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Please keep up the thread. I'm hoping to take a ferry/car trip from Wales to Ireland to visit Dingle and surrounding area this year. My Gt Grandfather Joseph Blake HOLBRY (coastguard, ex-Royal Navy) married Isabella Rose RYAN in Ventry parish, and granny Ada Blanche Ryan HOLBRY was born there 2 Jan 1895. Information on experiences of research facilities in the area would be welcomed. Any comments on roads Rosslare - Dingle and Cork - Dingle would be appreciated, as would any B&B information. Patrick. R. L. Dunbar Organiser, Dunbar Family Society, UK Member, Aberdeen & NE Scotland FHS. Member Guild of One-Name Studies. Email - dunbar@one-name.org Web Page, family history - www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk Web Page, Art - www.debbiedunbar.net

Donna Landing fees make flight to and from Heathrow more expensive than from Stansted. Ryanair undertakes more daily flights to and from Cork than to Kerry. On the plus side Kerry Airport is less than 10 miles from Killarney so you could take a cab. The sooner you book, the cheaper the flights. As has already been pointed out the road from Cork to Killarney (only 55 miles) is very good, and not too busy, and I know you would easily adapt to driving on the other side of the road. Ryanair has a partnership with Hertz - car hire company - and it is possible to hire a car at same time as booking you flight. Having booked your ticket all you have to do is click on "Hertz Car Hire" and fill in your details (your flight details will come up automatically) and car will be waiting for you at Airport. It is worth paying the little extra for full comprehensive car insurance. Ireland's national bus company is "Bus Eireann", see website (buseireann.ie) for moreinformation and timetables. The company runs daily services from Cork City to Killarney andcould be used instead of hiring a car. There is a very good train service (Stansted Express) to and from Stansted Airport from London, Liverpool Street Station - takes about 45 minutes. See website "stanstedexpress.com". The underground tube service also stops at Liverpool Street Station. Sightseeing in London is simple. You can either do it yourself, using the underground tube service (which has a station at or very close to each major tourist attraction) or else take take one of the many tour buses. For example The Big Bus Sighseeing Tour, which runs at regular intervals, will take you all over London, including the Tower of London. This tour allows you to hop off and on at your convenience. If you like a sight you can get off and peruse and then hop on the next bus that comes along. If you would like to see more information on such tours just look up "London City Tours" on the website So little time and so much to see. Enjoy your trip Pat Delaney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Williams" <jill@aijk.org> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net>; "Kerry List" <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > Hi Donna > > I would give the 6.20 a.m. flight a miss as you would need to be at the > airport 2 hours before hand and that would mean getting there before > public > transport starts properly. Do make sure that RyanAir is really more > reasonably priced as they have a tendency to quote flight costs excluding > taxes and checked in luggage costs and add these on at the last minute. > > Do you plan to drive in Ireland? If so the road from Kerry to Cork is now > very good. So it is easy to choose which ever airport has the best > flights > for you. When comparing flights from Heathrow and Stanstead do be aware > that Stanstead is quite far out of London and costs more to get to, whilst > Heathrow is on the underground and so is quicker and costs a lot less. > Also > bear in mind that you could fly over to Ireland with one airline and back > on > another. So one possibility is to do your return flight directly to > Heathrow thus reducing the complications / problems for connections. > > Regards > Jill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> > To: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie>; "Kerry List" > <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:19 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > > >> Hi Fintan, >> My employer has already booked my flight to and from London and I am >> arranging the travel to Ireland. I think I will fly from Stansted on >> Ryanair--it is much more reasonably priced. I have to be back to Heathrow >> for a 3:00PM flight but, as far as I can tell, there is only one flight > back >> to London from Kerry that will work, which is early in the morning. The > hard >> choice is what flight to take to Kerry--there are 2 choices: 6:20 AM or > 3PM. >> So, I could leave immediately following the conference on Saturday and >> not >> do any sightseeing in London, or spend Saturday and part of Sunday in > London >> before heading to Kerry. I've heard that there are some great walking > tours >> of the different neighborhoods, which sounds interesting to me. I'm >> pretty >> sure I would wander aimlessly if left to my own--there are too many >> things >> and too little time! What would you suggest? I think I will contact my > hotel >> and see if I can sign up for one of those bus tours of the city for the > day >> I arrive, so that leaves Saturday afternoon/evening and part of Sunday. >> Best, >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> >> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >> >> >> I'd