Hello Patsy, I hope you are keeping well. I sent some pictures of memorials in Muckross Abbey. There was a plaque to Paddy Kelly and I taught that his wife should on the same one In other words I assumed she was dead. In Killarney every they run a competition Killarney Looking Good this encourages people to keep the town tidy and set flowers ect this part of a national competition and Killarney does well. About six week ago there was a prize giving in Muckross House and I was introduced to a man who was a son of Paddy Kelly and he told me he was going to America the next week as his Mother was celebrating her 90th birthday so that puts the record straight. Have a Happy Christmas and a Good new year All are well here TG Weather very bad Michael

I couldn't have said that better myself! ~Kathleen from Connecticut Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:18:24 +0000 (UTC) From: n2genealogy@comcast.net Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to all you out there in Kerry Land and beyond! Where would we be without the Kerry listers to help us along? And a big Thank You to Ray Marshall for being the administrator ! ~Patsy

Happy Christmas and Holiday to all Listers out there I very much agree with Patsy re the great help provided by Ray Marshall Weather in Killarney is foul, storms, rain and floods hail and frost in some parts, Weather warnings on radio and tv. All out there enjoy the season as you read this I will be singing Christmas in Killarney Michael -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 23 December 2013 08:00 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 210 Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 209 (n2genealogy@comcast.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:18:24 +0000 (UTC) From: n2genealogy@comcast.net Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 209 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <216320713.2148813.1387739904557.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to all you out there in Kerry Land and beyond! Where would we be without the Kerry listers to help us along? And a big Thank You to Ray Marshall for being the administrator ! ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 3:00:02 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 209 ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 210 *****************************************

I would love to find someone connected to either McDonnell or Quirk families from Listowel, particularly going back to the mid 1800s. My great grandfather Michael McDonnell, born about 1850, married Mary Quirk born in 1839. The probably married in or about 1855 or 1856 as their first child Michael was born in 1857 in Listowel and their second child Ann was born in 1858. I cannot find a marriage record for Michael and Mary. No death record for Michael. Mary died in 1913 while living with her siblings in Listowel. The siblings names were Catherine, James and Jeremiah. Michael Jr. died in 1914 in Bedford. His son Michael died in the USA. Any information on this family, going forward or backward would be greatly appreciated. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all and may all your brick walls come tumbling down. Regards, Anne McDonnell Livak

Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to all you out there in Kerry Land and beyond! Where would we be without the Kerry listers to help us along? And a big Thank You to Ray Marshall for being the administrator ! ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 3:00:02 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 209

My great-grandfather was born in County Kerry, Glenflesk area, in a town/region called Old Forge/Ironmills. He emigrated to the US in 1879. My great-aunts kept a blue piece of paper written on by PP John Shanahan in 1874 (County Kerry), which attests to my great-grandfather's character. It says that his character was irreproachable and he gave his date of birth (18 February,1855). He also signed it as "Parish Priest , Glenflesk and Barradurre". When I was trying to find out if he indeed was baptised there, I sent a letter to the current Parish Priest (in 1998) who confirmed his baptism. I had asked him about Barradurre and he said it was really called Barraduff (even though it clearly says "Barrdurre".) So Pete Schermerhorn, my neighbor to the west may be right about the rr vs the ff's. But couldn't the f be because of the old English style where an "s" was a subscript (going above and below the line as in lower-case p, as an example?). And funny you should mention Millstreet, my great-grandfather, summoned his wife to be, Julia Lehane of Millstreet, County Cork, to be with him in Massachusetts. They married in Northampton, MA. I hope this helps to find out more about Garraneduff! ~Patsy PS, it you ever go to Dublin, look for the Little Museum of Dublin. A copy of my Great-grandfather's Tin-Type and of Father John Shanahan's 1874 testament to my great-grandfather's character can be seen there. ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:00:04 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 208 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Location search (PeteScherm@aol.com) 2. Re: Location search (kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com) 3. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 207 (Ava Woods) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:41:59 -0500 (EST) From: PeteScherm@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Location search To: cdynan@rcn.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9f332.225388f7.3fe45fb7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cheryl writes: === a location that may be in Kerry but may be in Cork. [snip] The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal record. === Cheryl, As Marge mentioned, there aren't many "close" placenames in Co. Kerry (or in Cork, for that matter). But I think her two Kerry locations are too far from the Millstreet parish to be probable. One is out on the Dingle peninsula near Dingle town, and the other is 4 miles WSW of Castleisland town. I have a great location in mind, but there's a wee problem......it would require an odd mis-reading of 19th century script - a double "f" read as a double "r". It seems unlikely, I'll admit. But the townland of Garraneduff is only a mile or so East of Millstreet town, in Co. Cork........close enough for a convenient baptism. I didn't find any truly suitable candidates in Co. Cork, other than this dubious one. I'm not sure how an "ff" script could look like an "rr". Perhaps someone with more experience in reading Irish script of the period could comment on this. It really does sound unlikely, I must admit. But it's all I've got. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:13:57 -0800 From: "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Location search To: PeteScherm <PeteScherm@aol.com> Cc: Kerry List <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com>, Cheryl Dynan <cdynan@rcn.com> Message-ID: <CAMXw=0ZwppbXdfaeyKDJE6=y1Dfqu0y7AROsvXFtesSai_T-aQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think Pete's suggestion is a much better one than mine. I must admit I did not look to see where Millstreet was in comparison to the place names that I found. Also, consider how the name might be interpreted by a priest new to the area if the person did not pronounce it clearly enough. Sl?n, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

