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    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question
    2. Graeme Ford
    3. Dear Jean, Are you talking about mitochondrial DNA? I have investigated doing that testing myself, it is only interesting in that it will tell you where your maternal line originated from in the world, and where that tribe moved and settled to. Have you read SYKES book, the seven daughters of Eve? However, my children come from a long line of BLANCHARDS, who first settled in Boston Mas, in 1637. Another BLANCHARD family arrived in Boston some two years later. It was always speculated that the two senior males of each family were brothers. (One of my ex husband's forebears moved to Nova Scotia and then our branch arrived in Australia in the 1850's some time. We haven't pinned the boat down yet.) Finally a university linked test was set up for any male Blanchard or similar name, who wished to contribute. They have now proved conclusively that the two men and families were of no relation whatsoever, and as more and more men contribute their DNA they are following offshoot names and other family lines that are related. These families find it all very exciting. Regards, Wynnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick and Jeanne Baldwin" <dbaldwin@ix.netcom.com> To: <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question >I hope this topic hasn't been covered in the past. I am beginning to >research > the options for DNA testing for mt-DNA. Have any of you participated in > such testing > and what were your experiences? > > Please share any information. Thank you in advance. > > Jeanne from CA > > > Dick & Jeanne Baldwin > Sacramento, CA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: > 14/11/2007 4:54 PM > >

    11/16/2007 03:39:43
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question
    2. I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list and i have a database of 155,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2 so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary Now you have the females decended from Mary Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters. these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir. but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find. I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be genealogy never is Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

    11/16/2007 01:03:33
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Riley/Burns/Foley in PA or Erie?
    2. Hi! This may seem like a silly question...but in doing my research back to Phil., PA. with my grandmother Burns family (early 1900's). I ran across a nun who told me that an aunt of mine (who refuses to share the genealogical information she has) called her years ago...and mentioned a Foley 'connection' that I can not seem to find with the Burns family in PA. or with the Riley's. It is haunting me...anyone have any ideas, links, connections, ties or ideas? Happy Turkey Day to everyone! Jim Riley http://www.lulu.com/content/210331 James E. F. Riley, Sr. Author, 'Daydreams & Nightmares' Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    11/15/2007 07:15:55
    1. [IRL-KERRY] A query from an Irishman, but color me dubious....
    2. Mary Ellen Rossi
    3. Greetings, I got the below correspondence as a response to my website and my interest in Whelton genealogy. At first I was excited, thrilled out of my shoes! But then I got suspicious and am wondering if I might be wrong to be so.... I mentioned names in my family history, John, David and "evil" uncle Andrew who I doubt is even a Whelton....my ggrandfather Bartholomew was left behind in Ireland when the rest of the family emigrated in 1861 as a 6 year old and stayed with "Uncle Andrew" who mistreated him....but these names were from 150 years ago!! The fellow who wrote to me has all of these names in his family including "Andrew" and wants to see the US. I don't want to seem unfriendly but this seems like a setup to me....someone anxious to visit the US and making up ancestors..... If anyone has the time to read the correspondence and can comment on it, I'd appreciate it. I 've been "leary" of writing back to this guy again.... All the best, Mary Ellen Searching for Wheltons from Cork, Horrigans and McCarthys from Kerry and Connors from Leitrim and a bunch of Swedes.... From: michaelwhelton@gmail.com To: merossi1@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Whelton from West Cork Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 03:13:05 -0600 Mary, My grandfather John came from the Whelton home in Knocknageehy. There was a large family that grew out of that house. There was a bother Andrew that died in the British Navy in WWII and it seems these names are repeating alot. We have John, David and Andrew that are all prominent names in my side. I will definitely explore more and given my USA life, I would love to see if we can make some connections. I think it is very important to see our family tree. I will keep in touch. Best, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Ellen Rossi To: Michael Whelton Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: RE: Whelton from West Cork Hi- Thanks for writing! I think my Wheltons are from Knocknageehy, as the names David and John are prominent in my family tree and there was a David and John there in the Griffith Index, but all I ever heard was that John Whelton was from Clonakilty...and odd stories about my ggrandfather, Bartholomew being left behind while the others emigrated. I heard he was left behind as a babe in arms but it seems more likely that he was 6 years old. He was also left with an "Uncle Andrew", but I don't know if this guy was a Whelton or not. He also supposed worked very hard on "the farm" but when he came to the US, pursued his former occupation as a fisherman. Who knows. Should you get a family tree together, that would wonderful and I'd love to hear about your results! Thanks for contacting me! all the best, Mary Ellen > From: michaelwhelton@gmail.com > To: merossi1@hotmail.com > Subject: Whelton from West Cork > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 15:30:54 -0600 > > Hi Mary, > > My name is Michael Whelton. I am from the Knocknageehy Whelton homestead in > West Cork. > > I am from a generation of young Irish that thinks it is important for Irish > people to trace their imigrant families and not wait for people to turn up > at our door in Ireland! I found your website on-line and wanted to touch > base with you. > > I currently live in Chicago and have been in the US with 8 years. > > My father Michael lives in the townland next door to Knocknageehy. His > father, John was born there in that line of Wheltons. > > Every year when we are home we try to get his family tree from that home, > but we never make sense of it! > > I will be heading back for Christmas to Ireland and would like to challenge > my father and help him draw out a family tree and trace who left for the US, > and see if we can make some connections. > > So Mary, I am interested in staying in touch with you and see if there is a > link between the Whelton lines. Let me know if I can connect with you some > more on this research. > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > Ph: 773 213 1092 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

