http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ At the bottom right is the link to the Workhouses of Ireland. This is a really great site! Ray Marshall -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of jane dowling Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:22 PM To: Fintan Sheehan Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Tralee workhouse Hmm. It seems to me that records were only kept with regard to who could give them taxes/tithes. But am not at all sure. They'd need paper and a writing implement and the concern that goes with entering info such as that. There is a big site on Irish workhouses on the web somewhere. I know I have accessed it in the distant past. I' Maybe if you find one site, it will lead to another county site. Try: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Also, http://www.thegreathunger.org/html/main/indexa.htm The Quinipiac library is supposed to be a fine one. And, http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Tralee/Tralee.shtml I've come across others as I am v. interested in the hist of the famine/starvation. Regards, Jane On Jul 17, 2007, at 4:24 AM, Fintan Sheehan wrote: > Hi, > does anyone have any info on a workhouse that existed in Tralee in > late 1800's. Would they have kept any death records? > > Regards, > Fintan > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. > Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM

Sullivans/O'Sullivans of Derrymore East,Co. Kerry, Ireland- some of whom came out to Westfield , Holyoke, & Taunton, MA, & poss. Newport, RI , Waterbury, CT & New Haven, CT- note these are not my people as attempting to help a gentleman in Co. Kerry locate a trace of his Great-uncles. Any knowledge of any of them, let me know. Thanks, Mary tmlein@insightbb.com out of O'Briens, Foleys, Bartons, Flahertys of the Parish of Keel, Castlemaine, Co. Kerry, Dalys of Caherpierce, Inch, Annascaul , Co. Kerry and O'Connor/Connor further west on the Dingle http://groups.msn.com/BeautifulOldIrishPhotographs 1. Thomas O'Sullivan /Sullivan, of Clasheen Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, Ireland was born Abt. 1840 in Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, Ireland, son of John O'Sullivan and Bridget O'Shea, Thomas died 24 March 1912, buried Annagh, Co. Kerry, they had 9 sons, some of whom were in Westfield, MA He married Mary Murphy 13 February 1866 in daughter of James Murphy and Elizabeth Wyles. Mary was born 09 February 1846 in Derrymore West, lived Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, Ireland, when the third child was born Mary put her foot down and had him named James after her own father, and died 27 November 1911, buried Annagh,Co. Kerry, daughter of James Murphy, and Elizabeth Wyles, siblings unknown. Children of Thomas Sullivan and Mary Murphy are: 2 i. John O'Sullivan/5 Sullivan, born 24 February 1867 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry; died Unknown in ?, soon after birth, buried Annagh, though there is a place called Killeen lourn looscan in Derrymore for burial of unbaptized babies. 3 ii. John O'Sullivan Sullivan, born Abt. 1868 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry; died Unknown in ?, soon after birth, buried Annagh, though there is a place called Killeen lourn looscan in Derrymore for burial of unbaptized babies. 4 iii. James O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 01 May 1870 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, Ireland, lived Derrymore West, Co. Kerry, Ireland, bought farm, named after his grandfather James Murphy, died 16 March 1945 in St. Catherine's Hospital, Tralee, Co. Kerry of Heart Failure, buried Annagh, Co. Kerry, Ireland, had 3 sons & 2 daughters. He married Margaret Dennehy 16 February 1904; born 10 February 1878 of Derrymore West, Co. Kerry, Ireland, lived Derrymore West, Co. Kerry, Ireland; died 12 February 1914 in of a heart complaint, buried Annagh with O'Sullivans, daughter of Terence Dennehy of Derrymore West and Johanna Dineen of Tullig, Castlegregory. 5 iv. Thomas O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 07 August 1872 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, poss. emigrated to Westfield, MA,had emigrated before 1901 census, no known descendants, in May 1901 may have worked at the Solar Paper Co., Westfield, MA when his brother Denis O'Sullivan immig.on Saxonia, landing Boston; died Unknown in ?, buried ? His brother Denis O'Sullivan emig. with their 1st cousin John O'Connor, John's mother Ellen was a sister of Thomas & Denis O'Sullivan's mother, Mary Murphy O'Sullivan. 6 v. Michael 'Mike' O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 24 September 1874 in prob. Derrymore East, poss. emigrated to Westfield, MA, returned home to Ireland bought a farm at Curraheen, his 3 brothers remained in the US & were joined by the youngest member of the family Jeremiah O'Sullivan who worked at St. Mary's Hospital, Waterbury, CT; died 18 September 1938 in Curraheen, Co. Kerry, buried Annagh, Co. Kerry, Ireland, emigrated to US before 1901 census, returned in 1920's buying a farm at Curraheen, never married. 7 vi. Dan "The Dipper" O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 03 April 1877 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, he was from Derrymore, Camp, Co. Kerry, he used to come over the mountain from Derrymore to stay at Paddy Careys in Keel Parish to dip the sheep twice a year with his 2 dogs, died 09 March 1958 in Derrymore East on a Sun. morning, of Heart Failure,having been in Tralee on the previous day, his grandson Donal Ashe cycled to Tralee to fetch the priest & Dr. for him, buried Annagh, he lived at Derrymore East on the family holdings. He married Katharine 'Kate' Flahive 02 February 1915 in Tralee, Co. Kerry, Ireland; born 20 January 1880 in Curraheen,Kate in 1910 in Waterbury, with her aunt Mrs. Martin Casey at 89 Cole St., made a visit home in 1909 & returned to USA but came home again and got married, she had a relative in the fire service who was killed on duty, in poss. Waterbury, CT, his name unknown; she died 23 March 1934 in poss Derrymore East, bur Annagh d of John Flahive & Catherine Dennehy;Kate's Aunt Johanna Dennehy/ Mrs. Martin Casey emig. to Waterbury; also a cousin a daughter of her Uncle Dan Dennehy mar. a Richard Crean from Camp who was Fire Chief in Waterbury, CT when he retired. 8 vii. Denis O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 26 January 1880 in prob. Derrymore East, Co. Kerry, Ireland, in Derrymore East in 1901, but emigrated soon after the census, poss. emigrated to Westfield, MA, no known descendants, remained in USA; died Unknown in ?, buried ?, emig. May 1901 on Saxonia to Boston destination his brother Thomas O'Sullivan, Solar Paper Co., Westfield, MA, coming out with him to Boston was 1st cousin John O'Connor whose destination was Taunton, MA. 9 viii. Patrick O' Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 30 April 1882 in ?,was at Derrymore East in 1901,emigrated to USA, on Cymric arriving at Boston 20 May 1906, destination his cousin Kate O'Connor, Somerset Ave.,Taunton, MA, poss. later in Westfield, MA?, no known descendants, he remained in the USA; died Unknown in ?, buried ?, this cousin Kate O'Connor that he emig. to in Taunton mar. Henry Dent & had a child Jimmy Dent, Kate's husband left her, the child Jimmy died & she returned home to Co. Kerry, was Patrick O'Sullivan the Patrick in 1930 census of New Haven, CT as not certain he married? If so He married Mary ? Abt. 1911 in ?, not certain he ever married but from 1930 census of New Haven, where a Patrick O'Sullivan is spotted living 18 Webster St.; born Abt. 1895 in ? Connecticut, note not at all sure this wife is his or if he ever married or had children but dates are similar to his , so have put this here until more can be ascertained; died Unknown in ?, buried ?, poss.husband Patrick in 1930 18 Webster St., New Haven, CT, age 46, emig. 1905, NA, mar. 1st at 27, wife Mary age 35, mar. at 16, parents born IR, sons Thomas age 18 b CT, Electrician Street Railway, William age 16 b CT, not working or in school. 10 ix. Jeremiah "Jere T." O'Sullivan/ Sullivan, born 01 April 1885 in prob. Derrymore East, lived at Curraheen with his brother Michael, emig. 17 Oct. 1926 on Celtic to Boston, worked at St. Mary's Hospital in Waterbury when his niece Hannah O'Sullivan emig. in 1929, poss. later in Westfield,MA,1934-1940 in Newport, RhodeIsland; died Unknown in ?, buried ? no known descendants, he married his 1st cousin 1x rem, Catherine Murphy, he emig. with Paddy Murphy of Derrymore West to Paddy's Uncle a coal merchant on Dwight St., Holyoke, MA, a photo of Jeremiah with a 1st cousin 1x removed Pat Browne was taken in USA. He married Catherine Murphy 22 January 1922 in Co. Kerry; born 01 September 1900 of Derrymore West, daughter of James Murphy & Catherine Harrington, she was suffering from Tuberculosis when she married 22 Jan. 1922 & died soon after her marriage, widower prob. lived 47 Church St., Newport, Rhode Island 1934-1940; died Unknown in ?, buried ? Catherine marr Jeremiah O'Sullivan, a 1st cousin of her father; no known descendants,a Jeremiah T. Sullivan was found in the City Directories of Newport, Rhode Island in the late 1934-1940, the address matched an address his brother James O'Sullivan in Co. Kerry had in a sheep book. If anyone has any knowledge of any of the sons or descendants of Thomas O'Sullivan and Mary Murphy in the Northeast or elsewhere, please contact me. Thanks, Mary tmlein@insightbb.com

Well if the 'Subject' line is not to my interest I need not read the body of the message or even download it.. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel j dwyer" <bigdand1@juno.com> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198 > Can,t delete something until you read it!!!!danin Medford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Unfortunately the subject line is not always in tune with the subject. We have a lot of people that are not computer literate. They know how to hit the reply button, but do not know how to start a new topic or subject.. I have found this to be true in many cases, including some of those that just unsubscribed - they clicked a reply and unsubscribed. Liz - still researching the Sullivans of Caherciveen. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I'm with you Kay - Jack and Ray, pearls without price. Reflecting on a frosty midnight in Sydney that Sylvester Leahy, his wife Mary Shea and his brother Dennis (whose parents were Thomas Leahy, Catherine Mc Sweeney; Humphrey Shea and Ellen Connor) would no doubt be gratified to learn that one of their many gggggrandsons is actually working in a pub in Kerry, not far from the towns of Killorglin and Caherciveen which they left forever in 1839. Unfortunately it has been raining ever since he arrived, and the day he drove to the beach it was so windy he couldn't open the car door ... Michelle.

unsubscribe On 17/07/2007, at 8:54 AM, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland (Fintan Sheehan) 2. Re: I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me (Susan Tait Porcaro) 3. Re: TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland (Lizziems@aol.com) 4. Re: How to deal with topics that interest us.... (TeachSurfn@aol.com) 5. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net) 6. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (John L. Sweeney) 7. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 195 (daniel j dwyer) 8. Ireland an America's Cup contender? (John L. Sweeney) 9. Re: Other Kerrymen (Donal O'Kelly) 10. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net) 11. Variants on Irish Surnames (Mary Simpson) 12. Beara Woman Talking (Mary Simpson) From: Fintan Sheehan <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> Date: 16 July 2007 6:29:29 PM To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland Hi, AFAIK Kerry had a higher incidence of TB than other counties. Edenburn was a TB hospital outside Tralee. Think its closed and not sure if they have any records for genealogy research. My dad and his sister moved from Kerry to Longford for a period when they were teenagers IN 1920's to avoid TB. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "MonicaBOS@aol.com" <MonicaBOS@aol.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 15 July, 2007 10:09:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland My father had TB three times, lost a kidney to it and is now 87 years young. His father William McSheehy and William's identical twin Francis, both died of TB the same year my father was born, 1920. As I have done my family search, I keep finding family that died of TB all on my father's side, not my mother's. So I am wondering, and I know this is a "reach", if my mother's folk (Co. Mayo) not having TB was just luck or is there a susceptibility among the Kerry folk to TB. Just curious. I do know that because of my father, I have been told that I need to be screened for it for the rest of my life and the last time he had it was around 1959. Monica ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From: "Susan Tait Porcaro" <suetaitporcaro@comcast.net> Date: 16 July 2007 8:37:24 PM To: "Valeris Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me Reply-To: Susan Tait Porcaro <suetaitporcaro@comcast.net> you need to unsub yourself..... to the request list, not the main mailing list I am not sick of it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valeris Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message From: Lizziems@aol.com Date: 16 July 2007 10:44:37 PM To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland TB came from many sources, which people never gave thought to. Back before milk was pastureized, cows could carry the TB germ and then whomever drank the milk from the infected cow, got the desease. We had neighbors when I was growing up that had that happen to them. First the eldest brother was admitted to a sanitarium for TB. No one knew where he got it from. Then the younger brother got TB and was admitted with his older brother. Then the mother got TB, by this time, the two boys had died, and the local authorities stepped in to find out what was causing the problem. They discovered the cow. There were two young girls that for some reason escaped the problem. I grew up with them and they had to get checked every year and was always free of the germ. The father on the other hand was not so lucky, and he died of TB when the girls were in grade school, around the seventh or eights grades. They were sent to live with an Aunt. Last week, the oldest daughter died at age 74 from a heart attack and the younger daughter is still alive and well. - They must have had a natural amunity or were just lucky????? I know they drank the milk!! Liz ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From: TeachSurfn@aol.com Date: 16 July 2007 11:29:48 PM To: irl-kerry-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] How to deal with topics that interest us.... In a message dated 7/15/2007 10:15:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, merossi1@yahoo.com writes: Gee folks, it seems to me there is a very simple solution to deal with reading about married priests if you don't want to...or any other topic...its called