Shannah, My great grandmother was Mary Shea. She married Patrick Sullivan about 1860 and they lived on Valentia Island off the SW Kerry coast. I believe that she had a brother by the name of Denis and, if so, their father was Daniel Shea. Denis had a daughter by the name of Bridget who was my grandmother's cousin. I am still working on this line. Do you think that there can be any connection? That would be wonderful! Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ava Woods <overthepond06@gmail.com> wrote: > Marge, > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :). > > I was wondering, please, if you might have a SHEA/TWISS in your Tree. I > can not say where or what the dates are--my apologies. :( I believe it > might be in Kerry and might be in the 1800's. If not, in Tipp. > > Again, my apologies. I have everything written down on paper and do not > use my program due to a form of dyslexia. > > Thank you so much. > > Cousin Shannah TWISS > overthepond06@gmail.com > Canada >

Marge, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :). I was wondering, please, if you might have a SHEA/TWISS in your Tree. I can not say where or what the dates are--my apologies. :( I believe it might be in Kerry and might be in the 1800's. If not, in Tipp. Again, my apologies. I have everything written down on paper and do not use my program due to a form of dyslexia. Thank you so much. Cousin Shannah TWISS overthepond06@gmail.com Canada On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:00 AM, <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Location search (cdynan@rcn.com) > 2. Re: Location search (kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: cdynan@rcn.com > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:48:52 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Location search > Hi everyone and Happy holidays! I don't lost as much as I used to but eat > all the emails, and still miss Jack. Ray I hope you are well. > > Wondering if anyone knows of a location that may be in Kerry but may be in > Cork. This group is always my go to place. > The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal > record. > > Cheryl in snowy Framingham MA > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com> > To: Cheryl Dynan <cdynan@rcn.com> > Cc: Kerry List <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:24:31 -0800 > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Location search > Cheryl, > Here are 2 possibilities from Sean Ruad > http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/index.html : > > Townland Garraundarragh > > Acres 316 > > County Kerry > > Barony Trughanacmy > > Civil Parish Currans > > PLU Killarney > > Province Munster > > > > > > Townland Garrynadur > > Acres 207 > > County Kerry > > Barony Corkaguiny > > Civil Parish Minard > > PLU Dingle > Province Munster > > I just searched the county of Kerry and left everything else blank. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > O'Connor in Kerry > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, > King in Kildare > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:48 AM, <cdynan@rcn.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone and Happy holidays! I don't lost as much as I used to but eat > > all the emails, and still miss Jack. Ray I hope you are well. > > > > Wondering if anyone knows of a location that may be in Kerry but may be > in > > Cork. This group is always my go to place. > > The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal > > record. > > > > Cheryl in snowy Framingham MA > > _______________ > > --------------- > > > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Cheryl writes: === a location that may be in Kerry but may be in Cork. [snip] The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal record. === Cheryl, As Marge mentioned, there aren't many "close" placenames in Co. Kerry (or in Cork, for that matter). But I think her two Kerry locations are too far from the Millstreet parish to be probable. One is out on the Dingle peninsula near Dingle town, and the other is 4 miles WSW of Castleisland town. I have a great location in mind, but there's a wee problem......it would require an odd mis-reading of 19th century script - a double "f" read as a double "r". It seems unlikely, I'll admit. But the townland of Garraneduff is only a mile or so East of Millstreet town, in Co. Cork........close enough for a convenient baptism. I didn't find any truly suitable candidates in Co. Cork, other than this dubious one. I'm not sure how an "ff" script could look like an "rr". Perhaps someone with more experience in reading Irish script of the period could comment on this. It really does sound unlikely, I must admit. But it's all I've got. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

I think Pete's suggestion is a much better one than mine. I must admit I did not look to see where Millstreet was in comparison to the place names that I found. Also, consider how the name might be interpreted by a priest new to the area if the person did not pronounce it clearly enough. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM, <PeteScherm@aol.com> wrote: > Cheryl writes: > > === a location that may be in Kerry but may be in Cork. [snip] The > location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal record. > === > > Cheryl, > > As Marge mentioned, there aren't many "close" placenames in Co. Kerry (or > in Cork, for that matter). But I think her two Kerry locations are too far > from the Millstreet parish to be probable. One is out on the Dingle > peninsula near Dingle town, and the other is 4 miles WSW of Castleisland > town. > > I have a great location in mind, but there's a wee problem......it would > require an odd mis-reading of 19th century script - a double "f" read as a > double "r". It seems unlikely, I'll admit. But the townland of > Garraneduff is > only a mile or so East of Millstreet town, in Co. Cork........close enough > for a convenient baptism. I didn't find any truly suitable candidates in > Co. Cork, other than this dubious one. I'm not sure how an "ff" script > could > look like an "rr". > > Perhaps someone with more experience in reading Irish script of the period > could comment on this. It really does sound unlikely, I must admit. But > it's all I've got. > > > Pete > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > </HTML> >

Hi everyone and Happy holidays! I don't lost as much as I used to but eat all the emails, and still miss Jack. Ray I hope you are well. Wondering if anyone knows of a location that may be in Kerry but may be in Cork. This group is always my go to place. The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal record. Cheryl in snowy Framingham MA

Cheryl, Here are 2 possibilities from Sean Ruad http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/index.html : Townland Garraundarragh Acres 316 County Kerry Barony Trughanacmy Civil Parish Currans PLU Killarney Province Munster Townland Garrynadur Acres 207 County Kerry Barony Corkaguiny Civil Parish Minard PLU Dingle Province Munster I just searched the county of Kerry and left everything else blank. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:48 AM, <cdynan@rcn.com> wrote: > Hi everyone and Happy holidays! I don't lost as much as I used to but eat > all the emails, and still miss Jack. Ray I hope you are well. > > Wondering if anyone knows of a location that may be in Kerry but may be in > Cork. This group is always my go to place. > The location is written as Grandurr on a Millstreet parish baptismal > record. > > Cheryl in snowy Framingham MA > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A chairde,   Mar tá a fhios ag cuid mhaith agaibh, scríobhaim ailt shaor in aisce ar ár sinsir.  /  As many of you know, I write free articles about our ancestors.    Tá ailt nua ar mo shuíomh ag:  /  I have new articles on my site at:   www.irishtribes.com/articles.html Ina measc atá ailt faoinár Seanchas.  /  Among them are articles about our ancient genealogical tradition.   Freisin, tá foram ann chun freagra a thabhairt d’aon cheisteanna atá agaibh faoin gcultúr Gaelach.  /  Also, there’s a forum to answer any questions you have about Gaelic culture.   To group members:  I belong to several groups.  If you belong to several groups, it’s likely you’ll see this message several times.  To avoid bothering those who are botherable, I only send this kind of email about once every quarter.   To group owners:  If you don’t want your group to receive these articles, just let me know and I will immediately take your group off the list. Go mbaine sibh sult astu! / Hope you enjoy them! Le gach dea-ghuí, Gearóid / Jerry

Brendan Lynch has kindly sent another sent of headstones. The new set is for Kilshannig Graveyard. You can find it by going to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on KERRY and then HEADSTONES. The date of Dec is bolded to help you find it. Enjoy! Christina

