Hi List I found this on the New Zealand list as some of you are searching for Boyle's Trish HBH 1892 August 31 Earl of Glasgow Page 3 Home papers to hand by last mail have several notices of our new Governor, the Earl of Glasgow, from which we learn that he forms an interesting link with the days of Queen Anne. In his earlier years there was little prospect of his ever attaining the title. Born in 1833, his father was merely a very distant cousin of the then Earl-a young man who had sons of his own. One of these sons became fifth Earl, and dying childless was succeeded by his half brother, the sixth Earl, who had only two daughters, and so the heir to the title had to be sought for in the time represented by our governor. The ancestor from whom the present Earl derives his title was his great grandfather, the second Earl, who died in 1740. His younger son, the Hon. Patrick BOYLE, had a son David BOYLE, M.P. who son married Mary, daughter of Sir Robert ELPHINSTONE, and became in 1833 father of the present Earl, Governor of New Zealand. O'Connors and Teahans from Ballfinnane and Currow,son Maurice went to New Zealand also Cournane and Bowler from Cahersiveen ,daughter Mary Frances married Maurice in NZ 1881

If this is of interest to any Talbot rearchers it was in the Sydney paper a month or so ago Trish JACK and ROMA TALBOT Seeking contact on behalf of Shirley Yauk [nee Foster} the family of Jack and Roma Talbot and their three children .John ,Susan and Jillian.They would be in their fifties /sixties. Shirley lives in Colorado and John would remember her as Shirley Foster.from California. Shirleys grandfather was raised in Sydney, the son of a brewer. He travelled to the US to study theology and eventually a university and seminary was named after him. Talbot Theological Seminary. Please contact Yvonne at 0404 043 800 or talbottmotorv8@optusnet.com.au. O'Connors and Teahans from Ballfinnane and Currow,son Maurice went to New Zealand also Cournane and Bowler from Cahersiveen ,daughter Mary Frances married Maurice in NZ 1881

My search is for Mary Frances Cournane of Cahersiveen . I have found her birth there 20 1 1858 from Father Mangan of Cahersiveen. Her parents were John Cournane and Mary Bowler of Cahersiveen. Father Mangan could not find their marrriage . While looking at the Kerry web site I saw where some one else had been searching Bowlers in the same town. her name is Debbie Banko but I am unable to contact her from the email address she lodged at the time of putting this entery on Marys web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/index.html Would any of the list know of this Debbie Benko ?? Trish in Sydney O'Connors and Teahans from Ballfinnane and Currow,son Maurice went to New Zealand also Cournane and Bowler from Cahersiveen ,daughter Mary Frances married Maurice in NZ 1881

Goodmorning John (it's morning over here, not sure where you are) Oh how I wish this were my Edward Kelly. He came to the USA abt 1838 - 1845. It could be possible this is a relation and I will do some research on it. Thank you so much for your response and I will keep my fingers crossed! Sincerely, GiGi John Steitz <johnst@luckbros.com> wrote: Gigi- Your Edward KELLY caught my eye there. My BUCKLEY family was sharing a house with an Edward & Margaret KELLEY in 1861 in Merthyr Tydfil Wales at 4 New Foundland St. The birth year doesn't match as this one has a birth year circa 1837 but you may want to have a look. It is a reach but you can decide that. John -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan and GiGi Brakeville Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:19 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] 1838 -1843 Greetings to everyone! I have the whole house almost unpacked and have located most of my Ireland genealogy. I have an interesting question which may not have an answer. Thomas Doyle was convicted in Dublin of stealing a tub and sent to Australia in 1838. Anne Kelly married him over in Australia in 1843. This would mean that something happened in my Kelly line between those years as my ggg grandfather, Edward Kelly may have come to the States at that time. Anne would have been abt 18 and I do not know who would have traveled with her over to Australia. When did the potatoe famine start? Was there something else that was going on as well? Patrick Kelly and Catherine Shea Kelly disappeared - and I cannot find them at all. Their children: Catherine Kelly - no records of her b. abt 1817 Edward Kelly - b. abt 1823 - I have records on him Anne Kelly (Kerry County) provided me w/Baptism info she was actually born in 1820 and not 1830 as some of her descedants claim. It is quite a mystery and theories are most welcome! Have a great day! GiGi Chesapeake, VA "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

Greetings to everyone! I have the whole house almost unpacked and have located most of my Ireland genealogy. I have an interesting question which may not have an answer. Thomas Doyle was convicted in Dublin of stealing a tub and sent to Australia in 1838. Anne Kelly married him over in Australia in 1843. This would mean that something happened in my Kelly line between those years as my ggg grandfather, Edward Kelly may have come to the States at that time. Anne would have been abt 18 and I do not know who would have traveled with her over to Australia. When did the potatoe famine start? Was there something else that was going on as well? Patrick Kelly and Catherine Shea Kelly disappeared - and I cannot find them at all. Their children: Catherine Kelly - no records of her b. abt 1817 Edward Kelly - b. abt 1823 - I have records on him Anne Kelly (Kerry County) provided me w/Baptism info she was actually born in 1820 and not 1830 as some of her descedants claim. It is quite a mystery and theories are most welcome! Have a great day! GiGi Chesapeake, VA "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

Re: New email address of: gandmwenzel@aol.com Who does this belong to? Marge in Southern California </HTML>

I think that is a very good idea--I'm calling tomorrow! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rusk" <jgrnlr@cableone.net> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: RE: [IRL-KERRY] Russell/Sullivan >I would pick up the phone and call that church where he attended for 30 > years. > > JGR > > ---word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message >

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Hi. Lots of Dowling families around Kerry. In 1800 registrars taking records would have often spelt names phonetically so Dooling Dowling could have been same. http://www.dowlingfamily.info/meaning.htm seems to indicate that names have same origin. Have often seen radio personaility Donncha O'Dulaing surname spelt Dooling http://www.rte.ie/radio1/failteisteach/ Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Patricia McMahon <mpatsymac@hotmail.com> To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 5 September, 2007 10:51:13 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] DOOLING DOOLAN hi i am looking for anything on a blake dooling born 1827 in castlesiland kerry he married ellen divaine in engalnd his father was patrick dooling and mother mary fitzgerald he was a summon server and ellens father was a clerk to the chaple i dont think there parents came to london i dont know anymor about them in kerry but blakes name change here he became dowling and then we became doolans if anyone could help i dont know how far recorlds go back thank you patricia doolan _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Nervous about who has your email address? Yahoo! Mail can help you win the war against spam. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/addressguard2.html

hi i am looking for anything on a blake dooling born 1827 in castlesiland kerry he married ellen divaine in engalnd his father was patrick dooling and mother mary fitzgerald he was a summon server and ellens father was a clerk to the chaple i dont think there parents came to london i dont know anymor about them in kerry but blakes name change here he became dowling and then we became doolans if anyone could help i dont know how far recorlds go back thank you patricia doolan _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

Hello list- I am writing to introduce a new project concerning the Irish in Wales. Through our respective research, fellow researcher John Steitz and I realized how little is known about the Irish settlement in Wales. We decided that if we were able to combine our information, we would be better able to pinpoint settlement and migration patterns. By combining information about our ancestors, we increase the chances of finding out more about our own. One of the ways in which we can combine information is through studying where in Wales our ancestors settled – I may not know where in Co. Kerry my great-great grandfather was born, but if I study the origins of his neighbors, I have a better chance of figuring out from where he may have been. Since so many of the Irish in Wales were from Munster Province, and since many of them went on to Pennsylvania, we have dubbed our project the MUNWAPA (Munster to Wales to Pennsylvania) Project. We have a site dedicated to this concept – it can be found at www.MUNWAPA.moonfruit.com. Although John and I have never met, we share a common bond in our ancestor’s past – they left Ireland at around the same time, and settled in Wales around the same time. Within 10 years of one another, they left Wales for Pittsburgh. Although this migration has not been heavily studied, we are hoping that by sharing all of respective ancestors’ stories, we can fill in the blanks and learn more about our ancestors’ lives. If your ancestors made a similar journey to Wales, we hope that you will take the time to visit the website and help us with our project. This is a free site. We just ask for a bit of honest participation in return. Thank you. Amanda & John

Hi all As part of my ongoing research, I've compiled some further small spreadsheets showing transcriptions from the indices at the GRO in Dublin. They can be viewed here: Stack Births, Tralee 1913-1922 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/FILE/0004page.html Stack Deaths, Tralee 1924-1943 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/FILE/0005page.html Stack Deaths, Deaths 1968-1972 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/FILE/0006page.html If anybody would like me to send them the original MS Excel files, just drop me a note. Cheers Neil

Hi Donna and list, This URL gives some guidance on researching matters in the Green Bay Diocese. Marinette is located in that Diocese and is not close to Milwaukee (St. John's cathedral) It is located on the Wisconsin/Michigan border and has a "twin" city of Menominee, Michigan. Hope this is of some help to you. http://www.gbdioc.org/pg/resourcesArchives.tpl Regards, Trish Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> wrote: They were in Marinette in the 1870 census and indicated they had just married that May. I found their children's baptism records at Holy Family Parish in Marinette and they told me about the traveling priests and said there wasn't a Catholic church in WI in 1870. Do you know if St. John's is close to Marinette? Maybe there is still hope of finding a marriage record. Thanks! Donna Trish dtandrae@sbcglobal.net Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.

Rita, have you tried the FamilySearch.org website? I looked up the Winkle marriage and found a Henry Winkle married to a Mary McCarthy on Feb. 9, 1828. The record is from Killarney, marriage in the Roman Catholic Church. I did the search in the International Genealogical Index, you can try it here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true ~Patsy~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <ritawinkle@cwctv.net> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:41 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] WINKLE MARIAGE > Good morning Iam seeking a marriage for HENRY WINKLE about 1828 I believe > the area is West Ballagh. WINKLE is an unusual name and any information > on this name however small would be very much appreciated Michael > > > >

Hi, I live in Kinvara, Co. Galway although I'm originally from Kerry. Families have name here but prob no connection with Kerry or Cork. Winkles pub closed a year or so ago. Well know for traditional music and dancing. Do some work cleaning abandoned graveyard in villiage at weekends. At least 1 Winkle grave there. If u go to http://www.eircomphonebook.ie/ and key in Winkle Location: Kerry there are none. Also none in Clare or Limerick. 1 in Galway and 7 in Cork. Alot of people are ex directory now so phone book dosent prove anything except that name seems most common in Cork. Regards, Fintan http://www.myirishancestry.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "ritawinkle@cwctv.net" <ritawinkle@cwctv.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 5 September, 2007 7:41:06 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] WINKLE MARIAGE Good morning Iam seeking a marriage for HENRY WINKLE about 1828 I believe the area is West Ballagh. WINKLE is an unusual name and any information on this name however small would be very much appreciated Michael ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

Good morning Iam seeking a marriage for HENRY WINKLE about 1828 I believe the area is West Ballagh. WINKLE is an unusual name and any information on this name however small would be very much appreciated Michael

They were in Marinette in the 1870 census and indicated they had just married that May. I found their children's baptism records at Holy Family Parish in Marinette and they told me about the traveling priests and said there wasn't a Catholic church in WI in 1870. Do you know if St. John's is close to Marinette? Maybe there is still hope of finding a marriage record. Thanks! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Trish and Dan Andrae To: Donna Russell ; CLabre1068@aol.com ; Kerry List Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Russell/Sullivan I don't know where in Wisconsin you're referring to, but there certainly were Catholic Churches in WI long before 1870. The cathedral of St. John in Milwaukee was begun in 1847. Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Cheryl, I've looked everywhere for it but no success. There wasn't a Catholic church in Wisconsin in 1870 and the church says they could've been married by a traveling priest. I also checked with the state but they didn't have anything on file for them. I have John's certificate of naturalization and have worked with WI to find the original forms he filed, but again, to no avail. I just emailed the church he went to for the last 30 years before he died and asked if they have any information on him--even the parish where he was baptized would be helpful. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Russell/Sullivan > Donna, > Do you have Thomas Russell and Nora Sullivan's marriage record of May > 1869? > If not this could provide the name of Nora Sullivan's mother. Or John > Sullivan's naturalization records? > Cheryl > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Trish dtandrae@sbcglobal.net Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.

I don't know where in Wisconsin you're referring to, but there certainly were Catholic Churches in WI long before 1870. The cathedral of St. John in Milwaukee was begun in 1847. Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Cheryl, I've looked everywhere for it but no success. There wasn't a Catholic church in Wisconsin in 1870 and the church says they could've been married by a traveling priest. I also checked with the state but they didn't have anything on file for them. I have John's certificate of naturalization and have worked with WI to find the original forms he filed, but again, to no avail. I just emailed the church he went to for the last 30 years before he died and asked if they have any information on him--even the parish where he was baptized would be helpful. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Russell/Sullivan > Donna, > Do you have Thomas Russell and Nora Sullivan's marriage record of May > 1869? > If not this could provide the name of Nora Sullivan's mother. Or John > Sullivan's naturalization records? > Cheryl > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Trish dtandrae@sbcglobal.net Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.

Hi Cheryl, I've looked everywhere for it but no success. There wasn't a Catholic church in Wisconsin in 1870 and the church says they could've been married by a traveling priest. I also checked with the state but they didn't have anything on file for them. I have John's certificate of naturalization and have worked with WI to find the original forms he filed, but again, to no avail. I just emailed the church he went to for the last 30 years before he died and asked if they have any information on him--even the parish where he was baptized would be helpful. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <CLabre1068@aol.com> To: <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Russell/Sullivan > Donna, > Do you have Thomas Russell and Nora Sullivan's marriage record of May > 1869? > If not this could provide the name of Nora Sullivan's mother. Or John > Sullivan's naturalization records? > Cheryl > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message