    11/15/2007 03:34:34
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Foley Shea Sullivan
    2. Donna Marstrander
    3. Anna Sullivan b.3-27-1857 Canada d.9-8-1900 Indianapolis Indiana m.JeremiahFoley b.1848 ireland imm circa 1861 d.9-1-1900 Indianapolis ,Indiana Anna Sullivan parents Julia Shea Ireland Michael Sullivan Ireland That is all the documented information I have. 2007/11/15, Donna Marstrander <donna@marstrander.com>: > > Julia Shea m Michael Sullivan lived in Indianapolis ,Indiana are > daugther Anna Sullivan m.Jeremiah Foley lived in Indianapolis > Children as well. > Mostly railroaders following the train work through the state. > Anyone have these people in their tree? > > -- > Donna Louise Marstrander > -- Donna Louise Marstrander

    11/15/2007 03:47:19
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Foley
    2. Donna, Starting with Jeremiah/Anna Foley, can you give timeframes? What do you mean you can't find their death certs (1900 & 1927)? Where did you find Anna's parents' names? Do you know where Julia Shea & Michael Sullivan are buried? I can't see the immigrant parents in US censuses .... what am I missing? Kate in Chicago Anna Sullivan & Jeremiah Foley in 1880? Connersville, Fayettte, IN: Jerrey Foley, 35 IRE Anna, 23, CAN Edward, 2 IN John, 1, IN Mary Sullivan 16 CAN John Clifford 22, IRE John Sullivan 35, CAN F. McCarly 32, IRE Denis Foley, 33 IRE James Ohed, 40 IRE "Julia Shea m Michael Sullivan lived in Indianapolis ,Indiana are daugther Anna Sullivan m.Jeremiah Foley lived in Indianapolis Children as well." Older posting: "Jeremiah Foley, Born Ireland 1848, Immigrated 1861 Died 1900, I found his family grave site in Indianapolis but can't find a death certificate. Wife Anna Sullivan b 1858 Canada Eng. immigrated 1865 hearsay that she was born on the ship coming from Ireland Died 1927."

    11/15/2007 03:20:14
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Foley Shea Sullivan
    2. Donna Marstrander
    3. Julia Shea m Michael Sullivan lived in Indianapolis ,Indiana are daugther Anna Sullivan m.Jeremiah Foley lived in Indianapolis Children as well. Mostly railroaders following the train work through the state. Anyone have these people in their tree? -- Donna Louise Marstrander

    11/14/2007 07:53:39
    1. [IRL-KERRY] DNA testing
    2. Dick and jeanne, Participating in the DNA program is TOTALLY worth the money. It is an investment in helping fture genealogists. As well, for me it confirmed a whole family branch in the U. S. We could trace no known connections in the U. S. dating back to 1855. Me and the other person who tested have IDENTICAL paternal DNA, as well as same surname. So we now know beyond doubt that we share a common pater in Ireland and he had more detail on his ancestors in Ireland so I have been able to narrow the3 focus of my research to the Waterville area, rather than all of Kerry. With the scientific confirmations, who knows what will emerge in the future. So lay the foundations, plant the seed of future trees. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://members.aol.com/Sadie476/Thayer.html

    11/14/2007 09:28:39
    1. [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question
    2. Dick and Jeanne Baldwin
    3. I hope this topic hasn't been covered in the past. I am beginning to research the options for DNA testing for mt-DNA. Have any of you participated in such testing and what were your experiences? Please share any information. Thank you in advance. Jeanne from CA Dick & Jeanne Baldwin Sacramento, CA

    11/13/2007 01:29:42
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Irish Naming Pattern...oh no!!
    2. Fran - it happens to the best of us. Children within an Irish family were traditionally named according to the following pattern: First son after father's father Second son after mother's father Third son after father Fourth son after father's oldest brother Fifth son after mother's oldest brother First daughter after mother's mother (or father's mother) Second daughter after father's mother (or mother's mother) Third daughter after mother Fourth daughter after mother's oldest sister Fifth daughter after father's oldest sister Liz in warm and sunny Fla. In a message dated 11/13/2007 3:23:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fifi36@comcast.net writes: Please excuse me for being so dumb for having to ask yet again - after all the times it's been written on this site - for someone to repeat the Irish Naming Pattern, please. I had written it down and put it in a place that I'd be sure to find it. Sure! I've looked everywhere that I can think of because I knew that I'd be embarassed to have to ask. And I am! Thank you. Fran Weeks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

    11/13/2007 11:31:21
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Listen up if you have ancestors from the Beara Peninsula
    2. Ray Marshall
    3. Riobard is ready to call it a day. Next August. Ray From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: <Beara-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [BEARA] US World War 2 Draft Cards 1942 -- "old men draft" -- ofBeara nativity > Dear Listers, > Sorry I haven't been able to contribute for the past > month or so ---- or maybe longer ---- because I have had new shelving put > into my computer room, and all over the floor (between boxes and papers) > was worse-looking than if it was hit by a storm. It will take me quite a > while yet before I will be able to put law and order into the place > because I have to go through again correspondence and single papers lying > in boxes for years before getting rid of them. As well, I have being doing > alot of travelling of late ----- and, after all the years of researching, > it is beginning to dawn on me that there are only 24 hours in a day. > A few nights ago I happened to come across an email of > about a month ago to the List from Susan, going through research she had > done on a World War 2 Draft Cards database at Ancestry.com on a list of > men born in Beara and living in the U.S.A. in 1942. Credit to Susan for > going to the trouble of going through the List. But in going through Lists > of Beara origins given in the States, it is always prudent not to accept > at first hand what is seen in documents. The fact that Castletownbere > would be put down in documents or sometimes family history in the States > as the birthplace of a person or an ancestor would only often be just a > guideline that the person originally came from some part of the Beara > Peninsula. Dates can also be out. I have all the possible genealogical > data on every Parish of the Beara Peninsula here ----- and even stuff > gathered from the old people years ago that one wouldn't find in any > Church or Civil Records because it goes back much furthe! > r than them. > I just happen to have one page of the Draft Card Data here > that came in the email with Susan's praiseworthy efforts, and, before my > supper, I will go over some of what I found just to set the Record > straight. Charles Patrick McCarthy, down as having been born on 15 Aug > 1882, of Castletownbere, was really born on 20 Aug 1882 about 7 miles from > there in Cappacluherane, Ardgroom Outward, Eyeries Parish. Daniel > Harrington, down as having been born on 26 Dec. 1880 in Bere Haven, was > born on Nov 6th 1880 in Lickbarrahan, Allihies Parish. James Regan, down > as having been born on 4 June 1888, of Castletown Bere Haven, was born on > Apr. 21st 1888 about 8 miles from there in Cahirkeem, Eyeries Parish. > Jeremiah McAuliffe, down as having been born on 28 Dec 1895, of Castletown > Bere, was born on Dec 30th 1895 in Cauragh, Eyeries Parish. Daniel Lynch, > down as having been born on 11 Nov 1894, of Castletown Bere, actually had > the correct birthdate --- but was born in Ciunlo! > ugh, Allihies Parish. John Lowney, down as having been born on 6 Jan 1890, > of Castletown Bere, had the correct date of birth, but was of Greenane, > Bere Island. Michael Dunn, down as having been born on 10 Dec 1882, of > Castletown, was actually born on Dec. 9th 1880 in Gortnarea, Adrigole > Parish. Some others gave just Adrigole, but not the Townlands, Roosk and > Cappanaparka, in the Adrigole Parish.The date of birth given for one of > them was 17 Mar 1888. It should have been Sept. 20th 1888. Another just > gave Bere Island, but not the particular Townland, Cloughland, on the > island. > These are only some of the little headaches that one encounters > when trying to do research. Then you have the Patrick O'Sullivan "who > threw stones into Bantry Bay" ---- and nothing else. The special > "privilege" with womens' "ages" ---- the older they are getting, the > younger they are becoming in the "ages" I get to research --- is a study > unto itself. One lady had five different "ages" !!. But, then a! > gain, how could I say anything to the ladies ? ----- some of the lovel > iest people I have ever come across. > I find it difficult to put together the news of a decision > that I made about a week ago. Over many, many years I have spent at times > days into late nights researching and researching the genealogy of > families all over the worldof Beara ancestry and handwriting out (and > correcting errors in) original Parish Records and Civil Records, as well > as years of travelling all around the Beara Parishes interviewing elderly > people now long gone. Many people have been most appreciative of and > thankful for the years of work I may have saved them, and for the reams of > information that they would most certainly have lost had I not given up a > big part of my life in trying to save what I could while I could instead > of enjoying myself travelling around the world. > Unfortunately, one cannot > live forever. Age catches up with us all. September 4th of next year will > be Joan's and my Golden Wedding Jubilee. We hope that our health will hold > up to get as far as it, D.V. I will work ! > at my research from now as far as mid-August 2008. Then I will retire from > doing any more Family-Tree research ----- and start preparing for the next > life !! > I know that whether I'll finish "Above" or "Below", I'll have a > bit of a job trying to escape from the women whose ages I gave away. > That's why I'm glad now that I was involved in athletics for any "spare > time" I had !! Even though I will have finished up with my work by > mid-August, I will be keeping my considerable collection of research work > over the years right here. One of my grandchildren, though only four and a > half years old now, may, hopefully, take it up in the future. She would > certainly do an excellent job, God Bless her, while, at that time, I will > be observing from the "Great Beyond". > As ever, > Riobard.

    11/13/2007 09:20:55
    1. [IRL-KERRY] An error
    2. Mary Simpson
    3. Dear one and all, many apologies, in my annoyance I called the Family Records Centre in London the Family History Centre - so sorry!! And I do know that many records are available on-line, but this place was wonderful, you saw the faces of people light up when long-lost family members were found, some times with whoops of joy. People helped and encouraged each other, and shared their knowledge and experience. I so used to look forward to going, it made the long trip up to the Great Wen bearable.... But I do apologize for the confusion inadvertently caused, Mary

    11/13/2007 08:24:44
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Irish Naming Pattern...oh no!!
    2. Fran Weeks
    3. Please excuse me for being so dumb for having to ask yet again - after all the times it's been written on this site - for someone to repeat the Irish Naming Pattern, please. I had written it down and put it in a place that I'd be sure to find it. Sure! I've looked everywhere that I can think of because I knew that I'd be embarassed to have to ask. And I am! Thank you. Fran Weeks

    11/13/2007 08:22:53
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Non appearances in the Griffith's Lists
    2. Ray Marshall
    3. -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Simpson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:27 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com; IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com; IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Non appearances in the Griffith's Lists Have recently discovered that a great great Grandfather in Cork was not named Daniel, as I had assumed, but Jeremiah. No Jeremiahs with the relevant surname appear in the family townland ( or even parish ) in the Griffith's Valuation. Which rather stumped me.... but then I thought again of the background to all this. All the family were small farmers, and I knew that there was a great uncle with the name Daniel, brother to my great grandmother ( born about 1840 ), and given that the family may well have worked the farm together, but only Jeremiah's father Daniel ( age in his sixties?? ) would have appeared on the Valuation List - as HE was the one that was responsible for paying the rent on the farm, but sharing the place with his sons and their families. Does this make sense? It may answer the conundrum of the "nonappearance" of people that you would expect to find in these lists. [>>>I would think that that is good thinking, Mary. We tend to think Of Griffiths as a census because it is referred to as a "census substitute." but it is a property tax valuation and tax due list with owners (usually) and lessees of land listed. In a few cases you will see lessees subletting land, often to members of their family.<<<] <Second paragraph deleted as I have no information on the subject.> Ray Marshall IRL-Kerry list Minneapolis, Minnesota

    11/12/2007 11:06:27
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Non appearances in the Griffith's Lists
    2. Mary Simpson
    3. Have recently discovered that a great great Grandfather in Cork was not named Daniel, as I had assumed, but Jeremiah. No Jeremiahs with the relevant surname appear in the family townland ( or even parish ) in the Griffith's Valuation. Which rather stumped me.... but then I thought again of the background to all this. All the family were small farmers, and I knew that there was a great uncle with the name Daniel, brother to my great grandmother ( born about 1840 ), and given that the family may well have worked the farm together, but only Jeremiah's father Daniel ( age in his sixties?? ) would have appeared on the Valuation List - as HE was the one that was responsible for paying the rent on the farm, but sharing the place with his sons and their families. Does this make sense? It may answer the conundrum of the "nonappearance" of people that you would expect to find in these lists. Also a quick reference to an event that does not seem to have appeared on your boards. In October our Government here in the UK removed all the paper index ledgers to the old post 1837 birth, marriage and death lists from the wonderful Family History Centre in Islington, London, which anybody and everybody could look up at any time to find details of their family members in England or Wales. They had PROMISED that these would be freely available online, but, having sent the work out abroad, this is now hopelessly behind, and will not happen now for years and years. You now have to go to the National Archives in Kew ( much more difficult to get to than the Family History Centre ) and peer at microfilm. Anybody who has researched microfilm will know what this means. A great shame..... and this information belongs to the public - not the Government. Mary

    11/12/2007 06:26:36
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Connelly in Kerry
    2. Jim Tilbe
    3. Surnames: Connelly Collins My grandmother Bridget Connelly was born 2 October 1879 and baptized at the church in Ballyduff in Causeway three days later. She was the daughter of Denis and Mary (Collins) Connelly. Bridget came to the U.S. about 1900, settling in Holyoke, Massachusetts where she married Patrick Hannifan. After Patrick's death she married Albert Tilbe in 1919. Since Bridget was supposed to be one of 25 (!) children of Denis Connelly (by two wives), there must be others who are looking for these people! Any help would be appreciated, since Bridget was reluctant to talk about the past in her later years. Jim Tilbe

    11/12/2007 03:17:04
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey Collection
    2. ~Vet*Nurse~
    3. Ok... I couldn't pass this one up and I simply have to make a comment. I am a computer "dork", or... more commonly known as a tech jockey... I took an Internet Securities class over the summer and although Google is a good search engine, it is also one of the worst for allowing your identity and confidential information to get hijacked, along with Yahoo! and others out there. The best you can do is sweep your computer often for tracking cookies, make sure your antivirus software is up-to-date, and scan OFTEN!! If you have a security program that allows you to remove your browsing history, remove cookies, remove temporary files - USE IT! AND OFTEN, like EVERY DAY, several times a day even. I'm not saying don't use these sites... you pretty much have no choice if you don't know where something is on the Internet and you have to search for it... my own ISP uses the Google search engine to power its search feature... basically use these search engines with caution, and alway! s SWEEP YOUR COMPUTER AFTER USING THEM! Use a firewall, and do not permit personal information to be sent over the Internet. Most firewall packages have a feature that blocks personal information from being displayed or sent. Ok... didn't mean to scare the doodles out of anyone... but sometimes a little fear is healthy. ;o) Have fun surfing!! Terrae -------------- Original message -------------- From: Lizziems@aol.com > RAY > When you talk search engine - you might want to also mention "Google" the > best search engine for Genealogists. > > Liz - in warm sunny Florida getting ready for the Big Turkey Day and the > arrival of family. All of them! > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    11/11/2007 05:18:33
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey Collection
    2. RAY When you talk search engine - you might want to also mention "Google" the best search engine for Genealogists. Liz - in warm sunny Florida getting ready for the Big Turkey Day and the arrival of family. All of them! ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

    11/11/2007 11:33:14
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey Collection
    2. brid Smith
    3. --- Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net> wrote: > PARTIAL LIST OF THE LOCATIONS OF THE "CASEY > COLLECTION" > > "O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve Lougher and the Upper Blackwater in Ireland"by Albert E. Casey Books can also be found here, Indian River Library Vero Beach Florida plus other Ireland resources. Checkout resources "FOREIGN COUNTRIES" http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindian/ircl/reason.pdf Good luck searching Bridget __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    11/11/2007 10:13:51
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey Collection
    2. How does someone get ahold of the Casey Collection? Are the books for sale, online, at libraries? Sorry to be dense, but heard of them before only as if they were just in Ireland. Thanks, Jim/E. www.lulu.com/content/210331 --- Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net> wrote: > > Good post, Marie. And don't forget that he paid to > have the books index > in a time long before the personal computer where it > probably had to be > done using 3x5 cards. > > Remember, there are over 3,000,000 names I the book! > > > Ray Marshall > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Marie Wallace > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:43 PM > To: bigdand1@juno.com; IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Casey Collection > > > Hi Dan, > > I'm sure you are going to get zillions of replies > for this question. > > Albert Casey spent years tracing his family in > Ireland and along the > way, he literally gathered every record that the > places had and he > proceeded to publish his work. Unfortuanately, > someone decided to take > 4 sheets of 8.5" x 11" and condense them to one > page. You need a good > magnifying glass to > read most of it. > Of course, instead of 16 volumes, it would have > probably been 84 > volumes. > Bless the man that had the patience to > gather all the information! In his work he has > information that even > the Irish National Archives doesn't have. > > If you tried to get any of this information today > from the different > churchs > or heritage centers, it would costs you several > thousand dollars! > > Hope this gives you an idea how important this > collection is! > > Marie in Georgia > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * > * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Read about the casey collection f or a year now. > never an > explanation.Whatis the Casey collection ??? Dan > Dwyer in historic > Medford Ma . > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - > Release Date: > 11/9/2007 7:29 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > James E. F. Riley, Sr. Author, 'Daydreams & Nightmares' Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    11/11/2007 09:27:52