Christopher, It looks like Civil Registrations on Family Search only have Registration District and not County. So results or lack of would depend on what you included in your search criteria. You use the term "death certificate" for Mary. Is this an actual certificate or just an online record? I'd use those same location details to search for the death of James. It also helps if you say where you've searched and what criteria you've used. Did you try both the White and Whyte variants? You might like to try http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ Peter

Hello Chris, I also have ancestors from the Ballymacelligott Parish. They immigrated to New Zealand. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/county/kerry/kerrc.html outlines the various Parishes and the dates of records held for each Parish. Ballymacelligott Parish Catholic Church records commence 1868. Records prior to this date for this Parish are no longer in existence. Some reports I have read said this may have been due to a fire about 1866 that destroyed all records. In the 1940 Probate of my 80 year old great grandmother in NZ, one of her daughters signed an affidavit saying she was in possession of her mother's Baptism Certifcate dated 7th October 1860 at the Church of the Immaculate Conception, Ballymacelligott, County Kerry, Ireland. So although there was a Baptism Certificate for my great grandmother from Ballymacelligott in 1860, that record does not appear on the http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords Kerry Parish Records site. Nor the c1850 - 1868 records for any of the siblings of my great grandparents. I have no doubts they were all Baptised - the records are just no longer in existence. The above may be one reason why you can not locate pre 1868 records for your family. Best wishes in your research. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Dowd Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:35 AM To: IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] White / Spillane I am looking for information concerning my great great grand parents James White (Whyte) and Mary Spillane. They were both RC and resided on a farm located in the Townland of Ashill (Ash Hill), Ballymacelligot in the mid to late 1800s. I have not been able to locate church or civil records of their births or marriage. They both appear on the 1901 census living on the Ashill farm. James' age is listed as 80 and Mary's as 79. Mary died in 1902. Her death certificate reflects her age as 84. James is not listed on the 1911 census, however repeated searches for his death record at the GRO were negative. Also residing at the Ashill farm were James’ and Mary's adult daughter Margaret White Spillane, Margaret’s husband Patrick Spillane, born in 1865 in Killorglin, and their seven children: Hanoria M. Spillane 1891-1980 (emigrated to Boston in 1912), Julia Celia Spillane 1893 – 1972 (emigrated to Boston), Thomas Spillane 1894 – 1947, James Spillane 1894 – 1975, Denis Spillane 1897 – 1969, Mary Spillane 1899 – 1940, Katherine Spillane 1901 – 1938 and Bridget Spillane 1906 – 1970 (emigrated to Boston). Margaret died in 1944 and her death record reflects her age as 79. Searches at the GRO for Margaret’s birth record were negative. Any information concerning birth, marriage and death dates / records of my ancestors listed above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Chris Dowd christopherdowd235@gmail.com _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan writes: === Moulineil - I have been looking at this discussion for a while and then today's version of the spelling reminded me of Moulineil which was given to me years ago by a researcher as a possible place for the birth of my gr gr grandfather, James Shea. This is from the Kenmare Parish records, which would place it in Kenmare. === Susan, This would probably be the large townland (924 acres), officially spelled Maulyneill. It is located about 6 miles NW of Kenmare town, in a very remote part of Kerry. It is currently primarily a "forest park". It is in Templenoe civil parish which, in the mid-1800's, was also part of Kenmare RC parish. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