spend time inLondon in one block rather than flying back and forth >> twice. Most things in London are central so could fit in British Museam, > bus >> trip >> in 1 day or 2 at most. What do u want to see in London? >> >> Regards, >> Fintan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >> To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, 2 September, 2007 4:45:38 PM >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >> >> >> Hi Everyone, >> Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school >> supplies >> have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my elusive >> ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London >> from >> October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have booked a >> flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now have > to >> decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never been to >> either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that will >> get >> me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early > Wednesday >> morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to either place, I'm >> trying to decide how much time to spend in London before heading to > Ireland. >> So, my first question is: what do you recommend? Spending most of my free >> time in Ireland or splitting my time between both places? I'd like to >> take > a >> tour of the city--bus or walking--and at least see the British Museum. >> Is it possible to do t! >> hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not too >> exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on Saturday. > My >> second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to Killarney > and >> see some more of the country, or fly straight into the Kerry Airport? >> >> Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's >> maiden >> name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that might be > my >> g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I don't know >> what possible information might be contained in these records. Would it > list >> other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to find my >> g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I found >> (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): >> >> JN Sullivan, Male >> Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland >> Parents: >> Father: TY. Sullivan >> Mother: Ellen Kelly >> >> Messages: >> Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the > record. >> The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or >> christening event. >> >> Source information: >> Batch No. C700903 >> Date: 1840 >> Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 >> Type: Book >> Printout Call No.: 0883698 >> Type: Film >> >> Batch No.: C700903 >> Dates: 1840-1865 >> Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 >> Type: Film >> Printout Call No.: NONE >> >> Batch No.: C700903 >> Dates: 1865-1875 >> Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 >> Type: Film >> Printout Call No.: NONE >> >> I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to these >> records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it mean > if >> there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly appreciated! > At >> this point, I don't really have any trail to follow once I arrive in >> Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a brother were born > there >> in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know they arrived in >> America >> in 1866. >> >> Thank you for your help! >> >> Donna >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! 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Donna, Do you have Thomas Russell and Nora Sullivan's marriage record of May 1869? If not this could provide the name of Nora Sullivan's mother. Or John Sullivan's naturalization records? Cheryl ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Donna I would give the 6.20 a.m. flight a miss as you would need to be at the airport 2 hours before hand and that would mean getting there before public transport starts properly. Do make sure that RyanAir is really more reasonably priced as they have a tendency to quote flight costs excluding taxes and checked in luggage costs and add these on at the last minute. Do you plan to drive in Ireland? If so the road from Kerry to Cork is now very good. So it is easy to choose which ever airport has the best flights for you. When comparing flights from Heathrow and Stanstead do be aware that Stanstead is quite far out of London and costs more to get to, whilst Heathrow is on the underground and so is quicker and costs a lot less. Also bear in mind that you could fly over to Ireland with one airline and back on another. So one possibility is to do your return flight directly to Heathrow thus reducing the complications / problems for connections. Regards Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> To: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie>; "Kerry List" <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > Hi Fintan, > My employer has already booked my flight to and from London and I am > arranging the travel to Ireland. I think I will fly from Stansted on > Ryanair--it is much more reasonably priced. I have to be back to Heathrow > for a 3:00PM flight but, as far as I can tell, there is only one flight back > to London from Kerry that will work, which is early in the morning. The hard > choice is what flight to take to Kerry--there are 2 choices: 6:20 AM or 3PM. > So, I could leave immediately following the conference on Saturday and not > do any sightseeing in London, or spend Saturday and part of Sunday in London > before heading to Kerry. I've heard that there are some great walking tours > of the different neighborhoods, which sounds interesting to me. I'm pretty > sure I would wander aimlessly if left to my own--there are too many things > and too little time! What would you suggest? I think I will contact my hotel > and see if I can sign up for one of those bus tours of the city for the day > I arrive, so that leaves Saturday afternoon/evening and part of Sunday. > Best, > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> > To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:22 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > > > I'd spend time inLondon in one block rather than flying back and forth > twice. Most things in London are central so could fit in British Museam, bus > trip > in 1 day or 2 at most. What do u want to see in London? > > Regards, > Fintan > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> > To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, 2 September, 2007 4:45:38 PM > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > > > Hi Everyone, > Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school supplies > have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my elusive > ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London from > October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have booked a > flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now have to > decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never been to > either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that will get > me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early Wednesday > morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to either place, I'm > trying to decide how much time to spend in London before heading to Ireland. > So, my first question is: what do you recommend? Spending most of my free > time in Ireland or splitting my time between both places? I'd like to take a > tour of the city--bus or walking--and at least see the British Museum. > Is it possible to do t! > hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not too > exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on Saturday. My > second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to Killarney and > see some more of the country, or fly straight into the Kerry Airport? > > Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's maiden > name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that might be my > g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I don't know > what possible information might be contained in these records. Would it list > other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to find my > g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I found > (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): > > JN Sullivan, Male > Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland > Parents: > Father: TY. Sullivan > Mother: Ellen Kelly > > Messages: > Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the record. > The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or > christening event. > > Source information: > Batch No. C700903 > Date: 1840 > Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 > Type: Book > Printout Call No.: 0883698 > Type: Film > > Batch No.: C700903 > Dates: 1840-1865 > Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 > Type: Film > Printout Call No.: NONE > > Batch No.: C700903 > Dates: 1865-1875 > Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 > Type: Film > Printout Call No.: NONE > > I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to these > records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it mean if > there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly appreciated! At > this point, I don't really have any trail to follow once I arrive in > Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a brother were born there > in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know they arrived in America > in 1866. > > Thank you for your help! > > Donna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 02/09/2007 16:32 >

What Army? Time for bed now. Love, Jack Sweeney, in coolish and very dark Palmer, Pennsylvania

Good evening I have been informed that records to do with Kanturk come under Kerry hence my enquiry. I have the 1901 census which shows a Winkle family living at Killeenleigh. I have now been told there was another family living at Percival Street Kanturk in 1901 any information on this other Winkle family would be very much appreciated. I am a new lister and this is my first posting. Thank you Mick

Aaaah, she sounds extremely qualified. ----- Original Message ----- From: TETLEYaj@aol.com To: donnarussell5@comcast.net Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney In a message dated 04/09/2007 01:34:10 GMT Daylight Time, donnarussell5@comcast.net writes: I wonder what she had to do to qualify! 30 years in the Army... Monica

Donna Your walking tour could include the tube. You could take the tube to the London Tower, and see the first ever female quard or Beefeater. The tube will also take you to picadilly Square, and if you check the map inside the Underground, you may find other places of interest to pop into. It is well marked. Liz ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Liz, I just read about her! I think I will get a tube pass for the weekend and go there. The first woman since 1485, I think. I wonder what she had to do to qualify! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Lizziems@aol.com To: donnarussell5@comcast.net ; IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney Donna Your walking tour could include the tube. You could take the tube to the London Tower, and see the first ever female quard or Beefeater. The tube will also take you to picadilly Square, and if you check the map inside the Underground, you may find other places of interest to pop into. It is well marked. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

Hi Mary, I am at a disadvantage because the only two children I know of, I can't find together on any records. Plus, I still don't have a maiden name for their mother. So, now I am doubly disadvantaged if they don't even list all of the kids! Just about any Sullivan family could be mine! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Simpson" <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > Donna > Be careful of discounting families when some of the children don't show up > on Baptismal registers - in my grandfather's family in Cork, certainly > one child was not on the parish register and there was likely to have been > another who died in infancy. We were told by the Parish Priest that there > could have been a good few reasons for these discrepancies, that the baby > was sickly and had been christened hastily at home, for instance, and then > it was forgotten to enter on the parish registers later. So be cautious!! > Mary > > On 2 Sep 2007, at 21:12, Donna Russell wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> Thank you! This tells me that this is the wrong family since Hanora >> doesn't >> show up. She was born in 1847. >> Back to the hunt.... >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Moriarty" <B.Moriarty@xtra.co.nz> >> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >> >> >>> Donna, >>> If you do a search on the IGI using Timothy Sullivan and Ellen Kelly as >>> parents, quoting batch number c700903 as per your info, you find the >>> following siblings: >>> 1. Julia Sullivan christened 1 Aug 1843 >>> 2. Edm. (Edmond?) Sullivan christened 9 August 1846 >>> 3. Jn (John) Sullivan christened 25 August 1849 >>> 4. Ellen Sullivan christened 29 July 1854. >>> >>> All born at the same time of year????? >>> >>> Cheers from NZ >>> >>> Brian Moriarty >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >>> To: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com>; "Kerry List" >>> <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>> >>> >>>> Hi Marie, >>>> Thank you, this is helpful. Do you know if I need to know the name of >>>> the >>>> Parish? I only know that he was born in Killarney and he was >>>> Catholic--does >>>> that help narrow down where I might find the records? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Donna >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com> >>>> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net>; "Kerry List" >>>> <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:32 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> >>>>> You have not given yourself enough time for any really good research, >>>>> but >>>>> my recommendation is that you fly in Kerry Airport, go to the Catholic >>>>> Church OFFICE and ask them if the holder of the chuch records could >>>>> help >>>>> (usually the deacon)locate any information for you. He keeps the >>>>> records >>>>> in the vestry behind the altar. DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU ARE DOING >>>>> GENEALOGY WORK! It turns them all off on Americans and they clam up on >>>>> you. We were fortunate that my husband was applying for his Irish >>>>> Citizenship and needed the records of his grandparents and great >>>>> grandparents. >>>>> >>>>> BE AWARE! Nobody in Ireland wants you to see the church records >>>>> without >>>>> "crossing their palms with GOLD"! When my husband and I went they >>>>> would >>>>> only pull out the printouts that the Mormons had done and I had >>>>> already >>>>> gotten all the information from the LDS records before going. >>>>> >>>>> GOOD LUCK! >>>>> >>>>> Marie >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >>>>>> Sent: Sep 2, 2007 11:45 AM >>>>>> To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school >>>>>> supplies >>>>>> have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my >>>>>> elusive >>>>>> ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London >>>>>> from >>>>>> October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have >>>>>> booked a >>>>>> flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now >>>>>> have >>>>>> to decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never >>>>>> been >>>>>> to either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that >>>>>> will >>>>>> get me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early >>>>>> Wednesday morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to >>>>>> either >>>>>> place, I'm trying to decide how much time to spend in London before >>>>>> heading to Ireland. So, my first question is: what do you recommend? >>>>>> Spending most of my free time in Ireland or splitting my time between >>>>>> both >>>>>> places? I'd like to take a tour of the city--bus or walking--and at >>>>>> least >>>>>> see the British Museum. Is it possible to do t! >>>>>> hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not >>>>>> too >>>>>> exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on >>>>>> Saturday. >>>>>> My second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to >>>>>> Killarney and see some more of the country, or fly straight into the >>>>>> Kerry Airport? >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's >>>>>> maiden >>>>>> name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that >>>>>> might >>>>>> be >>>>>> my g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> know what possible information might be contained in these records. >>>>>> Would >>>>>> it list other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to >>>>>> find >>>>>> my g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I >>>>>> found (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): >>>>>> >>>>>> JN Sullivan, Male >>>>>> Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland >>>>>> Parents: >>>>>> Father: TY. Sullivan >>>>>> Mother: Ellen Kelly >>>>>> >>>>>> Messages: >>>>>> Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the >>>>>> record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by >>>>>> the >>>>>> birth or christening event. >>>>>> >>>>>> Source information: >>>>>> Batch No. C700903 >>>>>> Date: 1840 >>>>>> Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Book >>>>>> Printout Call No.: 0883698 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> >>>>>> Batch No.: C700903 >>>>>> Dates: 1840-1865 >>>>>> Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> Printout Call No.: NONE >>>>>> >>>>>> Batch No.: C700903 >>>>>> Dates: 1865-1875 >>>>>> Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> Printout Call No.: NONE >>>>>> >>>>>> I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to >>>>>> these >>>>>> records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it >>>>>> mean >>>>>> if there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly >>>>>> appreciated! At this point, I don't really have any trail to follow >>>>>> once >>>>>> I >>>>>> arrive in Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a >>>>>> brother >>>>>> were born there in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know >>>>>> they >>>>>> arrived in America in 1866. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Hi Trish, I am flying to London on business so they are paying the roundtrip airfare to and from London. I looked into flights to Ireland from Heathrow but they are very expensive compared to the flight from Stansted. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Trish Jensen To: Donna Russell Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney Can I ask why you are flying into Stansted and not Heathrow, would it not be better to alter your flight from home for the return trip to fly out from Ireland. Trish I found a bus (the National Express) that runs from Stansted to Heathrow every hour and takes 90 minutes. If I take the Ryanair flight from Kerry, it gets me to Stansted at 9:40 in the morning, which should easily get me to Heathrow by 1PM--unless the flight is delayed or cancelled. Do you know if that is likely? Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >choice is what flight to take to Kerry--there are 2 choices: 6:20 AM or >3PM. Are u planning to fly from Kerry to London and pick up return to US on same day? Only word of warning is transfer from Stansted to Heathrow. If u are doing it by train it could take a few hours. If ur flying from heathrow at 3pm you would prob need to be there around 1pm. You'd probably need to be landing at Stansted at 10am at latest as 30 mins luggage pick up. I hr+ on Stansted Express and 1 hr Tube train from Liverpool St to Heathrow. U prob could get a taxi from Stansted to Heathrow but would be very expensive. Check out www.aerlingus.com for flights from Shannon->Heathrow. Only downside is 2hr drive from Killarney to Shannon. >So, I could leave immediately following the conference on Saturday and not >do any sightseeing in London, or spend Saturday and part of Sunday in >London >before heading to Kerry. I've heard that there are some great walking tours >of the different neighborhoods, which sounds interesting to me. I'm pretty >sure I would wander aimlessly if left to my own--there are too many things >and too little time! What would you suggest? I think I will contact my >hotel >and see if I can sign up for one of those bus tours of the city for the day >I arrive, so that leaves Saturday afternoon/evening and part of Sunday. 1 good day should so London. A bus tour and 2 or 3 places to see. Get 1 day Tube(underground) travelpass. Not sure where u are staying but u may only need a Zone 1 pass (central london). Most things to see in London are all around same general area. Ryanair prices also fluctuate alot depending on bookings etc. Fintan ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.0/980 - Release Date: 30/08/2007 6:05 PM

Hello Donna, You can check the London Walks Tours at www.walks.com. They are well worthwhile. The guides are very knowledgeable and enthusiastic. Many of them are actors who are supplementing their income. I've gone on many of their tours and never been disappointed. Mary Kay

We are planning our first trip to Ireland in April 2008 and have been looking at the MyguideIreland website (formerly known as 12 Travel.com). Has anyone used their services for a trip to Ireland and if so I am looking for feedback.

