Hahahaha Fran... nope... don't mind at ALL! ;o) Terrae -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran Weeks Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:17 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 Hi Larry, I read your posting to Terrae, and please excuse me for jumping in here but I don't think Terrae would mind. I have Loads of Hannahs in my Sullivans of Tralee, County Kerry, and this family was intrinsically tied to both CONNOR and O'CONNOR families of the area. I don't have time right now to look up James, but I will if you request it. Regards, Fran Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "~Gen°Digger~" <GenDigger@comcast.net> To: "'LARRY MCCHESNEY'" <mcchesney1950@verizon.net>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > Hi Larry, > > Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my > family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given > name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to > be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a > Hannah > Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was > handed down within my specific Sullivan line. > > Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of > luck however in your search. > > Happy hunting! > > Terrae Sullivan > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > > I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James > Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? > > irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) > From: "Donna Marstrander" <donna@marstrander.com> > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 > > I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He > later married a Julia Shea. > Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. > > On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Anneke Hubert" >> To: >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea >> Hello, >> I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John >> Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county > Kerry. >> >> Their children are: >> >> CHILDREN: >> 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; >> >> 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, >> b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. >> Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> >> >> With kind regards, >> Anneke >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> > > > -- > Donna Louise Marstrander > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kerry folk! A couple of years ago I began searching for Bridget BRESNAHAN and Nora O'CONNELL, mother and daughter, born respectively in or around Tralee around 1860 (plus or minus 15 yrs) and 1880 (plus or minus 15 yrs). The baptism records at St. John's in Tralee yielded nothing. Back in 1994 I even looked through the records myself. A much more skilled searcher looked more recently and found nothing. My question is: What are the names of a dozen or more towns in the vicinity that might be where my great-grandmother (Bridget BRESNAHAN) and my grandmother (Nora, or Hanora O'CONNELL) might have been from. By the time Bridget BRESNAHAN O'CONNELL and Nora O'CONNELL immigrated to America around 1900 (my Dad was born in Boston in 1910, and his parents were married in 1905 or 1906, (I have the certificate...but not in front of me) in Boston at the Paulist Church, or St. Paul's, anyway, in Roxbury, Boston. I was all excited about finding info leading to the discovery of my grandmother's birth certificate (I'd like to get an Irish Passport, if possible)... But, not even a professional ancestor search could turn anything up. Does anyone have any clues to some other towns, names of places or Churches where info might be found. My Dad (Paul Joseph Goode, died in 1990. Born in Boston, died in Oregon) used to say that they called my grandmother Nora "the Rose of Tralee." So, Tralee seems to be the starting place, and so far, nothing turns up. My Dad was proud to be descended from people from Kerry. Thanks for any help you can give me. If anyone can really help, I will fax you the results (inconclusive as they are) from the company in Utah that did the ancestor search. Thank you! Father Francis Goode, O.P. francis@stdominics.org 415-567-7824 St. Dominic's San Francisco, CA. 94115

Hi Larry, Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a Hannah Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was handed down within my specific Sullivan line. Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of luck however in your search. Happy hunting! Terrae Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) From: "Donna Marstrander" <donna@marstrander.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He later married a Julia Shea. Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anneke Hubert" > To: > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea > Hello, > I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John > Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. > > Their children are: > > CHILDREN: > 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; > > 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, > b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; > 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. > Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; > > > With kind regards, > Anneke > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > -- Donna Louise Marstrander To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) From: "Donna Marstrander" <donna@marstrander.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He later married a Julia Shea. Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anneke Hubert" > To: > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea > Hello, > I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John > Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. > > Their children are: > > CHILDREN: > 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; > > 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, > b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; > 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. > Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; > > > With kind regards, > Anneke > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > -- Donna Louise Marstrander To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He later married a Julia Shea. Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anneke Hubert" <a.hubert24@upcmail.nl> > To: <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea > Hello, > I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John > Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. > > Their children are: > > CHILDREN: > 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; > > 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, > b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; > 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. > Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; > > > With kind regards, > Anneke > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > -- Donna Louise Marstrander

As most of you who have read my posts realize, I have never recommended anything for anybody to purchase, other than the "Casey Collection", but tonight I have one. I just watched on EWTN TV a short, 40 minute, video entitle "Mr. Bourn's Gold", filmed in 1997, that showed what life was like for Irish gold miners in Grass Valley, California. Extremely well done and very accurate in its portrayal, I would think, from my genealogical research that has informed me that my great grandfather, William Scanlon, from County Waterford, lived there for a time between 1863 and 1869 or so. The time frame of the movie was about 1872. I would bet that Irish miners predominated there in the 1850s and 1860s, after the first gold miners who "panned" for gold had exhausted the easily accessible gold, and the Eastern Money Magnates came in to construct underground hydraulic mines (using water pressure to blow away the loose rock) to extract more gold. The miners became wage slaves then. Because of the unusal length, 40 minutes, it will probably not be seen on local television. But it is a great movie with some very realistic scenes. Ray Marshall Minneapolis "Documents events in the mining town of Grass Valley in 1872. Explains how the decision to use newly invented dynamite is resisted by the miners. Discusses the fate of St Mary's, the local orphanage. Filmed at Empire Mine State Historic Park." Miners wary of a new invention - dynamite - and an orphanage threatened with closure: these are the threads of a true story set in the mining town of Grass Valley in 1872. Location: Empire Mine State Historic Park. FIRST PRIZE TELLY AWARD. Length: 44:00 - $49.95 http://keltyassoc.com/episodes.html James Kelty & Associates 1493 Burton Drive, Suite A Cambria, CA 93428 (805) 927-1719 jkelt@charter.net http://www.empiremine.org/ Grass Valley is in Nevada County, California, northeast of Sacramento. The Empire Mine is the site of the oldest, largest, and richest gold mine in California. From 1850 to its closing in 1956, it produced 5.8 million ounces of gold.This 5.8 million ounces of gold would fill a box 7 feet on each side. It is estimated that this represented only 20% of the available gold...80% remains. The Park contains many of the original mine buildings, the owners cottage and the restored gardens and grounds as well as the entrance to 367 miles (the equivalent of a round trip from Grass Valley to San Jose) of abandoned and flooded shafts and tunnels.

Hello, I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. Their children are: CHILDREN: 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; With kind regards, Anneke

Love this new database! Enter a townland - very interesting! Kate in Chicago ****************************************************************************************************** U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925 http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1174&enc=1&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

Re-sending, in case this did not reach the group. I may have had a glitch. Wynnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Ford" <graycoin@tadaust.org.au> To: "Dick and Jeanne Baldwin" <dbaldwin@ix.netcom.com>; <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question > Dear Jean, > > Are you talking about mitochondrial DNA? > > I have investigated doing that testing myself, it is only interesting in > that it will tell you where your maternal line originated from in the > world, > and where that tribe moved and settled to. Have you read SYKES book, the > seven daughters of Eve? > > However, my children come from a long line of BLANCHARDS, who first > settled > in Boston Mas, in 1637. Another BLANCHARD family arrived in Boston some > two > years later. It was always speculated that the two senior males of each > family were brothers. > > (One of my ex husband's forebears moved to Nova Scotia and then our branch > arrived in Australia in the 1850's some time. We haven't pinned the boat > down yet.) > > Finally a university linked test was set up for any male Blanchard or > similar name, who wished to contribute. They have now proved conclusively > that the two men and families were of no relation whatsoever, and as more > and more men contribute their DNA they are following offshoot names and > other family lines that are related. These families find it all very > exciting. > > > Regards, > > Wynnette > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick and Jeanne Baldwin" <dbaldwin@ix.netcom.com> > To: <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:29 PM > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question > > >>I hope this topic hasn't been covered in the past. I am beginning to >>research >> the options for DNA testing for mt-DNA. Have any of you participated in >> such testing >> and what were your experiences? >> >> Please share any information. Thank you in advance. >> >> Jeanne from CA >> >> >> Dick & Jeanne Baldwin >> Sacramento, CA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: >> 14/11/2007 4:54 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: > 14/11/2007 4:54 PM > >

Hi, only townland I could see in castleisland parish is Gortroe. Try http://www.seanruad.com/ for townland search. Found below from griffiths on http://www.myirishancestry.com Regards Fintan Surname Forename Townland Parish County Connor Bartholomew Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Catherine Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Charles Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Charles Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Michael Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Philip Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Timothy Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Bartholomew Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Catherine Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Charles Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Charles Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Michael Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Philip Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Connor Timothy Gortroe Castleisland Kerry Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: LARRY MCCHESNEY <mcchesney1950@verizon.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 17 November, 2007 1:27:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 312 Hi....This is slightly off the subject at hand, but can anyone tell me if a town named "Gortglap" in Castleisland still exists? Was there even a town so named? My gg grandfather, Daniel O'Connor, is listed as having been born in that town in April 1826. I cannot find it on a map, nor can I find it listed as a current listing. Can anyone help?? SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 2. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 3. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 4. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 5. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 6. Re: My DNA tests (Helen Templeton) 7. Re: My DNA tests (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 8. Re: My DNA tests (CARADOC28@aol.com) From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:03:33 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list and i have a database of 155,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2 so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary Now you have the females decended from Mary Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters. these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir. but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find. I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be genealogy never is Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:32:15 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:38:30 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ACTUALLY AS A LIST OWNER i dont talk details on lists contact me at _Caradoc28@aol.com_ (mailto:Caradoc28@aol.com) title it DNA INFO and ask what you want in the body message THAT SAID i run the cty-longford project , and several other locations you can search any project listed below. the one i use is best and the largest Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:46:25 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I am mixed dominant a learning disorder I don't consider a disability unless you talk about reparative action like typing. and I am 59 . back then why teach males to type? lol also I didn't work in a profession that used written words when you don't use it. then it rusts away.:) sorry for my typing but instead of being either logical or creative . I can be both or neither. thus I see things in a different respective we are the real au contraire Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:04:57 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as opposed to what company one person might be signed up with. More along the general lines of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or is this too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their DNA tested on this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has it actually helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that are supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? I have been aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, too) that were, shall we say, less than honest with the information that they would send to people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true with some of these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. Just more paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: Helen Templeton <h.templeton@insightbb.com> CC: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:25:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:04 PM, MonicaBOS@aol.com wrote: > I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as > opposed to > what company one person might be signed up with. More along the > general lines > of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or > is this > too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their > DNA tested on > this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has > it actually > helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that > are > supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? > I have been > aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, > too) that were, > shall we say, less than honest with the information that they > would send to > people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true > with some of > these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. > > Just more paranoia. > > Monica > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message From: MonicaBOS@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:38:26 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests Helen, does that mean that you had the DNA testing done for medical/physical reasons instead of for family origins reasons? I have only been looking into DNA testing for family origin connections. But I would imagine that the testing you had done could also be used for family searches? Or no? Are these two completely separate kinds of DNA testing where one could not be used for the other? Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com, MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:31 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests In a message dated 11/16/2007 6:25:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, h.templeton@insightbb.com writes: The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen now helen if someone was doing a cty-kerry project. and if you matched another women there that gives you something very solid. either the woman is directly connected.or maybe that female dna is strong in kerry or a section of it. imagine that after that any women who matchs should look for Kerry sources OR maybe say this match with French sources came from the same women. we are just starting this its going to be really something when the 2-300,000 people world wide becomes 150 million. i found out I'm either original settlers 20-30,000 years ago , north African Berber or eygptian or jewish .imagine a gggson of a mason in Ardagh Longford 200 years ago. just let your mind deal with all the possibities Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. 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That's absolutely correct! The cursive "double s" often looks like a cursive "p"! Good detective work! LARRY MCCHESNEY <mcchesney1950@verizon.net> wrote: Hello all...I've just been sent a reply that indicates "Gortglap" could possibly be "Gortglass", having been mis-transcribed at one time. Does this sound logical to anyone out there?? SallyAnn McChesney (our e-mail is in my husband's name) irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 312 (LARRY MCCHESNEY) From: LARRY MCCHESNEY To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:27:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 312 Hi....This is slightly off the subject at hand, but can anyone tell me if a town named "Gortglap" in Castleisland still exists? Was there even a town so named? My gg grandfather, Daniel O'Connor, is listed as having been born in that town in April 1826. I cannot find it on a map, nor can I find it listed as a current listing. Can anyone help?? SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: Trish dtandrae@sbcglobal.net Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.

Hello all...I've just been sent a reply that indicates "Gortglap" could possibly be "Gortglass", having been mis-transcribed at one time. Does this sound logical to anyone out there?? SallyAnn McChesney (our e-mail is in my husband's name) irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 312 (LARRY MCCHESNEY) From: LARRY MCCHESNEY <mcchesney1950@verizon.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:27:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 312 Hi....This is slightly off the subject at hand, but can anyone tell me if a town named "Gortglap" in Castleisland still exists? Was there even a town so named? My gg grandfather, Daniel O'Connor, is listed as having been born in that town in April 1826. I cannot find it on a map, nor can I find it listed as a current listing. Can anyone help?? SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 2. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 3. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 4. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 5. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 6. Re: My DNA tests (Helen Templeton) 7. Re: My DNA tests (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 8. Re: My DNA tests (CARADOC28@aol.com) From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:03:33 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list and i have a database of 155,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2 so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary Now you have the females decended from Mary Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters. these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir. but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find. I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be genealogy never is Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:32:15 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:38:30 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ACTUALLY AS A LIST OWNER i dont talk details on lists contact me at _Caradoc28@aol.com_ (mailto:Caradoc28@aol.com) title it DNA INFO and ask what you want in the body message THAT SAID i run the cty-longford project , and several other locations you can search any project listed below. the one i use is best and the largest Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:46:25 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I am mixed dominant a learning disorder I don't consider a disability unless you talk about reparative action like typing. and I am 59 . back then why teach males to type? lol also I didn't work in a profession that used written words when you don't use it. then it rusts away.:) sorry for my typing but instead of being either logical or creative . I can be both or neither. thus I see things in a different respective we are the real au contraire Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:04:57 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as opposed to what company one person might be signed up with. More along the general lines of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or is this too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their DNA tested on this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has it actually helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that are supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? I have been aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, too) that were, shall we say, less than honest with the information that they would send to people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true with some of these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. Just more paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: Helen Templeton CC: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:25:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:04 PM, MonicaBOS@aol.com wrote: > I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as > opposed to > what company one person might be signed up with. More along the > general lines > of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or > is this > too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their > DNA tested on > this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has > it actually > helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that > are > supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? > I have been > aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, > too) that were, > shall we say, less than honest with the information that they > would send to > people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true > with some of > these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. > > Just more paranoia. > > Monica > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message From: MonicaBOS@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:38:26 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests Helen, does that mean that you had the DNA testing done for medical/physical reasons instead of for family origins reasons? I have only been looking into DNA testing for family origin connections. But I would imagine that the testing you had done could also be used for family searches? Or no? Are these two completely separate kinds of DNA testing where one could not be used for the other? Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com, MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:31 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests In a message dated 11/16/2007 6:25:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, h.templeton@insightbb.com writes: The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen now helen if someone was doing a cty-kerry project. and if you matched another women there that gives you something very solid. either the woman is directly connected.or maybe that female dna is strong in kerry or a section of it. imagine that after that any women who matchs should look for Kerry sources OR maybe say this match with French sources came from the same women. we are just starting this its going to be really something when the 2-300,000 people world wide becomes 150 million. i found out I'm either original settlers 20-30,000 years ago , north African Berber or eygptian or jewish .imagine a gggson of a mason in Ardagh Longford 200 years ago. just let your mind deal with all the possibities Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. 