I can understand your question. I have one indirect ancestor who had twelve children from 1852 through 1889. I still have not figured out how old she was when she started and ended. I quit when I figured she was 12 for the first child and 49 for the last. Jan 10, 2011 03:01:21 AM, [email protected] wrote: =========================================== Today's Topics: 1. " Correct " ages for great grandmother (marysimpson) 2. Re: " Correct " ages for great grandmother (Anne) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:27:51 +0000 From: marysimpson Subject: [IRL-KERRY] " Correct " ages for great grandmother To: [email protected], Rootsweb Cork Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed My grandfather's mother Margaret Sheehan came from Kerry and moved to London after marrying my great grandfather in Tralee in 1858. Her father's name was given at her marriage as Denis Sheehan. Unlike her husband, we had never known where she was born or brought up. Then, in the English 1911 census, she wrote down as her place of birth, Castlemaine. I could find no Margaret Sheehans with a father's name Denis in the parishes in and around Castlemaine except one - in Milltown which is just south of Castlemaine in 1827. The only trouble with this was that it would have had my g grandmother having children up to her fifties, when her last child, my grandfather was born to her at the grand old age of almost 55! Most of her children died as babies or young infants. My question is this: How likely is this to be accurate? Or, would it have been more probable that the first Margaret Sheehan died as a child, and that this was a later child given the same name but NOT registered in the parish baptisms?? Are there holes in the parish records in this area of Kerry? Mary ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:25:52 +1100 From: "Anne" Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] " Correct " ages for great grandmother To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mary If you go to http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/kerryrc.htm, you will see a map of the Kerry parishes. Click on the parishes of Keel (where Castlemaine is located) and Milltown and you will see the dates for which the parish records are known to be available. Keel looks pretty good but there are gaps in Milltown. Of course, that does not mean that they all made it to www.irishgenealogy.ie Regards Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marysimpson Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 12:28 a.m. To: [email protected]; Rootsweb Cork Subject: [IRL-KERRY] " Correct " ages for great grandmother My grandfather's mother Margaret Sheehan came from Kerry and moved to London after marrying my great grandfather in Tralee in 1858. Her father's name was given at her marriage as Denis Sheehan. Unlike her husband, we had never known where she was born or brought up. Then, in the English 1911 census, she wrote down as her place of birth, Castlemaine. I could find no Margaret Sheehans with a father's name Denis in the parishes in and around Castlemaine except one - in Milltown which is just south of Castlemaine in 1827. The only trouble with this was that it would have had my g grandmother having children up to her fifties, when her last child, my grandfather was born to her at the grand old age of almost 55! Most of her children died as babies or young infants. My question is this: How likely is this to be accurate? Or, would it have been more probable that the first Margaret Sheehan died as a child, and that this was a later child given the same name but NOT registered in the parish baptisms?? Are there holes in the parish records in this area of Kerry? Mary __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 ***************************************

Hi Mary If you go to http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/kerryrc.htm, you will see a map of the Kerry parishes. Click on the parishes of Keel (where Castlemaine is located) and Milltown and you will see the dates for which the parish records are known to be available. Keel looks pretty good but there are gaps in Milltown. Of course, that does not mean that they all made it to www.irishgenealogy.ie Regards Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marysimpson Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 12:28 a.m. To: [email protected]; Rootsweb Cork Subject: [IRL-KERRY] " Correct " ages for great grandmother My grandfather's mother Margaret Sheehan came from Kerry and moved to London after marrying my great grandfather in Tralee in 1858. Her father's name was given at her marriage as Denis Sheehan. Unlike her husband, we had never known where she was born or brought up. Then, in the English 1911 census, she wrote down as her place of birth, Castlemaine. I could find no Margaret Sheehans with a father's name Denis in the parishes in and around Castlemaine except one - in Milltown which is just south of Castlemaine in 1827. The only trouble with this was that it would have had my g grandmother having children up to her fifties, when her last child, my grandfather was born to her at the grand old age of almost 55! Most of her children died as babies or young infants. My question is this: How likely is this to be accurate? Or, would it have been more probable that the first Margaret Sheehan died as a child, and that this was a later child given the same name but NOT registered in the parish baptisms?? Are there holes in the parish records in this area of Kerry? Mary __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

My grandfather's mother Margaret Sheehan came from Kerry and moved to London after marrying my great grandfather in Tralee in 1858. Her father's name was given at her marriage as Denis Sheehan. Unlike her husband, we had never known where she was born or brought up. Then, in the English 1911 census, she wrote down as her place of birth, Castlemaine. I could find no Margaret Sheehans with a father's name Denis in the parishes in and around Castlemaine except one - in Milltown which is just south of Castlemaine in 1827. The only trouble with this was that it would have had my g grandmother having children up to her fifties, when her last child, my grandfather was born to her at the grand old age of almost 55! Most of her children died as babies or young infants. My question is this: How likely is this to be accurate? Or, would it have been more probable that the first Margaret Sheehan died as a child, and that this was a later child given the same name but NOT registered in the parish baptisms?? Are there holes in the parish records in this area of Kerry? Mary