the "DELETE" button. I use it often and it saves me much aggravation. I open up my inbox and check all of the mail that looks uninteresting and delete and read the rest. Its not so difficult.... All the best Mary Ellen Rossi ----------------------------------- I totally agree that this kind of strident action is not called for. I thought I was done with parochial school a long long time ago! But, I guess not! What's even MORE interesting is that off-topic topics are still entertained like boating or over-rated Irish poets. Guess the rules just apply to some. Tolerance seems to be a highly selective thing here lately. Btw, lively discussion has always been a hallmark of the other Irish lists I belong to. Maybe way off topic for this list but neither should it give some delicate souls 'the vapors.' Just my 2 cents; ought to be yours. LOL. Eileen ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> Date: 16 July 2007 9:46:01 PM To: <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney lol Must of been the other Sweeney's in that case Jack. Sadly the name of those who died under fire weren't recorded. Just more Irish riff-raff. I was amazed to see that while this town filled with Irish it was still run by the old WASP gentry. That is until the County Kerry bunch got a foot hold. The first group of Irish to break into city government were all Kerrymen. That wasn't until the latter part of the century. I have a letter written by my great grandfather James Walsh b. 1849 which is quite amazing. He was very well educated back in Kerry even though they didn't have the proverbial pot. Margaret From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Date: 17 July 2007 12:33:52 AM To: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net>, <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney Good Morning Margaret: Let the "truth be known", there are no "other Sweeney's". It must be genetic but we are all alike, a pleasant rabble. The "pleasant" is most important, it sort of softens the impact of the other reality. Love, Jack Sweeney, looking out the window at a beautiful morning in Palmer, Pennsylvania. From: daniel j dwyer <bigdand1@juno.com> Date: 17 July 2007 12:40:47 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 195 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Date: 17 July 2007 1:13:17 AM To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Ireland an America's Cup contender? Good Morning All: My Fenit contacts have informed me that no Irish America's Cup contender was ever built in the Fenit boat yard. All of Lipton's Shamrock entries were built in either Scotland or England. Evidently, Ireland was considered a part of the U.K. at the time and it was legal to build her entry in any of the "British Isles". This ends the "Ireland an America's Cup contender" topic since no Kerry boat yard built any of the Shamrocks. The crews though, practiced in the Shannon Estuary and were Kerrymen for the most part. Love, Jack Sweeney, taking nourishment in Palmer, Pennsylvania. From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> Date: 17 July 2007 1:47:33 AM To: <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Other Kerrymen There is a story about Kerrymen on the run who became Indian Chiefs in colonial era America. I'll attach that story to private email if anyone is interested. Don Kelly From: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> Date: 17 July 2007 2:03:42 AM To: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net>, <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney I have no doubt that the Canal Sweeney was a most likeable fellow too. Up to this point there was a running war between the Irish. He was able to unite them long enough to take up arms (well in this case sticks and rocks) against the Canal Overlords. To find a common ground considering the ugliness taking place just proves he was gifted with a golden tongue and a pleasing personality. ;-) Margaret From: Mary Simpson <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> Date: 17 July 2007 3:44:05 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com, irL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Variants on Irish Surnames Have been reading a lovely book " Beara Woman Talking " collected by Tadhg O Murchu, edited by Martin Verling, ( Mercier Press, ISBN 1-85635-417-2 ) and in it it gives the name MINIHANE as la local ( SW Cork ) form of the name O DRISCOLL.............. Are there any sources on line that can be used to find out other variants of surnames? You could be spending a long time trying to look up one, only to find that you should have been researching a different name altogether! Don't you just LOVE the way that Irish genealogy out-twists the most fiendish puzzles known...... Just when you think that you " know " something, the ground opens up - and it's summat else entirely!! Slan Mary From: Mary Simpson <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> Date: 17 July 2007 8:52:59 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com, IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Beara Woman Talking Kathleen This book is a collection of the recollections of a life of a woman, Peig Minihane ( O Driscoll ), born 1861, in the parish of Kilcatherine, on the Beara Penisular in south west Cork, in the years about 1939. They cover all aspects of life and death in a small farming and fishing community, and stories of the past, famine, and the sidh. It is a great read, and does inevitably mention other families and names and places, usually nearby, but could not be considered a genealogical source unless you know that your family is from that part of Ireland. It's a story about storytelling..... Mary To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

