Interesting story. The Rose of Tralee is a contest held every year (I think). This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rose_of_Tralee or you can Google it to get additional information The Rose of Tralee festival is an international competition which is celebrated among Irish communities all over the world. The festival takes its inspiration from a nineteenth century Irish ballad of the same name about a woman called Mary, who because of her beauty was called 'The Rose of Tralee'. The words of the song are credited to C. (or E.) Mordaunt Spencer and the music to Charles William Glover, but a story circulated in connection with the festival [1] claims that the song was written by William Pembroke Mulchinock, a wealthy Protestant, out of love for Mary O'Connor, a poor Catholic maid in service to his parents. The idea for the festival came when a group of local businessmen met in Harty's bar in Tralee to come up with ideas to encourage more tourists to the town during the horse racing meeting. Led by the late Dan Nolan, managing director of The Kerryman newspaper, they hit on the idea of the Rose of Tralee festival. The competition started in 1959. The Rose of Tralee festival is now held annually at the end of August in Tralee, County Kerry, to choose a young woman to be crowned the Rose. The winning Rose is the woman deemed to best match the attributes relayed in the song: "lovely and fair". The winner is selected based on her personality and should be a good role model for the festival and for Ireland during her travels around the world. In contrast to beauty pageants, there is no swimwear section in the Rose of Tralee contest and the contestants are not judged on their appearances but rather their over-all personality and suitability to serve as ambassadors for the festival. Deb > The Rose of Tralee was Mary O'Connor. She died in 1849 and her grave can > still be seen at the graveyard in Clogherbrien. The story is here: > http://www.roseoftralee.ie/catalog/popup_story.php > > Cheers > > Neil >

Jeanne, I will be very interested to hear how your DNA testing comes out! Now, here is another question for the list. Are there DNA companies that concentrate their research on certain areas, such as Ireland? I have seen where there are some listers who have formed their own email lists that are area specific and/or family specific. Are there DNA companies or DNA lists that are Ireland specific? And does this question make any sense? Monica **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

My family came over from the Cahersiveen area to Newport RI in the 1830's to the 1850's. The matriarch (Margaret), 3 sons (John, Daniel, and Timothy Sullivan), 1 daughter (Abby Sullivan Shea), all with their families. The children were adults (Margaret and Abby may have been widows), and came with their own families at different times throughout that period. When was the last roll call? I am looking forward to the time our esteemed administrator calls for another one! -Pat. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:05:12 +0000 From: William Romanski <wdromanski@hotmail.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivans in Newport To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY137-W40E37ABD1F278A9DF83F21D2760@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have some Sullivans in Newport in my database: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wdromanski&id=I24893 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wdromanski&id=I24939 William D Romanski Rhode Island

Kathleen The Rose of Tralee was Mary O'Connor. She died in 1849 and her grave can still be seen at the graveyard in Clogherbrien. The story is here: http://www.roseoftralee.ie/catalog/popup_story.php Cheers Neil Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~waltonfamily/ http://waltonscully.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=waltonscully&view=9&rand=811478136 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Conway" <kmconway@charter.net> To: "Francis Goode" <francis@stdominics.org>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] "Rose of Tralee" > My grandmother, Mary Nolan, born in 1875 in Kilmoyly / Ardfert immigrated > in > 1996 and said she was the Rose of Tralee...and I think many others have > claimed this. However, I believed it for quite a few years. > I'm not sure when the song was written or what the history of it is. > > Kathleen > Kathleen > Researching Nolans / Flahertys, Co.Kerry; Nolans / O'Neills, Co.Wexford; > O'Donnells / McNamaras (?); Conways, Belfast; Linehans, Roscommon >

I have some Sullivans in Newport in my database: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wdromanski&id=I24893 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wdromanski&id=I24939 William D Romanski Rhode Island _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate.  Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline

My grandmother, Mary Nolan, born in 1875 in Kilmoyly / Ardfert immigrated in 1996 and said she was the Rose of Tralee...and I think many others have claimed this. However, I believed it for quite a few years. I'm not sure when the song was written or what the history of it is. Kathleen Kathleen Researching Nolans / Flahertys, Co.Kerry; Nolans / O'Neills, Co.Wexford; O'Donnells / McNamaras (?); Conways, Belfast; Linehans, Roscommon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Goode" <francis@stdominics.org> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] <no subject> > Hello Kerry folk! > > A couple of years ago I began searching for Bridget BRESNAHAN and Nora > O'CONNELL, mother and daughter, born respectively in or around Tralee > around > 1860 (plus or minus 15 yrs) and 1880 (plus or minus 15 yrs). > > The baptism records at St. John's in Tralee yielded nothing. Back in 1994 > I > even looked through the records myself. A much more skilled searcher > looked > more recently and found nothing. > > My question is: What are the names of a dozen or more towns in the > vicinity > that might be where my great-grandmother (Bridget BRESNAHAN) and my > grandmother (Nora, or Hanora O'CONNELL) might have been from. > > By the time Bridget BRESNAHAN O'CONNELL and Nora O'CONNELL immigrated to > America around 1900 (my Dad was born in Boston in 1910, and his parents > were > married in 1905 or 1906, (I have the certificate...but not in front of me) > in Boston at the Paulist Church, or St. Paul's, anyway, in Roxbury, > Boston. > > I was all excited about finding info leading to the discovery of my > grandmother's birth certificate (I'd like to get an Irish Passport, if > possible)... > But, not even a professional ancestor search could turn anything up. > > Does anyone have any clues to some other towns, names of places or > Churches > where info might be found. > > My Dad (Paul Joseph Goode, died in 1990. Born in Boston, died in Oregon) > used to say that they called my grandmother Nora "the Rose of Tralee." > So, Tralee seems to be the starting place, and so far, nothing turns up. > > My Dad was proud to be descended from people from Kerry. > > Thanks for any help you can give me. If anyone can really help, I will > fax > you the results (inconclusive as they are) from the company in Utah that > did > the ancestor search. > > Thank you! > Father Francis Goode, O.P. francis@stdominics.org > 415-567-7824 > St. Dominic's > San Francisco, CA. 94115 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Or in Colchester, Conn.? Liz In a message dated 11/26/2007 8:44:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, we4wary1s@epix.net writes: Regarding the recent Sullivan thread, did any of you have Kerry Sullivans or Sheas who wound up in Newport, RI? -Pat. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Regarding the recent Sullivan thread, did any of you have Kerry Sullivans or Sheas who wound up in Newport, RI? -Pat.

I agree Chris - but can you tell me how to to post on aol without all the appendages. Up until I started using Aol 9.1, I never had that problem. Now that I have upgraded, I get all the messages saved and saved and saved. Sure I can delete them before I post, but I would like to change the settings so it is not required. Any suggestions. Liz trying to find the settings to be able to change them....... **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Yeah Chris, And I will enter yet another plea to snip the contents of all the messages contained in the email to which you are replying. I for one do not like to have to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and then scroll some more just to read message one in digest form after I have read message 1. What's really annoying happens when people reply 3 or four times to the replies of replies so that messages from four preceding postings all get incorporated, rather than SNIPPED. SELECT AND CUT AFTER HITTING REPLY. PLEASE AND THANK YOU. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://members.aol.com/Sadie476/Thayer.html

You got my vote Jack - can you make me a resident so it will count? Liz in unusually warm Central Florida. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Do they still refer to the Lord Mayors as "Your Worship?" Is that what you're hankering after, Jack? Ray -----Original Message----- From: John L. Sweeney [mailto:sweelab@enter.net] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:36 PM To: Ray Marshall; Kerry List Subject: [IRL-KERRY] A Proclamation A CONFESSION: Jack Sweeney of Palmer, Pennsylvania "ran" for Lord Mayor of Knocknagoshel in 2000 and again in 2004 and got only 5 votes for in 2000 and 25 in 2004. Jack Sweeney of Palmer, Pennsylvania will enter the race for the position [he loves the ceremonial garb] for the 2008 race. Please, if you know anybody in Knocknagoshel, County Kerry, PLEASE ask them to cast their vote for this wonderful person for Lord Mayor so he can keep persisting and [it's all mathematical] will win the election around 2016 if things keep squaring e.g. 5 x 5 = 25 etc. over time. Love, Jack Sweeney, floor manager of the Veteran's wing of the Odd Fellows Home, Palmer, Pennsylvania. [Also, a close friend of Ray Marshall of the V.A. Hospital in Minneapolis, Minnesota] -- ( that's just South of Canada) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM

A CONFESSION: Jack Sweeney of Palmer, Pennsylvania "ran" for Lord Mayor of Knocknagoshel in 2000 and again in 2004 and got only 5 votes for in 2000 and 25 in 2004. Jack Sweeney of Palmer, Pennsylvania will enter the race for the position [he loves the ceremonial garb] for the 2008 race. Please, if you know anybody in Knocknagoshel, County Kerry, PLEASE ask them to cast their vote for this wonderful person for Lord Mayor so he can keep persisting and [it's all mathematical] will win the election around 2016 if things keep squaring e.g. 5 x 5 = 25 etc. over time. Love, Jack Sweeney, floor manager of the Veteran's wing of the Odd Fellows Home, Palmer, Pennsylvania. [Also, a close friend of Ray Marshall of the V.A. Hospital in Minneapolis, Minnesota] -- ( that's just South of Canada)

Yet another plea for listers to title their posts with meaningful headings, so the rest of us can readily decide which ones we need to look at and which ones don't concern us. For an example, today's digest listing comprised: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (LARRY MCCHESNEY) 2. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (~Gen?Digger~) 3. <no subject> (Francis Goode) 4. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (Fran Weeks) 5. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (~Gen?Digger~) Doesn't tell us anything, does it! Chris

i know my wrotomg isnt very good but stick with this I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list and i have a database of 177,000 names .Mtdna can be used to connect these people like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2 so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary Now you have the females decended from Mary Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters. these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir. but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find. I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be genealogy never is Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Dear Fellow Kerry Researchers, I wrote the original request for information regarding DNA, specifically, mtDNA testing. WOW, what responses-both on and off line. On line, some, such as Jim, have been immensely informative, and off line, some have expressed great pleasure in the results of their personal testing. I think we have all benefitted from this exchange. Thank you. As a result of my own research, many responses received and workshops attended, I have decided on a company and have received the test kit. I chose a relatively inexpensive standard package for mtDNA HVR-1, which can be upgraded at a later date. The more expensive the test, the more markers are measured. This test measures maternal DNA only. For those of you who are not familiar with all of this, men are able to test for both maternal and paternal DNA because they contain both X and Y DNA. We females are limited to X DNA only. To test paternal ancestry, a female needs to have a male relative (father, brother, cousin, nephew) tested. The kit includes a CD with information, a description of the project, a migration map, users guide, testing materials (sterile swab with a specimen envelope), instructions, some background information, and anticipated expectations. I can trace my female ancestors in Ventry, County Kerry to the late 1700's and am curious to gain further information. I sent in my sample last week and will be glad to report back when I receive results. Jeanne Baldwin Dick & Jeanne Baldwin Sacramento, CA

A PROCLAMATION By the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor of the City of Dublin. WHEREAS great Numbers of idle Vagabonds and vagrant Beggars, of both Sexes, with a Number of clamorcus Children, are observed to strole about the Streets, and this City is become the common Receptacle of Objects, disfigured and frightful, as well as pretending to be miserable, from all Parts of the Kingdom. And whereas, upon Application to the Governors of the Work-house of this City, they have granted out of their Fund a Supply, for maintaining and employing in Bridewel such Beggars as shall be apprehended and sent thither by my Order, which is now fitted up for their Reception; and all Children of such Beggars will be received into the Work-house, in order to be bred up Protestants, and to Industry. In order to carry the said Scheme effectually into Execution, I do hereby require and command all Constables of this City, Beadles and Constables of the several Parishes of this City, from and after the 10th of November next, to seize upon and take up all Beggars of both Sexes and of all Ages, who shall be found begging and asking Alms in any Part of this City without Badges; and all Shoe-boys and idle vagrant Persons, who shall not betake themselves to Labour, and have no visible Way of getting a Livelihood, and bring them before me, so as they may be committed to Bridewel, and be kept to hard Labour; and I hereby command all such Beggars, &c. to depart from this City before the said Day, for if any be found begging after, they shall be punished with the utmost Rigour of the Law. And as such Beggars are injurious to the Inhabitants of this City, and as the Law has directed and enabled every Housekeeper and Inhabitant of this City, to command the Beadle and Constable of his Parish, under the Penalty of Twenty Shillings, to seize and take up such Beggars. I require that every Housekeeper and Inhabitant, but more particularly the Church Wardens, Sidesmen, and Directors of the Watch, in the several Parishes of this City, will give their Assistance to the Execution of this good Design, and return to me the Names of such Beadle or Constable as shall refuse to obey their Commands in Execution of the same, that I may punish them accordingly. Given at the Tholsel Chamber, the 20th Day of October, 1764. BENJAMIN GEALE. [God Save the King.] Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Thank you, Terrae, for your reply! I am astounded at the number of O'Connors/Connors that married into Sullivan families in that area...were they of the same social standing or perhaps living on neighboring farms? Could it have been that the O'Connor men were unbelievably handsome and the Sullivan girls unbelievably beautiful I'm still on the hunt for James and his forebears, as well as a link to the Somervilles - whom I have traced back to 1735. It is a thrilling trip to find family....I love every minute of it! SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (LARRY MCCHESNEY) 2. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (~Gen?Digger~) 3. (Francis Goode) 4. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (Fran Weeks) 5. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 (~Gen?Digger~) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:39:49 -0800 (PST) From: LARRY MCCHESNEY <mcchesney1950@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) From: "Donna Marstrander" To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He later married a Julia Shea. Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anneke Hubert" > To: > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea > Hello, > I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John > Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. > > Their children are: > > CHILDREN: > 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; > > 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, > b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; > 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. > Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; > > > With kind regards, > Anneke > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > -- Donna Louise Marstrander To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:54:01 -0800 From: ~Gen°Digger~ <GenDigger@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 To: "'LARRY MCCHESNEY'" <mcchesney1950@verizon.net>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Hi Larry, Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a Hannah Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was handed down within my specific Sullivan line. Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of luck however in your search. Happy hunting! Terrae Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) From: "Donna Marstrander" To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He later married a Julia Shea. Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anneke Hubert" > To: > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea > Hello, > I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John > Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county Kerry. > > Their children are: > > CHILDREN: > 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; > > 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, > b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; > 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. > Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; > > > With kind regards, > Anneke > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > -- Donna Louise Marstrander To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:55:27 -0800 From: Francis Goode <francis@stdominics.org> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] <no subject> To: "irl-kerry@rootsweb.com" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Hello Kerry folk! A couple of years ago I began searching for Bridget BRESNAHAN and Nora O'CONNELL, mother and daughter, born respectively in or around Tralee around 1860 (plus or minus 15 yrs) and 1880 (plus or minus 15 yrs). The baptism records at St. John's in Tralee yielded nothing. Back in 1994 I even looked through the records myself. A much more skilled searcher looked more recently and found nothing. My question is: What are the names of a dozen or more towns in the vicinity that might be where my great-grandmother (Bridget BRESNAHAN) and my grandmother (Nora, or Hanora O'CONNELL) might have been from. By the time Bridget BRESNAHAN O'CONNELL and Nora O'CONNELL immigrated to America around 1900 (my Dad was born in Boston in 1910, and his parents were married in 1905 or 1906, (I have the certificate...but not in front of me) in Boston at the Paulist Church, or St. Paul's, anyway, in Roxbury, Boston. I was all excited about finding info leading to the discovery of my grandmother's birth certificate (I'd like to get an Irish Passport, if possible)... But, not even a professional ancestor search could turn anything up. Does anyone have any clues to some other towns, names of places or Churches where info might be found. My Dad (Paul Joseph Goode, died in 1990. Born in Boston, died in Oregon) used to say that they called my grandmother Nora "the Rose of Tralee." So, Tralee seems to be the starting place, and so far, nothing turns up. My Dad was proud to be descended from people from Kerry. Thanks for any help you can give me. If anyone can really help, I will fax you the results (inconclusive as they are) from the company in Utah that did the ancestor search. Thank you! Father Francis Goode, O.P. francis@stdominics.org 415-567-7824 St. Dominic's San Francisco, CA. 94115 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:16:39 -0500 From: "Fran Weeks" <fifi36@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Hi Larry, I read your posting to Terrae, and please excuse me for jumping in here but I don't think Terrae would mind. I have Loads of Hannahs in my Sullivans of Tralee, County Kerry, and this family was intrinsically tied to both CONNOR and O'CONNOR families of the area. I don't have time right now to look up James, but I will if you request it. Regards, Fran Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "~Gen°Digger~" To: "'LARRY MCCHESNEY'" ; Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > Hi Larry, > > Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my > family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given > name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to > be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a > Hannah > Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was > handed down within my specific Sullivan line. > > Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of > luck however in your search. > > Happy hunting! > > Terrae Sullivan > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > > I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James > Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? > > irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) > From: "Donna Marstrander" > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 > > I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He > later married a Julia Shea. > Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. > > On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Anneke Hubert" >> To: >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea >> Hello, >> I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John >> Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county > Kerry. >> >> Their children are: >> >> CHILDREN: >> 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; >> >> 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, >> b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. >> Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> >> >> With kind regards, >> Anneke >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> > > > -- > Donna Louise Marstrander > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:26:36 -0800 From: ~Gen°Digger~ <GenDigger@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Hahahaha Fran... nope... don't mind at ALL! ;o) Terrae -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran Weeks Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:17 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 Hi Larry, I read your posting to Terrae, and please excuse me for jumping in here but I don't think Terrae would mind. I have Loads of Hannahs in my Sullivans of Tralee, County Kerry, and this family was intrinsically tied to both CONNOR and O'CONNOR families of the area. I don't have time right now to look up James, but I will if you request it. Regards, Fran Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "~Gen°Digger~" To: "'LARRY MCCHESNEY'" ; Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > Hi Larry, > > Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my > family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given > name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to > be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a > Hannah > Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was > handed down within my specific Sullivan line. > > Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of > luck however in your search. > > Happy hunting! > > Terrae Sullivan > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > > I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James > Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? > > irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) > From: "Donna Marstrander" > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 > > I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He > later married a Julia Shea. > Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. > > On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Anneke Hubert" >> To: >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea >> Hello, >> I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John >> Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county > Kerry. >> >> Their children are: >> >> CHILDREN: >> 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; >> >> 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, >> b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. >> Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> >> >> With kind regards, >> Anneke >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> > > > -- > Donna Louise Marstrander > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

There is a reference to "Father Morgan's Lane" in Tommy O'Connor's book "Ardfert in Times Past". Does anyone know where that road was?? I contacted the author and he has no knowledge of it. Doug

Hi Larry, I read your posting to Terrae, and please excuse me for jumping in here but I don't think Terrae would mind. I have Loads of Hannahs in my Sullivans of Tralee, County Kerry, and this family was intrinsically tied to both CONNOR and O'CONNOR families of the area. I don't have time right now to look up James, but I will if you request it. Regards, Fran Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "~Gen°Digger~" <GenDigger@comcast.net> To: "'LARRY MCCHESNEY'" <mcchesney1950@verizon.net>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > Hi Larry, > > Unfortunately, I do not have a Hannah Sullivan / James Connor union in my > family tree. I have seen a lot of Sullivan families that have the given > name of Hannah in them, but mine is not one of them, sorry. That seems to > be a common Irish female name that is handed down, but I do not see a > Hannah > Sullivan anywhere in my tree, so was evidently not a family name that was > handed down within my specific Sullivan line. > > Sorry I could not help you with your connection! I wish you the best of > luck however in your search. > > Happy hunting! > > Terrae Sullivan > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LARRY MCCHESNEY > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:40 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 318 > > I have a Hannah Sullivan born around 1799 in Co. Kerry who married James > Connor (b. 1801) also from Co. Kerry - any relation? > > irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 (Donna Marstrander) > From: "Donna Marstrander" <donna@marstrander.com> > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:54:23 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 317 > > I am searching for a Michael Sullivan b.around that time as well. He > later married a Julia Shea. > Do you have information on your Michael Sullivan you could share with me. > > On Nov 22, 2007 3:04 AM, wrote: > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Sullivan/Shea (Anneke Hubert) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Anneke Hubert" >> To: >> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:10:46 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea >> Hello, >> I'm searching for the place of birth and place of marriage of John >> Sullivan and Mary Shea. They were married in ??? 1821 probably county > Kerry. >> >> Their children are: >> >> CHILDREN: >> 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; >> >> 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, >> b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; 5. Daniel E. >> Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; >> >> >> With kind regards, >> Anneke >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> > > > -- > Donna Louise Marstrander > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >