I have the birth dates of Honora and John but nothing on their dad, Timothy. Honora was born 03-NOV-1847 and John was born 24 JUN 1849. I'll go give it a try! Thanks! Donna I'll go ----- Original Message ----- From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > Put each child into your batch search separately with father as Timothy - > family search usually has variations of names for Hannah/Honora - who > could also be Nora - I see lots of possiblities - do you have date of > births? that would narrow them down. Once you get Timothy and his wife try > the wedding batch number - that might give you more information. > > Maureen - killing time! > > > Hi Maureen, > Thank you for looking that up for me! I was out late last night with the > kids getting our Harry Potter book--I think we made it to bed about 1:00 > AM... > > So all of those Timothy Sullivan's can be looked up through the Killarney > Parish? My biggest obstacle is that I don't know Timothy's wife's name (my > g-g-grandmother) and I don't know if they had more children than Honora > and > John (though I'd be surprised if they didn't). I tracked down a distant > cousin whose grandmother was one of Honora's daughters. According to my > cousin, on the night her grandmother died, all of her things were carried > out of the house and burned!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing? > Probably > all of the information on our family in Ireland was destroyed that > night...All I can think of is that they must have had way too much to > drink > at the wake. > > How do I get to the Casey Collection online? I went to the link but > couldn't > find it. I think I can order it from a nearby LDS library. Sorry for > asking > these questions but I am woefully uninformed I think. > > Also, Can you recommend a place to stay in Killarney? I am also wondering > the best way to get to Killarney from the airport--is there a train or do > I > rent a car? > > Thanks! > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> > To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > > >> Hi Donna - you are looking for one of the most common Irish names but I >> see some possibilities in the Killarney records - if you search on >> family >> search using the batch number for the Casey collection you can narrow it >> down. It will give you all the Sullivan children born to a Timothy >> Sullivan - so you have his wife's name - that would narrow it down >> further.(don't go to the local parish looking for a sullivan - they >> won't >> be able to help!) I found several Timothy's in the Griffiths index. >> Second >> word is street or town land in the civil parish of Killarney which >> pretty >> much corresponds to the Catholic parish. >> >> Sullivan Timothy Ballahacommane Killarney >> Sullivan Timothy Fleming's Lane Killarney >> Sullivan Timothy Green Lane Killarney Kerry >> Sullivan Timothy Knockaninane West Killarney Kerry >> Sullivan Timothy Teernaboul Killarney Kerry >> Sullivan Timothy, Jr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry >> Sullivan Timothy, Sr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry >> Sullivan Timy. Knocknahoe Killlarney >> >> If you have the list of John's or Hanoras children and they had boys you >> might want to run those names for other brothers - I didn't run TY which >> is also used for Timothy - you might want to try that. Several of the >> Casey records use Ty for Timothy - chances are Sullivans in same >> townland >> or street are related - see above where a father and son are listed in >> the >> same street. >> >> Some of these streets may still exist - I think there is a Killarney map >> on line you can use - >> >> The church - St. Mary's R. C. Cathedral is one of the loveliest in >> Ireland >> - designed by famour architect Pugin - built between 1853 and the turn >> of >> the century - interior reminds me of the ancient stone work in early >> Christian churches you see on Skellig Michael and Dingle. There is a >> famine graveyard out front (children) (Other Catholic church in town is >> later date) The Killarney records date from late 1700's so there was >> probably an earlier Catholic Chapel before the 1825 law allowing >> Catholics >> more freedom of religion in Ireland. >> >> Good luck >> Once again - Maureen in Southern California >> Researching Leary/Callahan/Walsh "near Killarney" (probably Rathmore - >> about 5 miles away) >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my >> trip >> by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my >> first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my >> g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a >> brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy >> Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in >> 1866--that, >> and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. >> So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I >> start? >> Any advice is greatly appreciated! >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> > > > >