Karen, Follow the link..good luck. http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html Helen BENNETT - WELCH Thomas J. Bennett, b. about 1823 in Ireland married Catherine Welch, b. between 1823 and 1833 in Ireland married near Albany, New York in 1851. Catherine's obituary stated she came from County Kerry. Her parents were John and Ellen Welch. Is there any place I could find birth and or marriage records for County Kerry in that time period. Thank you, Karen Dwyer _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BENNETT - WELCH Thomas J. Bennett, b. about 1823 in Ireland married Catherine Welch, b. between 1823 and 1833 in Ireland married near Albany, New York in 1851. Catherine’s obituary stated she came from County Kerry. Her parents were John and Ellen Welch. Is there any place I could find birth and or marriage records for County Kerry in that time period. Thank you, Karen Dwyer

I found this obituary and thought I would pass it on. I hope it finds a home! I am not related to any one listed below nor do I have any other information. Kathleen~CT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brooklyn Standard Union, Brooklyn, Kings County, New York, USA - Wednesday, 02 Sept 1931 - Catherine Neville SHEA died Tuesday at her home, 420 Union Street. She was born in County Kerry, Ireland, and had been a resident of Brooklyn for forty years. She was a member of the Church of St. Agnes, Hoyt and Sackett Streets, where requiem mass will be celebrated at 9:30am, Friday. She is survived by her husband, Michael SHEA; two sons, James and Michael SHEA, and four daughters; Mrs. William ERHARD, Mrs. Eugene DAILY, Mrs. William HUGHES and Lillian SHEA, and eight grandchildren. Interment will be at Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Anne Marie, you could try unsubscribing and re-subscribing again. I used to get only this list's messages by having to download them, but for some reason that doesn't happen anymore-I get them directly. I also found this at f http://www.mywebserver.org/us/help/faqs/supportFAQ.shtml : Q: How do I decode an uploaded file its in a . mim format ? A: Web Browsers send files in a mime wrapper. For your protection file uploads are kept in this format . There is no way to execute a program that is enclosed within this mime wrapper. This protects you from viruses and hackers. You must use a mime extraction program like The My Web Server File Extractor to decode these files. You can find the MyWebServer File Extractor in the downloads section of this web site Click Here for more information. Good luck! ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2011 3:00:03 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 324 ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:28:03 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 324 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Somehow, when I re-subscribed to the Kerry list, I began receiving blank messages with an attachments in a .mim format, which my PC can't open. Is there anyone who can explain how I might resume getting messages I can read, or at least let me know what format these are in? Ann Marie [email protected] ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 ***************************************

Lib writes: === the address is given as Carrubog, Tuoh [parish/congregation=Killarney] <snip> There are other baptisms..........but the parish/congregation is given as Killorglin - the addresses vary, Carhubeg, Tullamore, Cappaganeen. I had thought that Carhubeg and Carrubog where the same place - but not so certain now. If it is not the same place - where is Carrubog? === Lib, I'm quite sure that there is no Carrubog. There are only two townlands in Kerry with "bog" in the name (thanks again, John Broderick), and they start with "B". Carhoobeg is in Knockane civil parish, a mile or so WNW of Beaufort village, jiust NW of Loch Leane. Cappaganneen is two miles south of Carhoobeg, also in Knockane civil parish. I won't be much help on the RC parishes, as I don't do any genealogy - and hence, I don't have to worry about the continual changes in the RC parish "boundaries"......the civil parishes have remained essentially constant since the 1830's, and they suit most of my needs (primarily archaeology). Mitchell's maps of the RC parishes, from his "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland", are based on the Catholic parish structures in the "middle years of the 19th century". Based on the Kerry map, it would appear that Carhoobeg is firmly in the Killorglin RC parish, while Cappaganneen is close to a border-line between Killorglin and Beaufort (Tough) RC parishes. That's a about all I have on the historical RC parishes (I'm looking for a good History of the Diocese of Kerry - Reidy's book seems to be "unavailable", although I'm still working on an ILL for it). The Tullamore you mentioned doesn't seem to be in the area at all. There might be a townland 'sub-denomination' called Tullamore in your area, but the only two actual townlands that would fit the name are Tullamore and Tulla More......and both of them are well-northish of Listowel. I think that's about it for now. If you have any further questions, drop me a line. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Somehow, when I re-subscribed to the Kerry list, I began receiving blank messages with an attachments in a .mim format, which my PC can't open. Is there anyone who can explain how I might resume getting messages I can read, or at least let me know what format these are in? Ann Marie [email protected]

*May I wish all Kerry-roots listers a happy New Year. Does anybody know whether the name Cournane as it appeared in Glenns/Poulagour in the 1780-90s was aversion of Courtney? If not can sombody tell me what the origins of it are please? and whether it couls have been used a version of Courtney. On the digitized I have found another great version of Poulagour/Paulagaur/Poulagower. The latest is Baulagaure used in a transcription of record from 1788. In fairness the "B" could have been a flourish of the pen for the "P". It all adds to the richness of the search. Regards to all Finbar *

Finbar, List, Courtney is the anglicized version of Cournane..also up around Glenbeigh and Castlemaine it's Coornane. I've seen Curnane, Courtayne, etc. I was told that Crean can be a form of Courtney but rarely. Happy,Healthy 2011, Helen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Finbar O Mahony Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:12 PM To: irl-kerry Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Cournane *May I wish all Kerry-roots listers a happy New Year. Does anybody know whether the name Cournane as it appeared in Glenns/Poulagour in the 1780-90s was aversion of Courtney? If not can sombody tell me what the origins of it are please? and whether it couls have been used a version of Courtney. On the digitized I have found another great version of Poulagour/Paulagaur/Poulagower. The latest is Baulagaure used in a transcription of record from 1788. In fairness the "B" could have been a flourish of the pen for the "P". It all adds to the richness of the search. Regards to all Finbar * _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The General Records Office in Ireland should have this record-ask them about how to search the 1950's http://www.groireland.ie/ Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Coffey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:34 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] re; looking for a marriage > Hi Is there a web site that I can look at marriages for the 1950's in > Kerry? > I found an english one that does free searches for births, deaths and > marriages that has some transcribed , I am trying to locate a marriage for > a > family member Mary Riordan of Rangue in 1950's ,she was born in 1932 > Killorglin, thanks Caroline > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd like to second the New Years' greetings to the list. And, as long as Finbar brought up the subject of variant spellings. . . . My Reidys came from Meenleitrim North townland in Castleisland Civil Parish, formerly Brosna R.C. parish, now Knocknagoshel R.C. since 1916. Occasionally, though, I see a phonetical spelling along the order of "Beenleitrim." Are the letters "M" and "B" pronounced somewhat similarly in Irish? They are kinda of similar if your nose is really stuffed up, especially a "terminal M." "P" and "B" are very similar in English. Ray Marshall In balmy Minneapolis where after 6 snow emergencies and record snowfalls in December, it rained today. I carried my umbrella with me when I went out. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Finbar O Mahony Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:13 PM To: irl-kerry Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Cournane *May I wish all Kerry-roots listers a happy New Year. On the digitized I have found another great version of Poulagour/Paulagaur/Poulagower. The latest is Baulagaure used in a transcription of record from 1788. In fairness the "B" could have been a flourish of the pen for the "P". It all adds to the richness of the search. Regards to all Finbar

Thanks to the digitized parish records I have been able to add a generation to my O'Leary family history.  I now have William O'Leary married to Mary Madden.  I estimate they were born about 1790. They lived in Ballinclogher in the parish of Lixnaw.  There children are Margaret, Edmund, Eugene and James.  Is anyone else connected or have any information? Thanks, Kay Wood North Salt Lake, Utah

Hi Is there a web site that I can look at marriages for the 1950's in Kerry? I found an english one that does free searches for births, deaths and marriages that has some transcribed , I am trying to locate a marriage for a family member Mary Riordan of Rangue in 1950's ,she was born in 1932 Killorglin, thanks Caroline

One-step tools: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ Gold - "enhanced" form: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellisgold.html? Kate in Chicago

Caroline Do you have any dates for Daniel Riodan and Abbie Foley -it might help to narrow the search. Regards Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Coffey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:20 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] re; Riordan's from Killorglin > Hi I am trying to locate any Riordan family from Rangue Killorglin for > my husband his grandparents were Daniel Riordan married to Abbie Foley. > Thanks Caroline > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 310 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=Riordan&location=Rangue&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Coffey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] re; Riordan's from Killorglin > Hi I am trying to locate any Riordan family from Rangue Killorglin for > my husband his grandparents were Daniel Riordan married to Abbie Foley. > Thanks Caroline > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am trying to locate any Riordan family from Rangue Killorglin for my husband his grandparents were Daniel Riordan married to Abbie Foley. Thanks Caroline

With the help of the list I have found two families in the USA who are from the same family as my Margaret Cronin who married Timothy Mahony in Killarney in 1818. I now have a connection to the Donoghues of Glenfleesk (Shroneboy). Regards Finbar