I am looking for the descendants of Daniel of Tarmons. His father Maurice left his estate and moved to Cork City in late 1700's. Daniel may have gone to Cork also. My belief is that Daniel's children or grandchildren returned to Kerry around Cahirciveen. If anyone has any more information than published in the O'Connell Family Tracts, I would greatly appreciate the information. Sincerely, Gerald O'Connell Washington, DC

Yes, I was very excited when I saw the item on tv and logged on right away to discover the counties I need were not available - Kerry, Clare, Cork (sth) and Waterford...... end of excitement..... Fiona de BUitleir On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM, <MonicaBOS@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi all. I have actually used this site to find some of my mother's Mayo > people. Some records are 10 euros and some are 6 and some are 3. It seems > to > depend upon what you are looking for. The marriage records cost 10, for > instance. > I bought one record that helped me through a "brick wall" but there are > many > more there that I could have used but will not because of the cost. I > guess > the good news is that the marriage record tells me where to go looking for > records if/when I ever get over there. As we all know, going to the right > place > is most of the battle. I also have to add that my "find" has added great > excitement to my search. But it is very expensive, at least for me, with > the US > dollar so weak. > > Monica > > > > In a message dated 3/14/2008 11:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > fintansheehan@yahoo.ie writes: > > Saw item on TV but mentioned that lookups could cost €10 per record. > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well now , would you all say a prayer to St Patrick in thanks for being so kind as to allow us all to find our families on this new site. Do you know I saw a very small write up in our Sydney Telegraph yesterday and it told me that yesterday 21 March was St Patrick's Day here in Sydney. Trish O'Connor's and Teahans from Ballfinnane and Currow,son Maurice went to New Zealand also Cournane and Bowler from Cahersiveen ,daughter Mary Frances married Maurice in NZ 1881

Hi all. I have actually used this site to find some of my mother's Mayo people. Some records are 10 euros and some are 6 and some are 3. It seems to depend upon what you are looking for. The marriage records cost 10, for instance. I bought one record that helped me through a "brick wall" but there are many more there that I could have used but will not because of the cost. I guess the good news is that the marriage record tells me where to go looking for records if/when I ever get over there. As we all know, going to the right place is most of the battle. I also have to add that my "find" has added great excitement to my search. But it is very expensive, at least for me, with the US dollar so weak. Monica In a message dated 3/14/2008 11:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fintansheehan@yahoo.ie writes: Saw item on TV but mentioned that lookups could cost €10 per record. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Saw item on TV but mentioned that lookups could cost €10 per record. See related statement http://oliviamitchell.finegael.ie/representatives/common/index.cfm/type/statementdetails/nkey/33769/pkey/0/page/2/ Regards, Fintan St Patricks Day ecards at http://www.myirishancestry.com/index.php/plain/st_patricks_day_ecards Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: Ray Marshall <raymarsh@mninter.net> To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2008 2:33:56 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Tracing Irish roots made easier (except in Kerry) Tracing Irish roots made easier (except in Kerry) [Check the map on the link; no records for County Kerry have been posted yet.] Wednesday, 12 March 2008 [RTE News: http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0312/ancestors.html ] Tracing roots is to become much easier with the provision of an internet site which aims to list all available records of births, deaths and marriages from previous centuries. The Irish Roots website (www.irish-roots.net <http://www.irish-roots.net/> ) will eventually hold details of all church records, which in some cases go back to the year 1600. Already the website holds details of over 5.5m records of births, over 2.4m records of marriages, and over 1m deaths from that time period. It is the culmination of 25 years' work by historians who have studied every conceivable resource, from records of baptisms and marriages to gravestone inscriptions. The website was officially launched today on the Jeanie Johnston in Dublin by Arts Minister Séamus Brennan and Northern Ireland Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness. It is free to do a general search on the site, but €5 for a more detailed search thereafter. The Irish Family History Foundation, which runs the website, says all money goes back into making the site bigger and better. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/

Helen Sorry, I think you my have misunderstood. The page number is more likely to relate to the volume of births held by the Registrar. To obtain a copy of a birth record from the General Records Office you need to quote the year, quarter, volume and page number. See this link for a small extract from the indexes of births from the Tralee district: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/FILE/0013page.html Cheers Neil -------------------------------------------------- From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:45 PM To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Fw: urban Killarney codes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> > To: <irl/kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes > > >> Neil, >> >> I hope you're right. It would be so nice to just go to pg. 307 and find >> the record. Part of my problem with Casey is getting the correct page >> numbers, they are so unclear. >> >> Hope vol. 7 shows up this week, >> >> Helen >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Walton Family" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> >> To: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net>; "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >> >> >>> Hi Helen >>> >>> You'll probably find that 307 is the page number of the volume in which >>> the birth was recorded and Killarney 2 is the Registrar's district. Some >>> of my ancestors births were recorded in "Killarney No 2 District". >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> >>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:49 AM >>> To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >>> >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. >>>> Cheryl >>>> gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would >>>> appreciate >>>> any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: >>>> >>>> Mary Cournane >>>> >>>> 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland >>>> >>>> If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in >>>> Killarney for this code? >>>> >>>> Help is always appreciated. >>>> >>>> Helen >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Helen You'll probably find that 307 is the page number of the volume in which the birth was recorded and Killarney 2 is the Registrar's district. Some of my ancestors births were recorded in "Killarney No 2 District". Hope this helps. Neil -------------------------------------------------- From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:49 AM To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes > Hi List, > > I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. Cheryl > gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would appreciate > any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: > > Mary Cournane > > 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland > > If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in > Killarney for this code? > > Help is always appreciated. > > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, there are no postcodes(zipcodes) used in Ireland except in Dublin city. Killarney just has a pop of about 15,000. Street names used in town addresses and townlands used for rural addresses. Fintan St Patricks Day ecards at http://www.myirishancestry.com/index.php/plain/st_patricks_day_ecards ----- Original Message ---- From: Helen <hdipilato@comcast.net> To: irl-kerry <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2008 12:49:42 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes Hi List, I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. Cheryl gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would appreciate any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: Mary Cournane 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in Killarney for this code? Help is always appreciated. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> To: "Walton Family" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fw: urban Killarney codes > Cheryl just sent email correcting me. It was too good to be true. I did > find on Genuki the 2 Killarney so that is a big help since I'm not > familiar with the ins and outs of the area. I still get hung up on the > townland, parish thing!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walton Family" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> > To: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net>; "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fw: urban Killarney codes > > >> Helen >> >> Sorry, I think you my have misunderstood. The page number is more likely >> to relate to the volume of births held by the Registrar. To obtain a copy >> of a birth record from the General Records Office you need to quote the >> year, quarter, volume and page number. See this link for a small extract >> from the indexes of births from the Tralee district: >> >> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Neil-A-Walton/FILE/0013page.html >> >> Cheers >> >> Neil >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:45 PM >> To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Fw: urban Killarney codes >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> >>> To: <irl/kerry@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:17 AM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >>> >>> >>>> Neil, >>>> >>>> I hope you're right. It would be so nice to just go to pg. 307 and find >>>> the record. Part of my problem with Casey is getting the correct page >>>> numbers, they are so unclear. >>>> >>>> Hope vol. 7 shows up this week, >>>> >>>> Helen >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Walton Family" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> >>>> To: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net>; "irl-kerry" >>>> <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:44 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Helen >>>>> >>>>> You'll probably find that 307 is the page number of the volume in >>>>> which >>>>> the birth was recorded and Killarney 2 is the Registrar's district. >>>>> Some >>>>> of my ancestors births were recorded in "Killarney No 2 District". >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:49 AM >>>>> To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >>>>> >>>>>> Hi List, >>>>>> >>>>>> I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary Cournane >>>>>> >>>>>> 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland >>>>>> >>>>>> If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in >>>>>> Killarney for this code? >>>>>> >>>>>> Help is always appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Helen >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Tracing Irish roots made easier (except in Kerry) [Check the map on the link; no records for County Kerry have been posted yet.] Wednesday, 12 March 2008 [RTE News: http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0312/ancestors.html ] Tracing roots is to become much easier with the provision of an internet site which aims to list all available records of births, deaths and marriages from previous centuries. The Irish Roots website (www.irish-roots.net <http://www.irish-roots.net/> ) will eventually hold details of all church records, which in some cases go back to the year 1600. Already the website holds details of over 5.5m records of births, over 2.4m records of marriages, and over 1m deaths from that time period. It is the culmination of 25 years' work by historians who have studied every conceivable resource, from records of baptisms and marriages to gravestone inscriptions. The website was officially launched today on the Jeanie Johnston in Dublin by Arts Minister Séamus Brennan and Northern Ireland Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness. It is free to do a general search on the site, but €5 for a more detailed search thereafter. The Irish Family History Foundation, which runs the website, says all money goes back into making the site bigger and better.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> To: <irl/kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes > Neil, > > I hope you're right. It would be so nice to just go to pg. 307 and find > the record. Part of my problem with Casey is getting the correct page > numbers, they are so unclear. > > Hope vol. 7 shows up this week, > > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walton Family" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> > To: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net>; "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes > > >> Hi Helen >> >> You'll probably find that 307 is the page number of the volume in which >> the birth was recorded and Killarney 2 is the Registrar's district. Some >> of my ancestors births were recorded in "Killarney No 2 District". >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Neil >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Helen" <hdipilato@comcast.net> >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:49 AM >> To: "irl-kerry" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] urban Killarney codes >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. Cheryl >>> gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would appreciate >>> any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: >>> >>> Mary Cournane >>> >>> 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland >>> >>> If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in >>> Killarney for this code? >>> >>> Help is always appreciated. >>> >>> Helen >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Hi List, I found a birth on LDS site and there were numbers with the data. Cheryl gave a hint that they might be urban Killarney codes. I would appreciate any info if anybody knows the answer. The birth record reads: Mary Cournane 01 NOV 1873 307,Killarney 2, , Kerry,Ireland If the 307 and Killarney 2 is a code does anyone have a location in Killarney for this code? Help is always appreciated. Helen

Amen to that Ray Liz, not complaining in Sunny and warm Space Coast. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Mike I am very much aware of those problems. My mother was a Census taker back in the 40's and my Great Aunt was a census taker in 1900. What I am referring to is the case where the hand writing was not very clear and any American would know some of the names to where he would pick something close to the original, but because of the outsourcing they seem to come up with a name that would resemble something more like an East Indian. When you check the index and can't find the name, but when you go to the actual written Census, there it is, big as life, with lousy penmanship. Sometimes, soundex does not help in these cases. Liz in sunny and warm Space Coast Florida. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

If genealogy was easy, there would be no Kerry List to share our problems with. Ray -----Original Message----- From: Lizziems@aol.com [mailto:Lizziems@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:00 AM To: raymarsh@mninter.net; fintansheehan@yahoo.ie; hdipilato@comcast.net; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Casey advice Ray Thanks for that information. I guess it is a lot like the Census that is indexed and transcribed in Ancestry.com. It is outsourced to India or some such place and they interpret the names as they see fit, which in many cases, is no where near the correct American spelling. Then we wonder why we can't find dear Uncle Joe Blow when it is indexed under Joe Blou, Blew, Bloo or whatever name they determined it looked like. Liz, warm in Space Coast, Fl. _____ It's Tax Time! Get <http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001> tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.

Gob as in mouth. Dont think gobsmacked is an irish term. Thought it was american but i was wrong - originates in UK (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_words_not_widely_used_in_the_United_States) On a simular vein we used to buy gobstoppers when I was young. They are large boiled sweets. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: John L. Sweeney <sweelab@enter.net> To: mldanahy@olemiss.edu; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 13 March, 2008 2:35:45 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Gobsmacked? Good Morning Michael: I think it's Gaelic, the Irish branch of Goidelic-Celtic. If I recall correctly it has something to do with drinking too much. But I'd need a bigger Translation book than the one Herself gave me. Love, Jack Sweeney in bright, clear and getting warmer Palmer, Pennsylvania. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. The World's Favourite Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Good Morning Michael: I think it's Gaelic, the Irish branch of Goidelic-Celtic. If I recall correctly it has something to do with drinking too much. But I'd need a bigger Translation book than the one Herself gave me. Love, Jack Sweeney in bright, clear and getting warmer Palmer, Pennsylvania.

Ray Thanks for that information. I guess it is a lot like the Census that is indexed and transcribed in Ancestry.com. It is outsourced to India or some such place and they interpret the names as they see fit, which in many cases, is no where near the correct American spelling. Then we wonder why we can't find dear Uncle Joe Blow when it is indexed under Joe Blou, Blew, Bloo or whatever name they determined it looked like. Liz, warm in Space Coast, Fl. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Fintan, mee boy, gobsmacked is it and what would ye be meaning by that?

<<Then we wonder why we can't find dear Uncle Joe Blow when it is indexed under Joe Blou, Blew, Bloo or whatever name they determined it looked like.>> I would hope that anyone doing any searching would use the Soundex rules and search for all names that have the same soundex value. I cannot remember all of them but you ignore vowels and double letters are two rules. For Irish names you should also search ignoring the Gaelic prefixes: Leary for O'Leary, Carthy for McCarthy etc. Beofer you too badly malign the transcribers, for the census, a lot of those "errors" are in the originals. When someone was not home it was common to get the information from the neighbors rather than walk/ride back later. The neighbors may well have guessed at a lot of the information. Also in the mid-19th Century, a lot of Irish still had a strong residual distrust of Government and English speaking "officials". And lying to an Englishman is not a sin covered by Irish morality. Mike McCarthy