Can,t delete something until you read it!!!!danin Medford

Eileen The answer is tolerance. When I was growing up in Australia my Grand Parents Generation were about keeping the orange and the green stoush going. My Parents generation saw a great reduction in keeping old fires alight, by My generation it was unusual to find it; with my kids generation it was so rare that they never saw it, thank God. My Grandfather a Catholic married my Grandmother a Protestant. The marriage did not last to long as he was caught out in an affair. My father was baptised so often he did not know if he was coming or going; His mother would take him to CofE and his Aunt would take him to RC; so he was of revolving door faith. He went to God early [48] of cancer, before Dad departed my Grandfather asked him to be baptised a catholic, he agreed and was buried a catholic [with the blessing of all his family]. Although CofE I with my siblings attended catholic schools and I can honestly say that none of the Nuns, Brothers, priests or fellow students treated us any differently to anyone else. When I became engaged to my now wife, my future father in law heard my name and said "you are not marrying a catholic". One of my sisters married another protestant, and at the age of 50 they both converted to RC. One of my sons married a catholic girl [without changing to RC] in a catholic cathedral, the grandkids are catholic and my sons wife teaches at a catholic school none of which causes a ripple of concern to my family. Australia seems to be a great place to forgive and forget old wounds, we now have the fanatical Muslims causing problems, I hope that Australia can again throw a blanket on them. Peter O'Donoghue