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I haven't made the reservations yet. I'll be flying out of London and was thinking Shannon--what would you recommend? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi, what airport are u flying into? Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> To: mchicoine@linkline.com Cc: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 9:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans Hi Maureen, Thank you for looking that up for me! I was out late last night with the kids getting our Harry Potter book--I think we made it to bed about 1:00 AM... So all of those Timothy Sullivan's can be looked up through the Killarney Parish? My biggest obstacle is that I don't know Timothy's wife's name (my g-g-grandmother) and I don't know if they had more children than Honora and John (though I'd be surprised if they didn't). I tracked down a distant cousin whose grandmother was one of Honora's daughters. According to my cousin, on the night her grandmother died, all of her things were carried out of the house and burned!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing? Probably all of the information on our family in Ireland was destroyed that night...All I can think of is that they must have had way too much to drink at the wake. How do I get to the Casey Collection online? I went to the link but couldn't find it. I think I can order it from a nearby LDS library. Sorry for asking these questions but I am woefully uninformed I think. Also, Can you recommend a place to stay in Killarney? I am also wondering the best way to get to Killarney from the airport--is there a train or do I rent a car? Thanks! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > Hi Donna - you are looking for one of the most common Irish names but I > see some possibilities in the Killarney records - if you search on family > search using the batch number for the Casey collection you can narrow it > down. It will give you all the Sullivan children born to a Timothy > Sullivan - so you have his wife's name - that would narrow it down > further.(don't go to the local parish looking for a sullivan - they won't > be able to help!) I found several Timothy's in the Griffiths index. Second > word is street or town land in the civil parish of Killarney which pretty > much corresponds to the Catholic parish. > > Sullivan Timothy Ballahacommane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Fleming's Lane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Green Lane Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Knockaninane West Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Teernaboul Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Jr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Sr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timy. Knocknahoe Killlarney > > If you have the list of John's or Hanoras children and they had boys you > might want to run those names for other brothers - I didn't run TY which > is also used for Timothy - you might want to try that. Several of the > Casey records use Ty for Timothy - chances are Sullivans in same townland > or street are related - see above where a father and son are listed in the > same street. > > Some of these streets may still exist - I think there is a Killarney map > on line you can use - > > The church - St. Mary's R. C. Cathedral is one of the loveliest in Ireland > - designed by famour architect Pugin - built between 1853 and the turn of > the century - interior reminds me of the ancient stone work in early > Christian churches you see on Skellig Michael and Dingle. There is a > famine graveyard out front (children) (Other Catholic church in town is > later date) The Killarney records date from late 1700's so there was > probably an earlier Catholic Chapel before the 1825 law allowing Catholics > more freedom of religion in Ireland. > > Good luck > Once again - Maureen in Southern California > Researching Leary/Callahan/Walsh "near Killarney" (probably Rathmore - > about 5 miles away) > > > > Hi All, > I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my trip > by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my > first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my > g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a > brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy > Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in 1866--that, > and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. > So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I start? > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Donna > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

Hi All, What about trying to track them via Catholic rites (e.g., first communions). They (Honora and John) didn't leave Ireland until 1866 so they would have been baptised and had their first communion, etc. somewhere. Also, would there be any school records back then that I could look for? Thanks, Donna

