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    1. [IRL-KERRY] Fw: Cemetery Occupants!
    2. John L. Sweeney
    3. > Dearest GiGi, Noreen: > > Check the level situation of the buffet, especially front to back. > The situation has nothing to do with the locks. Your grandmother > is with you anyway, regardless of an errant unleveled buffet. > > And Noreen, your NEW house in Kerry is too NEW to have > attracted any ghosts, fairies, little people, so stop bothering > everybody with you paranoia. > > If it were an OLD house I could understand your concerns > and provide advice and counsel. > > Love, Jack Sweeney, still breathing and taking nourishment in Palmer, > Pennsylvania. >

    01/29/2008 11:21:21
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. I've been very quiet but now must add my own two cents. Our house in Kerry is finally finished and we stayed there for the first time this year and were expecting ghosts (friendly of course). Nothing came in the night but almost every morning a black cat came up the road and sat there staring at the house. Black cat or not we chose to believe it was Aunt Peg who was the last of the Teahans to reside there! She was certainly welcome! Noreen in NY **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/29/2008 08:22:52
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Whatever the reasons, the board does seem to have it's ups and downs. It becomes easier to check in rather then pull out conversation. This old geezer still does the film reading and must admit that it is getting harder on the eyes, and harder to sit still any length of time - but I still want to find those elusive ancestors. I don't know much about ghosts - haven't seen one yet. I guess we all fear the unknown, but I rather think of ghosts and friendly. People that have died under unusual circumstances and did not have time for their soul to catch up with them. If I ever find one, I would love to talk to them to find out why they are so restless. Of course, being in the old geezer age, I just hope they are not going to be coming for me to take me home. I'm not ready for that yet. Liz enjoying the warmer weather again today - back up in the 70's. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/29/2008 08:08:39
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Dan and GiGi Brakeville
    3. Noreen, I recently inherited a buffet from my grandmother who had died. The doors keep unlocking and opening - we find the doors wide open every morning. We have checked and rechecked the locks and they are fine. We both think my grandmother is with us. It does happen :) GiGi Noreen910@aol.com wrote: I've been very quiet but now must add my own two cents. Our house in Kerry is finally finished and we stayed there for the first time this year and were expecting ghosts (friendly of course). Nothing came in the night but almost every morning a black cat came up the road and sat there staring at the house. Black cat or not we chose to believe it was Aunt Peg who was the last of the Teahans to reside there! She was certainly welcome! Noreen in NY --------------------------------- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

    01/29/2008 05:48:15
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. John L. Sweeney
    3. MessageOh! Hi All: I'm glad someone explained the matter fairly incorrectly but clearly with the hint of honest intention to soften the realities. So, I am grateful for the kind intentions, though misleading. I realize the Kerry List was never shut down, quite the contrary, the contributions, inquiries and responses were "right on" with the intentions of the List to begin with. I never thought I'd "disappeared from sight" I just had nothing to say, to add, to inform, to suggest. Then [as the previous contributor posted] I "picked up" on a posting about Kerry Cemeteries and looked into the subject matter and discovered that "my" Cemetery, Knockane, was not yet included in the on-going work about Kerry Cemeteries. So, I asked, BUT I know now my question was not worded properly, it was [in reality] the sort of question with a "twist". Of course "the twist"[ mine ], was a bit tongue in cheek as just about all my questions are. The response was a better "tongue in cheek" than the question I asked and there now existed A LIVE ONE I could communicate with that [I dreamed] would be more entertaining than some of the inane crap Ray and I exchange off line. Eureka! Another priceless Subject that might approach the goings-on related to the Irish Soda Bread event of years ago. So, maybe the geezer in Minneapolis touched the truth of the matter that this "Cemetery Occupants" subject was another to "react" to. Knocknagoshel was mentioned as a reason for the flurry of bantering going on right now, and the fellow is correct. It is ONE of the reasons. Microfilm reading is not a viable reason though, I don't do such a thing. "Geezers like us" probably lumps us all [ not just Ray and Jack ] into a catagory that is befitting those of us who love the ability of entertaining and most valuable that of being entertained. And, coincidently, providing spurts of interest in another of the goals of the Kerry List, that of being of assistance to those of us trying to find out about those wonderful people who are our ancestors. It seems to be OK that some of us are "fearful" of ghosts afterall all of us have other than pure Kerry blood in us. Heights are nothing to be fearful of though, there are photographs and TV images of mountains and planets. Anacondas frighten everybody, even those in movies that are computer enhanced images. Saber toothed tigers really is a reach to be something to be afraid of since they all left this Earth around the time of the Civil War. Gallowglass terrorists haven't been in business since there was no money in it, and that was over 700 years ago. I can empathize with the sharp broadaxes though, mine is rather dull but I do remember when it was sharp. Of course, then I could actually swing it, now it's rusty and dull and just sits in a corner of the basement. Love, Jack Sweeney, about to knock off for the night, have a cup of hot chocolate with marshmallow in Palmer, Pennsylvania.

    01/28/2008 04:23:31
    1. [IRL-KERRY] DNA
    2. I may be mistaken but I believe the current testing to determine whether someone is related can be done only on the paternal line, e.g. males with the same surnames. So the situation described earlier, where there are some women in the lineage, wouldn't work because you're tracking Y chromosomes, which women do not have. The alternative is mitochondrial DNA, which we all get from our mothers. So, in such a case, the lineage would be my mother to her mother to her mother, etc. Is this correct? -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 7:07 pm Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24 Today's Topics: 1. Kerry Trip - April (Jeanne Reilly) 2. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 (mldanahy@olemiss.edu) 3. DNA (Sandy Stegmayer) 4. Re: DNA (Helen Templeton) 5. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Ray Marshall) 6. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) 7. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Ray Marshall) 8. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) 9. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Dan and GiGi Brakeville) 10. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (Lizziems@aol.com) 11. Re: Cemetery Occupants! (John L. Sweeney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:03:10 -0500 From: "Jeanne Reilly" <reillja@ec.rr.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry Trip - April To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c861b6$8433f980$6801a8c0@DGS6L391> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My husband and I are travelling to Kerry April 18th thru April 27and I wanted to get some advice as to how we should dress for that time of the year. Also has anyone had any experience renting a cell phone for use while traveling in Ireland. Thank you. Jeanne ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:10:20 -0600 From: mldanahy@olemiss.edu Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <479dfe6c.1ca.f9e.30430@olemiss.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dearest Jack , Please be assured with regard to the population of that cemetery that none of the original inhabitants has moved. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:14:02 -0500 From: "Sandy Stegmayer" <ssteg@comcast.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] DNA To: "kerry list" <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003a01c861ea$53a56950$6401a8c0@sandy3bb23bedb> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Listers, Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common ancestor. As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular lab was ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab would be greatly appreciated. Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the connection is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes through my father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with the same surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I need to have one of my brothers be tested? Thank you, Sandy ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:32:12 -0600 From: Helen Templeton <h.templeton@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] DNA To: Sandy Stegmayer <ssteg@comcast.net> Cc: kerry list <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DFED7EC0-65F6-4BD7-9BA3-56627032D4FE@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am not an expert but I do believe that the brother will have to be tested. Males get Y-DNA from their fathers and mtDNA from their mothers. Females get only mtDNA from their mothers. HT On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Sandy Stegmayer wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common > ancestor. > As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA > discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular > lab was > ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab > would be > greatly appreciated. > > Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the > connection > is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes > through my > father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with > the same > surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I > need to > have one of my brothers be tested? > > > > Thank you, > > Sandy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:33:34 -0600 From: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, "Jack Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Message-ID: <017a01c861f5$70ca7f60$0200a8c0@adminbb3d62255> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Boy, that's a relief! Afraid of Ghosts in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mldanahy@olemiss.edu Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:10 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 Dearest Jack , Please be assured with regard to the population of that cemetery that none of the original inhabitants has moved. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:37:31 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00a601c861f5$fcb7b9c0$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:18:10 -0600 From: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "'John L. Sweeney'" <sweelab@enter.net>, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <019c01c861fb$aaed40a0$0200a8c0@adminbb3d62255> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Weeeeellllll. Family history is a different matter. While if Jeremiah Reidy should stop by some afternoon and fill me in on some of those unanswered questions that I have, I wouldn't object. But if all of a sudden a bunch of Sweeney ghosts were prowling around the back yard and premises, that might be a bit disconcerting. Or Amish ghosts full of "thee's" and "thou's" and "thine's." Maybe a good compromise might be the gift of "bi-location" for genealogists so that we could go back and chat with ancestors when they were still alive. After all, we know how doddering some geezers get towards the end of their days, so it'd be better if we could ask those questions when they were still in the prime of life and full of "vim (or something) and vinegar." Although I suppose they might be disconcerted by very specific questions about their families. We would have to rely on the old standby "I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you." Ray Still afraid of ghosts in MN -----Original Message----- From: John L. Sweeney [mailto:sweelab@enter.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:38 PM To: Ray Marshall; mldanahy@olemiss.edu; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Occupants! Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:50:02 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002501c86200$1e5b96a0$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dan and GiGi Brakeville <snoopy8u@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net>, Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net>, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <956314.27947.qm@web56015.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have to agree with Jack in all he says :) You would be amazed at what you can hear. GiGi In Virginia but packing for California :) "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> wrote: Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:26:20 EST From: Lizziems@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: snoopy8u@yahoo.com, sweelab@enter.net, raymarsh@mninter.net, mldanahy@olemiss.edu, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c57.25c4b085.34cfccac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Nice to see the boys back here bantering again. I rather missed some of the chatter. Liz in Usually Warm and Sunny Florida, presently having a few days of below normal weather. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:06:19 -0500 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! To: <Lizziems@aol.com>, <snoopy8u@yahoo.com>, <raymarsh@mninter.net>, <mldanahy@olemiss.edu>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001201c86213$28314f40$6400a8c0@your22ca86d5c4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi GiGi & Liz: It's so nice and reassuring to realize I had been missed. Actually, it was my own fault to have relinquished my passion in favor of the good sense of the likes of Ray. I'll pay more attention from now on. Perhaps change something in my diet or the stuff I've been smoking for the past few months. Love, Jack Sweeney, in very dark but not too cold Palmer, Pennsylvania ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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    01/28/2008 04:23:05
    1. [IRL-KERRY] Travel in Kerry
    2. Maureen Gamble
    3. Hello all. I would suggest, strongly, that you take a wool cap, the pull down over your ears kind. I traveled western Ireland in early June and the wind on high ground or near the ocean can go right through your skull. It also rained frequently, if not hard, and the head scarf I used got soaked. A wooly cap will bead up and dry quickly. Take gloves as well; it never hurts. Maureen in warm/freezing/sunny/cloudy Denver (it can't seem to make up it's mind around here).

    01/28/2008 02:52:38
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry Trip
    2. I got back from a trip in December, and would recommend as others have, that you layer and bring a raincoat with a zip-out liner and a good hood (my raincoat goes down to my knees, so I get plenty of coverage and was never cold.) The weather wasn't as cold as I'd expected, but it was windier/gustier than I'd planned for... umbrellas are worthless. Rather than packing a bunch of bulky sweaters, I packed long silk underwear, cotton turtlenecks, a couple of light , thermal socks and gloves. I was plenty warm (most days, I didn't even use the long underwear.) You can ALWAYS buy a great sweater while you're over there if you find you've packed too light. Also, if you keep your feet dry, you'll keep warm. Bring waterproof shoes (I have Merrells). It WILL rain while you're there. Lots. (And if you tend toward dry skin, bring moisturizer/chapstick, etc.) As for the cell phone question, consider using Skype if you're bringing a laptop. It's free if you dial computer-to-computer, and there's a nominal charge for dialing from a computer to a land line (you have to buy minutes in advance for that). I never gave it much thought before, but am a rabid proponent of Skype after the trip. The software is a quick, free, online download (skype.com). You can do it with or without a webcam (I have one built into my laptop, and bought a $30 low-end webcam for hubby on his end.) You'll need a headset with microphone (which you can get for $10-20). The sound quality is excellent, and the technology is finally ready for prime time --- no choppy delays or dropped calls or anything --- I swear, it was just like a videophone (you can Skype without video). Every hotel I stayed in had wifi, although in my Killarney hotel, they'd give you an activation code that was only good for 30 consecutive minutes, and you'd have to walk down to the front desk to get a code for another 30 minutes, which sounds like it would suck --- and it did --- but I did get to be very good friends with Moira at the front desk, and all those trips up and down the stairs helped work off the Irish breakfast. But I digress. In short, Skype rocks. HTH, Karen

    01/28/2008 02:23:26
    1. [IRL-KERRY] DNA
    2. Cheryl Dynan
    3. I have had my husband and my MIL's cousin DNA tested for their families. Unfortunately what you want from it you will not get. The DNA for what you want needs to be thru the male lines only. Women only pass on Mtdna, good for long term population tracking. There are many good web sites for genetics, I got a book called DNA and Genealogy by Colleen Fitzpatrick, Amazon.com has it. Look at these links to learn about it. Cheryl http://www.familytreedna.com/ http://blairdna.com/dna101.html

    01/28/2008 01:26:13
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Ray Marshall
    3. Lizzie I think that one of the reasons that we occasionally disappear from sight is that when we don't see anybody posting queries or tidbits of genealogical gems, we kind of assume that the list has been shut down. We need encouragement, and the best encouragement is lots of posts that we can react to, particularly regarding the Knocknagoshel area where some of our Kerry ancestors spring from so that Jack and I can concentrate on banter, rather than reading microfilm. For when one gets to be geezers like us, reading microfilm (or the books of the Casey Collection) gets to be darned difficult. It's much easier to see the keys on our keyboards and our screens (where we know how to increase the size of the type using Ctr+ ). Ray Still fearful of ghosts, but not much else, except heights, anacondas, saber toothed tigers, and of course, gallowglass terrorists with sharp broadaxes. . -----Original Message----- From: Lizziems@aol.com [mailto:Lizziems@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:26 PM To: snoopy8u@yahoo.com; sweelab@enter.net; raymarsh@mninter.net; mldanahy@olemiss.edu; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants! Nice to see the boys back here bantering again. I rather missed some of the chatter. Liz in Usually Warm and Sunny Florida, presently having a few days of below normal weather. _____ Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> in the new year.

    01/28/2008 01:25:43
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Kerry Trip - April
    2. Beth Walsh
    3. Hi Jeanne, The weather tends to be similar to the weather here (I'm in Chicago). So, I would take clothes that you can layer. It can be cold or warm and most likely rainy. As far as the cell phone, I didn't rent one the last time I was there (this past July), I just took my own. I had to call my provider (AT & T) and they activated it for use internationally. It cost either $4.99 or $5.99 for a month plus the cost of the calls. The calls back here were expensive, but the ones I made to people in Ireland weren't. The charger that came with my phone blew out, so you will have to find one here that is compatible with their electrical voltage. I thought mine was, but it wasn't! Beth Jeanne Reilly <reillja@ec.rr.com> wrote: My husband and I are travelling to Kerry April 18th thru April 27and I wanted to get some advice as to how we should dress for that time of the year. Also has anyone had any experience renting a cell phone for use while traveling in Ireland. Thank you. Jeanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/28/2008 01:10:24
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. John L. Sweeney
    3. Hi GiGi & Liz: It's so nice and reassuring to realize I had been missed. Actually, it was my own fault to have relinquished my passion in favor of the good sense of the likes of Ray. I'll pay more attention from now on. Perhaps change something in my diet or the stuff I've been smoking for the past few months. Love, Jack Sweeney, in very dark but not too cold Palmer, Pennsylvania

    01/28/2008 01:06:19
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Nice to see the boys back here bantering again. I rather missed some of the chatter. Liz in Usually Warm and Sunny Florida, presently having a few days of below normal weather. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/28/2008 12:26:20
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. John L. Sweeney
    3. Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc.

    01/28/2008 10:50:02
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. John L. Sweeney
    3. Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot.

    01/28/2008 09:37:31
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Ray Marshall
    3. Weeeeellllll. Family history is a different matter. While if Jeremiah Reidy should stop by some afternoon and fill me in on some of those unanswered questions that I have, I wouldn't object. But if all of a sudden a bunch of Sweeney ghosts were prowling around the back yard and premises, that might be a bit disconcerting. Or Amish ghosts full of "thee's" and "thou's" and "thine's." Maybe a good compromise might be the gift of "bi-location" for genealogists so that we could go back and chat with ancestors when they were still alive. After all, we know how doddering some geezers get towards the end of their days, so it'd be better if we could ask those questions when they were still in the prime of life and full of "vim (or something) and vinegar." Although I suppose they might be disconcerted by very specific questions about their families. We would have to rely on the old standby "I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you." Ray Still afraid of ghosts in MN -----Original Message----- From: John L. Sweeney [mailto:sweelab@enter.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:38 PM To: Ray Marshall; mldanahy@olemiss.edu; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Occupants! Hi Ray et al: Not sure about that, would certainly like to meet my great grandfather and his wife to find out just where they were born and who their parents were, and, where they hailed from etc., etc. back to when all the Sweeney's lived in Galway after they got thrown out of Scotland. Minnesota has an overabundance of Scandanavian folk and everybody knows how they feel about ghosts. However, most Kerryfolk are Irish who have a great deal of mutual love of "their" ghosts. It must be your Polish genes? Love, Jack Sweeney, in Palmer, Pennsylvania among the Amish ghosts who are a hoot.

    01/28/2008 09:18:10
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Dan and GiGi Brakeville
    3. I have to agree with Jack in all he says :) You would be amazed at what you can hear. GiGi In Virginia but packing for California :) "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> wrote: Hi Ray et al: See? There's a great deal of information available to those who communicate with ghosts. Unfortunately, my blood relative ghosts don't speak English. It's something like German but not. The Sweeney ghosts [unless carrying an axe] are generally harmless folk and wouldn't bother anybody. Amish ghosts generally have a sense of humor and are most easy to get along with but the "thee", "thou" and "thine" are converted into a sort of Pennsylvania Yiddish like zee, das und dem. Bi-location is OK. I really can't comment on "doddling" old geezers unless you might be referring to some of my friends in the Veteran's wing of the Palmer Odd Fellows Home? Well time for a nap. Love, Jack Sweeney, coming to you from -- etc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who do nothing about them" Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

    01/28/2008 09:02:40
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] Cemetery Occupants!
    2. Ray Marshall
    3. Boy, that's a relief! Afraid of Ghosts in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mldanahy@olemiss.edu Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:10 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23 Dearest Jack , Please be assured with regard to the population of that cemetery that none of the original inhabitants has moved. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.13/1246 - Release Date: 1/27/2008 6:39 PM

    01/28/2008 08:33:34
    1. [IRL-KERRY] DNA
    2. Sandy Stegmayer
    3. Dear Listers, Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common ancestor. As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular lab was ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab would be greatly appreciated. Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the connection is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes through my father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with the same surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I need to have one of my brothers be tested? Thank you, Sandy

    01/28/2008 08:14:02
    1. Re: [IRL-KERRY] DNA
    2. Helen Templeton
    3. I am not an expert but I do believe that the brother will have to be tested. Males get Y-DNA from their fathers and mtDNA from their mothers. Females get only mtDNA from their mothers. HT On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Sandy Stegmayer wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Another member of this list and I think that we may have a common > ancestor. > As such, we are considering DNA testing. In the past we have seen DNA > discussed on the list but do not recall whether or not a particular > lab was > ever mentioned. Any help directing us to a reliable testing lab > would be > greatly appreciated. > > Also, an answer to this question would be helpful. We believe the > connection > is directly through his father's father, etc. while mine goes > through my > father, his mother, her father, and his mother being the one with > the same > surname as the other lister. In order to make the connection, do I > need to > have one of my brothers be tested? > > > > Thank you, > > Sandy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    01/28/2008 07:32:12