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In a message dated 11/16/2007 6:25:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, h.templeton@insightbb.com writes: The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen now helen if someone was doing a cty-kerry project. and if you matched another women there that gives you something very solid. either the woman is directly connected.or maybe that female dna is strong in kerry or a section of it. imagine that after that any women who matchs should look for Kerry sources OR maybe say this match with French sources came from the same women. we are just starting this its going to be really something when the 2-300,000 people world wide becomes 150 million. i found out I'm either original settlers 20-30,000 years ago , north African Berber or eygptian or jewish .imagine a gggson of a mason in Ardagh Longford 200 years ago. just let your mind deal with all the possibities Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Helen, does that mean that you had the DNA testing done for medical/physical reasons instead of for family origins reasons? I have only been looking into DNA testing for family origin connections. But I would imagine that the testing you had done could also be used for family searches? Or no? Are these two completely separate kinds of DNA testing where one could not be used for the other? Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as opposed to what company one person might be signed up with. More along the general lines of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or is this too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their DNA tested on this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has it actually helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that are supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? I have been aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, too) that were, shall we say, less than honest with the information that they would send to people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true with some of these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. Just more paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I am mixed dominant a learning disorder I don't consider a disability unless you talk about reparative action like typing. and I am 59 . back then why teach males to type? lol also I didn't work in a profession that used written words when you don't use it. then it rusts away.:) sorry for my typing but instead of being either logical or creative . I can be both or neither. thus I see things in a different respective we are the real au contraire Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ACTUALLY AS A LIST OWNER i dont talk details on lists contact me at _Caradoc28@aol.com_ (mailto:Caradoc28@aol.com) title it DNA INFO and ask what you want in the body message THAT SAID i run the cty-longford project , and several other locations you can search any project listed below. the one i use is best and the largest Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi....This is slightly off the subject at hand, but can anyone tell me if a town named "Gortglap" in Castleisland still exists? Was there even a town so named? My gg grandfather, Daniel O'Connor, is listed as having been born in that town in April 1826. I cannot find it on a map, nor can I find it listed as a current listing. Can anyone help?? SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 2. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 3. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 4. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (CARADOC28@aol.com) 5. Re: D.N.A. Testing Question (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 6. Re: My DNA tests (Helen Templeton) 7. Re: My DNA tests (MonicaBOS@aol.com) 8. Re: My DNA tests (CARADOC28@aol.com) From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:03:33 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list and i have a database of 155,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2 so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary Now you have the females decended from Mary Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters. these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir. but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find. I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be genealogy never is Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:32:15 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:38:30 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: Wow, Jim. That is really interesting, although it took me numerous readings to finally understand it. My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I found your email very informative. I have been wondering about the whole DNA thing too. Toying with getting it done but then just thinking of having my father do it. Now I might do both, unless somebody can come up with information on it really not being all that useful................................. Here's another question. Are some companies better than others? I have read about the National Geographic DNA program. Now, Ancestry.com is "doing" DNA testing. My sister-in-law has had herself and my husband tested through another company. So these companies are popping up all over the place. I would think one would want to be tested by a company that has the most people joining that company. Yes? Am I making any sense here? And another concern for me is the privacy issue. Yeah, yeah. I know. This isn't about that. But............this could all be misused at some point, couldn't it? Do these companies guarantee that the DNA info will definitely not be used for anything else? And can they really guarantee that? I mean, hell, they cannot even seem to keep our credit card info confidential. Any decent hacker could probably get our medical records, that are all computerized now. Who knows what can be done with DNA info. Paranoia. Monica ACTUALLY AS A LIST OWNER i dont talk details on lists contact me at _Caradoc28@aol.com_ (mailto:Caradoc28@aol.com) title it DNA INFO and ask what you want in the body message THAT SAID i run the cty-longford project , and several other locations you can search any project listed below. the one i use is best and the largest Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:46:25 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question In a message dated 11/16/2007 5:32:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MonicaBOS writes: My eyes tend to cross and then shut down on most things that are science based. But once I did "get it", I am mixed dominant a learning disorder I don't consider a disability unless you talk about reparative action like typing. and I am 59 . back then why teach males to type? lol also I didn't work in a profession that used written words when you don't use it. then it rusts away.:) sorry for my typing but instead of being either logical or creative . I can be both or neither. thus I see things in a different respective we are the real au contraire Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: MonicaBOS@aol.com To: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:04:57 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] D.N.A. Testing Question I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as opposed to what company one person might be signed up with. More along the general lines of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or is this too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their DNA tested on this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has it actually helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that are supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? I have been aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, too) that were, shall we say, less than honest with the information that they would send to people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true with some of these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. Just more paranoia. Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: Helen Templeton <h.templeton@insightbb.com> CC: CARADOC28@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:25:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:04 PM, MonicaBOS@aol.com wrote: > I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as > opposed to > what company one person might be signed up with. More along the > general lines > of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or > is this > too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their > DNA tested on > this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has > it actually > helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that > are > supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? > I have been > aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, > too) that were, > shall we say, less than honest with the information that they > would send to > people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true > with some of > these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. > > Just more paranoia. > > Monica > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message From: MonicaBOS@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:38:26 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests Helen, does that mean that you had the DNA testing done for medical/physical reasons instead of for family origins reasons? I have only been looking into DNA testing for family origin connections. But I would imagine that the testing you had done could also be used for family searches? Or no? Are these two completely separate kinds of DNA testing where one could not be used for the other? Monica ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From: CARADOC28@aol.com CC: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com To: h.templeton@insightbb.com, MonicaBOS@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:31 EST Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] My DNA tests In a message dated 11/16/2007 6:25:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, h.templeton@insightbb.com writes: The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen now helen if someone was doing a cty-kerry project. and if you matched another women there that gives you something very solid. either the woman is directly connected.or maybe that female dna is strong in kerry or a section of it. imagine that after that any women who matchs should look for Kerry sources OR maybe say this match with French sources came from the same women. we are just starting this its going to be really something when the 2-300,000 people world wide becomes 150 million. i found out I'm either original settlers 20-30,000 years ago , north African Berber or eygptian or jewish .imagine a gggson of a mason in Ardagh Longford 200 years ago. just let your mind deal with all the possibities Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. 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The results of my first test were so surprising that I had the second test done. These, too, were surprising because of the fairly rare mutations. These, in turn, decided me on the Full Genome Sequence (FGS) test and, there too, I have some rare mutations within my Haplogroup V. I am not sorry to have this information because, if I live long enough, there will be matches with me and sometimes I can find maternal surnames with matches. These test results are the same for my two daughters, my granddaughter, my sister's sons and daughters and my maternally related cousins. I did not do this just for me. Helen On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:04 PM, MonicaBOS@aol.com wrote: > I guess I am asking for more general answers about DNA testing as > opposed to > what company one person might be signed up with. More along the > general lines > of Jeanne in CA question of is it worth it? I am curious, too. Or > is this > too off topic to address on this list? Has anyone else had their > DNA tested on > this list? I am not asking for what companies you have used. Has > it actually > helped others to find family? And how do you know if the names that > are > supposed to be a family connection are correct and/or legitimate? > I have been > aware of genealogical companies in the past (and probably now, > too) that were, > shall we say, less than honest with the information that they > would send to > people who paid them a lot of money. This could certainly be true > with some of > these DNA companies that are popping up all over the place. > > Just more paranoia. > > Monica > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message