Hi Dan, I think I will. I agree with you--they helped me try and track down a lead, that, unfortunately, led nowhere. But they were very helpful via email and over the phone. It would be great to go in and meet them in person! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel j dwyer" <bigdand1@juno.com> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 202 > Donna > My advice is to go the library in Tralee. They will bend over > backwards to help you at no charge. Even if you offer them a gratuity > they will refuse. Unless there has been a change from last Sep. > > > Dan in Medford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maureen, Thank you for looking that up for me! I was out late last night with the kids getting our Harry Potter book--I think we made it to bed about 1:00 AM... So all of those Timothy Sullivan's can be looked up through the Killarney Parish? My biggest obstacle is that I don't know Timothy's wife's name (my g-g-grandmother) and I don't know if they had more children than Honora and John (though I'd be surprised if they didn't). I tracked down a distant cousin whose grandmother was one of Honora's daughters. According to my cousin, on the night her grandmother died, all of her things were carried out of the house and burned!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing? Probably all of the information on our family in Ireland was destroyed that night...All I can think of is that they must have had way too much to drink at the wake. How do I get to the Casey Collection online? I went to the link but couldn't find it. I think I can order it from a nearby LDS library. Sorry for asking these questions but I am woefully uninformed I think. Also, Can you recommend a place to stay in Killarney? I am also wondering the best way to get to Killarney from the airport--is there a train or do I rent a car? Thanks! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <mchicoine@linkline.com> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Killarney Sullivans > Hi Donna - you are looking for one of the most common Irish names but I > see some possibilities in the Killarney records - if you search on family > search using the batch number for the Casey collection you can narrow it > down. It will give you all the Sullivan children born to a Timothy > Sullivan - so you have his wife's name - that would narrow it down > further.(don't go to the local parish looking for a sullivan - they won't > be able to help!) I found several Timothy's in the Griffiths index. Second > word is street or town land in the civil parish of Killarney which pretty > much corresponds to the Catholic parish. > > Sullivan Timothy Ballahacommane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Fleming's Lane Killarney > Sullivan Timothy Green Lane Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Knockaninane West Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy Teernaboul Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Jr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timothy, Sr. Pound Row Killarney Kerry > Sullivan Timy. Knocknahoe Killlarney > > If you have the list of John's or Hanoras children and they had boys you > might want to run those names for other brothers - I didn't run TY which > is also used for Timothy - you might want to try that. Several of the > Casey records use Ty for Timothy - chances are Sullivans in same townland > or street are related - see above where a father and son are listed in the > same street. > > Some of these streets may still exist - I think there is a Killarney map > on line you can use - > > The church - St. Mary's R. C. Cathedral is one of the loveliest in Ireland > - designed by famour architect Pugin - built between 1853 and the turn of > the century - interior reminds me of the ancient stone work in early > Christian churches you see on Skellig Michael and Dingle. There is a > famine graveyard out front (children) (Other Catholic church in town is > later date) The Killarney records date from late 1700's so there was > probably an earlier Catholic Chapel before the 1825 law allowing Catholics > more freedom of religion in Ireland. > > Good luck > Once again - Maureen in Southern California > Researching Leary/Callahan/Walsh "near Killarney" (probably Rathmore - > about 5 miles away) > > > > Hi All, > I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my trip > by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my > first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my > g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a > brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy > Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in 1866--that, > and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. > So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I start? > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Donna > > >

Donna My advice is to go the library in Tralee. They will bend over backwards to help you at no charge. Even if you offer them a gratuity they will refuse. Unless there has been a change from last Sep. Dan in Medford

Jeanne, with all the censuses I've looked up, I have never seen a page that has the county along with Ireland in the country of birth area. Is it only Madison Cty, Indiana that did this? I wish the ones I've looked up had that! Thanks for the info. ~Patsy~ Researching KELLY and O'DONOGHUE of the Iron Mills (aka Old Forge) area of Glen Flesk. (Patrick KELLY married Ellen O'DONOGHUE of Rusheenmore in 1834.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Foley Dwyer" <socrates_399@yahoo.com> To: <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry names in Madison Co., Indiana, USA > Hi, > > New to this list just to post this. I was trawling on Ancestry.com and > noticed some gross transcription errors. I would post surnames, but > although I blame the transcriptionist for not recognizing "Kerry Co. > Ireland" when he or she looked at it, I can't blame anyone for some of the > mangling of the surnames, due to the handwriting. I'm sure if it were > yours, though, you'd be able to recognize it. > > If you have a subscription to this service, and you're looking for your > people from Kerry in 1860 in the US, go to the 1860 census search page, > use only the state of Indiana, the county of Madison and the city of > Anderson, then use ireland* to pull out all places of birth that include > Ireland. > > Please email me off list with any requests to look up specific surnames, > and I'll be happy to give it a go. > > Regards, > Jeanne Foley Dwyer > > PS I have a Foley line of mine traced back to Clare in TABs, but they > likely came from Kerry prior to 1827. If you have any Foleys you know went > to Clare, please let me know. Maybe we connect! > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. >

Donna, The library there in Killarney was very helpful to me. Jim B. (James Dineen Burden) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi All, I am going to London in October and have an opportunity to extend my trip by a few days and make my first trip ever to Ireland (actually, it is my first trip ever to the UK). I'd like to travel to Killarney where my g-grandmother (Hanora) was born in 1847. All I know is that she had a brother (John T.) born in 1849 and that their father's name was Timothy Sullivan. They both (brother and sister) arrived in America in 1866--that, and the fact that they were Roman Catholic, is about all I know. So, if I only have a few days to dig up information, where should I start? Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Donna

