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    1. [IRL-KERRY] Patrick Sullivan and Mary Shea - Yeah I know - which ones?
    2. Time to post my Sullivans in hopes there may be a connection to someone on this list: I have been told that mine are Cumbaw/Cumba Sullivans. They lived in Kerry on the Island of Valentia in the townland of CoarhaBeg. Patrick Sullivan married Mary Shea about 1860. Children were: Eugene, Timothy, Barry, Michael, Mary b. 1871(my grandmother), Patrick, John, and Daniel. All born between 1860-1879. Eugene came to Bridgeport, Connecticut in the 1880s and Mary followed in 1894. She had a cousin Bridget Shea who came about the same time and went to Norwich. They had relatives in various places in Connecticut including Norwich, New London and New Haven. One of their other brothers is said to have come over here also but returned to Ireland. As far as I know, all of the other siblings stayed in Ireland, but I have found no trace of the family in the 1901 census! Also, cannot find the parents and family here, so I assume they stayed in Ireland. If anyone has any connection to these Sullivans, I would love to hear from you. Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garvey/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare </HTML>

    01/19/2008 06:46:42
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Mary Sheehan
    2. molly placko
    3. Sean, I'd like to compare our Brosna Sheehans----they sure re-used names, didn't they??!!! My family line is; Barth SHEEHAN,Morto,Daniel b. 1876 (my grfa)--Of Kilmanihan West, Brosna. I have some of the Brosna records--which Sheehan line is yours? There were 2 Morto's having children in this time; Morto & Ellen (my line) and a Morto & Johanna--this line in in the IGI as well as a record of my Mary Sheehan (Morto & Ellen)--I think it is an extraction from Caseys. Morto & Ellen had 3 children: 1)Mary, b. 1874; 2) Daniel b. 1876 & Murt b 1878-79. Daniel & Mary came to Ohio in 1893; Murt stayed. On the 1901 Irish Census, Morto & Ellen had the following children living with them: Mary Barrett 'adopted dau' 1&1/2 or 7& 1/2yo John Keane 'adopted son' 7 & 1/2yo Mary O'connor 'neice' 19yo (houseservant) Are any of these name familiar?? When I visited Ireland 2 years ago I saw the Brosna RC Church records--my family wasn't there (except Murt's marriage)...and the records seemed very thin to me--like some had to be missing. Altho Knocknagaschal RC church didn't split off till 1917 I understand that the local chapel records may have gone to K'nagaschal; or maybe to diocese archives. I was unable to pursue this. Hope to hear from you--can't help but think that the Sheehans of Brosna were related somehow. Molly --- sean cotter <sjcotter@optonline.net> wrote: > Mary may have been born in the parish of Brosna ,in > Kerry.My ggrandmother was a Sheehan and she came > from there.Check the Brosna parish records. > > Good luck, > > Sean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    01/19/2008 12:08:13
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Mary Sheehan
    2. sean cotter
    3. Mary may have been born in the parish of Brosna ,in Kerry.My ggrandmother was a Sheehan and she came from there.Check the Brosna parish records. Good luck, Sean

    01/19/2008 08:49:28
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Re NZ shipping lists
    2. Margaret Lloyd
    3. Marge, I found my information on Denise and Peter's Stuff at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourstuff/OurPassengerLists.htm There are also passenger lists for Australia and New Zealand at http://www.list.jaunay.com/ausnzpassengers/ and also at http://www.angelfire.com/folk/passengerlists/ Hope that helps, Margaret Where did you find this info? Are there ships' lists to Australia and New Zealand online? I am looking for a Mortimer Golden who would have come between 1883 - 1890. If there are online databases, could you please send me the URLs to them.

    01/17/2008 07:33:05
    1. [IRL-KERRY] GRO Dublin
    2. Neil Walton
    3. Anybody planning a visit to the General Records Office in Dublin should note that it's moved from Joyce House, Lombard Street East, as I discovered yesterday afte a long walk in the rain! It's now in very smart new offices not far from O'Connell Street: Floor 3, Block 7 Irish Life Centre Lower Abbey Street Dublin Cheers Neil -- Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~waltonfamily/ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/

    01/17/2008 04:21:54
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Re SHEEHAN, LYNCH
    2. Margaret Lloyd
    3. Dear Listers, It's a long time now since I started searching for my grandmother and I have all but given up to concentrate on my grandfather's family, who have been considerably easier to trace. However, it's a new year, so I have decided to try again. I wonder if any of you could help me? Mary Sheehan was born about 1863 somewhere in County Kerry, to Daniel Sheehan and Kate Lynch. She supposedly had a younger brother who died. Mary came out to Christchurch, New Zealand in 1883 on the British Queen, where her occupation is given as "servant". At that stage the Canterbury provincial govt was offering free passages to immigrants and there were many other young women from Ireland on board, whose occupations were "servant" or "dairy maid". Mary married my grandfather Richard Lloyd of Doon, Co. Limerick in 1891. She supposedly came from Castleisland. However, I haven't been able to trace a birth or baptismal record for her there. (I realise she was born just before compulsory registration of births). She may have been born elsewhere in Kerry and come to Castleisland at a later date. I have discovered 2 possible lines of enquiy, but no proof of a link to either. The first find was the birth of a son Daniel Sheehan to a Daniel Sheehan and Kate Lynch in Dreineijh, Glanbehy (baptised in Glanbehy in 1865). This could be Mary's brother. When I visited Glenbeigh a few years ago, I discovered that the townland would have been high up in the hills above Glenbeigh -a wonderful setting, but it would have been very remote and poor. The second possibility was the discovery of a Kate Lynch married to a Daniel Sheehan in Castleisland in the 1901 Census. However, this couple seem to have been married in Castleisland in 1875, (both from Cahirciveen parish according to parish records) when my grandmother would have been 12. If this is the family, then Mary would have been illegitimate, her parents marrying only when Daniel was widowed. Each of these scenarios seems possible, BUT I can't find any evidence of Mary, herself, to prove which one (if either) is true! I wonder if anyone has any suggestions? Margaret Lloyd

    01/16/2008 11:01:14
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Re SHEEHAN, LYNCH
    2. Joan Rusk
    3. I would bet on the the Glenbeigh Mary. Joan Griffin Rusk

    01/16/2008 08:57:36
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Knuckanose
    2. Ron Baker
    3. I am searching for my great grandfather Garrett Stack who was born in Knuckanose, Kerry. I cannot find this place. Would it have changed it's name please or does anyone know of it? Thanks Barbara in Oz

    01/16/2008 04:31:32
    1. [IRL-KERRY] DOODYS IN Kerry
    2. cathy carley
    3. GDAY:) Anyone researching DOODY From Co Kerry, my direct line from Listowel Anyone have access to please to Parish Records they could check birth of a MARY JOSEPHINE DOODY Born circa 1864, Father THOMAS, Possible mother CATHERINE Thanks Any does anyone know please when Irish Archives will be researsing 1901/11 Kerry Censuses Thanks Regards Cathy:) --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now.

    01/15/2008 12:46:12
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Campbell
    2. Jan Thomas
    3. Please excuse if this has already posted. I'm having computer problems. Is anyone familiar with the Campbell name? My 3x GGrandfather William Campbell's cemetery records in Indiana Co., PA state that he was born abt. 1790 in County Kerry. I get no response from any other Campbell lists and am wondering if it is possible that it should be Derry and was transcribed wrong. Derry would make more sense for this surname. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Jan

    01/14/2008 08:12:37
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] permission letter
    2. Fintan Sheehan
    3. Letter of permission is only needed for 'public access' of microfilms of catholic church record in national library,dublin. Think this can be done on day also as library can fax bishops office directly. These microfilms are films of actual records up to 1880. Not sure what access parishes allow but as its controlled by priest or parish secretary there is no letter needed. Not sure what tralee library has but are probably transcriptions of selected parish records in o'keefe cosh mange vols. No permission needed to look at transcriptions. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Doug Yorke <dyorke@comcast.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 14 January, 2008 2:43:43 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] permission letter a point of clarification re researching Kerry Church records. The ONLY time I was asked for the "permission letter" was at the Library in Dublin. I DID NOT need permission to look at records at the Kerry County Library or at the Church (in my case in Ardfert). The letter was easily obtainable by emailing the Bishop's office at bishopshouse@eircom.net and giving them your home address. DOUG > > > Subject: > [IRL-KERRY] Contacting the Bishop via email > From: > PMcH532@aol.com > Date: > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:34:57 EST > To: > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > > To: > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > > > Good morning Jan, > > When I was going on my trip to Ireland this September I emailed the Bishop > for permission to search the church records of the Catholic parishes in both > Currow and Knocknagoshel, County Kerry. I never heard back from the Bishop or > his office and never got the letter of permission. However, I found out > that the County Kerry Library in Tralee had printed, bound versions of the > parish records and they did not require any letter of permission to look at them. > I spent a few hours there and the people couldn't have been more helpful. > > My advice would be to get the letter of permission from the Bishop to be on > the safe side but if you are in Tralee and manage to find the library (it is > very hard to find) you can have a look at them. There is also plenty of > other info available like the Griffiths Evaluation, etc, etc. > > Hope this helps. > > Pat > > > > t. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

    01/14/2008 08:02:10
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Kerry trip
    2. Maureen Gamble
    3. Hi. We've been planning to spend a summer in Kerry with our disabled son who's in a wheelchair, so I've been collecting information on disability/illness travel for a while. Assist Ireland at http://www.assistireland.ie/index.asp? locID=2533&docID=-1 has a lot of information. You can also Google "travel + Ireland + disabled" for lots of help. Even if you do not need a wheelchair, the information these sites provide can help you with quick medical assist and other helps. If your illness restricts your travel comfort in any way, be sure to ask for a larger, more comfortable car. My brother got stuck with 'standard' cars that were awful on his back. I would also suggest, for emergency purposes, that you wear a Medic Alert bracelet if you do not already have one. Also carry a "medical envelope" in your purse with a letter from your doctor that details issues an emergency room in Ireland or on the way might need to treat you. Have anyone else who travels with you carry a copy as well. In an emergency, good information is necessary. We travel quite a bit with our son and these tidbits have always been helpful. Maureen in Lakewood, CO > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:46:27 -0600 > From: "Kerry" <genbug@agapeinternet.com> > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Kerry > To: "IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb." <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000901c854d6$333c1810$a31de304@Kerry> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi y'all, > > I have found out I have some very serious health issues and my > sweet daughter wants us to take the trip I've always wanted to > take. It didn't seem possible, but since I was named Kerry for my > great-grandmother's birthplace I have always wanted to go and see > Kerry. > > We know next to nothing except that we want to go to Dingle and > that we need a passport. I guess I should have paid attention when > others have discussed it, but it seemed so unlikely we'd make the > trip, I haven't paid attention to details, I've only longed for the > same thing as others have discussed their trips and loved hearing > about them. > > So, where do I begin? Where would it be best for us to fly into? > What should we do besides rent a car and hope we can remember which > side of the road we are on? And I can remember advice to be sure to > rent from someone but be sure not to rent from someone else, but I > don't remember who. : ) > > Is there a good guide for finding B & Bs? Or is that the best place > to stay? About 10 years ago I remember knowing about a website that > showed pictures and gave information about places to stay. Does > anyone know about something like this? If we have only about 10 to > 14 days from the time we leave home till we return, what would you > suggest we do? (I suppose it would mean flying out of Dallas or > Houston to somewhere.) Are there other counties nearby we really > "should" see? (I'll admit, I'd be plenty happy to just stay in > Kerry the whole time.) > > What advice can you give? And what suggestions do you have? > > Blessings, > Kerry >

    01/14/2008 07:03:43
    1. [IRL-KERRY] permission letter
    2. Doug Yorke
    3. a point of clarification re researching Kerry Church records. The ONLY time I was asked for the "permission letter" was at the Library in Dublin. I DID NOT need permission to look at records at the Kerry County Library or at the Church (in my case in Ardfert). The letter was easily obtainable by emailing the Bishop's office at bishopshouse@eircom.net and giving them your home address. DOUG > > > Subject: > [IRL-KERRY] Contacting the Bishop via email > From: > PMcH532@aol.com > Date: > Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:34:57 EST > To: > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > > To: > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com > > > Good morning Jan, > > When I was going on my trip to Ireland this September I emailed the Bishop > for permission to search the church records of the Catholic parishes in both > Currow and Knocknagoshel, County Kerry. I never heard back from the Bishop or > his office and never got the letter of permission. However, I found out > that the County Kerry Library in Tralee had printed, bound versions of the > parish records and they did not require any letter of permission to look at them. > I spent a few hours there and the people couldn't have been more helpful. > > My advice would be to get the letter of permission from the Bishop to be on > the safe side but if you are in Tralee and manage to find the library (it is > very hard to find) you can have a look at them. There is also plenty of > other info available like the Griffiths Evaluation, etc, etc. > > Hope this helps. > > Pat > > > > t. >

    01/14/2008 01:43:43
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Sullivan/Shea
    2. Reg Volk
    3. Posting this again just in case. Perhaps from Caherciveen?: John Sullivan, b. bet 1785-1794, County Kerry? Ireland; d. 21 Dec 1881, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada Mary Shea, b. 1794-1807ish, County Kerry? Ireland, d. 15 Nov 1890, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada MARRIED: 1821 - not sure where, but somewhere in Ireland. CHILDREN: 1. Michael Sullivan, b. 1826, County Kerry? Ireland; d. abt 1860, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; m. 7 Sep 1852 to Ellen Shea, b. Bet 1826-1836, Ireland 2. John Sullivan, b. 1828, County Kerry? Ireland; d. 1887, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; m. 31 Jan 1855 to Johanna Desmond, b. 27 Feb 1827, Ireland; d. 13 May 1910, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada 3. Jeremiah Sullivan, b. 1830, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. July 1898, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; NO MARRIAGE INFO Bridget O'Connor, b. 1826, Ireland; d. 22 Dec 1910, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada 4. Patrick Sullivan, b. 1833, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 31 Aug 1914, Blind River, Ontario Registration, Ontario, Canada; m. 8 Feb 1858 to Catherine Dean, b. 1831, Ireland (no death info, sorry) 5. Daniel E. Sullivan, b. 10 Jul 1837, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 7 Sep 1926, Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan, USA; m. 1868 in Negaunee, MI to Elizabeth McKenna, b. 4 Apr 1850, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 1 Mar 1916, Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan, USA - Elizabeth's parents are: Patrick McKenna and Sarah Stack 6. Mary Sullivan, b. abt 1842, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 5 Sep 1885, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada, m. 8 Feb 1858 to Patrick O'Connor, b. 1834, Ireland; no death info, sorry - Patrick's parents are: John O'Connor, b. 1810, Ireland; d. bef. 1861; Ellen Morgan, b. 1816, Ireland (no death info, sorry) - no marriage info either, sorry. 7. Denis Joseph Sullivan, b. 16 Dec 1846, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 15 Apr 1940, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; m. 12 Feb 1874 to 1. Catherine Garvey, b. 1854, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; d. 3 Oct 1890, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Ontario, Canada Catherine's Parents: Thomas Garvey, b. 1800, County Limerick, Ireland; d. 1860, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada; m. 1850 to Mary Collins, b. 1819, County Kerry?, Ireland; d. 1907, Kingsbridge, Ashfield Twp, Huron, Ontario, Canada 2. Mary Fitzgerald, b. 24 May 1853, Pickering, Canada (she was a widower and had a daughter named Mary from her first marriage, although her daughter adopted the name "Sullivan", she was not from the union of Denis and Mary) 8. Catherine Sullivan - died an infant, 1-2 yrs old on the ship enroute to Grosse Ile, Canada. Reg Volk-Kelowna, B.C. Canada

    01/14/2008 12:44:33
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Kerry Trip
    2. Jan Daly
    3. Hi Kerry and all those other listers planning trips to Kerry. My husband and I are also planning a trip in October 2008 to Killorglin in Kerry and other parts of Ireland following the ancestral links. In my preliminary research I have found that it is necessary to get the prior permission of the Bishop of Kerry before accessing Roman Catholic parish records - even the microfilms in the National Library. I suggest that you contact the Bishop and / or the local parish well ahead if you are looking for RC records. The Diocesan web site, www.dioceseofkerry.ie <http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/> , has a good map of all the parishes and links to contact the Bishop and each of the parishes. You just have to click on the parish on the map on the Parish Index page to find the addresses. I have enjoyed this thread - lots of good tips for travelling! Regards Jan Daly Sydney, AUS

    01/13/2008 10:37:14
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Contacting the Bishop via email
    2. Good morning Jan, When I was going on my trip to Ireland this September I emailed the Bishop for permission to search the church records of the Catholic parishes in both Currow and Knocknagoshel, County Kerry. I never heard back from the Bishop or his office and never got the letter of permission. However, I found out that the County Kerry Library in Tralee had printed, bound versions of the parish records and they did not require any letter of permission to look at them. I spent a few hours there and the people couldn't have been more helpful. My advice would be to get the letter of permission from the Bishop to be on the safe side but if you are in Tralee and manage to find the library (it is very hard to find) you can have a look at them. There is also plenty of other info available like the Griffiths Evaluation, etc, etc. Hope this helps. Pat **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/13/2008 01:34:57
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 10
    2. Edel Codd
    3. I hope this doesn't go through twice - I realized after I sent it the first time that I forget to set it at plain text! > > Hi Kerry > > If you're coming to Dingle, you'd be well advised to > do your own cooking, or at least prepare your own > breakfast and a picnic lunch, as meals in Dingle are > very expensive (a bowl of soup can run you about > E4.00; a main course starts about E10.00; and > sandwiches are around E6.00, although you do get > more on the side than you would in the States). > Also, if you enjoy coffee, a flask wouldn't go > amiss, as you pay per cup; but don't miss out on it, > either, as it is quite good in places. You can buy > a cup to go in the grocery stores, but it's E1.30 > for a small cup (and I mean small!), and E2.00 for a > large one. > When you figure that the exchange rate at the moment > is roughly $1.40 to the euro, that adds up fast. > Ashe's on Main Street has lovely salads (that's all > I've eaten there so far) and the service is > pleasant. The meal will run you around E15-20 each. > The Goat Street Cafe also has nice meals. It's > small, and I paid about E15.00 for a Thai chicken > curry and a cup of coffee (espresso size) yesterday. > But I thought it was worth it for one day. The > Dingle Bay Hotel is pretty good, too, and possibly a > little cheaper, but I don't find the service great. > Maybe that's because they can't figure out if I'm a > tourist or a local! There's also a new place called > The Garden that just opened a few weeks ago on Green > Street. I've only been in once so far, but the food > was good that day (I got a huge bowl of carrot and > ginger soup for E4.00. Sounds awful but it was > delicious) and an outrageous cherry pie (which you > don't get here much, and I miss) for another E4.00, > and a generous > cup of coffee for E2.00. It must still be good, > because the place is always packed, which is why I > haven't been in again. Self-service cottages this > year were running about E300 to E600 a week from > what I heard, depending on where they were. I don't > know what they'll be next year. > > Hope this helps. > > > Edel Codd, Tralee > In Kerry/Dingle Peninsula: ASHE-Camp & > Ballyknockane, & related; BROSNAN-Dingle Town, & > related; CAVANAUGH–Holyoke, MA area (related to > BROSNAN) > In Wexford: CODD, Woodlands & Carne, & related; > FARDY, Coolboy, Gusserane, & related; PRESCOTT – > Albany, NY

    01/12/2008 09:49:31
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 10
    2. Edel Codd
    3. Hi Kerry If you're coming to Dingle, you'd be well advised to do your own cooking, or at least prepare your own breakfast and a picnic lunch, as meals in Dingle are very expensive (a bowl of soup can run you about E4.00; a main course starts about E10.00; and sandwiches are around E6.00, although you do get more on the side than you would in the States). Also, if you enjoy coffee, a flask wouldn't go amiss, as you pay per cup; but don't miss out on it, either, as it is quite good in places. You can buy a cup to go in the grocery stores, but it's E1.30 for a small cup (and I mean small!), and E2.00 for a large one. When you figure that the exchange rate at the moment is roughly $1.40 to the euro, that adds up fast. Ashe's on Main Street has lovely salads (that's all I've eaten there so far) and the service is pleasant. The meal will run you around E15-20 each. The Goat Street Cafe also has nice meals. It's small, and I paid about E15.00 for a Thai chicken curry and a cup of coffee (espresso size) yesterday. But I thought it was worth it for one day. The Dingle Bay Hotel is pretty good, too, and possibly a little cheaper, but I don't find the service great. Maybe that's because they can't figure out if I'm a tourist or a local! There's also a new place called The Garden that just opened a few weeks ago on Green Street. I've only been in once so far, but the food was good that day (I got a huge bowl of carrot and ginger soup for E4.00. Sounds awful but it was delicious) and an outrageous cherry pie (which you don't get here much, and I miss) for another E4.00, and a generous cup of coffee for E2.00. It must still be good, because the place is always packed, which is why I haven't been in again. Self-service cottages this year were running about E300 to E600 a week from what I heard, depending on where they were. I don't know what they'll be next year. Hope this helps. Edel Codd, Tralee In Kerry/Dingle Peninsula: ASHE-Camp & Ballyknockane, & related; BROSNAN-Dingle Town, & related; CAVANAUGH–Holyoke, MA area (related to BROSNAN) In Wexford: CODD, Woodlands & Carne, & related; FARDY, Coolboy, Gusserane, & related; PRESCOTT – Albany, NY

    01/12/2008 09:47:33
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Kerry
    2. PatsiGen
    3. Hi Kerry, sorry to hear about your cancer. I have been through three rounds with cancer myself through the years, but I have been doing allright for a long time now. Good luck to you! As for County Kerry, you will love it, especially if you like rural areas, as I do. My mother and I took a bus tour in September 2005. We left on the 17th and came back on the 28th. The weather was a lot like New England in September. We had beautiful days, rainy days, and sunny, but brisk days. You could get two kinds of weather in one day, but I had no complaints.The crowds weren't bad at all. If I were to go again I would again pick September. My parents had traveled to Ireland three times before this trip and always went during very busy times-May through August. The draw back to our trip was the bus. Especially in Kerry, I wanted to get off the bus at every turn or spot, but the bus kept going. Around the lakes of Killarney, I saw trails that I wanted to explore, but could only wish to as we drove by. I loved the Killarney area, but the Ring of Kerry and other places were wonderful, too. Definitely go see the Dingle peninsula, it is breath-taking. I think this is the one place I was glad to be on a bus in the hands of a professional driver, though. Some cliff roads are pretty scary. They must have tours of only Dingle in the area. I had told my mother that I wanted to go back to Ireland and only stay in Kerry, I loved it that much; but it I could be because my father's Kelly ancestors originated there, and their descendants still live there. Our trip also took us through Dublin, Cork, Waterford, and Galway. If you do Galway at all, be sure to go to Connemara and go on the Killary Harbour Fjord Catamaran ride. It was awesome. I am a little shy of boats, but this ride was dreamy through the fjord. The sites were breathtaking, and the ride was smooth and somewhat freeing to me. I felt if this was the last thing on earth I could do, I would be very happy. Here is a web site on it: http://www.killarycruises.com/ You might take a look through CIE tours itinerarys just to get a feel for what you might do with your own car. The website has a lot of Ireland tours with good descriptions, which may give you some ideas of places to visit if you decide to go out of Kerry: http://www.cietours.com/affiliate/cietours/searchresults.rvlx?travelPeriod=18 Whatever you do, may you enjoy it and may it be the best trip you every had. I don't think you can go wrong. Sincerely, ~Patsy~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <genbug@agapeinternet.com> To: "IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb." <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Kerry Hi y'all, Thank you so much for your detailed information. I am really hoping this trip "back home" will happen. One never knows in life what is before us. I am 61 (or rather will be next week) and my dd is 31, and I don't have particular health restrictions at this point except that I tire easily. I am newly diagnosed with cancer, so no oxygen or anything like that. We'd definitely be interested in flying in and out of Shannon (thanks for that information) since we are not interested in Dublin at all. We are definitely more inclined toward the rural. And I love photography, so that will be one of my main "focuses" (no pun intended) while we are there. : ) Beth, you mentioned a "self-catering cottage" sounds fascinating. Does that mean that you have your own cottage and provide your own meals? Is that easy to do? We don't want to do a lot of cooking. Is it customary to eat at pubs or restaurants or what? Trish, you said to leisurely enjoy "all you have in mind," but that is just it, we don't have anything but Kerry in mind. Flying into and out of Shannon sounds just right, and I like the suggestion of going to Berea Peninsula that Noreen mentioned. Also Noreen mentioned something about summertime. That is another question we have. What is the best time of year to go? It would be easier for us to go late spring or fall, as far as my daughter getting off work is concerned. Is summer better for traveling there? What is the weather likely to be when? And thank you, David, I'd be happy to have any information off-list that you would care to share. Also, we have a cousin in Castleisland. Her brother is somewhere else, but I can't remember where, at this point. I have it written down in my address book. I guess it is time to start getting maps and information sent to us. This has just come up, so we haven't gotten far yet at all. We got passport applications yesterday, so we'll start moving forward on that right away. I guess that might be an issue for when we can travel. This may not happen, but we are going to move ahead hoping it will. : ) All suggestions are welcome. I love this group, and my favorite postings (besides someone saying they have found family connections) have always been hearing about plans for trips and then the trips themselves. I guess hearing about the trips has always kept my dream alive that someday . . . . And a cousin of ours found church records in Dingle for all of us when she was in Kerry years ago. I'd like to go there, maybe even contact someone ahead of time, but she has died, so I can't get information from her. Is that going to be difficult to track down? Are there many churches there? Blessings, Kerry

    01/12/2008 06:13:08
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Kerry
    2. Pat Delaney
    3. Kerry Whilst Kerry is a wonderful place It would be a great pity if you did not see a little more of Ireland during your visit. I suggest a little detour maybe as follows. Having arrived at Shannon and collected your car arm yourself with a good map. Just a 10 minute drive away on the Limerick road is Bunratty Castle and Folk Park. Here you can have some food and your first pint of Guinness at Durty Nellys pub. A visit to the Castle will give you your first taste of Irish history and how previous generations lived. See Web: www.shannonheritage.com for more information.This visit would take up 3/4 hours depending on time factor. If you arrive at Shannon late at night there is a motel at the airport. After Bunratty turn around and head back the way you have come towards Ennis and turn left there for Ennistimon and the Cliffs of Moher - as must see. Depart here and head for Lisdoonvarna (they have a yearly festival here attended by all bachelors in Ireland looking for a wife). This road will take you through the Burren and down to Galway with its beautiful Bay, Spend a night in the area? Next day depart Galway and head west towards Clifden passing through beautiful Connemara with its wonderfull rivers, lakes and mountains. Look out for the Quiet Man Bridge on the way (from the old John Wayne film, The Quiet Man, also starring Maureen O'Hara) which is just past Oughterard. At Clifden have some food in the old defunct railway station. On the way back you will have to travel through Limerick City. Here you might like to stop off for a few hours to look at the River Shannon and visit the 11th century Cathedral (St Mary's) and King Johns Castle and other sights. The above "shannon" website gives more information. The above tour could be covered in 3 days leaving sufficient time to cover all interests in Kerry. Killarney is just over a 3 hour drive from Shannon. There are thousand and thousands of Bed and Breakfast all over Ireland. They are cheap and very good value and enables visitors to be more flexible with the programme. Included in the price is an enormous breakfast which will fill you up for most of the day. The followiling website is very comprehensive; www.townandcountry.ie. If you type in "Ireland Bed and Breakfast" into the Web it will bring up many more, including the charges Having left Limerick City you might like to visit Foynes and the Museum, home of the Irish Coffee - which was first made in 1942 to warm up some damp miserable passengers.. The port of Foynes was the fulcrum point for air traffic between the US and Europe. The famous Flying Boats operated from here from 1939 - 1945. The museum is open daily and features the original terminal building and many nostalgic memorabilla. If you take the N21 road this will take you all the way to Castleisland, where your relations live. You could stay in B&B accommodation anywhere in this are and reach all parts of Kerry. A good Web site is; www.guidekillarney.com. This covers all of Kerry and provides useful information on tours, places of interest and maps. It is expensive to stay in Killarney so choose a place outside. The tourist attraction in Dingle is a Dolphin called Fungi and boat trips are arranged to see him perform out in the Bay. Apart from Killarney and its surrounding lakes a must trip is to the Kate Kearney's cottage and Gap of Dunloe; the Upper lakes and Moll's gap; The Ring of Kerry and a visit to Kenmare. September would be a good month with the charge for B&B being sometimes cheaper during this time. I hope the above is helpful and will help you with you planning. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <genbug@agapeinternet.com> To: "IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb." <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Kerry > Hi y'all, > > I have found out I have some very serious health issues and my sweet > daughter wants us to take the trip I've always wanted to take. It didn't > seem possible, but since I was named Kerry for my great-grandmother's > birthplace I have always wanted to go and see Kerry. > > We know next to nothing except that we want to go to Dingle and that we > need a passport. I guess I should have paid attention when others have > discussed it, but it seemed so unlikely we'd make the trip, I haven't paid > attention to details, I've only longed for the same thing as others have > discussed their trips and loved hearing about them. > > So, where do I begin? Where would it be best for us to fly into? What > should we do besides rent a car and hope we can remember which side of the > road we are on? And I can remember advice to be sure to rent from someone > but be sure not to rent from someone else, but I don't remember who. : ) > > Is there a good guide for finding B & Bs? Or is that the best place to > stay? About 10 years ago I remember knowing about a website that showed > pictures and gave information about places to stay. Does anyone know about > something like this? If we have only about 10 to 14 days from the time we > leave home till we return, what would you suggest we do? (I suppose it > would mean flying out of Dallas or Houston to somewhere.) Are there other > counties nearby we really "should" see? (I'll admit, I'd be plenty happy > to just stay in Kerry the whole time.) > > What advice can you give? And what suggestions do you have? > > Blessings, > Kerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2008 04:55:44