JOIN US! The Massachusetts Society of Genealogists, Inc., 35th Annual Meeting and Conference, November 6, 2010, at Courtyard Marriott, Marlborough, MA. Enjoy these speakers : DICK EASTMAN, GARY HYLANDER, PH.D., LESLIE ALBRECHT HUBER, SHARON SERGEANT, MELDON J. WOLFGANG & GENE VOGT. >>> An Ancestor Road Show show will be held, this means you can >>> schedule free appointment with a NEAPG genealogist to seek advice >>> on doing your research. Also, a Silent Auction will be held, as >>> well as raffles, prizes, vendors and Family Tree displays. This >>> is a chance to become informed in doing research, an opportunity >>> to meet new friends, whom have the same hobby as you, to network, >>> share roadblocks and successes in your research, meet members of >>> our 5 chapters and learn about the history of our organization, >>> coffee hour, a nice dinner, prizes, shopping and more! >>> >>> If you plan on coming to the conference, consider creating a >>> project. It can be as small as a picture with a descriptive >>> paragraph, a portion of your pedigree chart or may be elaborate. >>> For more information on the conference, including a description of >>> speakers, list of topics, and Family Tree Projects suggestions >>> then go >>> http://msoginc.org/ >> > For a program schedule, registration form, speaker profiles, list of > vendors, and directions, please visit our website: http://msoginc.org/ > > Deadlines for Late Reservation: > · Conference – October 18th thru November 6th, 2010 > Members – No charge (registration is required) > Non-Members - $35.00 > · Lunch - $35.00 (checks must be received by October 25th, 2010 > No lunch reservations will be accepted after October 25th, 2010 > No lunches will be sold at the door on the day of the conference > No Brown Bag lunches may be eaten on hotel premises > > It will be a fun day! Karen Trearchis Recording Secretary, MSOG Merrimack Valley Chapter, (Our newest chapter, founded in June!)

Ray Most of us old timers on the Kerry List will long remember Jack with his humor and wit, as well as his helpful information and everyone will long enjoy the recipe of his Aunt's Irish Soda Bread. I know I cherish my copy. All our best to Barb and her family. Liz In a message dated 10/26/2010 8:28:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Jack’s wife, Barb, asked me to post her thanks to the list for all the nice messages she received after Jack’s death a few months ago. Ray Dear Members of the Kerry List, It will be five months on November 9, 2010 that Jack left us. I am sorry that it has taken me so long to say thank you to all the wonderful people on the list. The sentiments that they expressed are indelible in my heart and in the hearts of our children, their spouses and grandchildren. It has been the hardest trial that we have ever gone through but we know that we will all be okay. Jack is here with us. I so enjoy all the e-mails from the Kerry list. They give me something to think about and I know some day I will work on my family history again. All my love, Barbara Sweeney and Family _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack’s wife, Barb, asked me to post her thanks to the list for all the nice messages she received after Jack’s death a few months ago. Ray Dear Members of the Kerry List, It will be five months on November 9, 2010 that Jack left us. I am sorry that it has taken me so long to say thank you to all the wonderful people on the list. The sentiments that they expressed are indelible in my heart and in the hearts of our children, their spouses and grandchildren. It has been the hardest trial that we have ever gone through but we know that we will all be okay. Jack is here with us. I so enjoy all the e-mails from the Kerry list. They give me something to think about and I know some day I will work on my family history again. All my love, Barbara Sweeney and Family

There is no one right choice. The best thing to do to pass on your knowledge is to make dozens of copies and hand them out to everyone. All nieces and nephews, your hometown library, online sites.

Ray, Some genealogy friends and I were discussing the question of what happens to my research stuff when I'm gone recently. Some of the ideas we came up with is if there is any family member who shares our interest, they just got luck and inherited our most valued asset. If unfortunately we have no family member smart enough to share our interests, then we decided the choices were to leave the information to a genealogy organization, the LDS, a library or the information can be divided among different organizations. This way the information I spent hours digging up isn't totally lost forever in a landfill and maybe some day many years from now when someone is looking for info on me for their family tree this information will be available for them. Since I have lost information before due to computer melt downs, I backup everything onto CDs and keep my hard copies. Judy Searching for O'Connor, Hayes, Foley, Alworth, Gentlemen, McManus in County Kerry; Clarke, Loughran, Quinn in County Tryone. Also searching Delfino, Bellantoni and Neri in Italy -----Original Message----- From: Ray Marshall <[email protected]> To: Meg Kenagy <[email protected]>; IRL-Kerry-L <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:39 pm Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally You're very welcome, Meg. Yes, we family historians sure do go through the binders (and bookshelves, oo) Because even with digital records, it is critically important to retain hard copies" of all of your research. The big problem, for me, with binders is now that I know what to do with my igital files after I am gone, is --- what do I do with my binders? Do I ave someone who might want them and care for them? Many new genealogists have come to believe that everything that they might ant to know about their ancestors will be found on the internet. That is wrong. You still need to examine original copies of church and ivil records, including passenger lists, immigration information, bituaries, newspaper articles, articles in books, reference books, etc. nd you end up making copies or scans of those. That's what the binders are or. Ray -----Original Message----- rom: iMeg Kenagy ent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:12 PM ubject: [IRL-KERRY] Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally Thank you, Ray, for the link to Preserving Your Family History ecords Digitally. It's great to have all this information in one lace--realize I have to get more organized, but who knew my search o find information on a grandfather would lead me to 10 binders and stack of CDs! Meg Kenagy [email protected] _______________ -------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: ttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in he subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: ttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish enealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide udience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at ttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Rootsweb has free web space on its Freepages site. That's a good place to park data, even if it isn't very well organized. http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm <http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm> -----Original Message----- From: Judy Henderson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:18 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally Ray, Some genealogy friends and I were discussing the question of what happens to my research stuff when I'm gone recently. Some of the ideas we came up with is if there is any family member who shares our interest, they just got luck and inherited our most valued asset. If unfortunately we have no family member smart enough to share our interests, then we decided the choices were to leave the information to a genealogy organization, the LDS, a library or the information can be divided among different organizations. This way the information I spent hours digging up isn't totally lost forever in a landfill and maybe some day many years from now when someone is looking for info on me for their family tree this information will be available for them. Since I have lost information before due to computer melt downs, I backup everything onto CDs and keep my hard copies. Judy Searching for O'Connor, Hayes, Foley, Alworth, Gentlemen, McManus in County Kerry; Clarke, Loughran, Quinn in County Tryone. Also searching Delfino, Bellantoni and Neri in Italy

Mary, you¹re right. The reddleman¹s real name was Diggory Venn in Hardy¹s book. Although raddled is accepted as well as reddled for the sheep dye. But reddled is not accepted for the other two definitions for humans. ------ Forwarded Message From: Mary Kay <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:50:05 -0500 To: Kitty <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY - "raddled" I always thought it was "reddled." I recall a character called "the Reddleman" in Thomas Hardy's novel, The Return of the Native. Mary Kay ------ End of Forwarded Message

In sheep, it's a pigment marking for ownership or separation. Like American cattle branding. In humans, careworn: showing the wearing effects of overwork or care or suffering. In literature, it often means that an older woman's complexion was ruined by cosmetics of dubious quality. Kitty On 10/25/10 12:11 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mary, > > Would you please tell me what 'raddled' means? I've never heard of it > before and I was just over in Ireland the past two weeks and never heard that > word at that time. Thanks so much. > > Kathleen~CT. > > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:30:55 +0100 > From: marysimpson <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] "Lost in the mists....." > > Thank you Ray, for the great clip from the New York Times. How can you > miss the Reeks??? > > And I laughed when I read the bit about the sheep with the red & blue > markings - hasn't he heard about raddled? > But great stuff. > Mary > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish > genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide > audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary, Would you please tell me what 'raddled' means? I've never heard of it before and I was just over in Ireland the past two weeks and never heard that word at that time. Thanks so much. Kathleen~CT. Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:30:55 +0100 From: marysimpson <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] "Lost in the mists....." Thank you Ray, for the great clip from the New York Times. How can you miss the Reeks??? And I laughed when I read the bit about the sheep with the red & blue markings - hasn't he heard about raddled? But great stuff. Mary

I found the following on _www.arcadiapublishing.com_ (http://www.arcadiapublishing.com) and thought that some of you might be interested. 1. Butte 2. Irish Butte >From what I can remember, if you go to the site and register to get their emails, you will hear back from them and get a first time purchase discount. I don't know if they have changed that procedure or not, so don't hold me to it. I have previously ordered books for myself and for gifts and have never had a problem with the company. Type in "Montana" on the top right area of Book Search and click 'go.' FYI - I did not write either book and do not have any personal interest in the publishing company or for any sale of any of their books. Kathleen~CT.

Thank you Ray, for the great clip from the New York Times. How can you miss the Reeks??? And I laughed when I read the bit about the sheep with the red & blue markings - hasn't he heard about raddled? But great stuff. Mary

>From the New York Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/travel/24ireland.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=home page <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/travel/24ireland.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=hom epage> Lost in Ireland

Hi Ray, I've been using this for years... http://tinyurl.com/ Quick fix for long URL's. :) Kind regards, Sherrie. --- http://www.silkweb.com.au/ On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:39:09 +1100, Ray Marshall <[email protected]> wrote: > Leslie > > That's because they are too long. You have to copy the whole link and > paste > it into your address bar. > > > Ray > --

You're very welcome, Meg. Yes, we family historians sure do go through the binders (and bookshelves, too) Because even with digital records, it is critically important to retain "hard copies" of all of your research. The big problem, for me, with binders is now that I know what to do with my digital files after I am gone, is --- what do I do with my binders? Do I have someone who might want them and care for them? Many new genealogists have come to believe that everything that they might want to know about their ancestors will be found on the internet. That is wrong. You still need to examine original copies of church and civil records, including passenger lists, immigration information, obituaries, newspaper articles, articles in books, reference books, etc. And you end up making copies or scans of those. That's what the binders are for. Ray -----Original Message----- From: iMeg Kenagy Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:12 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally Thank you, Ray, for the link to Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally. It's great to have all this information in one place--realize I have to get more organized, but who knew my search to find information on a grandfather would lead me to 10 binders and a stack of CDs! Meg Kenagy [email protected]

Thank you, Ray, for the link to Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally. It's great to have all this information in one place--realize I have to get more organized, but who knew my search to find information on a grandfather would lead me to 10 binders and a stack of CDs! Meg Kenagy [email protected] Oregon

Leslie That's because they are too long. You have to copy the whole link and paste it into your address bar. Ray -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Rahling [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:01 AM To: 'Ray Marshall' Subject: RE: [IRL-KERRY] White Paper: Preserving Your Family History RecordsDigitally Ray, the links you sent don't work. Leslie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Marshall Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:50 AM To: Kerry List; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [IRL-KERRY] White Paper: Preserving Your Family History RecordsDigitally Gene Eastman, Eastman's On-Line Genealogy Newsletter October 21, 2010 Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally I have written several times about the advantages and disadvantages of storing records digitally for many years, both your personal records as well as the holdings of major archives and records repositories. Now Gary Wright, an employee of FamilySearch, has written a definitive whitepaper on the subject that explains the issues involved with digital archiving. He describes in detail the pitfalls of digital storage of priceless paperwork and of old family photographs that have been digitized. As he explains, if done right, digital archives will last for decades. If done wrong, they may not last three years. I had a chance to read this whitepaper a few weeks ago when Gary circulated it amongst a number of people in the industry, asking for our comments. I told Gary at that time that he had to publish it on the web and, when he did, to please let me know the address so that I could inform the readers of this newsletter. After all the comments were in, Gary did exactly that. White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally is now available on the FamilySearch.org web site at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_History _Records_Digitally <https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_Histor y_Records_Digitally> I would suggest you read this whitepaper and consider the information within it carefully. Then forward copies to all your genealogy friends, society members, and anyone else with an interest in genealogy. I think every genealogist as well as every person who has heirloom documents and photographs in his or her possession should read White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_History _Records_Digitally <https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_Histor y_Records_Digitally> White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally >From FamilySearch Wiki Gary T. Wright, October 2010 While gathering family history records over the years, you've probably been preserving them physically. So why consider preserving them digitally now? This paper discusses the benefits and challenges of using digital preservation to both augment and enhance the preservation of your family history records. It also explores solutions to the challenges, identifies what types of family history records are suitable for digital preservation, and summarizes what is required to get started archiving digital records. This paper is available as a PDF document <http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Personal_Archiving_White _Paper_8_Oct_2010.pdf> Print or share this paper with others <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Personal_Archiving_White_Paper_8_Oct _2010.pdf> _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gene Eastman, Eastman’s On-Line Genealogy Newsletter October 21, 2010 Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally I have written several times about the advantages and disadvantages of storing records digitally for many years, both your personal records as well as the holdings of major archives and records repositories. Now Gary Wright, an employee of FamilySearch, has written a definitive whitepaper on the subject that explains the issues involved with digital archiving. He describes in detail the pitfalls of digital storage of priceless paperwork and of old family photographs that have been digitized. As he explains, if done right, digital archives will last for decades. If done wrong, they may not last three years. I had a chance to read this whitepaper a few weeks ago when Gary circulated it amongst a number of people in the industry, asking for our comments. I told Gary at that time that he had to publish it on the web and, when he did, to please let me know the address so that I could inform the readers of this newsletter. After all the comments were in, Gary did exactly that. White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally is now available on the FamilySearch.org web site at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_History _Records_Digitally <https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_Histor y_Records_Digitally> I would suggest you read this whitepaper and consider the information within it carefully. Then forward copies to all your genealogy friends, society members, and anyone else with an interest in genealogy. I think every genealogist as well as every person who has heirloom documents and photographs in his or her possession should read White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_History _Records_Digitally <https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/White_Paper:_Preserving_Your_Family_Histor y_Records_Digitally> White Paper: Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally >From FamilySearch Wiki Gary T. Wright, October 2010 While gathering family history records over the years, you’ve probably been preserving them physically. So why consider preserving them digitally now? This paper discusses the benefits and challenges of using digital preservation to both augment and enhance the preservation of your family history records. It also explores solutions to the challenges, identifies what types of family history records are suitable for digital preservation, and summarizes what is required to get started archiving digital records. This paper is available as a PDF document <http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Personal_Archiving_White _Paper_8_Oct_2010.pdf> Print or share this paper with others <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Personal_Archiving_White_Paper_8_Oct _2010.pdf>

Hi fellow listers! I haven't contributed to the list much lately. Here is a link to a National I reland site that has old photos of Ireland. http://www.nli.ie/digital-photographs.aspx Enjoy and happy hunting! Cheryl