Hi List , I have not had mail since the 18th . Are you all on strike !! Last was the Viking story , I am on the O'Connor list , have all the O'Connor searcher's seen this::: Trish I am looking for O'Connor/Connor/Conner families who have a Male-to-Male pedigree going back to a specific County in Ireland. I will provide a free 37 marker DNA test kit to someone with a good pedigree dating back to 1730 or earlier. I am looking for one whose family is traced back to: Co. Kerry, Co. Cork, Co. Dublin, Co. Offaly, and Co. Kildare. If you have questions, need more details or are willing to participate. This is a limited offer and it may expire or when I get one good response it will no longer be available for that county. Contact me directly at: halsheritage@tnaccess.com O'Connors and Teahans from Ballfinnane and Currow,son Maurice went to New Zealand also Cournane and Bowler from Cahersiveen ,daughter Mary Frances married Maurice in NZ 1881

Wow! Thanks Don! I worked from my ggg grandfather, Edward Kelly who settled in Upstate, NY and managed to trace back to Kerry Co. Edward had 2 other siblings that I know of: Catherine Kelly (no info at all on her) and Anne Kelly who married a man with the last name Doyle and went to Australia. The father of Catherine, Edward and Anne is Patrick Kelly (no info on him) and Catherine Shea (her mother 's maiden name is Egan). What an interesting yet mind boggling piece of info! Thank you! GiGi Donal O'Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote: If you go back all the way to Tyrone 400AD, all Kelly's from Ireland are related, millions of them. They claim ten clans in Ireland, but those traced back to the same place, County Tyrone, Ireland. They were probably there under a different name before that. Good thought<GRIN> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan and GiGi Brakeville To: Donal O'Kelly Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Egan, Shea, Kelly, Doyle Hi Don, Thanks for the reply. Right now I am going through a haystack looking for the needle. When I do find someone, they have usually passed away or don't care about their past. I wonder if your Kelly line could be related? My ggg grandfather, Edward Kelly, left Ireland to come to Upstate NY. He had two other sisters: Anne and Catharine. Anne married a man by the name of Doyle and moved to Australia. And...there is no sign of Catherine anywhere. GiGi Donal O'Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote: Yes, Kelly from King and Queen County, VA era 1700 - 1755. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan and GiGi Brakeville" To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Egan, Shea, Kelly, Doyle > Greeting all! > Have been off line a while as we have just completed our 2nd move in 9 > months (military). We are now in VA. Does anyone have these names in > their family tree: > > Egan > Shea > Kelly > Doyle > > Many thanks, > GiGi > Chesapeake, VA > > > "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who > are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert > Einstein > > > > --------------------------------- > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! > Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 > 1:46 PM > > "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

Dear Don: I haven't a clue about the time ex-Vikings became Kerrymen I do know quite a few of them who settled in Donegal eventually became some of my ancestors. Over more time, when the Galloglass couldn't find their usual work involving mayhem, they got into farming and some of them would up or already were in Kerry. So, I suppose you're right, if not immediate, then eventually.. Love, Jack Sweeney where it's about to thunder, Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Good Afternoon All: Looks like there's much to be said about some of our ancestors, namely, The Vikings. Invaders? Certainly! However, like every other invader of Ireland they were absorbed into that wonderful place by those wonderful people. Of course it took more than a few weeks for the Irish women of the day to cast their spells. Worthwhile however, afterall we're here. Love, Jack Sweeney, in slightly overcast, pleasant Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Ireland A melting pot by any name. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> To: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] The Viking subject. > Dear Don: > I haven't a clue about the time ex-Vikings became Kerrymen > I do know quite a few of them who settled in Donegal eventually > became some of my ancestors. > > Over more time, when the Galloglass couldn't find their usual > work involving mayhem, they got into farming and some of them would up or > already were in Kerry. > > So, I suppose you're right, if not immediate, then eventually.. > > Love, Jack Sweeney where it's about to thunder, Palmer, Pennsylvania. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: > 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM > >

Yes, Kelly from King and Queen County, VA era 1700 - 1755. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan and GiGi Brakeville" <snoopy8u@yahoo.com> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Egan, Shea, Kelly, Doyle > Greeting all! > Have been off line a while as we have just completed our 2nd move in 9 > months (military). We are now in VA. Does anyone have these names in > their family tree: > > Egan > Shea > Kelly > Doyle > > Many thanks, > GiGi > Chesapeake, VA > > > "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who > are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert > Einstein > > > > --------------------------------- > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! > Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 > 1:46 PM > >

Greeting all! Have been off line a while as we have just completed our 2nd move in 9 months (military). We are now in VA. Does anyone have these names in their family tree: Egan Shea Kelly Doyle Many thanks, GiGi Chesapeake, VA "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

Sho nuff John. Half our ancestors were female, and we love them all. By the way, a long time ago I read where the Vikings who stayed in the greater Kinsale area, became thereafter known as Kerrymen. Any truth to that? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] The Viking subject. > Good Afternoon All: > > Looks like there's much to be said about some of our ancestors, namely, > The > Vikings. > > Invaders? Certainly! However, like every other invader of Ireland they > were > absorbed into that wonderful place by those wonderful people. > > Of course it took more than a few weeks for the Irish women of the day to > cast their spells. > > Worthwhile however, afterall we're here. > > Love, Jack Sweeney, in slightly overcast, pleasant Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Good morning listers. The people who made and sailed this Viking craft are to be congratulated. Based on their experience transporting the craft to Ireland points out what we already knew, the Norsh and Swedish Vikings were a tough bunch. As an aside, while researching the area of Lough Ree where my extended Kelly family lived for centuries, divers have found dozens of Viking crafts on the bottom of lakes Lough Derg and Ree. Apparently, along with some very rough weather, some battles also took place there which would be interesting to know about, that is if the Vikings left written records. I never thought much about that before. And the Shannon River is not a bubbling brook either. The Vikings had to enter the river at Kilrush and from there navigate up the Shannon to Lough Derg ( O'Brien's territory) then up to Lough Ree (O'Kelly's territory) and all the while passing hostile armies on both sides of the river. Their targets of course were rich monastic sites and many a Viking died to obtain a gold framed picture or statue. They were a tough bunch. Don Kelly

Danes say sorry for Viking raids on Ireland · We are not proud of the massacres, says minister · Apology marks arrival of replica longboat in Dublin Owen Bowcott, Ireland correspondent Thursday August 16, 2007 The Guardian More than 1,200 years ago hordes of bloodthirsty Viking raiders descended on Ireland, pillaging monasteries and massacring the inhabitants. Yesterday, one of their more mild-mannered descendants stepped ashore to apologise. The Danish culture minister, Brian Mikkelson, who was in Dublin to participate in celebrations marking the arrival of a replica Norse longboat, apologised for the invasion and destruction inflicted. "In Denmark we are certainly proud of this ship, but we are not proud of the damages to the people of Ireland that followed in the footsteps of the Vikings," Mr Mikkelson declared in his welcoming speech delivered on the dockside at the river Liffey. "But the warmth and friendliness with which you greet us today and the Viking ship show us that, luckily, it has all been forgiven." The Havhingsten (Sea Stallion) sailed more than 1,000 miles across the North Sea this summer with a crew of 65 men and women in what was described as a "living archaeological experiment". The reconstructed longboat was based on a ship found at the bottom of the Roskilde Fjord, south of Copenhagen. The original vessel was believed to have been built in Dublin - then a Viking city - in 1042 and to have sunk 30 years later. The wreck was discovered in 1962 and tests on the timbers enabled archaeologists to trace the wood to trees from Glendalough, County Wicklow. The first Viking raiding parties arrived in Ireland in 795, targeting wealthy monasteries on outlying islands such as Rathlin, County Antrim and Inishmurray, County Sligo. By 841, Vikings were over-wintering in fortified settlements such as Dublin, Wexford and Waterford and over the next two centuries these cities were gradually absorbed into local Irish kingdoms. The replica ship - built using tools of the era - is 30 metres long and the largest reconstructed longboat ever built. Guile rather than brute strength was needed to ensure that the Sea Stallion completed its voyage from Roskilde to Dublin in time for the celebrations. The Vikings relied upon sail and rowing power. When the winds failed this summer, the longboat was towed for 345 miles. However, archaeologists advising the project insisted that the experiment had proved the seaworthiness of Viking vessels. Diarmuid Murphy, 34, from Bantry, Co Cork, one of the sailors on the ship, admitted he almost gave up at the outset. "About 18 hours into it I was just so cold and wet and I said there's no way I'll do this," he said. The crew survived on a diet of dried food and had to sleep in the exposed and cramped conditions of an open boat for six weeks - with occasional respite on a support vessel. "There was cold, lashing rain on some days from the morning until the following morning," the ship's project manager, Prieben Rather Sorensen, said. "We did not have the time that the Vikings had as we had to be here today. That was one of the challenges." The longboat is due to make the return voyage next summer.

Hi List Time to repost my Irish interest names I AM TRYING TO TRACE ANY DESCENDANTS OF ELLEN GLOSTER BORN AROUND 1835 FROM TRALEE WHO'S PARENTS WERE NORA(NEE KENNEDY) AND THOMAS GLOSTER ELLEN CAME TO NEW ZEALAND IN 1864 AND MARRIED ANGELO PASCO IN INVERCARGILL NEW ZEALAND IN 1865 and Ellen and Angelo were my great grandparents. Thanks a lot for your help in anticipation Kind regards from down under Marie Walker Christchurch New Zealand --

Hi all , If you are a long time user of the Kerry list , you will know PeteScherm@aol.com Pete has researched Ireland especially Kerry in detail of many years He has asked me to pass on a message as he has had trouble with Rootsweb and his computer. They have tried to fix the problem for him but at the present time he is only able to send the subject line to the list, nothing in the body of the email Just say I asked the list where Ballfinnane is, Pete answers me by sending to the list an email with " Ballyfinnane "in the subject line and you also want that information. Please feel free to ask Pete on his email address Hope this helps. Trish in Sydney Here is his message to me . Admittedly, I've probably been to more areas of the county than most people, but my knowledge is still quite limited and specialized. It occurred to me, though, that merely adding to the subject heading that I have "replied off-list" might not send enough of a message. I would hope that if any other listers were interested in that particular subject, that they would feel free to contact me personally and I could relay my reply to them - together with any additional information they might want. Perhaps you could suggest this to the list for me ?? It's not a complete answer, but perhaps it would be a better "work-around" than my having no presence on the list at all.

A group in the USA is offering to purchase a 37 marker DNA test kit and send it to you if you have a surnmae of Connor/O'Connor/Conner from Co. Kerry or the Kingdom of Kerry, and if you have a good documeted pedigree back to 1735 or before. Contact me directly for test kit or quesitos: halsheritage@tnaccess.com

-----Original Message----- From: libraryireland-bounces@booksulster.com [mailto:libraryireland-bounces@booksulster.com]On Behalf Of Books Ulster Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:06 PM To: Library Ireland Subject: [Library Ireland] Atlas and Cyclopedia of Ireland (1900) The Atlas and Cyclopedia of Ireland (1900) by P. W. Joyce and A. M. Sullivan is now available on www.libraryireland.com via the following link: http://www.libraryireland.com/Atlas/Home.php The Atlas gives a description of each county including the origin of the name, size and population, mountains and hills, rivers, lakes, islands, towns, and ancient divisions and designations. An accompanying map for each county shows the baronies. For most counties there are a number of photographs showing prominent landmarks and buildings. The second part of the book is a complete general history of Ireland by A. M. Sullivan (completed by P. D. Nunan). No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM

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Jim B --- The ancestry.com database is from 1850 - 1883 (the majority of the records in the earlier years). I do love this resource --- I recommend looking at all your names/places even if the years are "off" --- so few places to find maiden names in those early years. There are 12 Dineens in the test books. An example ---- Dineen/Reilly/Sullivans all together on these accts: Index: Michael Dineen, b 1839, IRE, Glenflesk (?), Kerry, acct opened 8 Apr 1862 Image: Michael b 1839, arrvd Jun 1860 residence: Knockagarry Cork, b. Glenflest, Kerry, single, father in IRE is Daniel, mother Nancy Leary dead. Johanna Dineen b 1820, Knockacopel(?), Kerry, arrvd July 1856 on the "Ethiopian" married to Cornelius Sullivan (1803), 2 children Michael & Bridget. This is a convoluted entry with a Patrick Reilly b. 1833, Knock________ Kerry, father John dead, mother Johanna Dineen in IRE. About New York Emigrant Savings Bank, 1850-1883 The Emigrant Savings Bank in the U.S. was established in 1850 by members of the Irish Emigrant Society. The bank ended up serving thousands of Irish immigrants who fled to America following the infamous Potato Famine. The bank kept many volumes of records including an Index Book; a Test Book; a Transfer, Signature, and Test Book; and a Deposit-Account Ledger. This database is an index to these records providing the given name and surname of the depositor, their account number, account date, and year and place of birth, if given. In addition, each indexed individual is linked to the image on which they appear where more information may be available.

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Not sure re townloand but Glencar has a church, school pub, football team etc. It mountaneous area close to Killorglin. I often pass through it. If u have a map, cross bridge at Killorglin and take first left. Keep straight for 5-6 miles until u come to an area called Glencutane. Here there is a T junction. Keep right. (Left would bring u back towards Kilgobnait,Beaufort,Gap of Dubloe,Killarney). Continue for another 3-4 miles passing Lough Acoose. You will come to another T junc. Turn right and go on for a mile to find church pub shop. Go straight for 'Climbers Inn'. School between 2. Regards Fintan http://www.myirishancetry.com ----- Original Message ---- From: William Romanski <wdromanski@hotmail.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 12 August, 2007 6:32:43 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] What is Glencar? It's been told to me a couple of times that my Sullivans were the Fele Sullivans from Glencar. Seems like it would be easy? Glencar isn't a townland. But it's on the map. It's clearly in Glenbeigh; that's where the church is. * It's not in " General Alphabetical Index to the Townlands and Towns, Parishes, and Baronies of Ireland," 1861. * It's not described in the 1901 or 1911 censuses. So is it like the town of Killorglin...not quite a official designation but a real place? If so what townlands are considered Glencar? If I'm searching parish records, should I be searching Glenbeigh? William D Romanski Always want to hear from Moriartys in Killorglin, Griffins from Glenbeigh and Doonas the world around. _________________________________________________________________ See what you’re getting into…before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507 _________________________________________________________ Nervous about who has your email address? Yahoo! Mail can help you win the war against spam. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/addressguard2.html