybe you can send it to her.

Dear Diane, I got an email from Australia, you are looking for your Scannell roots. There are very few Scannells in the Rathmore area.......the ones who were related to me, all emigrated to England, they lived near Shrone lake, a few miles south west of here. Actually the only one who came back to Rathmore was Bridie Scannell and she died last week, I was at the wake with my son. Bridie's sisters came to the wake, fro England, all of them are feeble. Bridie was the youngest....and she was well into her 70's. Mary the eldest used to phone or write to me, but she is blind and deaf now and she was the only one who knew who was related to whom! That Scannell family were reared by their grandfather, Humphrey Moynihan as their parents died young, Humphrey was a first cousin of my grandmother's......my grandmother was a Dennehy. There is no one in the house in Shrone now. If you get in touch with the parish priest in Rathmore, he would let you see the marriage/baptismal records...........many, many years ago there was a fire in the church and many of the pages could be missing......I will be in Millstreet library next Wednesday and I will look up the Casey books......re the Scannells. As for the name Moynihan......it is too numerous to mention! My Dad's name was John Moynihan, he emigrated to NYC in 1926, met and married my Mom...a Co Clare woman. My Dad decided to rear his family in Ireland so my 2 brothers and i plus my Mom came to Rathmore, and lived with my uncle and grandmother.......we went back to NYc, I was in 5th grade there.....when my Dad decided to send us back to Ireland...again to Raheen. He kept working there as he wanted to get his pension.....I went out in 1956, but I didn't like the idea of winding up in an apartment and marrying someone out there.......I returned to Ireland, met and married my husband....Humphrey Moynihan...I didn't have to change my name! Funnily enough my gt. gran and my aunt Eily did the same!....... I remember in NYC, the postmen could not pronounce Moynihan, they always said, " Monahan" . Probably that is why is is often spelled wrong. You could look up the books in Millstreet library, it is about 5 or 6 miles from Rathmore......I am there on Wednesdays and Saturdays.........volunteering!!! Wednesday, the Spoken Irish group come in and we speak Gaelic, or read books out loud in Gaelic.....Saturday is for the kids, stories etc it is great to get kids talking and asking questions and watching them grow from babyhood to read a book!!!!! I wasn't at the library today as the librarian, Breda O Leary took a day off and another lady fills in for her.......I never learned to drive, too many men in the house.....4 sons, so thanks to Breda I get to the library twice a week, good fun too! There was a lot of emigration in the Rathmore area and it's surroundings, the oldest son got the farm, the rest emigrated, or became priests or nuns......I think there were 3 nuns in the Scannells of Shrone, one of them was at her sister's wake last week. The Scannells that I knew emigrated to England, not the USA. I remember the eldest on of the, Florence, he used to come and kill the pigs for my uncle, and his brothers worked for my uncle before they went to England, I remember John and Christie being in Raheen. I was very lucky that my grandmother lived a very long life and had all her marbles, she talked about everyone and every thing.......my eldest, Malachy, was reared on her knee, but when Mary arrived, my gran was too feeble. Keep well and i wish you a safe and happy trip, Kathleen Moynihan ps I tried to send this to Diane, but it won't travel....maybe you can send it to her.

Hi Mike, Forgot the link http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/pagestab/Kerry/Dromod/ Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:52 AM To: "Danahy Michael" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TITHES FOR DROMOD Hi Mike, Dromod tithe records here, you can view the original records. Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Danahy Michael" Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 9:54 PM To: "Brendan O'Donoghue" Subject: TITHES FOR DROMOD Brendan, How does one get to see the info in the "Tithes" you refer to for DROMOD? P. S. Have you ever walked the ancient cemetery surrounding the derelict ruins of the Dromod church? Quite an experience as one's foot sinks beneath the weeds and through the earth's crust to the spaces below! On Sep 14, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Brendan O'Donoghue wrote: Hi Rod, My beloved G Uncle definitely said Glemflesk/ Maire ni Dubh had 22 children, there is one name in our family that continues from the 1700's Mortimer, Morty, Morto. Morto turns up in the tithes in two different locations in Dromod, I believe it is the same Morto. _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fiona, I am the Irish researcher for 2 of the companies that feature on BBC, I am working on a case at the moment, the office is not open until tomorrow. Plenty of info on adopted children inheriting but very little on adopted people dying intestate. The estate is quite substantial, it may come down to the bio family making a court application. The adopted child's mother has a very common surname, the child was born in Dublin, the mother was West of Ireland. Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "fionadeb" <fionadeb@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:46 AM To: brendan@researchireland.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Anyone with legal knowledge Brendan, having watched Heir Hunters on BBC for months this year (which I know is English, not Irish)... what they would have done is go back to his birth mother's records and found out if she had any other children. Their descendents would be the principal heirs. If she had no other children, they would have looked at her own siblings (if any) and traced their descendents who would also be heirs. That is England of course - not sure what the story is here .... but hope this may give food for thought. Fiona On 15 September 2013 08:36, brendan@researchireland.com <brendan@researchireland.com> wrote: Mr A was born in Ireland 1920's he was a single mother birth. Hw was adopted at birth and raised in a family who already had 4 bio children. The family also adopted a girl not related to Mr. A The family of 6 all grew up together, it was only in later years that it came out that two of the family had been adopted. The adoption act only came into law in Ireland 1952, it was therefore an informal arrangement. Mr A emigrates to England, he comes home on holidays and attends all family funerals. Mr A marries in England, no children. Mr A dies in England, he dies intestate, his wife had died before him. Who is entitled to his estate? Brendan _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, Dromod tithe records here, you can view the original records. Brendan ---------------------------------------- From: "Danahy Michael" <mldanahy@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 9:54 PM To: "Brendan O'Donoghue" <brendan@researchireland.com> Subject: TITHES FOR DROMOD Brendan, How does one get to see the info in the "Tithes" you refer to for DROMOD? P. S. Have you ever walked the ancient cemetery surrounding the derelict ruins of the Dromod church? Quite an experience as one's foot sinks beneath the weeds and through the earth's crust to the spaces below! On Sep 14, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Brendan O'Donoghue wrote: Hi Rod, My beloved G Uncle definitely said Glemflesk/ Maire ni Dubh had 22 children, there is one name in our family that continues from the 1700's Mortimer, Morty, Morto. Morto turns up in the tithes in two different locations in Dromod, I believe it is the same Morto.

Mr A was born in Ireland 1920's he was a single mother birth. Hw was adopted at birth and raised in a family who already had 4 bio children. The family also adopted a girl not related to Mr. A The family of 6 all grew up together, it was only in later years that it came out that two of the family had been adopted. The adoption act only came into law in Ireland 1952, it was therefore an informal arrangement. Mr A emigrates to England, he comes home on holidays and attends all family funerals. Mr A marries in England, no children. Mr A dies in England, he dies intestate, his wife had died before him. Who is entitled to his estate? Brendan

Hi Rod, My beloved G Uncle definitely said Glemflesk/ Maire ni Dubh had 22 children, there is one name in our family that continues from the 1700's Mortimer, Morty, Morto. Morto turns up in the tithes in two different locations in Dromod, I believe it is the same Morto. He had a Morto, his son had a Morto who Died in Rhode Island His grandson had a Mortimer who died quite young, Brendan On 14 Sep 2013, at 19:35, Rod O'Donoghue wrote: > Dear Brendan > > Will be in north Kerry in October - dates to be sorted out. > > You may well be Dubh, a cadet line of Glens. Máire ní Duibh and > O'Connell > connection suggests that. I know two descendants of that line who > live over > here. They didn't know each other until I introduced them! The > Dubh tree > is in my book > > We would be delighted to welcome you to the yDNa project and should > be able > to see if you are Dubh. For some reason I thought you had already > used > Ancestry. Exact science? Progressing all the time... > > Cheers > > Rod > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan O'Donoghue [mailto:brendan@researchireland.com] > Sent: 13 September 2013 17:18 > To: Rod O'Donoghue > Cc: irl-KERRY@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 > Dunkerron & > Kenmare > > Dear Rod, > > You must be due a trip over soon. My granduncle Fr. Michael was the > historian in the family. > > He was parish priest of Valentia, Killorglin and finally > Ballymacelligot > (Ballymac as the locals call it) > > He told me when I was young that my O'Donoghue family were awarded > land in > Dromkeare, Waterville by the McCarthy Mor > > after the battle of the Boyne 1690. I think he was correct, checking > the > Thomond maps the McCarthy Mor had control over that area 1690. > > I only discovered last year that they were also awarded over 800 > acres in > Canburrin just outside Cahirciveen. > > They seem to have had a very close relationship with Daniel > O'Connell the > liberator's family as Morgan > > O'Connell was godfather to my GG Grandfather Daniel's first son. My > father's > twin married an O'Connell. > > He had the keys to Derrynane house, when I was 14 I spent a whole > afternoon > reading all the letters in the study. > > The house had its own oratory. The letters were mainly addressed to > Daniel > as a magistrate, mothers looking > > for clemency. > > I must have a DNA test done shortly, I was waiting until it was a > more exact > science. > > Brendan > On 13 Sep 2013, at 16:37, Rod O'Donoghue wrote: > >> Dear Brendan >> >> Do you want to put your data into our project and check yourself >> against The O'Donoghue of the Glens. I do think you have a Glens >> face >> but there were also lots of Mór in Glenflesk after Rory was slain and >> his lands attainted. >> >> How many markers have you tested? >> >> Cheers >> >> Rod >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com >> ] >> On Behalf Of Brendan O'Donoghue >> Sent: 05 September 2013 21:07 >> To: Danahy Michael >> Cc: irl-KERRY@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 >> Dunkerron & Kenmare >> >> Hello Michael, >> >> I have been waiting until there is an exact science. >> >> My family were granted land in Dromkeare, Waterville by the MCartthy >> Mor after the battle of the Boyne 1690. >> >> This fact is recorded in a family bible, my granduncle, who was a >> parish priest in Valentia, Killorglin and Ballymacelligot, Tralee. >> >> He was a very educated man, he studied in Paris and was a respected >> historian, he is buried outside the front door of the Church >> >> of the Immaculate Conception in Ballymac. >> >> I know my DNA, I know I am unadulterated South Kerry blood / DNA >> >> My father married a lady from Bandon, Co. Cork, I have her full >> lineage going back to the 1700's >> >> What is my DNA going to prove, it may be a marker for other people >> who >> came from the area. >> >> I know that my family originated tin Glenflesk, Killarney prior to >> 1690 >> >> I may be a good marker to other people claiming the same heritage, >> >> Brendan >> >> >> On 5 Sep 2013, at 18:24, Danahy Michael wrote: >> >>> Me too Brendan and did you do the DNA and compare it with mine? >>> >>> >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Brendan O'Donoghue wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> My O'Donoghue family are from the Waterville area. >>>> >>>> My grandfather was the doctor in Waterville, my grand uncle was a >>>> teacher near Waterville. >>>> >>>> I would love more information on the books. >>>> >>>> Brendan >>>> On 5 Sep 2013, at 17:35, Paul Keroack wrote: >>>> >>>>> Peter, >>>>> >>>>> According to John Grenham's "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors," there >>>>> are only a few RC parishes in Kerry which kept sacramental records >>>>> before 1820, primarily in urban areas, such as Killarney. >>>>> >>>>> In other areas, oral histories preserve some earlier family >>>>> history. >>>>> For instance, in the Waterville area, a retired teacher wrote >>>>> locally published books some years ago which recorded and >>>>> preserved >>>>> such histories illuminating one of my family lines to before 1800. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps the new IrelandXO effort to reach out to descendants of >>>>> immigrants may offer some possibilities. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Keroack >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Peter R Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> >>>>> To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:38 AM >>>>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 >>>>> Dunkerron >>>>> & Kenmare >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm rejoining the list after many years hoping some new data may >>>>> be available. >>>>> >>>>> I've checked list archives and there don't seem to be many >>>>> researchers of the above surnames, despite Cronin being fairly >>>>> prominent in Kerry records. Perhaps they are more widespread >>>>> further north outside Dunkerron & Kenmare. >>>>> >>>>> The Irish Times map of RC Parishes in Kerry shows Templenoe as the >>>>> local parish, but when you look at records on the Irish Genealogy >>>>> website it seems to be split between Templenoe and Kenmare. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if anyone knows of pre 1800 records. The earliest Cronin >>>>> BDM record that I can find in all Kerry is the 1820 marriage of >>>>> the >>>>> above. >>>>> >>>>> Myles and Honora had five children baptised in Dunkerron - John >>>>> 1821, Mary 1824. Margaret 1831, Myles 1837 and Cornelius 1840. >>>>> Trees >>>>> based on records from USA suggest a Daniel & Timothy as well. >>>>> >>>>> Margaret Cronin b1831 was my great great grandmother. She was sent >>>>> to Australia in 1850 from Kenmare Workhouse as a Famine Orphan. >>>>> Both parents are shown as deceased. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to know the origins of her parents, when they died, and >>>>> what happened to Margaret's siblings. >>>>> >>>>> Margaret's story appears on the Irish Famine Memorial website >>>>> along with over 4,000 other orphan girls >>>>> http://www.irishfaminememorial.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Peter BOOTH - Family Historian, SYDNEY >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> _______________ >>>>> --------------- >>>>> >>>>> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an >>>>> email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>> 'subscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>>>> >>>>> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >>>>> >>>>> Share your stuff! 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Good evening Brendan and Peter Thank you both very much for your assistance with my query. I was lucky enough today, to find further information on Edmond Moore and the murder trial at Tralee library and some reference numbers for the Dublin Archives. Many thanks again for your help. Jen On 13/09/2013, at 7:29 AM, "brendan@researchireland.com" <brendan@researchireland.com> wrote: > Kerry records were micrifilmed by the LDS in the 1950's, the microfilm's > > are available in the National library in Dublin. > > Castleisland has a number of gaps in its BMD records, missing books > > Killorglin also has missing books especially around 1850's > > Canirciveen records, microfilm is quite mutilated up to 1863. > > Irishgenealogy records are not complete, very few records for Milltown > area. > > Brendan > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:24 AM > To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Family History for EDMOND/EDWARD MOORE - 1829 > > Jeannette, > > You should have done the homework before you left home. > > Try this site http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ > > Click on the Search button and then select Church records. > > If you use Nicholas and Castleisland, it has the parents' marriage and > the baptism of Edward but no Margaret. She may be in another parish or > mistranscribed. > > Unfortunately, I'm told that little data exists before 1820. > > Enjoy your holiday. > > Peter > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish > genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide > audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Rod, You must be due a trip over soon. My granduncle Fr. Michael was the historian in the family. He was parish priest of Valentia, Killorglin and finally Ballymacelligot (Ballymac as the locals call it) He told me when I was young that my O'Donoghue family were awarded land in Dromkeare, Waterville by the McCarthy Mor after the battle of the Boyne 1690. I think he was correct, checking the Thomond maps the McCarthy Mor had control over that area 1690. I only discovered last year that they were also awarded over 800 acres in Canburrin just outside Cahirciveen. They seem to have had a very close relationship with Daniel O'Connell the liberator's family as Morgan O'Connell was godfather to my GG Grandfather Daniel's first son. My father's twin married an O'Connell. He had the keys to Derrynane house, when I was 14 I spent a whole afternoon reading all the letters in the study. The house had its own oratory. The letters were mainly addressed to Daniel as a magistrate, mothers looking for clemency. I must have a DNA test done shortly, I was waiting until it was a more exact science. Brendan On 13 Sep 2013, at 16:37, Rod O'Donoghue wrote: > Dear Brendan > > Do you want to put your data into our project and check yourself > against The > O'Donoghue of the Glens. I do think you have a Glens face but there > were > also lots of Mór in Glenflesk after Rory was slain and his lands > attainted. > > How many markers have you tested? > > Cheers > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of Brendan O'Donoghue > Sent: 05 September 2013 21:07 > To: Danahy Michael > Cc: irl-KERRY@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 > Dunkerron & > Kenmare > > Hello Michael, > > I have been waiting until there is an exact science. > > My family were granted land in Dromkeare, Waterville by the MCartthy > Mor > after the battle of the Boyne 1690. > > This fact is recorded in a family bible, my granduncle, who was a > parish > priest in Valentia, Killorglin and Ballymacelligot, Tralee. > > He was a very educated man, he studied in Paris and was a respected > historian, he is buried outside the front door of the Church > > of the Immaculate Conception in Ballymac. > > I know my DNA, I know I am unadulterated South Kerry blood / DNA > > My father married a lady from Bandon, Co. Cork, I have her full > lineage > going back to the 1700's > > What is my DNA going to prove, it may be a marker for other people > who came > from the area. > > I know that my family originated tin Glenflesk, Killarney prior to > 1690 > > I may be a good marker to other people claiming the same heritage, > > Brendan > > > On 5 Sep 2013, at 18:24, Danahy Michael wrote: > >> Me too Brendan and did you do the DNA and compare it with mine? >> >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Brendan O'Donoghue wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> My O'Donoghue family are from the Waterville area. >>> >>> My grandfather was the doctor in Waterville, my grand uncle was a >>> teacher near Waterville. >>> >>> I would love more information on the books. >>> >>> Brendan >>> On 5 Sep 2013, at 17:35, Paul Keroack wrote: >>> >>>> Peter, >>>> >>>> According to John Grenham's "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors," there >>>> are only a few RC parishes in Kerry which kept sacramental records >>>> before 1820, primarily in urban areas, such as Killarney. >>>> >>>> In other areas, oral histories preserve some earlier family >>>> history. >>>> For instance, in the Waterville area, a retired teacher wrote >>>> locally published books some years ago which recorded and preserved >>>> such histories illuminating one of my family lines to before 1800. >>>> >>>> Perhaps the new IrelandXO effort to reach out to descendants of >>>> immigrants may offer some possibilities. >>>> >>>> Paul Keroack >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Peter R Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> >>>> To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:38 AM >>>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Myles CRONIN & Honora CLIFFORD c1820 Dunkerron >>>> & Kenmare >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm rejoining the list after many years hoping some new data may >>>> be available. >>>> >>>> I've checked list archives and there don't seem to be many >>>> researchers of the above surnames, despite Cronin being fairly >>>> prominent in Kerry records. Perhaps they are more widespread >>>> further >>>> north outside Dunkerron & Kenmare. >>>> >>>> The Irish Times map of RC Parishes in Kerry shows Templenoe as the >>>> local parish, but when you look at records on the Irish Genealogy >>>> website it seems to be split between Templenoe and Kenmare. >>>> >>>> I wonder if anyone knows of pre 1800 records. The earliest Cronin >>>> BDM record that I can find in all Kerry is the 1820 marriage of the >>>> above. >>>> >>>> Myles and Honora had five children baptised in Dunkerron - John >>>> 1821, Mary 1824. Margaret 1831, Myles 1837 and Cornelius 1840. >>>> Trees >>>> based on records from USA suggest a Daniel & Timothy as well. >>>> >>>> Margaret Cronin b1831 was my great great grandmother. She was sent >>>> to Australia in 1850 from Kenmare Workhouse as a Famine Orphan. >>>> Both parents are shown as deceased. >>>> >>>> I'd like to know the origins of her parents, when they died, and >>>> what happened to Margaret's siblings. >>>> >>>> Margaret's story appears on the Irish Famine Memorial website >>>> along with over 4,000 other orphan girls >>>> http://www.irishfaminememorial.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter BOOTH - Family Historian, SYDNEY >>>> --------------------------------------- >>>> _______________ >>>> --------------- >>>> >>>> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>>> >>>> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an >>>> email >>>> to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >>>> >>>> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >>>> >>>> Share your stuff! 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Hello, this primarily to Brendan, regarding the latest post and his granduncle priest, Father Michael, of Valencia and Killorglin. I have been searching for Connell ancestors and that wider family. A Mary Moran married a Daniel Connell, both from, I think, this area, but married in Glamorgan, Wales. I have asked about the Moran family too much on this list, but this just sounds too close not to ask. Someone (I will search) was from Derrynane! (possibly my gr uncle Bartholomew Shea?) Thank you. Sue

Brendan, Properly skeptical I see. What the DNA helps show is not who you are - you do indeed know that . It helps other researchers find their way to you and you to them. The universe is connectional, man, at least the South Kerry part. And a good thing it is. Go for it. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://thayerfamilies.com/thomas-line.htm

Thank you for all of your helpful answers. I have found Andrew's name spelled MOYNAHAN. He married Margaret SCANNEL, on 28 Feb. 1865 in Rathmore with Nohaval & Kilcummin, Kerry, Ireland. My ggrandmother (one of their children) was Katherine Agnes Moynahan. She was born 25 Aug. 1881 County Kerry, Kearney, Ireland. I am visiting Kerry next week from NY hoping to discover more about my relatives. Any help greatly appreciated. Diane Sent from my iPad On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:42 AM, Diane <diane212@optonline.net> wrote: > Will be visiting Kerry this week. Seeking info regarding my ancestors. They had a daughter named Catherine. > > Sent from my iPad > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeannette, You should have done the homework before you left home. Try this site http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ Click on the Search button and then select Church records. If you use Nicholas and Castleisland, it has the parents' marriage and the baptism of Edward but no Margaret. She may be in another parish or mistranscribed. Unfortunately, I'm told that little data exists before 1820. Enjoy your holiday. Peter