Fintan, You may have already tried it, but here is a link to a web site. At the bottom, it suggests that the Kerry County Library in Tralee keeps records 1845-1922. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Tralee/Tralee.shtml If you obtain any information about this, I'd be grateful if you copied me in on it as Tralee workhouse may be central to one of the main mysteries that is puzzling me in my own research, involving a death apparently at Tralee workhouse. The mystery, in case anyone has any knowledge or hints: My great-great-grandfather, David Leahy of Meenyvoughan, Brosna, disappears from land records in about 1870 and is recorded as deceased on my great-grandfather's marriage cert in 1876, yet the only potential death record that I can find is for a David Leahy who died of "bronchitis and neglect of the person" in the mission infirmary, Tralee workhouse in 1871. Some factors suggest that this was my relation, others that it may not have been, but workhouse records might confirm one way or the other. I suppose he could have fallen ill or on hard times and either gone to the Tralee workhouse of his own volition or been taken there by a family that couldn't afford to keep him....any relevant hints gratefully received. Paul Leahy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Tralee workhouse > Hi, > does anyone have any info on a workhouse that existed in Tralee in late > 1800's. Would they have kept any death records? > > Regards, > Fintan > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Good Morning Kerry List: Just a bit of clarification, correction, whatever, in behalf of a favorite American artist, Susan Tait Porcaro from Connecticut; 2. Re: I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me (Susan Tait Porcaro) What Susan posted is a bit different, please note the NOT. Susan Tait Porcaro posted I AM NOT [NOT] SICK OF IT. This was posted to the Kerry List yesterday [Monday] in the early morning [around 6AM before I got up]. Love, Jack Sweeney, in peaceful Palmer, Pennsylvania. _________________________________________________________ The entire Susan Tait Porcaro posting below, in quotes; "you need to unsub yourself..... to the request list, not the main mailing list I am not sick of it" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valeris Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me

Hi, does anyone have any info on a workhouse that existed in Tralee in late 1800's. Would they have kept any death records? Regards, Fintan ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

I love the list the way it is. If Sweeney leaves I leave. Kay McDavitt in comfotable Maine unable to sleepat 2am ----- Original Message ----- From: <jmnadolski@aol.com> To: <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Enough! >A voice from the silent majority (I suspect). This is getting so very > BORING! Little minds doing their very best to stir the pot with their off > topic > rantings and cutsy little postcripts from Upper Cupcake PA (among > others.). > Listen to their squealing about any threat of retaliation or infringement > of > their right to free speech! Sir, you infringe on MY freedoms when I need > to > constantly delete your banalities. Do you ever think about that... or is > it all > about you? This site is for serious genealogy members. Please grow up or > go > away. Ray, what is taking you so long! > John M. Nadolski (researching Ferriter and MItchell family in Kerry) > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/902 - Release Date: 7/15/2007 > 2:21 PM > >

Kathleen This book is a collection of the recollections of a life of a woman, Peig Minihane ( O Driscoll ), born 1861, in the parish of Kilcatherine, on the Beara Penisular in south west Cork, in the years about 1939. They cover all aspects of life and death in a small farming and fishing community, and stories of the past, famine, and the sidh. It is a great read, and does inevitably mention other families and names and places, usually nearby, but could not be considered a genealogical source unless you know that your family is from that part of Ireland. It's a story about storytelling..... Mary

Good Evening Peter et al: I loved your narrative on your family and am somewhat envious of its convolutions. I cannot "top"it. Nobody [Kerry List folk] knows of my own family's situation but I must support your answer, i.e. "Tolerance", it is brilliant and so apt. I have been blessed with 5 lovely children, over time one of them married a "fallen away" [i.e. real gone] Catholic, the other one, her sister, married a Jew we all love very much, another married a Methodist who divorced him after putting up with him for over a decade and my oldest is supposed to be marrying a Baptist in May. There's no hope that my second will ever marry anybody. He loves his father too much. I couldn't care less because primarily I can't do anything about it, either as a father they all love a great deal or as a fellow citizen. It all seems to "work out" for the best, though I think that won't be happening soon enough for me, I am over 71 years old afterall and it seems that it will take more than a decade to "work out" for those who are in any trouble. I.e. my second, the others are fine. Love, Jack Sweeney, about to go to bed in Palmer, Pennsylvania

I think on that post, so I won't get in any trouble, I will pull the plug on this contraption and wait until all the little people get rid of their rants and raves and we can get back to the nice community that this has been for so long. Good night from Liz in Melbourne, Fla ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

A voice from the silent majority (I suspect). This is getting so very BORING! Little minds doing their very best to stir the pot with their off topic rantings and cutsy little postcripts from Upper Cupcake PA (among others.). Listen to their squealing about any threat of retaliation or infringement of their right to free speech! Sir, you infringe on MY freedoms when I need to constantly delete your banalities. Do you ever think about that... or is it all about you? This site is for serious genealogy members. Please grow up or go away. Ray, what is taking you so long! John M. Nadolski (researching Ferriter and MItchell family in Kerry) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Then I'll interupt the chatting to throw a Ferriter line from Kerry that ended up here in Ottawa, IL. This is the abbreviated version. I can send the long if you think it ties into your family. Descendants of Ferriter 1 Ferriter 2 Michael Ferriter b: 1827 in Co Kerry Ireland d: Nov 24, 1901 in Ottawa IL ... +Catherine McGrath b: Bet. 1827 - 1830 in Ireland m: Nov 25, 1853 in St. Columba Catholic Church, Ottawa, LaSalle Co., IL d: Dec 20, 1897 in Home, Joliet St., Ottawa IL 3 Patrick Ferriter b: Aug 26, 1854 3 John Ferriter b: Nov 11, 1858 .... +Ellen O'Neill m: Jan 18, 1881 in St. Columba Catholic Church, LaSalle Co., IL 3 Ellen Ferriter b: Oct 26, 1866 3 Anna Ferriter b: Dec 15, 1883 3 Michael H. Ferriter b: Mar 1861 d: Jan 23, 1943 .... +Ellen T. Murphy m: Oct 19, 1887 in St. Columba Catholic Church, LaSalle Co., IL d: Apr 07, 1941 . 4 Frank Ferriter b: Nov 23, 1891 d: Jun 05, 1969 3 Mary A. Ferriter b: 1864 .... +Richard J. Dougherty m: Nov 16, 1898 in St. Columba Catholic Church, LaSalle Co., IL 3 Johanna Ferriter b: Dec 1857 in Ottawa IL d: Bet. Jun 20 - 28, 1903 in Ottawa IL .... +Charles W. Monroe b: Jun 28, 1853 in Wallace Twp. IL m: Feb 08, 1875 in St. Columba Catholic Church, LaSalle Co., IL d: Jun 04, 1905 in Oglesby IL . 4 James Francis Monroe b: Aug 1876 ..... +Nina Lee m: 1905 . 4 Harry Michael Henry Monroe b: Apr 1878 2 John Ferriter b: Abt. 1821 d: Mar 19, 1888 in Ottawa IL ... +Hanora Galvin b: Abt. 1833 m: Feb 13, 1858 d: Apr 1893 in Ottawa IL

Have been reading a lovely book " Beara Woman Talking " collected by Tadhg O Murchu, edited by Martin Verling, ( Mercier Press, ISBN 1-85635-417-2 ) and in it it gives the name MINIHANE as la local ( SW Cork ) form of the name O DRISCOLL.............. Are there any sources on line that can be used to find out other variants of surnames? You could be spending a long time trying to look up one, only to find that you should have been researching a different name altogether! Don't you just LOVE the way that Irish genealogy out-twists the most fiendish puzzles known...... Just when you think that you " know " something, the ground opens up - and it's summat else entirely!! Slan Mary

Good Morning All: My Fenit contacts have informed me that no Irish America's Cup contender was ever built in the Fenit boat yard. All of Lipton's Shamrock entries were built in either Scotland or England. Evidently, Ireland was considered a part of the U.K. at the time and it was legal to build her entry in any of the "British Isles". This ends the "Ireland an America's Cup contender" topic since no Kerry boat yard built any of the Shamrocks. The crews though, practiced in the Shannon Estuary and were Kerrymen for the most part. Love, Jack Sweeney, taking nourishment in Palmer, Pennsylvania.

I have no doubt that the Canal Sweeney was a most likeable fellow too. Up to this point there was a running war between the Irish. He was able to unite them long enough to take up arms (well in this case sticks and rocks) against the Canal Overlords. To find a common ground considering the ugliness taking place just proves he was gifted with a golden tongue and a pleasing personality. ;-) Margaret