Hi Here is a great site. Irish Life and Lore. Many Kerry CD's http://www.irishlifeandlore.com Good Luck searching Bridget ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

In a message dated 12/4/2007 12:53:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com writes: Does anyone know when Kerry will come online? A matter of weeks, months, or years? Julie Hu --- Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net> wrote: > > Kerry is second on the list! > > Thanks a million, Fintan! > > Ray What about the Kerry records prior to 1911? Are they still kicking that political football around? Don in sunny & cool Winter Park, FL **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

I am absolutely delighted they are doing Kerry next, maybe I will finally find out exactly where in Kerry my grandmothers family were living in 1911. It was a nice surprise to find Kerry second on the list because I had thought they were going to do all the Cities first. Hopefully they wont keep us waiting too long. Bernie -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Marshall Sent: 04 December 2007 14:17 To: 'Kerry List' Subject: [IRL-KERRY] FW: 1911 census - Somebody has their head screwed onright in Dublin Kerry is second on the list! Thanks a million, Fintan! Ray No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: 29/11/2007 20:32

Barb My Great Grandfather Jeremiah Scully served in the army (48th Northampton Foot) in the same era, including a stint on Malta. He came from Kenmare, Kerry, not far from the Cork border. My cousin was able to obtain his army record from the British National Archives, through Tom Tulloch, a paid researcher: http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch/ I don't know what it cost, but if you would like to see samples of what might be available, I could send them off-list. Cheers Neil Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~waltonfamily/ http://waltonscully.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=waltonscully&view=9&rand=811478136 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barb Glassel" <tglassel@execpc.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:16 PM To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] More Quirky Stories Needed > Greetings, > Sure hope somebody can help the other Cheryl with that horse-jumping > connection to the Army, fascinating. What would be this great uncle > Pat's probable time frame in the Irish Army? > > We all could be submitting our own little quirky bits, and helping each > other analyze them. > > My quirky story: My grandmother's oldest brother, John MAHONEY, [b. late > 1850's - early 1860's, location somewhere near the Cork / Kerry border] > was in the British Army. My aunt recalled that he was in a special unit > with the term "Princess" or "Queen" in it. She said he was chosen > because he was the right size to fit a particular uniform, for > ceremonies! He supposedly never married, and died on Malta, after 1900. > Importance of this? It's all we know about him, no photos. He was the > only child not to emigrate to the USA with parents Cornelius MAHONEY and > Margaret REGAN. So further info on him might be my best bet connecting > to Kerry. > > Re-thinking and sharing family stories --even the trivial and > unprovable-- really could improve our Irish luck! > > Regards, > Barb Glassel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers: Just for the record, I would like you all to know and give thanks that "Library and Archives Canada" was rsponsible for helping the Irish make their 1911 Census available to the public, online and free of charge. Also, you might like to go to the following site for info on the Irish in Canada. Some info there on Killarney and County Kerry. www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/ireland Cheers to all, Violet

Hi, Irish 1911 census has gone online at http://census.nationalarchives.ie/ Regards, Fintan www.myirishancestry.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

Thanks for the story of your ancestors being coachman for Lord Ventry.? I have done some reading about Lord Ventry evicting from Dingle (my ancestors).? I am wondering if anyone knows if the estate papers of Lord Ventry are ever going to be opened for research.? A long while back I was told that they are housed in Dublin, but not available for researchers.? That was about 5 or more years ago. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Kerry <genbug@agapeinternet.com> To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb. <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 9:39 am Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] More Quirky Stories Needed Hi Barb, I'm sure that a "quirky story" I put in with my "facts" is the reason I found a cousin in Ireland. I wrote that my great-grandmother's brother was a coachman for Lord Ventry and was killed when his coach crashed during a stormy night. Someone on this board had heard the same story from a friend in Ireland and put the 2 of us together. (Thanks by the way! Was it Denis? My computer crashed shortly after and I lost all contact information with my helper and the email address of my cousin as well. I'd be happy to be back in touch on both counts.) So you never know, but it is certainly a possibility that a quirky story might just make the difference. Blessings, Kerry Re-thinking and sharing family stories --even the trivial and unprovable-- really could improve our Irish luck! Regards, Barb Glassel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003

Hi All: I think that Kerry is so high on the list is wonderful and most surprising considering all the trouble the place caused the Free Staters a bit ago. Love, Jack Sweeney, in snowy and wintery Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Hi Barb, I'm sure that a "quirky story" I put in with my "facts" is the reason I found a cousin in Ireland. I wrote that my great-grandmother's brother was a coachman for Lord Ventry and was killed when his coach crashed during a stormy night. Someone on this board had heard the same story from a friend in Ireland and put the 2 of us together. (Thanks by the way! Was it Denis? My computer crashed shortly after and I lost all contact information with my helper and the email address of my cousin as well. I'd be happy to be back in touch on both counts.) So you never know, but it is certainly a possibility that a quirky story might just make the difference. Blessings, Kerry Re-thinking and sharing family stories --even the trivial and unprovable-- really could improve our Irish luck! Regards, Barb Glassel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kerry is second on the list! Thanks a million, Fintan! Ray Future plans The records for 1911 are being digitised first, then those for 1901. The order in which counties will be made available, starting in December 2007, with 1911, is: * Dublin * Kerry * Antrim & Down * Donegal * Cork * Wexford * Galway * King's County (Offaly) * Limerick * Mayo * Waterford * Armagh * Carlow * Cavan * Clare * Fermanagh * Kildare * Kilkenny * Leitrim * Londonderry (Derry) * Longford * Louth * Meath * Monaghan * Queen's County (Laois) * Roscommon * Sligo * Tipperary * Tyrone * Westmeath * Wicklow -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fintan Sheehan Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:32 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] 1911 census Hi, Irish 1911 census has gone online at http://census.nationalarchives.ie/ Regards, Fintan www.myirishancestry.com

Does anyone know when Kerry will come online? A matter of weeks, months, or years? Julie Hu --- Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net> wrote: > > Kerry is second on the list! > > Thanks a million, Fintan! > > Ray > > > > Future plans > > The records for 1911 are being digitised first, then > those for 1901. The > order in which counties will be made available, > starting in December > 2007, with 1911, is: > > * Dublin > * Kerry > * Antrim & Down > * Donegal > * Cork > * Wexford > * Galway > * King's County (Offaly) > * Limerick > * Mayo > * Waterford > * Armagh > * Carlow > * Cavan > * Clare > * Fermanagh > * Kildare > * Kilkenny > * Leitrim > * Londonderry (Derry) > * Longford > * Louth > * Meath > * Monaghan > * Queen's County (Laois) > * Roscommon > * Sligo > * Tipperary > * Tyrone > * Westmeath > * Wicklow > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Fintan Sheehan > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:32 AM > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] 1911 census > > > Hi, > Irish 1911 census has gone online at > http://census.nationalarchives.ie/ > > Regards, > Fintan > www.myirishancestry.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:03:55 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: [IRELAND] "You Brave Irish Heroes" - Traditional Irish Ballad circa 1840s YOU BRAVE IRISH HEROES You brave Irish heroes wherever you be, I pray stand a moment and listen to me, Your sons and fair daughters are now going away, And thousands are sailing to Americay. So good luck to those people and safe may they land, They are leaving their country for a far distant strand, They are leaving old Ireland, no longer can stay, And thousands are sailing to Americay. The night before leaving they are bidding goodbye, And it's early next morning their heart gives a sigh, They do kiss their mothers and then they will say 'Farewell, dear old father, we must now go away.' Their friends and relations and neighbours also, When the trunks are all packed up, all ready to go, O the tears from their eyes they fall down like the rain, And the horses are prancing, going off for the train.

Hi - I don't know if this qualifies as a "quirky" story or not, but my English grandmother would take a yearly trip home to the Liverpool area and add the Isle of Man as a side trip on occasion. Each time she came home, she would open a small envelope and show us her Irish Sweeptstakes ticket which she would then "hide" away because she said it was illegal to have it in the States. I remember many a day worrying that the police would come knocking at our front door and take Grandmom to jail! I now raise American Paint horses and when I watch them run and frolic, I always remember Grandmom O'Connor and her "illegal" sweepstakes tickets. From soon-to-be-winter Ohio, SallyAnn (O'Connor) McChesney irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: horse jumping (Fintan Sheehan) 2. Re: horse jumping (John L. Sweeney) 3. More Quirky Stories Needed (Barb Glassel) From: Fintan Sheehan <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> To: CLabre1068@aol.com, IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:16:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] horse jumping Army used to always have riders on Irish showjumping teams in 70's and 80's. Have a look around army site at http://www.military.ie/ and http://www.military.ie/army/specialists/equit/history.htm Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "CLabre1068@aol.com" To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 2 December, 2007 1:36:43 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] horse jumping The previous post reminded me of a story an uncle told. One day my great Uncle Pat took my uncle to Madison Gardens to a horse show. While admiring the horses, a man came up to my great uncle Pat and asked him to warm up the horses as his trainer was delayed. The man recognized my great uncle Pat because he was a "famous" (according to the story teller) horse jumper with the Irish Army. These are the little tidbits that I have to go by in my research. Other information I have on great Uncle Pat's immigration was that "he jumped ship" when coming to America. My question is, does anyone have information on the history of horse jumpers with the Irish Army or can point me the direction to research? Thanks, The other Cheryl in Massachusetts **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> To: "Fintan Sheehan" <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie>, <CLabre1068@aol.com>, <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:49:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] horse jumping Good Morning All: My mother and father took me to the National Horseshow in N.Y. City's Madison Square Garden. This had to have been in the 1950's, I think I might have been in High School, ? ca. 1952 ?. There was competition in jumping between several nations, Ireland one of them. That evening Ireland won and its national anthem was played while the tricolor brought to a prominent position. I remember the crowd standing while The Soldier's Song was played and still remember the look of great joy and pride on my father's face. I think one of the Irish riders was a Captain Tubrity, they were all from Ireland's Army and mounted on very large, beautiful horses. Love, Jack Sweeney in cold and icy Palmer, Pennsylvania. From: Barb Glassel <tglassel@execpc.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:16:36 -0600 Subject: [IRL-KERRY] More Quirky Stories Needed Greetings, Sure hope somebody can help the other Cheryl with that horse-jumping connection to the Army, fascinating. What would be this great uncle Pat's probable time frame in the Irish Army? We all could be submitting our own little quirky bits, and helping each other analyze them. My quirky story: My grandmother's oldest brother, John MAHONEY, [b. late 1850's - early 1860's, location somewhere near the Cork / Kerry border] was in the British Army. My aunt recalled that he was in a special unit with the term "Princess" or "Queen" in it. She said he was chosen because he was the right size to fit a particular uniform, for ceremonies! He supposedly never married, and died on Malta, after 1900. Importance of this? It's all we know about him, no photos. He was the only child not to emigrate to the USA with parents Cornelius MAHONEY and Margaret REGAN. So further info on him might be my best bet connecting to Kerry. Re-thinking and sharing family stories --even the trivial and unprovable-- really could improve our Irish luck! Regards, Barb Glassel To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

Greetings, Sure hope somebody can help the other Cheryl with that horse-jumping connection to the Army, fascinating. What would be this great uncle Pat's probable time frame in the Irish Army? We all could be submitting our own little quirky bits, and helping each other analyze them. My quirky story: My grandmother's oldest brother, John MAHONEY, [b. late 1850's - early 1860's, location somewhere near the Cork / Kerry border] was in the British Army. My aunt recalled that he was in a special unit with the term "Princess" or "Queen" in it. She said he was chosen because he was the right size to fit a particular uniform, for ceremonies! He supposedly never married, and died on Malta, after 1900. Importance of this? It's all we know about him, no photos. He was the only child not to emigrate to the USA with parents Cornelius MAHONEY and Margaret REGAN. So further info on him might be my best bet connecting to Kerry. Re-thinking and sharing family stories --even the trivial and unprovable-- really could improve our Irish luck! Regards, Barb Glassel

Good Morning All: My mother and father took me to the National Horseshow in N.Y. City's Madison Square Garden. This had to have been in the 1950's, I think I might have been in High School, ? ca. 1952 ?. There was competition in jumping between several nations, Ireland one of them. That evening Ireland won and its national anthem was played while the tricolor brought to a prominent position. I remember the crowd standing while The Soldier's Song was played and still remember the look of great joy and pride on my father's face. I think one of the Irish riders was a Captain Tubrity, they were all from Ireland's Army and mounted on very large, beautiful horses. Love, Jack Sweeney in cold and icy Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Army used to always have riders on Irish showjumping teams in 70's and 80's. Have a look around army site at http://www.military.ie/ and http://www.military.ie/army/specialists/equit/history.htm Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "CLabre1068@aol.com" <CLabre1068@aol.com> To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 2 December, 2007 1:36:43 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] horse jumping The previous post reminded me of a story an uncle told. One day my great Uncle Pat took my uncle to Madison Gardens to a horse show. While admiring the horses, a man came up to my great uncle Pat and asked him to warm up the horses as his trainer was delayed. The man recognized my great uncle Pat because he was a "famous" (according to the story teller) horse jumper with the Irish Army. These are the little tidbits that I have to go by in my research. Other information I have on great Uncle Pat's immigration was that "he jumped ship" when coming to America. My question is, does anyone have information on the history of horse jumpers with the Irish Army or can point me the direction to research? Thanks, The other Cheryl in Massachusetts **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

The previous post reminded me of a story an uncle told. One day my great Uncle Pat took my uncle to Madison Gardens to a horse show. While admiring the horses, a man came up to my great uncle Pat and asked him to warm up the horses as his trainer was delayed. The man recognized my great uncle Pat because he was a "famous" (according to the story teller) horse jumper with the Irish Army. These are the little tidbits that I have to go by in my research. Other information I have on great Uncle Pat's immigration was that "he jumped ship" when coming to America. My question is, does anyone have information on the history of horse jumpers with the Irish Army or can point me the direction to research? Thanks, The other Cheryl in Massachusetts **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

I don't know the details, but I sense that the "Encumbered Estates Court" in England (and Ireland) dealt with bankruptcies of the landlords. Particularly during the Famine, 1846-50 or thereabouts, and most particularly during the Land Wars during the 1870s and later when the Land League was very active, when tenants were not paying their rents and tithe payments because they didn't want to or because they couldn't, many formerly prosperous landlords ended up in court. Ultimately this was the cause of the land distribution program set up by the English Parliament about 1900 that had government finance the purchase of properties held by lessors who ended up as owners while paying far less than their previous lease payments. This is an interesting document from County Mayo in 1850, right after the Famine. "The Land question in Ireland was ultimately defused by a series of Irish Land Acts, beginning in 1870 and continuing until 1927. These acts allowed tenants first to attain extensive property rights on their leaseholdings and then to purchase their land off their landlords via government loans. The traditional view of the Land War in Ireland has been of the overthrow of a tyrannical landed class. However, recent research has suggested that many Landlords in the late 19th century in fact had a progressive attitude towards their estates and tenants. In addition, it is claimed that the bigger farmers were the main beneficiaries of the Land Acts, as the small farmers' holdings, especially in the west, were uneconomic as private farms." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_War Ray Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 07:20:50 -0600 From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@celticcousins.net> Subject: [IRELAND] Ballina Chronicle; Oct 16, 1850; Incumbered Estates BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Co. Mayo Wednesday, October 16, 1850 Mr. Thomas O'Brien of Fairfield, county Galway, whose property is in the Encumbered Estates Court, has published an address to his tenantry that he will resist the entrance of any purchaser with parliamentary title, into the possession of his lands and calls on the people to stand by him! ------------------- COUNTY MAYO IN THE COURT OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SALE OF INCUMBERED ESTATES IN IRELAND. Sale on the 6th Day of December, 1850 In the matter of the Estate of Sir William O'Malley, Knight, Owner, Exparte Christopher Fitzsimon, Esquire, and others, Petitioners. PURSUANT to the order of the Commissioners, made in this matter, bearing the date the 20th day of March, 1850, they will on FRIDAY, the 6th day of DECEMBER next, at the hour of twelve o'clock noon, at their Court, No. 14, Henrietta-street Dublin, SELL BY AUCTION, THE FEE SIMPLE AND INHERITANCE Of and in the Towns and hands of ROSMUNA NORTH, ROSMUNA MIDDLE, and ROSMUNA SOUTH, containing 54A: 2R: 24P, late Irish measure, equal to 88A: 2R: 4P statute measure, situate in the barony of Burrishoole, and County of Mayo. Dated this 28th day of September, 1850. HENRY CAREY, Assistant Secretary. The several tenants on this property are subject to the tithe rent charge, amounting to ?2.4s.6d yearly. The lands have been valued, under Ordnance valuation at ?56.12s.8d., exclusive of about 23 acres statute measure (in one lot) which are unlet and in possession of the owner. The value of this lot, according to the Ordnance survey, is about ?14 per annum. The property, a peninsula in Clew Bay, is within about 2 1/2 miles of the town of Westport. There is an oyster bank attached to the property. The bays surrounding it about with almost every description of fish. A fishing station, which could not fail to return considerable profit, might be established here, at very trifling expense. The shores yield a sufficient supply of seaweed, not only for the culture of the land, but also for the manufacture of kelp. There is a limestone quarry on the lands, containing the very finest description of stone. There is also spring water noted for its purity. The tenant's cottages are neat and comfortable. This is a favourite resort for bathers during the summer season. To a nobleman or gentleman desirous to purchase property, to the capitalist seeking a secure investment with a certainty of increase, or to a party desirous of erecting a summer residence, this estate presents an opportunity seldom to be met with. The tenants' leases are lodged in court, and will be handed to the respective purchasers. For rentals, maps, and all other information, apply at the office of the Commissioners, No. 14, Henrietta-street, Dublin, or to DAVID MAHONEY, Solicitor having the carriage of this order for sale, No. 2, Kildare-street, Dublin; or to NEAL DAVIS, Solicitor for the Owner, No. 45, Upper Rutland-st., Dublin, or Castlebar; to whom any person wishing to purchase by private contract may make application in writing, which will be submitted to their examinations. -------------------------- SALE OF INCUMBERED ESTATES IN IRELAND NOTICE TO CLAIMANTS AND INCUMBRANCERS In the matter of the Estate of Martin D'Arcy, Owner, Exparte John Barton, Thomas Mooney, and Solomon Watson. Petitioner. WHEREAS by an absolute Order, bearing date the 28th day of September 1850, it was ordered that the Lands of Ballykine, comprising the denominations of Lower Ballykine, Aghlahard, Lower Drummeen, Middle Drummeen, Upper Drummeen, Cregtoberapotta, Cregtoberapotta and Ballykine, Gurteenroe and Ballykine, situate in the Barony of Kilmain, and COUNTY OF MAYO, held in fee; the lands of Houndswood, otherwise Kiltemadra, Funshunagh and Clohercartagh, Ballyhall, Woodpark East, Wookpark West and Polawella, Turlogh Village, Lisnamuck North, Lisnamuck South, Nadaneigh, Collaga, Collaga, otherwise Parkroe, and Tonroe, otherwise Thomruagh, situate as aforesaid, half under lease from the Bishop of Tuam; and the lands of Athyquirk, otherwise Castletown, with its several sub-denominations, situate as aforesaid, held in fee, should be sold for the purpose of discharging the incumbrances thereon: "Now all persons claiming estates or interests on the said premises, who may object to such order, are hereby informed that the Commissioners will hear any application which any such person may desire to bring before them on notice, to be served a the office, 14, Henrietta street, Dublin, within one calendar month from the date hereof. And all persons claiming charges or incumbrances on the said premises, or any part thereof, are required to lodge a brief statement of the particulars thereof at the said office, within two calendar months from the date thereof, and also to send their respective addresses, in order that they may receive notice at what time and in what manner their claims should be established. Dated this 8th day of October, 1850. HENRY CAREY, Assistant Secretary, RICHARD CATHCART, Solicitor for the Petitioners, 1067 Baggot street, Dublin. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:52:41 -0600 From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@celticcousins.net> Subject: [IRELAND] Londonderry Journal; June 1779 To: <irelandoldnews@yahoogroups.com>, <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <076301c83429$d4afe5a0$6401a8c0@cathy> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Londonderry Journal; Tuesday, June 1, 1779 Dublin. Died: in Co. Galway, Patrick Hamilton; at Loughrea, Nicholas Lynch; at Birr, Francis Rolleston; in Co. Longford, Mrs. Denny, aged 102 years; at Sligo, Mr. Hartley, aged 96 years; at Belfast, Mr. Noseda, instrument maker; at Favour Royal, Co. Tyrone, John Moutray; at Shamsany, Co. Monaghan, the wife of James Corry; on Summer hill, John Read; in King st., Eatton Stannard, student of Trinity College; in Hanover lane, Mrs. M'Cullogh, aged 102 years; in Capel st., Cornelius Wynne, bookseller. ----- Londonderry Journal; Friday, June 4, 1779 Belfast, May 28. Died: Monday last at Newry, Rev. James Moody, for 40 years dissenting clergyman of that place. Dublin. Timothy Tracy, convert to the Church of Ireland at the parish church of Monnkstown. Died: the Archbiship of Cashel. Londonderry. Married: Capt. Andrew Miller to Miss Finley, both of this city. ----- Londonderry Journal; Tuesday, June 15, 1779 Limerick. Mr. Kennedy O'Kennedy and Margaret his wife, converts to the Church of Ireland, at the Cathedral. Dublin. Bankrupt. Paul Benson, Corke; James Doyle, Dublin; Thomas King, Newtown Lemavady. Londonderry. Died: In Dublin, George Cary, age 21, of Redcastle (body was returned to Redcastle for burial). ----- Londonderry Journal; Friday, June 18, 1779 Londonderry. Died: Tuesday, Mrs. Anne, wife of John Kinnear, of Greenfield. ----- Londonderry Journal; Friday, June 25, 1779 Londonderry. Married: Yesterday, Mr. Stevens, sugar merchant of this city, to Miss Gray, daughter of Hugh Gray of Burt. ----- Londonderry Journal; Tuesday, June 29, 1779 Dublin. Married: James Scot, son of the late Baron Scot, to Miss Leslie, daughter of the late Bishop of Limerick; John Scot, the Attorney General, to miss Lawless. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:04:48 -0500 From: "geniebugged" <geniebugged@cox.net> Subject: [IRELAND] Not sure if this Ireland database a help - To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Cc: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000301c83444$a95f1360$d800fe18@BrandyOmar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://longislandgenealogy.com/Ireland/ghtindex.htm Current - October 2007 And always these to check frequently Checking land records - all counties can yield many clues http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm Great srch engine at bottom of every Here are two great sites sent in by another IRELAND-L member http://www.namethesaurus.com/Thesaurus/Search.aspx and here http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/ Fascinating variations - of surname spellings and pronunciations ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:17:30 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: [IRELAND] Ireland Trip Snippets - Summer 2006 To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <096301c83457$3cb28270$2d1ecac6@jean> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Listers -- My sister and I had the time of our lives for a month in Ireland - her treat! (Our first time there). We initially took a marvelous two-week guided Globus coach (bus) tour and then spent a week based in Limerick and a week in Dublin independently. We opted not to drive in Ireland, got around with taxis or on foot. Several e-mail friends generously offered to come and pick us up where we were staying to take us out for a day and show us the sights. Those days were extra special for us, as you can imagine! We found the Irish people to be exceptionally friendly and fun-loving. Everyone we encountered was trim. People on the street dressed very casually, had on "sensible" shoes, saved "dressing up" for the evenings out. My sister and I were exhausted by 9 p.m., so we saw very little in the way of pubs. We did get our fill of Irish music from Jury's Hotel Ballsbridge (Dublin) terrific Cabaret show and an excellent "Riverdance" matinee, etc. We especially enjoyed visiting with the elderly. In Northern Ireland, Peter HUTTON was enjoying the unseasonably warm weather with his dog Tyson. He seemed delighted to have someone to talk to, claimed to be in his 90s and said he lived on Abercorn Rd, Derry City. Another darling gentleman was Terrence BOYLAN, who we found seated on a rock wall near where the poet William Butler YEATS is buried at Drumcliff, Co. Sligo, his loyal dog "Rover" at his feet. I believe Mr. BOYLAN was in his 80s. I asked him if he knew where Drumshanbo, Co. Leitrim was, where my redheaded Catholic Irish FORD/FORDE's came from. He said it was nearby. We took their names and addresses and have sent along their promised photographs. We did not have any trouble understanding the Irish speaking English in our travels unless they spoke rapidly. One darling elderly lady whose surname was MURPHY (who we spoke to in a tea room) had to repeat her surname three times before we caught it. She had just a little different way of pronouncing it. Can't remember what little village we were in, at that time. She graciously allowed us to take her picture, too. I discovered I was mispronouncing many places I had read about, such as the Cliffs of Moher (pron. "more.") and Fermanagh (pron. "fermagh"). Donegal is prounced Don-e-GALL, with the final syllable said louder and on a higher note. We visited wonderful museums and great houses. Enjoyed so much the thatched cottages, although found the burning peat a bit strong. Ireland's scenery is breathtaking, and because the culture is so ancient there is something interesting to see around every corner! That, together with the Irish peoples genuine friendliness, made our whole Ireland experience the trip of a lifetime! We caught a "Riverdance" matinee at the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin, which was excellent! Interestingly, the last half of the show included dancers and singers from other cultures, such as Spain, etc., and there was a wonderful tap dancing "duel" between the Irish step dancers and two marvelous African-American tap dancers! We also enjoyed an all-Gaelic production about the Blasket islands on our tour. The programme gave us all we needed to know about the story line, and the acting and music was superb! We didn't attempt to visit any islands except for a very short and calm trip to Garinish Island with its lovely tropical plants. In fact, we saw many palm trees growing in moderate-climate Ireland! We nearly were run over twice in Dublin. Pedestrians need to watch what they are doing. Some of the streets had very helpful directions painted on or near the curb for pedestrians advising them which direction (right or left) to look first before crossing. My sis and I also locked arms and watched where we walked all the time in Ireland, as there seemed to a step where you would least expect it inside buildings and outside where one could turn an ankle. In Dublin we walked down to see the very moving famine statues near the Custom House. We also visited factories such as Beleek's pottery in Co. Fermanagh where I purchased a darling bunny for a daughter's collection. I also bought some lovely gemstone earrings as gifts at the Connemara Marble Industries in Moycullen, Co. Galway. My sis and I also chose matching necklaces at Waterford Crystal Co., darling little old-fashioned "pocketbooks" made with shiny crystals. The skill and precision of the craftsmen in Ireland is mind-boggling. They must all have excellent eyesight, you rarely found any older worker wearing eye glasses. As part of the tour we went to a sheep-shearing farm and also to a cookery school where the lovely young Irish chef invited two fellows on the tour to make scones with her. Must have been the "luck of the Irish" in the air that day, as they turned out delicious! Her home and her grounds were beautiful. She epitomized Ireland's beautiful, feminine, soft-spoken and gracious women. Oddly enough, I spotted Everett, WA-based Rick Steves in a bar on the Dingle Peninsula; I recognized the back of his head from watching all his Ireland travel documentaries on television! He was kind enough to pose for a picture. I told him that his guide book at been our "bible." We took an independent local one-day bus tour to the Rock of Cashel in Co. Tipperary from Limerick city where St. Patrick actually had christianized a King of Ireland - a site not to be missed! While in Limerick, we went on the "Frank McCourt tour," where a guide took us around to the places mentioned in the author's lovely memoir, "Angela's Ashes." Visited beautiful Muckross House in Killarney National Park and the beautiful gardens. Queen Victoria slept there on a visit to Ireland. Enjoyed a jaunting car ride in the rain through Killarney National Park on the only day it rained the whole month we were there. We couldn't have cared less, just popped open our umbrellas; the rain made the experience even more "Irish." Ireland was so green and the air so fresh! Speaking of gardens, Powerscourt in Co. Wicklow is one of the most world-famous formal gardens and rightly so! Not to be missed! An e-mail friend took us to the Rathmines Writers (poetry) workshop where they were surprised that I was familiar with some of their names and their poetry. It was a very special evening. Earlier, she had invited us to have lunch in her flat and, because I happened to mention that my mother used to cook up rhubarb for us when we were growing up, she surprised us with a wonderful homemade rhubarb and custard dessert. That is just one example of the Irish going out of their way to make certain we enjoyed our trip. She had also amassed literature and photographs of Co. Leitrim, where our respective kin had grown up likely knowing each other! On the last day of the guided bus tour I managed to faint briefly and scare my sister at the Knappogue medieval dinner. Must have been the combination of the mead, wine, and fatigue from keeping on the go! No repercussions. Doctor in audience did check me for any signs of a transient ischemic attack, though, given my age. Overall, we experienced 99% of the places I had longed to see in a month of glorious activity! Jean ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:58:16 -0800 From: "FRANK GEBHART" <frankge@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Not sure if this Ireland database a help - To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FE63EED179B647CAA4299FE4B7581FD3@FrankPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original http://www.namethesaurus.com/Thesaurus/Search.aspx A good site, geniebugged, and I thank you for it, but it shouldn't be taken as an absolute final, last word. It gives, for example, 27 Name X- , 2910 Soundex - , and 78 Metaphone- matched equivalents to "Slowey", but doesn't find the surname "Sloan"which is a recognized variation coming from the same Celtic root. ----- Original Message ----- From: "geniebugged" <geniebugged@cox.net> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Cc: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Not sure if this Ireland database a help - > http://longislandgenealogy.com/Ireland/ghtindex.htm > > Current - October 2007 > > And always these to check frequently > > > Checking land records - all counties can yield many clues > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm > > > Great srch engine at bottom of every > > > Here are two great sites sent in by another IRELAND-L member > > http://www.namethesaurus.com/Thesaurus/Search.aspx > > and > > here http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/ > > > > Fascinating variations - of surname spellings and pronunciations > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:36:12 -0500 From: "geniebugged" <geniebugged@cox.net> Subject: [IRELAND] Hey - all things Slowey To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Cc: chris clifford <cvclifford78@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c83462$31cf7ce0$d800fe18@BrandyOmar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Waiting to hear from you / Carol and Chris to get all that I have gathered to you all - have been saving in folders and Thanx for the go ahead on Sloan as that name on the Immigration Ships CD I have - back later w/more As I find these site - the first names I check are Slowey [all sp] O'Neil [all sp] and variations of Byrnes/Burns - MY Iriosh - everyone has a GGGM Named Bridget O'Neill Mimi http://www.namethesaurus.com/Thesaurus/Search.aspx A good site, geniebugged, and I thank you for it, but it shouldn't be taken as an absolute final, last word. It gives, for example, 27 Name X- , 2910 Soundex - , and 78 Metaphone- matched equivalents to "Slowey", but doesn't find the surname "Sloan"which is a recognized variation coming from the same Celtic root. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:59:11 -0500 From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> Subject: [IRELAND] New in the IGP Archives project for Nov. To: <ireland@rootsweb.com>, <irl_archives@yahoogroups.com>, irish-mi-l <irish-mi-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: GENIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2007121165911.064987@VALUED-3253602F> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here is the list of new files added this month in the IGP Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ ANTRIM Headstone Assorted McALISTERS, unknown cem. near Larne CARLOW Newspaper London Times -Notice to Creditors, Unclaimed Dividends, 1881 CAVAN Church Baptisms at Killeshandra, Co. Cavan. SCOTT/SCOT Burials at Killeshandra - SCOTT/SCOT Marriages at Killeshandra - SCOTT/SCOT CORK Church Youghal - St Mary's, Parish Register 1665-1669 Immigration to Pennsylvania. Thomas Griffitts - 1717 Land -Encumbered Estates: Vol. 4, No. 8 - Estate of Rev. George C. NASH, Owner. Lands of Brinny Vol. 4, No. 9 - Horatio Nelson DUGGAN. Owners incl. Paul McSWINEY Vol. 4, No. 10 - Estate of Charles COTTRELL, assignee of Jane Elizabeth JEFFERS Vol. 4, No. 12 - Estate of Justin McCARTHY- OWNER Vol. 4, No. 14 - Estate of George C. NASH, Owner. Lots 1 & 2, 1857 Vol. 4, No. 15 - Estate of John Thomas Hungerford Sealy Vol. 4, No. 16 - Estate of Anna BELCHER, Tulligmore & Tulligbeg Vol. 4, No. 17 - Estate of Hill GILLMAN - Part of the Lands of ARDKILLY, otherwise SANDYCOVE Vol. 4, No. 18 - Estate of Robert BICKFORD, Liscahanebeg, Blackhorsefield & Ardmartin Vol. 4, No. 19 - Estate of Marion PEARD, Lands of Glanatore Vol. 4, No. 20 - Estate of Marion Maunsell PEARD Esq., Lands of Glanatore & Carrigeen Vol. 4, No. 21 - Estate of William McCRIEGHT, and Mary McCRIEGHT Vol. 4, No. 22 - Estate of William HUNTER, Derrygariffe, otherwise West Rogh Grove Vol. 4, No. 23 - Estate of John BOWEN, Esq. Roundhill, Barony of Kinalmeaky Newspaper Freemans Journal - 1765 Sale of Estate of Rathcormick. BARRY v TOWNSEND. Freemans Journal - 1765 Ruling on Servants DOWN Miscellaneous The examination of Colonel Donnell Magennis - 1653 DUBLIN Cemetery Crumlin Churchyard Vol 5, pgs 41-47 (Mem of the Dead) Church Clondalkin Parish - Extracts from Parish Registers St. Werburghs Church, Dublin, incl. WILLOUGHBY, WILLIAMS and SCOTT. Miscellaneous From ?The Erasmian? December 1918 ? Examination Results & "Notes on Old Boys", "The Erasmian" dated December 1918. (Vol. XVI No.1) Headstones Mount Jerome, Dublin (4 stones) KILDARE Cemetery (Partial readings) Ladychapel Cemetery Old Kilcullen Graveyard (part) Saint Mary Cemetery, Ballymore Eustace Eadestown Cemetery Kilshanroe Cemetery, Enfield Clane Abbey Cemetery, Clane, County Kildare, Bodenstown Churchyard Cemetery KILKENNY London Times 1859 - Breach of Promise (HOGAN/MAHER) ROSCOMMON Cemetery Assylinn Cemetery Estersnow Cemetery Kilcooley Cemetery Kilglass Cemetery Kilnamanagh Cemetery Kiltrustan Cemetery Very old Shankill Cemetery St.Patrick Church at Elphin Strokestown Cemetery TIPPERARY Newspaper London Times August 22nd 1881. - Legal Notice WICKLOW Headstones Calary Church Christ Church Delgany Christ Church (CoI) Delgany (Updated) Thanks to all our great contributors! Christina To submit a file: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/form.htm ------------------------------ To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Those of us who are long time visitors to Ireland can remember back to the 1970's, when they still had horse racing on the strand. Fond memories of a practice now disallowed. Apparently, it resulted in injuries to the animals, though the one I witnessed in Co. Mayo was free of that. Shades of 'The Quiet Man'..... Eileen **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:11:44 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: [IRELAND] Horse Racing SNIPPET: Horse racing in Ireland takes two main forms -- steeplechasing and flat racing. Steeplechasing began in Co. Cork in 1752. This racing over fences became popular amongst the county elites, encouraged by huntsmen and cavalrymen. The sport spread rapidly to England. The English rules were adopted in Ireland in 1864, but an independent Irish National Hunt Steeplechase Committee (NHSC) was established in 1869. Permanent courses were built at Punchestown, Co. Kildare, and Fairyhouse, Co. Meath. Popular interest in steeplechasing exploded after the First World War, following the successes of Irish horses in English racing. Irish interest in English steeplechasing remains high. Flat racing is mentioned in 14th-century manuscripts, though its roots are probably much older. During the 18th century it was both encouraged as an important aspect of horse breeding and suppressed as promoting idleness and disorder. By 1790 the Turf Club of Ireland had been founded to improve the sport by introducing universal rules. Throughout the 19th century meetings, especially those at the Curragh (Co. Kildare), drew enormous crowds. Irish racing imitated English formats. An Irish Derby was run from 1886, and an Irish Oaks from 1895. While racing standards were extremely high, prize moneys remained lower than in England. All Irish racing enjoyed a boom during the First World War due to an influx of English stock and personnel. However from 1918 civil disorders began to disrupt meetings. Eventual partition did not affect the organization of racing and, despite the association of the ruling bodies with the military and the Protestant ascendancy, racing remained popular in independent Ireland. Always of some economic importance, racing and breeding in the Irish Free State was overseen from 1945 by the Racing Board, a government organization funded by a betting levy. Though said in 1986 to be in 'a perilous financial state,' the racing industry remains a major employer in the Republic, and a considerable earner of foreign income through training and the export of stock. -- Neal GARNHAM, Senior Research Fellow, University of Ulster. Further reading -- F. A. D'ARCY, "Horses, Lords and Racing Men: The Turf Club 1790-1990," (1991). ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:13:49 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: [IRELAND] "Love Of The Horse" -- Barbara DIAMOND (contemp.) LOVE OF THE HORSE With narrowed eyes they judged the field He informed, the Grey's sire, was a great mover. She remarked, The Chestnut's dam had a sweet mouth. Red, yellow, blue, racing silks of every hue, rippled in the sunlight across the flickering screen. Around the room lay tarnished trophies. Walls, a mosaic of photographs of mares and foals. Room corners holding drifts of magazines and books, listing bloodlines. Stating what sires were standing where, and for how much. The crumbling mansion, revealing that for long years past, every spare hundred was spent on Chestnuts, Greys, Roans, Bays, and they regretted not one penny. -- Barbara Diamond, "The Leitrim Guardian"