Hi All, I was combing through my mountain of papers on the Sullivans again and discovered a possible clue. The name Bridget Coffey written next to Timothy Sullivan on a piece of paper I got from a cousin. She might be Hanora and John's mother. But when I do a search in ancestry.com and familysearch.org I can't find any matches. She may have been from Cork (family lore) but she married Timothy Sullivan and had my grandmother (Hanora) 03 NOV 1847 and my g-uncle (John) 24 JUN 1849 in Killarney. They were Catholic. I don't know if there were other children. Any ideas on where/how to start looking? Thanks, Donna

I found a bus (the National Express) that runs from Stansted to Heathrow every hour and takes 90 minutes. If I take the Ryanair flight from Kerry, it gets me to Stansted at 9:40 in the morning, which should easily get me to Heathrow by 1PM--unless the flight is delayed or cancelled. Do you know if that is likely? Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >choice is what flight to take to Kerry--there are 2 choices: 6:20 AM or >3PM. Are u planning to fly from Kerry to London and pick up return to US on same day? Only word of warning is transfer from Stansted to Heathrow. If u are doing it by train it could take a few hours. If ur flying from heathrow at 3pm you would prob need to be there around 1pm. You'd probably need to be landing at Stansted at 10am at latest as 30 mins luggage pick up. I hr+ on Stansted Express and 1 hr Tube train from Liverpool St to Heathrow. U prob could get a taxi from Stansted to Heathrow but would be very expensive. Check out www.aerlingus.com for flights from Shannon->Heathrow. Only downside is 2hr drive from Killarney to Shannon. >So, I could leave immediately following the conference on Saturday and not >do any sightseeing in London, or spend Saturday and part of Sunday in >London >before heading to Kerry. I've heard that there are some great walking tours >of the different neighborhoods, which sounds interesting to me. I'm pretty >sure I would wander aimlessly if left to my own--there are too many things >and too little time! What would you suggest? I think I will contact my >hotel >and see if I can sign up for one of those bus tours of the city for the day >I arrive, so that leaves Saturday afternoon/evening and part of Sunday. 1 good day should so London. A bus tour and 2 or 3 places to see. Get 1 day Tube(underground) travelpass. Not sure where u are staying but u may only need a Zone 1 pass (central london). Most things to see in London are all around same general area. Ryanair prices also fluctuate alot depending on bookings etc. Fintan ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

Hi Fintan, My employer has already booked my flight to and from London and I am arranging the travel to Ireland. I think I will fly from Stansted on Ryanair--it is much more reasonably priced. I have to be back to Heathrow for a 3:00PM flight but, as far as I can tell, there is only one flight back to London from Kerry that will work, which is early in the morning. The hard choice is what flight to take to Kerry--there are 2 choices: 6:20 AM or 3PM. So, I could leave immediately following the conference on Saturday and not do any sightseeing in London, or spend Saturday and part of Sunday in London before heading to Kerry. I've heard that there are some great walking tours of the different neighborhoods, which sounds interesting to me. I'm pretty sure I would wander aimlessly if left to my own--there are too many things and too little time! What would you suggest? I think I will contact my hotel and see if I can sign up for one of those bus tours of the city for the day I arrive, so that leaves Saturday afternoon/evening and part of Sunday. Best, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney I'd spend time inLondon in one block rather than flying back and forth twice. Most things in London are central so could fit in British Museam, bus trip in 1 day or 2 at most. What do u want to see in London? Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 2 September, 2007 4:45:38 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney Hi Everyone, Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school supplies have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my elusive ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London from October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have booked a flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now have to decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never been to either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that will get me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early Wednesday morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to either place, I'm trying to decide how much time to spend in London before heading to Ireland. So, my first question is: what do you recommend? Spending most of my free time in Ireland or splitting my time between both places? I'd like to take a tour of the city--bus or walking--and at least see the British Museum. Is it possible to do t! hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not too exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on Saturday. My second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to Killarney and see some more of the country, or fly straight into the Kerry Airport? Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's maiden name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that might be my g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I don't know what possible information might be contained in these records. Would it list other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to find my g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I found (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): JN Sullivan, Male Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland Parents: Father: TY. Sullivan Mother: Ellen Kelly Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening event. Source information: Batch No. C700903 Date: 1840 Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 Type: Book Printout Call No.: 0883698 Type: Film Batch No.: C700903 Dates: 1840-1865 Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 Type: Film Printout Call No.: NONE Batch No.: C700903 Dates: 1865-1875 Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 Type: Film Printout Call No.: NONE I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to these records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it mean if there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly appreciated! At this point, I don't really have any trail to follow once I arrive in Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a brother were born there in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know they arrived in America in 1866. Thank you for your help! Donna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

Hi Donna, You have not given yourself enough time for any really good research, but my recommendation is that you fly in Kerry Airport, go to the Catholic Church OFFICE and ask them if the holder of the chuch records could help (usually the deacon)locate any information for you. He keeps the records in the vestry behind the altar. DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU ARE DOING GENEALOGY WORK! It turns them all off on Americans and they clam up on you. We were fortunate that my husband was applying for his Irish Citizenship and needed the records of his grandparents and great grandparents. BE AWARE! Nobody in Ireland wants you to see the church records without "crossing their palms with GOLD"! When my husband and I went they would only pull out the printouts that the Mormons had done and I had already gotten all the information from the LDS records before going. GOOD LUCK! Marie -----Original Message----- >From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >Sent: Sep 2, 2007 11:45 AM >To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > >Hi Everyone, >Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school supplies have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my elusive ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London from October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have booked a flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now have to decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never been to either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that will get me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early Wednesday morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to either place, I'm trying to decide how much time to spend in London before heading to Ireland. So, my first question is: what do you recommend? Spending most of my free time in Ireland or splitting my time between both places? I'd like to take a tour of the city--bus or walking--and at least see the British Museum. Is it possible to do ! t! > hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not too exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on Saturday. My second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to Killarney and see some more of the country, or fly straight into the Kerry Airport? > >Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's maiden name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that might be my g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I don't know what possible information might be contained in these records. Would it list other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to find my g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I found (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): > >JN Sullivan, Male >Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland >Parents: >Father: TY. Sullivan >Mother: Ellen Kelly > >Messages: >Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening event. > >Source information: >Batch No. C700903 >Date: 1840 >Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 >Type: Book >Printout Call No.: 0883698 >Type: Film > >Batch No.: C700903 >Dates: 1840-1865 >Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 >Type: Film >Printout Call No.: NONE > >Batch No.: C700903 >Dates: 1865-1875 >Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 >Type: Film >Printout Call No.: NONE > >I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to these records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it mean if there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly appreciated! At this point, I don't really have any trail to follow once I arrive in Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a brother were born there in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know they arrived in America in 1866. > >Thank you for your help! > >Donna > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I am still trying to track down another clue to my Sullivan's in Killarney. Another possible lead is that my g-grandmother (Nora) and her brother (John) lived next door to another Sullivan family (spelled Sulevan) in Wisconsin within 4 years of arriving in America. They were also named as witnesses to 2 of her children's baptisms. What are the odds that this is a brother? His name is listed as A.S. Sulevan, his wife is Mary and they have children named John, George, and Eugene. They all show up on the 1870 census in Oconto County, Marinette, Wisconsin. The census taker spelled Nora and Thomas's last name wrong so I'm not too worried that Sullivan is spelled differently, though they did spell John Sullivan's name correctly. Another question I have is this: Hanora (Nora)'s first daughter was named after my g-grandfather's twin sister, Lucinda. Their second daughter was named Cora Margaret, and I know Margaret was my g-grandfather's mother's name. Is it at all possible that Cora could be Nora's mom's name? Is it an Irish name? Any thoughts? Thanks! Donna

Hi Brian, Thank you! This tells me that this is the wrong family since Hanora doesn't show up. She was born in 1847. Back to the hunt.... Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Moriarty" <B.Moriarty@xtra.co.nz> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > Donna, > If you do a search on the IGI using Timothy Sullivan and Ellen Kelly as > parents, quoting batch number c700903 as per your info, you find the > following siblings: > 1. Julia Sullivan christened 1 Aug 1843 > 2. Edm. (Edmond?) Sullivan christened 9 August 1846 > 3. Jn (John) Sullivan christened 25 August 1849 > 4. Ellen Sullivan christened 29 July 1854. > > All born at the same time of year????? > > Cheers from NZ > > Brian Moriarty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> > To: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com>; "Kerry List" > <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:37 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > > >> Hi Marie, >> Thank you, this is helpful. Do you know if I need to know the name of the >> Parish? I only know that he was born in Killarney and he was >> Catholic--does >> that help narrow down where I might find the records? >> Thanks, >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com> >> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net>; "Kerry List" >> <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >> >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> You have not given yourself enough time for any really good research, >>> but >>> my recommendation is that you fly in Kerry Airport, go to the Catholic >>> Church OFFICE and ask them if the holder of the chuch records could help >>> (usually the deacon)locate any information for you. He keeps the >>> records >>> in the vestry behind the altar. DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU ARE DOING >>> GENEALOGY WORK! It turns them all off on Americans and they clam up on >>> you. We were fortunate that my husband was applying for his Irish >>> Citizenship and needed the records of his grandparents and great >>> grandparents. >>> >>> BE AWARE! Nobody in Ireland wants you to see the church records without >>> "crossing their palms with GOLD"! When my husband and I went they would >>> only pull out the printouts that the Mormons had done and I had already >>> gotten all the information from the LDS records before going. >>> >>> GOOD LUCK! >>> >>> Marie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>>From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >>>>Sent: Sep 2, 2007 11:45 AM >>>>To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>>Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>>> >>>>Hi Everyone, >>>>Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school >>>>supplies >>>>have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my elusive >>>>ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London >>>>from >>>>October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have booked a >>>>flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now have >>>>to decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never been >>>>to either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that >>>>will >>>>get me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early >>>>Wednesday morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to either >>>>place, I'm trying to decide how much time to spend in London before >>>>heading to Ireland. So, my first question is: what do you recommend? >>>>Spending most of my free time in Ireland or splitting my time between >>>>both >>>>places? I'd like to take a tour of the city--bus or walking--and at >>>>least >>>>see the British Museum. Is it possible to do t! >>>> hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not >>>> too >>>> exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on >>>> Saturday. >>>> My second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to >>>> Killarney and see some more of the country, or fly straight into the >>>> Kerry Airport? >>>> >>>>Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's >>>>maiden >>>>name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that might >>>>be >>>>my g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I don't >>>>know what possible information might be contained in these records. >>>>Would >>>>it list other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to >>>>find >>>>my g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I >>>>found (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): >>>> >>>>JN Sullivan, Male >>>>Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland >>>>Parents: >>>>Father: TY. Sullivan >>>>Mother: Ellen Kelly >>>> >>>>Messages: >>>>Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the >>>>record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the >>>>birth or christening event. >>>> >>>>Source information: >>>>Batch No. C700903 >>>>Date: 1840 >>>>Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 >>>>Type: Book >>>>Printout Call No.: 0883698 >>>>Type: Film >>>> >>>>Batch No.: C700903 >>>>Dates: 1840-1865 >>>>Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>Type: Film >>>>Printout Call No.: NONE >>>> >>>>Batch No.: C700903 >>>>Dates: 1865-1875 >>>>Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>Type: Film >>>>Printout Call No.: NONE >>>> >>>>I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to >>>>these >>>>records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it mean >>>>if there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly >>>>appreciated! At this point, I don't really have any trail to follow once >>>>I >>>>arrive in Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a brother >>>>were born there in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know they >>>>arrived in America in 1866. >>>> >>>>Thank you for your help! >>>> >>>>Donna >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >