Hi Fran, You're welcome. I do not know the precise answer to your question - maybe someone else on the list does - But I will suggest this - to whom did you make the initial request? Was it to the church who then gave the work to the sacristan whom you heard from directly? If so, I would think that the thank you money should go to the church - with a special notation to the sacristan. If the situation were reversed, and you directly contacted the sacristan, then I would say the thank you should go directly to the sacristan. I'd be interested to hear what others have to say. Best Regards, A -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran Weeks Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:48 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Send check to sacristan or to church? Thanks, Amanda, for the information about the rate of exchange, but what about this? When requesting research information from the sacristan of a church, should one's check be made out to the church or the sacristan who is doing all the work? Could any one advise what is the correct or politic way to go in order to get results? Thanks. Fran ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Amanda, for the information about the rate of exchange, but what about this? When requesting research information from the sacristan of a church, should one's check be made out to the church or the sacristan who is doing all the work? Could any one advise what is the correct or politic way to go in order to get results? Thanks. Fran

Oops, I meant to say it would be 34.68 EURO if you wanted to send $25 If you want to send 25 EURO, it would be $18.02 -A -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran Weeks Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:11 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] dollars value to euros If I wish to send money to someone in Ireland as a thank you gift, can I write an American check for dollars, and if so - can someone tell me, please, if I wanted to give them the equal of twenty-five dollars, for what amount would I have to write the check? Boy, do I feel like a dummy! Thank you. Fran Weeks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Exchange rate is 1.3871 So it would be $34.68 Are you sending to an individual or an institution? If an individual, might be better to send in Euros but they do have banks there ;) so it shouldn't be problem ;) If an institution, should not be a problem to send American dollars. -A -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran Weeks Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:11 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] dollars value to euros If I wish to send money to someone in Ireland as a thank you gift, can I write an American check for dollars, and if so - can someone tell me, please, if I wanted to give them the equal of twenty-five dollars, for what amount would I have to write the check? Boy, do I feel like a dummy! Thank you. Fran Weeks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I wish to send money to someone in Ireland as a thank you gift, can I write an American check for dollars, and if so - can someone tell me, please, if I wanted to give them the equal of twenty-five dollars, for what amount would I have to write the check? Boy, do I feel like a dummy! Thank you. Fran Weeks

GDAY There:) I have some data i collected from Castle Island Co Kerry thru our State Genie Society butttt Unfortunately when i photocopied some of it, the side of the pages with actual dates were cut off Buttttt i have found a Daniel Oconnor in 1826 in Co Kerry Castle Island a baptism with parents JAMES O CONNOR and HANNAH SULLIVAN Witnesses at Birth were...DANIEL CONNOR and MARGARET SULLIVAN Hope this helps Regards Cathy Also for those researching in Co kerry another Great book is Co Kerry Past and present by Jeremiah King --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now.

Hi Everyone, I'm hopeful that I may have found my g-g-grandparents in Kilcummin RC Parish: Hannah Coffee and Timothy Sullivan, married Feb 1823. Do you think they would show up in the Griffiths Valuations, and if so, in what civil parish would it be? Also, might they show up in the Casey Collection? I still need to cross-check their children to make sure. I'm looking for a John Sullivan, b. 24 JUN 1849 and Hanora Sullivan, b. 03 NOV 1847. I have made my reservations and will fly in from Stanton to Kerry. I'll have to shlep from Knightsbridge to Stanton and from Stanton to Heathrow on my return, but it gave me a better choice of flight times. I arrive at 4:30 PM and got myself a VW Fox with manual transmission. So, I'm wondering if it is dark by 4:30 in late October. Pretty sure it is, so I'm hoping it is an easy drive to Killarney! I still have to book a room. I was trying to track down O'Sullivan's B & B that was recommended, but was unable to find it. I will have Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday. It is my first ever trip to Ireland. I've had lots of recommendations for what I should see and do, but not enough time to do it all. What would you all recommend I could/should do in the 2 days I have? Here is what I have on my to-do list: Isle of Innisfallen Ring of Dingle tour Ring of Kerry tour Caherciveen ruins & Fertha bar and pub St. Mary's Church in Killarney Irish stew in the pub under Lord Kenmare's Restaurant in College Street, Killarney Killarney library & Tralee library Do I need to make reservations ahead of time for anything? Thanks again for all of your help! Donna

Why not build a bat house and place it in a tree not too far from the house. That would eliminate the droppings on the deck and still have the bat close by to rid the area of bugs. Bats are nice to have around. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello Joseph, I had a look on the immigration list for June 1840 and found Martin Gleason, seems to be their son. On the index it states he is 7 years old but further examination shows an age of 7 months. Are your William & Anne Gleason living in Flushing NY in 1850 with son Martin, and daughters Mary, Sarah, & Johannah? Maybe you can find a birth certificate for Martin b. 1839 if this is the correct family. Cheryl ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Dear listers I am aware that this not genealogical in fact but maybe in nature I submit the following, needing wisdom in the matter for 'herself's' peace of mind. We have for the last few weeks noticed certain animal droppings in roughly the same spot on the deck floor of our open but covered back porch. The droppings are like sprinkles in size except they are all black and one to three in number daily. We swept the porch . next day same thing. We sprayed disinfectant on the wood . next day same thing. We put out moth balls .. still the dropping persisted. 'Herself' suggested we put out the sticker paper used to catch mice .. no results, until the second day there were droppings all over the paper yet the paper was not disturbed. Being the genius that I am I finally realizes the droppings were coming from above the paper. Since the paper is next to the arm of a rocker I thought it must be an animal sitting on the arm of the rocker. That answer did not ring positive so I looked higher. And in the rafters next to the sofit of the house hangs a bat. Bats are highly protected in WV .. So how do I discourage a bat from roosting in my open porch rafters? Any Irish remedy will be appreciated. Stumped by a bat in WV Clifford Smith Researching Conway, Hasting, Collins, and Akey in Clare, Kerry and Antrim

I am trying to verify that William Gleason born abt 1812 and his wife Ann emigrated from County Kerry and arrived in New York aboard the ship Franconia on 10 June 1840.My biggest headache with William is I'm not convinced he came from Kerry.A placename on his Civil War discharge papers indicates that he was fron Killelane Ireland.I am not 100% positive of this as this placename was written in script and the most likely match was Killelane which is a placename in Dingle.I would appreciate it if anyone has any imformation regarding this individual. Thank You; Joseph Gleason

I'm trying to find contact information for Rosemary MacGillycuddy who wrote the book: MacGillycuddy, Rosemary Brownlow. A short history of the Clan McGillycuddy / Blackrock, Co. Dublin : MacGillycuddy Press, 1991 Last known address was in Blackrock Ireland. Does anyone have a current address. Thank you Mary

Hello all! I am now 99.99% certain that this Daniel O'Connor is indeed my gg grandfather, and that Sarah Somerville was his wife. My father's middle name was "Somerville" and the other information regarding their daughter, Matilda, fits as well. I have even been able to trace this Somerville line back to 1733 in Ireland. This is certainly a thrilling find, and I am indebted to a woman named "Cheryl" for her work in finding this part of my Irish family. A million thanks as I enter this info into my tree!!!! SallyAnn (O'Connor) McChesney Ohio, USA irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Daniel O'Connor, born c. 1824 in Castleisland, Co. Kerry?? (CLabre1068@aol.com) From: CLabre1068@aol.com To: mcchesney1950@verizon.net, IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:13:02 EDT Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Daniel O'Connor, born c. 1824 in Castleisland, Co. Kerry?? In a message dated 9/12/2007 10:36:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mcchesney1950@verizon.net writes: Daniel O'Connor, who appears to have been baptized in October 1824 in Castleisland, Co. Kerry. He was born in 1824 (parents unknown at this point) and married "Sarah E" in Hello Sally, While looking at the census records for Leeds for this family, I noticed a family living with Daniel & Sarah O'CONNOR by the name of Simon & Matilda COYLE. Matilda was also born in Ireland and it states her mother is living with them Mary SUMMERVILLE. Following this family it states Matilda's mother was Sarah SUMMERVILLE in other census records. I believe this to be a great coincidence with Daniel & Sarah having a child named Matilda. Matilda SUMMERVILLE m. Simon COYLE Jan-Mar 1853 West Riding, Leeds, Yorkshire Sarah SUMMERVILLE b. 1819 d. Apr-Jun 1881 West Riding, Leeds, Yorkshire Matilda COYLE d. Dec 1889 (sister of Sarah O'Connor??) Matilda O'CONNOR m. John COGAN Apr-Jun 1872 If you haven't already ordered these certificates, they might give you more information on where they were born in Ireland or parents names. In 1891 census Matilda COGAN states she was b. Ireland, Belfast and in 1901 census she is living with her brother Edward O'CONNOR Good Luck, Cheryl ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

In a message dated 9/12/2007 10:36:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mcchesney1950@verizon.net writes: Daniel O'Connor, who appears to have been baptized in October 1824 in Castleisland, Co. Kerry. He was born in 1824 (parents unknown at this point) and married "Sarah E" in Hello Sally, While looking at the census records for Leeds for this family, I noticed a family living with Daniel & Sarah O'CONNOR by the name of Simon & Matilda COYLE. Matilda was also born in Ireland and it states her mother is living with them Mary SUMMERVILLE. Following this family it states Matilda's mother was Sarah SUMMERVILLE in other census records. I believe this to be a great coincidence with Daniel & Sarah having a child named Matilda. Matilda SUMMERVILLE m. Simon COYLE Jan-Mar 1853 West Riding, Leeds, Yorkshire Sarah SUMMERVILLE b. 1819 d. Apr-Jun 1881 West Riding, Leeds, Yorkshire Matilda COYLE d. Dec 1889 (sister of Sarah O'Connor??) Matilda O'CONNOR m. John COGAN Apr-Jun 1872 If you haven't already ordered these certificates, they might give you more information on where they were born in Ireland or parents names. In 1891 census Matilda COGAN states she was b. Ireland, Belfast and in 1901 census she is living with her brother Edward O'CONNOR Good Luck, Cheryl ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Trying to find my gg grandfather, Daniel O'Connor, who appears to have been baptized in October 1824 in Castleisland, Co. Kerry. He was born in 1824 (parents unknown at this point) and married "Sarah E" in 1850. Two children, Edward and Matilda were born in 1851 and 1852 in Ireland; the family then moved to Leeds, England, where my great-grandfather, James Daniel O'Connor, was born in 1855 or 56. His son, Claude, was my grandfather. I vaguely remember someone mentioning Co. Kerry while I was growing up, but have no documentation as to our family origins in Ireland. Can anyone help? SallyAnn (O'Connor) McChesney Ohio, USA

In a message dated 9/11/2007 3:06:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com writes: Hi Everyone, Time is ticking away as I frantically search for my ancestors before heading to Ireland next month! I have run across a potential match but don't know what to do next. I found a Hannah Coffee marrying a Timothy Sullivan Feb 1832 in RC, Kilcummin Parish, Kerry through the IGI individual record. Is Kilcummin Parish near Killarney? If these are the correct people, they should have at least two children: Hanora b. 03 NOV 1947 and John b. 24 JUN 1849. If I order the batch # from LDS will it list their children? Thanks! Donna Kilcummin Parish is located on the northeast side of Killarney and Fr. Tom Looney has been the parish priest there the past few years, but has been transferred to another parish. My last visit to see Fr. Tom was in 2005 to check out his parish records for my O'Leary/Sullivan Clan. Unfortunately they weren't recorded but Fr. Tom went out of his way to help us, allowing us to browse through his records while he had to go across the street to his church and officiate a funeral Mass. I hope the new priest Rev. Joe Begley who took over Our Lady of Lourdes Church has as much interest in genealogy as Fr. Tom and will help you when you visit Kilcummin. Good luck. Don ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

hi I'm looking for anyone who has a Ellen divine or devine in there tree born about 1830/33 father timothy of thomas who was a clerk to the chapel in Kerry thank you patricia mcmahon _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

Hi Everyone, Time is ticking away as I frantically search for my ancestors before heading to Ireland next month! I have run across a potential match but don't know what to do next. I found a Hannah Coffee marrying a Timothy Sullivan Feb 1832 in RC, Kilcummin Parish, Kerry through the IGI individual record. Is Kilcummin Parish near Killarney? If these are the correct people, they should have at least two children: Hanora b. 03 NOV 1947 and John b. 24 JUN 1849. If I order the batch # from LDS will it list their children? Thanks! Donna

I have followed the triumphs, the requests for information and the records of the "brick walls" on the list for many years. I have my own brick wall. I cannot find the birthplace for my great grandfather or the marriage location for his father. I will be in Ireland in October for a wedding and hope to do research work in Tralee. John O'GORMAN is listed as John Gorman , Father, on Marriage certificate of William Gorman. O'Gorman and Gorman are interchangeable. Haven grown up in Sneem I know that it is common to drop the "O" for local usage but retain it for legal usage. Documents that I have examined carry both forms. For consistency purposes I will use the O'Gorman format and attempt to reference the different usages as documented. He married ?? O'Neill (?) This is purely a supposition from a chance remark by a grandaunt.. William (Bill) O'GORMAN, born about 1844 (possibly in Tralee or North Kerry)(?), died 13 Aug 1894 in Sneem, Co. Kerry, buried in Ballynahaglish, Tahilla (old burial place for Sneem area). Listed as Gorman on civil marriage record and on headstone. Sneem is given as his residence on the marriage certificate. Family tradition has it that he came to Sneem to complete the steeple of the Catholic Church after work was suspended because a local man fell off the scaffolding and was killed. His trade was listed as stone mason, slater or plasterer. He married Catherine (Kate) DONOGHUE, 29 Jul 1871 in Catholic Church, Sneem, born about 1849 in Sneem, (daughter of Timothy (Thade) DONOGHUE and Norry DONOGHUE) died 21 FEB 1931 in Sneem, buried in Sneem Cemetery. Headstone reads O'Gorman. Suggestions for further research will be greatly received. I copied this poem from a book I saw while visiting in Spring Valley California in October 1995 Page 274 National and Historical Ballads of Ireland being Selections from the Best Irish Authors Dublin M. H. Gill & Son Ltd This book was marked as given as a Christmas gift in 1910. O'GORMAN by T.R I saw the old man in the Spring, and thought of his dear child, Whose silver voice, like Celia's lute with heavenly art beguil'd In days of chivalry and song, when that brave boy was seen Like light emerging from a cloud - the sunburst on our green. But he was forced by fortune's fall from kith and kin to fly, Yet would he plunge through fire and foam to see his father die; But though the spirit parts from earth, it leaves a pledge behind, The priceless worth of head and hearth by which it was enshrin'd. The Summer with its genial glow, smiled down upon the land, The patriarch was living still, with willing heart and hand To serve the cause, and those in need who throng'd around him then - Oh! mark - unto his latest breath he loved his brother men. He pass'd away, but some said, with tender voice and low, "There was a day when that old man would grasp the foreign foe;" But here is one who well can say, though fraud and falsehood thrive, He has a son who is, perhaps, for Ireland's sake alive. The Autumn came with fruitful love, God send its golden smile To cheer the humble toiler, and renew hope in the isle; Brave hearts had perished in the strife - who numbered those who fell? It was a vengeful strife, indeed, when few remain to tell. But you, brave man, to whom I sing, and ye the list'ners round, While old O'Gorman calmly rests in hallow'd Irish ground, Above his grave your firm resolve should like the marble stand, Like him, to hold, in life and death, by faith and fatherland.

Good morning list I have a problem with the marriage of Nora Winkle and James Connell. They were married 9th July 1865 at Dromtarriff I have two conflicting entries for her father one gives William and the other James. The information I have is she was b 1833/1842 parents James Winkle and Margaret Connors. Problem now is who is William any help or advise would be very much appreciated. Michael Mick Winkle