Hi, New to this list just to post this. I was trawling on Ancestry.com and noticed some gross transcription errors. I would post surnames, but although I blame the transcriptionist for not recognizing "Kerry Co. Ireland" when he or she looked at it, I can't blame anyone for some of the mangling of the surnames, due to the handwriting. I'm sure if it were yours, though, you'd be able to recognize it. If you have a subscription to this service, and you're looking for your people from Kerry in 1860 in the US, go to the 1860 census search page, use only the state of Indiana, the county of Madison and the city of Anderson, then use ireland* to pull out all places of birth that include Ireland. Please email me off list with any requests to look up specific surnames, and I'll be happy to give it a go. Regards, Jeanne Foley Dwyer PS I have a Foley line of mine traced back to Clare in TABs, but they likely came from Kerry prior to 1827. If you have any Foleys you know went to Clare, please let me know. Maybe we connect! --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Elle" <wjarrtt@msn.com> > Date: 17 July 2007 14:11:31 BST > To: <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> > Subject: variants on names > > I know this isn't scholarly, but I have seen if you go to clan sites, > ones that sell you mugs, and sweatshirts and coasters and so on and so > on, often the name search will offer a list of variants of the name. > If I find anything else, I'll send it. I don't know how to post to the > digest, so I am sending this to you. You may post it if you like. Good > luck!

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Ray, thank you for sharing this. Fantastic picures. Mary in hot and humid North Carolina

Jane Dowling recommended that you visit the Quinnipiac University (Connecticut)Web Page, "An Gorta Mor", (The Great Hunger). Thanks, Jane! You need to share more with us! I hadn't visited there for a long time and I was wonderfully surprised at what I found and you will be too. http://www.thegreathunger.org/html/main/indexa.htm For they feature on the Home Page "Quinnipiac University's multimedia production of the Killarney Workhouse Minute books", 1845-46, the first years of the Great Famine. Click on the link beneath the cemetery photograph. I found it to be very slow loading on my new computer that wasn't designed for multi-media, but once it loaded the program operated perfectly and contained some outstanding photography and the voice of someone reading extracts from the Workhouse Minute Book for those years. It was extremely moving. Most of you probably won't have a big problem. If you aren't able to access the program, check out your local public library or a friend and mooch off of them. Sound is important on this display. Feel free to pass this on to your Irish pals who might not be blessed by being Kerry Folk. They will get value from it because the Famine didn't respect any boundaries, or faiths. It might take as much as a half hour or more to view the entire program. It will be worth it. It's the best thing Irish that I have seen on the Internet. Ray Marshall Minneapolis, sweating again. -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of jane dowling Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:22 PM To: Fintan Sheehan Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Tralee workhouse Hmm. It seems to me that records were only kept with regard to who could give them taxes/tithes. But am not at all sure. They'd need paper and a writing implement and the concern that goes with entering info such as that. There is a big site on Irish workhouses on the web somewhere. I know I have accessed it in the distant past. I' Maybe if you find one site, it will lead to another county site. Try: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Also, http://www.thegreathunger.org/html/main/indexa.htm The Quinipiac library is supposed to be a fine one. And, http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Tralee/Tralee.shtml I've come across others as I am v. interested in the hist of the famine/starvation. Regards, Jane

Hmm. It seems to me that records were only kept with regard to who could give them taxes/tithes. But am not at all sure. They'd need paper and a writing implement and the concern that goes with entering info such as that. There is a big site on Irish workhouses on the web somewhere. I know I have accessed it in the distant past. I' Maybe if you find one site, it will lead to another county site. Try: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Also, http://www.thegreathunger.org/html/main/indexa.htm The Quinipiac library is supposed to be a fine one. And, http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Tralee/Tralee.shtml I've come across others as I am v. interested in the hist of the famine/starvation. Regards, Jane On Jul 17, 2007, at 4:24 AM, Fintan Sheehan wrote: > Hi, > does anyone have any info on a workhouse that existed in Tralee in > late 1800's. Would they have kept any death records? > > Regards, > Fintan > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. > Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >