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Granted the type is v v small, but Casey and his army of volunteers who transcribed records in 1950s deserve alot of credit. I was camped out in National library in Dublin every evening for 2 weeks wading through films of original latin church records for one parish. When I saw same stuff transcribed in Casey vols I was gobsmacked. Transcription is error prone and presume they had to take some shortcuts so you could go to original records or contact parish directly if u have a query on record or feel there is something missing. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "Lizziems@aol.com" <Lizziems@aol.com> To: hdipilato@comcast.net; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 March, 2008 4:32:13 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey advice I don't have any advice, I just want you to know that I too got bleary eyed looking through the Casey Collection to the point that I stopped going to my local FHC. I got so fed up with finding information scattered all over the pages and the small fine print, that I decided that maybe, I really didn't care to find my Irish Ancestors, if that is what it was going to take. Liz - in not so sunny but warm Space Coast, Fl. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
Hi Fintan, The births are US census. I am not sure of parish. Daniel stated he was from Glenflesk and his parents Killarney. I'm not familiar enough with the area to know how close those locales are. I belong to genealogybank.com and right now I'm trying to tie Daniel and Julia to the many Courtney's, Healy's and Donoghue's in the Worcester,MA area to see if I can come up with names that way. I know they were all cousins some which way. I keep reading the same names as pallbears in obits.I have births of some of children from LDS but 2 are not to be found. One is my great grandmother she told the family the church burned and her baptismal records along with it. She did not know her birthday. I have been trying to google church fires in the Killarney area about 1875-1883 but I can't find any. I did find a real interesting tidbit. Frank Courtney their son was very athletic. He played semi pro baseball, was offered a contract with the St. Louis Cardinals but was let go after a few short weeks. He then went on to manage the Haverhill team of the New England league. So all this searching did do some good. I now have a scrape book on Francis Courtney's baseball and track career!! By the way good point on parents being listed if they were alive. I never thought of that. Thanks for the help. Helen
----- Original Message ----- From: Helen To: irl/kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: casey advice Thank you all for advice. I thought a marriage record would be good because I have conflicting data. Death cert. on Daniel has his father as Daniel, his mother unknown Donoghue. His marriage has father as Denis mother is Julia Donoghue. The closest record I found for a Denis Cournane married to a Donoghue was a Mary. I thought for sure this was it since oldest daughter is Mary. Maybe Casey was incorrect in this 1 little fact.. However the year is 1854. Daniel got married in 1870 to Julia Healy who was born in 1845. Could that be correct? He was kinda young if he was born in 1854. These folks were not good with numbers they gave birth of 5 children born in Ireland all as May 1 year apart. What are the chances of your first 5 children all being born in May!!! I am planning a trip to Ireland maybe I should wait and spend a few hours in the NLI. between sight seeing tours. Thanks again, Helen
Then why are they telling us that too much TV or sitting at the Computer is bad for our eyes.??? Trying to move us out of the chair? Liz, in from of her computer screen. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
I don't have any advice, I just want you to know that I too got bleary eyed looking through the Casey Collection to the point that I stopped going to my local FHC. I got so fed up with finding information scattered all over the pages and the small fine print, that I decided that maybe, I really didn't care to find my Irish Ancestors, if that is what it was going to take. Liz - in not so sunny but warm Space Coast, Fl. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
Fintan makes an excellent point here. If it is important to you, you should always look at original documents (or microfilm of same) rather than trust transcriptions). Many folks reported that the Irish genealogy project, devised as a "work program", resulted in many transcription errors causing it not to be worth the cost in some cases. Ray Marshall -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fintan Sheehan Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:45 AM To: Lizziems@aol.com; hdipilato@comcast.net; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey advice Granted the type is v v small, but Casey and his army of volunteers who transcribed records in 1950s deserve alot of credit. I was camped out in National library in Dublin every evening for 2 weeks wading through films of original latin church records for one parish. When I saw same stuff transcribed in Casey vols I was gobsmacked. Transcription is error prone and presume they had to take some shortcuts so you could go to original records or contact parish directly if u have a query on record or feel there is something missing. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "Lizziems@aol.com" <Lizziems@aol.com> To: hdipilato@comcast.net; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 March, 2008 4:32:13 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey advice I don't have any advice, I just want you to know that I too got bleary eyed looking through the Casey Collection to the point that I stopped going to my local FHC. I got so fed up with finding information scattered all over the pages and the small fine print, that I decided that maybe, I really didn't care to find my Irish Ancestors, if that is what it was going to take. Liz - in not so sunny but warm Space Coast, Fl.
Just read Sallyanne lovely story I have a friend in Kerry who is going to put signs up for me in some of the churches in the area I think my O'Connor's were from. She finds it rather strange for us all to hunting around ever day for people who are long gone. What a lovely person your cousin is Sallyanne to send the peat and stones. I had to explain to my friend in Kerry that as a child I had no grandparents., as my mother was in a home most of her childhood. She knew her mother but the relationship was not good. I remember going to my mum's uncles funeral when I was about 15 , my mother said to me "Don't turn around but that's my mother sitting over there." And yes you guess it , I straight away turned .My mum and she were so much alike , when the funeral crowd came out of the Church she did not come over to speak to us, you would have thought she would like to meet her grandchild . So to fill in the blank pages of my heritage I keep looking. So wish me luck with the signs in Kerry. By the way SallyAnn, I have a Daniel O'Connor witness to the baptism of Catherine O'Connor, baptised in Kiltallagh 1859. Her parents were Thomas O'Connor {Connor] and Elizabeth Teahan. Happy St Patrick's Day to one and all Trish in Sydney
helen and others, The eye is a muscle. I think that most ophthamologists will reassure you that you cannot damage your eyes by the exercise ofreading of small print or looking at a lot of television. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://members.aol.com/Sadie476/Thayer.html
Trish: Do you have a birthdate for your Daniel O'Connor? Mine was born in 1824, but he was in Leeds England by 1856. Could have returned for a family baptism, though?? Thanks for your kind words and I do hope you have success with the church signs....worked for me!! Bye for now - SallyAnn irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: ST Patrick's Day Greetings (Lizziems@aol.com) 2. Happy St Pat's (Trish Jensen) 3. Casey advice (Helen) 4. Catherine Ready, dau. of Patrick. b. 1833-1835 (Ned Hawley) From: Lizziems@aol.com To: rozocon@verizon.net, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:36:56 EDT Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] ST Patrick's Day Greetings Thanks for that tid-bit Roz, I am not a diabetic, but I do not like to have more sugar in my diet then I need. Liz. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) From: "Trish Jensen" <reachpatricia@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:46:56 +1100 Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Happy St Pat's Just read Sallyanne lovely story I have a friend in Kerry who is going to put signs up for me in some of the churches in the area I think my O'Connor's were from. She finds it rather strange for us all to hunting around ever day for people who are long gone. What a lovely person your cousin is Sallyanne to send the peat and stones. I had to explain to my friend in Kerry that as a child I had no grandparents., as my mother was in a home most of her childhood. She knew her mother but the relationship was not good. I remember going to my mum's uncles funeral when I was about 15 , my mother said to me "Don't turn around but that's my mother sitting over there." And yes you guess it , I straight away turned .My mum and she were so much alike , when the funeral crowd came out of the Church she did not come over to speak to us, you would have thought she would like to meet her grandchild . So to fill in the blank pages of my heritage I keep looking. So wish me luck with the signs in Kerry. By the way SallyAnn, I have a Daniel O'Connor witness to the baptism of Catherine O'Connor, baptised in Kiltallagh 1859. Her parents were Thomas O'Connor {Connor] and Elizabeth Teahan. Happy St Patrick's Day to one and all Trish in Sydney From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:29:45 -0400 Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Casey advice Hello list, First of all happy St. Pat's Day to all. I have been roaming around in vol. 8 of Casey at FHC for past 4 weeks. I am going blind and have not gathered as much info as I had hoped. I still have 2 more films on order but I'm hung up on a marriage. I cannot find a marriage on a Denis Cournane and Julia Donoghue of Killarney circa 1840's. I did find their son's marriage. He said he was from Glenflesk and his parents were Killarney. I used data posted by Ray Marshall's Casey info to order my volumes. I have been over everything more than once and I'm lost. Tonight I noticed that vol. 5 has marriage records for Killarney and Fossa from 1792-1839. Should this be the film I need to order next? I don't know the area so I have only ordered vol. 7, 8 and 14. I just realized that vol. 5 has some Killarney records. I have found many of my Kerrisk/Healy/ Forhan records in vol 8 which included Teernaboul. The bad news on the Teernaboul record is it only had bride and groom and witnesses. I was hoping for more parents. I have also been haunting LDS site for the record. Are most of the Casey records on that site? As you can tell I'm a Casey newbie and I'm confused and horrified by what it's doing to my eye sight. Any advice would be appreciated. My FHC cut hours to 4 a week on Tuesdays so my eyes at least have a week to recover!!! Also a special thanks to Cheryl who posts on this board and Worcester board for 1856 Griffiths. Helen From: Ned Hawley <moonmullins85@yahoo.com> To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Catherine Ready, dau. of Patrick. b. 1833-1835 I'm looking for information on a Catherine Ready, daughter of Patrick Ready, b. 1833-1835. She had a relative named Martin Ready, probably her brother. Catherine & Patrick left for the United States by about 1850. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.
I'm looking for information on a Catherine Ready, daughter of Patrick Ready, b. 1833-1835. She had a relative named Martin Ready, probably her brother. Catherine & Patrick left for the United States by about 1850. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Dear All, Seeking the above born c1839. Possibly from Killarney or surrounding district. Find no record of him going to Australia but he ended up in South Australia by 1862. TIA Helen Murphy smurfs@iinet.net.au Family Name Interests: RYE, FLUKE, GARDINER, McMAHON, FRANCIS Please consider the environment before printing my email
Hello list, First of all happy St. Pat's Day to all. I have been roaming around in vol. 8 of Casey at FHC for past 4 weeks. I am going blind and have not gathered as much info as I had hoped. I still have 2 more films on order but I'm hung up on a marriage. I cannot find a marriage on a Denis Cournane and Julia Donoghue of Killarney circa 1840's. I did find their son's marriage. He said he was from Glenflesk and his parents were Killarney. I used data posted by Ray Marshall's Casey info to order my volumes. I have been over everything more than once and I'm lost. Tonight I noticed that vol. 5 has marriage records for Killarney and Fossa from 1792-1839. Should this be the film I need to order next? I don't know the area so I have only ordered vol. 7, 8 and 14. I just realized that vol. 5 has some Killarney records. I have found many of my Kerrisk/Healy/ Forhan records in vol 8 which included Teernaboul. The bad news on the Teernaboul record is it only had bride and groom and witnesses. I was hoping for more parents. I have also been haunting LDS site for the record. Are most of the Casey records on that site? As you can tell I'm a Casey newbie and I'm confused and horrified by what it's doing to my eye sight. Any advice would be appreciated. My FHC cut hours to 4 a week on Tuesdays so my eyes at least have a week to recover!!! Also a special thanks to Cheryl who posts on this board and Worcester board for 1856 Griffiths. Helen
Thanks for that tid-bit Roz, I am not a diabetic, but I do not like to have more sugar in my diet then I need. Liz. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
I am in Australia. Could you please tell me what 1.5 quarters of butter are? I am familiar with pounds or grams. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:04 PM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 57 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Where are you all? Happy St. Pat's Day (MonicaBOS@aol.com) > 2. Re: Where are you all? Happy St. Pat's Day (Ann O'Hara) > 3. Irish Soda Bread (John L. Sweeney) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10/03/2008 7:27 PM
HI EVERYONE AND A HAPPY ST. PATRICKS dAY TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May the sun shine and the parades be long and full of joy (?) and life be a wonderful periiod for all. Jack Sweeney; Thanks for yet another Soda Bread recipe; I look forward to make ing it next year- or next week if I really get the urge. I have tried Splenda (about 1/2 of the sugar amount) in my family bread which is much like yours and it did not make a difference. SO, if anyone has diabetics in the family, using !/2 the amount called for in Jack's recipe would make the same fabulous tasting and "feeling" bread. Last year's Soda breads (copied from our list) are wrapped and waiting. My family recipe, which always gets made VERY early, is half gone - but then we've had a bit of time -in days! Don't add much to the list conversations because I'm not chasing my ancestors from Kerry currently- got involved in too much social work. However, I NEVER FAIL TO READ EVERY ITEM and it makes me feel connected and closer to Kerry and all of you. Thanks! May Blessings be with you always! Roz (Shea & O'Connor from Clashapuca/Murphy from Ardfert) O'Connor
Hi,I In Pittsburgh, the parade is always the Saturday before St. Patrick's Day, unless St. Patrick's Day falls on Saturday - then they are one in the same. This upsets many local performers and bar owners because when the parade falls on the actual day, it cuts into their profits. This year, however, few will realize that the 'actual' day has been moved by the catholic church to be the same as the parade. So, my guess is we will celebrate on the 15th AND the 17th. And everyone will be happy :-)Thanx, Sharon D. Guerra mailto:guerra_family@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
Isnt the vital ingredient in 'soda' bread 'bread soda'? Recipe sound like 'curny cake' which my mom makes. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "CLabre1068@aol.com" <CLabre1068@aol.com> To: sweelab@enter.net; IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 11 March, 2008 11:34:07 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Irish Soda Bread Yikes Jack, where is the buttermilk? In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:30:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sweelab@enter.net writes: It's that time again. Usually about once a year around March 10th. Irish Soda Bread: Kerry Recipe. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. The World's Favourite Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Hi Fintan: Yes! Buttermilk and baking soda are necessary for the dictionary. However, such ingredients are not necessarily preferred by some and often unavailable. Besides, I prefer the current recipe [an enjoyable result] which requires less butter [it's moist]. Love, Jack Sweeney, in bright and warmer Palmer, Pennsylvania.
Yikes Jack, where is the buttermilk? In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:30:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sweelab@enter.net writes: It's that time again. Usually about once a year around March 10th. Irish Soda Bread: Kerry Recipe. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)