You may have this marriage record for Margaret White and Patrick Spillane already but thought I would post the link just in case. http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5058c30520990 You also possibly know that the early registers of Ballymacelligott R.c. parish have not survived - the earliest records start from 1868 - so it the White family lived continously at Ash Hill it is unlikely you will find baptisms or marriage records for Margaret Whites parents. Regards Clare On 4 December 2013 21:35, Christopher Dowd <christopherdowd235@gmail.com>wrote: > I am looking for information concerning my great great grand parents James > White (Whyte) and Mary Spillane. They were both RC and resided on a farm > located in the Townland of Ashill (Ash Hill), Ballymacelligot in the mid to > late 1800s. > > I have not been able to locate church or civil records of their births or > marriage. They both appear on the 1901 census living on the Ashill farm. > James' age is listed as 80 and Mary's as 79. > > Mary died in 1902. Her death certificate reflects her age as 84. James is > not listed on the 1911 census, however repeated searches for his death > record at the GRO were negative. > > Also residing at the Ashill farm were James’ and Mary's adult daughter > Margaret White Spillane, Margaret’s husband Patrick Spillane, born in 1865 > in Killorglin, and their seven children: Hanoria M. Spillane 1891-1980 > (emigrated to Boston in 1912), Julia Celia Spillane 1893 – 1972 (emigrated > to Boston), Thomas Spillane 1894 – 1947, James Spillane 1894 – 1975, Denis > Spillane 1897 – 1969, Mary Spillane 1899 – 1940, Katherine Spillane 1901 – > 1938 and Bridget Spillane 1906 – 1970 (emigrated to Boston). > > Margaret died in 1944 and her death record reflects her age as 79. Searches > at the GRO for Margaret’s birth record were negative. > > Any information concerning birth, marriage and death dates / records of my > ancestors listed above would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you > > Chris Dowd > > christopherdowd235@gmail.com > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for information concerning my great great grand parents James White (Whyte) and Mary Spillane. They were both RC and resided on a farm located in the Townland of Ashill (Ash Hill), Ballymacelligot in the mid to late 1800s. I have not been able to locate church or civil records of their births or marriage. They both appear on the 1901 census living on the Ashill farm. James' age is listed as 80 and Mary's as 79. Mary died in 1902. Her death certificate reflects her age as 84. James is not listed on the 1911 census, however repeated searches for his death record at the GRO were negative. Also residing at the Ashill farm were James’ and Mary's adult daughter Margaret White Spillane, Margaret’s husband Patrick Spillane, born in 1865 in Killorglin, and their seven children: Hanoria M. Spillane 1891-1980 (emigrated to Boston in 1912), Julia Celia Spillane 1893 – 1972 (emigrated to Boston), Thomas Spillane 1894 – 1947, James Spillane 1894 – 1975, Denis Spillane 1897 – 1969, Mary Spillane 1899 – 1940, Katherine Spillane 1901 – 1938 and Bridget Spillane 1906 – 1970 (emigrated to Boston). Margaret died in 1944 and her death record reflects her age as 79. Searches at the GRO for Margaret’s birth record were negative. Any information concerning birth, marriage and death dates / records of my ancestors listed above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Chris Dowd christopherdowd235@gmail.com

Ellen White,dau of Andrew White, married Morto Sheehan in 1873.  I have posted this info on this site so perhaps you have seen my queries... .they lived in Kilmanihan West, Knocknagaschal, Kerry. Ellen died after the 1911 census--I think it was 1914. I became distracted from my genealogy & never pursued the White family beyond what I couldn't find on-line. I have never worked with Gao records... Since White is not a common Kerry name perhaps there is some connection... My gf,Daniel Sheehan & his sister,Mary b. 1874 immigrated to Columbus, Ohio USA in 1893. The youngest bro, Morto, b. 1878, stayed in Ireland. hope there is some connection! Good hunting, Molly On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:37 AM, Christopher Dowd <christopherdowd235@gmail.com> wrote: I am looking for information concerning my great great grand parents James White (Whyte) and Mary Spillane.  They were both RC and resided on a farm located in the Townland of Ashill (Ash Hill), Ballymacelligot in the mid to late 1800s. I have not been able to locate church or civil records of their births or marriage. They both appear on the 1901 census living on the Ashill farm. James' age is listed as 80 and Mary's as 79. Mary died in 1902. Her death certificate reflects her age as 84.  James is not listed on the 1911 census, however repeated searches for his death record at the GRO were negative. Also residing at the Ashill farm were James’ and Mary's adult daughter Margaret White Spillane, Margaret’s husband Patrick Spillane, born in 1865 in Killorglin, and their seven children: Hanoria M. Spillane 1891-1980 (emigrated to Boston in 1912), Julia Celia Spillane 1893 – 1972 (emigrated to Boston), Thomas Spillane 1894 – 1947, James Spillane 1894 – 1975, Denis Spillane 1897 – 1969, Mary Spillane 1899 – 1940, Katherine Spillane 1901 – 1938 and Bridget Spillane 1906 – 1970 (emigrated to Boston). Margaret died in 1944 and her death record reflects her age as 79. Searches at the GRO for Margaret’s birth record were negative. Any information concerning birth, marriage and death dates / records of my ancestors listed above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Chris Dowd christopherdowd235@gmail.com _______________ ---------------        Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html                                               To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff!  If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance.  Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message