Florence Do you have any dates for your great grandmother - it may be possible to find her birth/baptism on www.irishgenealogy.ie. I would agree that it is possibly Listry. Regards Clare On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Florence simon <fs21@att.net> wrote: > Does anyone know of a village named Listory, County, Kerry? > My great grandmother's grave stone reads (born in Listory Co. of Kerry) > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Probably, Listry which is between Killarney and Milltown. Regards Fintan www.myirishancestry.com ------------------------------ On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 22:24 BST Florence simon wrote: >Does anyone know of a village named Listory, County, Kerry? >My great grandmother's grave stone reads  (born in Listory Co. of Kerry) >_______________ >--------------- > >Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > >To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > >To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > >Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know of a village named Listory, County, Kerry? My great grandmother's grave stone reads  (born in Listory Co. of Kerry)

In case anyone might be connected to this particular Sullivan/O'Sullivan family (among the numerous Sullivans of Kerry), there is a long, detailed, interesting obit in today's Washington Post that includes this info: "Michael Joseph O’Sullivan was born Jan. 9, 1932, in Kilgarvan, in a mountainous area of County Kerry, Ireland, one of six children. Two sisters survive. He decided in high school to be a priest. He attended St. Kieran’s seminary in Kilkenny, Ireland, and in 1955 was ordained. He asked for duty as “a missionary any place in the English-speaking world” and was posted to Washington. After serving at St. Camillus Church in Silver Spring and Nativity Catholic Church in the District, he was assigned to St. Peter’s." http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/michael-osullivan-parish-priest-and-capitol-hill-presence-dies-at-81/2013/04/13/886d4c92-a3ad-11e2-9c03-6952ff305f35_story.html

Janet, These sites may help: The Tithe Applotment Books are a vital source for genealogical research for the pre-Famine period. They cover 1823 and 1837. http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp and Griffith's Valuation Kerry-Barony returns of Iraghticonnor being published in 1851, Clanmaurice, Corkaguiny, Dunkerron North, Dunkerron South, Glanerought, & Iveragh were published in 1852, 2 largest (in terms of population) Baronies of Magunihy and Trughanacmy being published in 1853 http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ Also, you may find The Desmond Survey interesting: " The surveys which are known as the Desmond and Peyton Surveys were undertaken by commissioners appointed in 1584 to inquire into the lands forfeited as a result of the Desmond Rebellion." http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/E580000-001/index.html Enjoy -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Janet Lippelman <jansgen@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > I am new to your list and would like to post my family names. > > I am looking for any information on Dennis DESMOND born 1811 in Ireland. > His parents were Patrick DESMOND and Ellen or Helen O'DONNELL. Dennis > married Margarete? and had the following children in Canada: > Patrick born 1845 in Canada > Ellen born about 1843 in Canada > Margarete born about 1847 in Canada. > > By 1850 they were living in Cincinnati Ohio. Can anyone tell me if there > were DESMOND or O'DONNELL families living in County Kerry Ireland in the > early 1800's? I have looked for them in County Cork without much luck. > > Thank you, > Janet > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Janet, I am related to Donnelly's in County Kerry. My 4x great grandmother Julia Donnelly born circa 1790, wife of James Kerrisk/Healy. Their son Daniel was born 1811 in Coolcaslagh. They moved to Beenathuane, Killeentierna, where more children were born. My other 4x great grandmother Ellen Donnelly born circa 1795 wife of Cornelius Foran, daughter Nora born 1820, they lived in Teernaboul(next to Coolcaslagh). I have a marriage record for Nora Foran/Daniel Healy stating they needed a dispensation to wed. I believe the 2 women were niece and aunt. I can prove without a doubt that Daniel was indeed the son of Julia Donnelly, he died in Worcester, MA 1895, mother was Julia O'Donnell. Nora Foran I have less solid proof but I have researched all the children of Cornelius Foran/Ellen Donnelly and all indications point to her records being correct. The researcher that sent the marriage record believes the 2 woman were related. There is another Donnelly in the Teernaboul/Coolcaslagh area, a Margaret, I have yet to determine how she relates to Julia and Ellen Donnelly. I have no Desmonds' on any of my records nor in my immigrant database. Helen -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Lippelman Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:58 PM To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] DESMOND By 1850 they were living in Cincinnati Ohio. Can anyone tell me if there were DESMOND or O'DONNELL families living in County Kerry Ireland in the early 1800's? I have looked for them in County Cork without much luck. Thank you, Janet _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am new to your list and would like to post my family names. I am looking for any information on Dennis DESMOND born 1811 in Ireland. His parents were Patrick DESMOND and Ellen or Helen O'DONNELL. Dennis married Margarete? and had the following children in Canada: Patrick born 1845 in Canada Ellen born about 1843 in Canada Margarete born about 1847 in Canada. By 1850 they were living in Cincinnati Ohio. Can anyone tell me if there were DESMOND or O'DONNELL families living in County Kerry Ireland in the early 1800's? I have looked for them in County Cork without much luck. Thank you, Janet

I found this obit in Phila.inquire newspaper. I have no connection to it Cathrine Fedigen wife of james Fedigen, daughter of Micheal an Joanna of Tralee, county Kerry Ireland. oct 30 1913 Immaculaie Conseption Church, Holy Cross cemetary. Lorri

I noticed this on the irishgenealogy,ie site. Marriage of JEREMIAH CHARLES SUGRE of KIPPAGH and ELEANOR MAHONY of NR on 30 May 1800 Parish/Church/Congregation - KILLORGLIN Area - KERRY RC Hope this helps. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> To: <Ib4eexcept@aol.com> Cc: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] SUGRUE http://www.clannosiochru.com/index.shtml Hello Eileen, I guess like many names if you go back enough generations then they often have the same place of origin and were therefore possibly all related. The above link is dedicated to members of the O’Siochrú Clann scattered in several countries around the world. There are a great number of ways to spell SUGRUE etc. The site gives an overview to the history of the name. Regards Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Ib4eexcept@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:43 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] SUGRUE One of my g-g-grandmothers is Mary SUGRUE. If I"ve found the correct marriage, she was from Glaantane/Glantane, near the town of Ballynane on the Dingle Peninsula -- so a fairly long distance from Ardfert but it's just a short distance across the water to Dromavalla. Is it known whether the SUGRUEs from Glantane were related to either of these other families? Below is possible marriage of my Mary SUGRUE - note that Prior parish includes Dungegan which is where Michael & Mary settled, but this record may be a different couple, as my Michael would be about age 34 in 1854: County Kerry, Prior [Catholic] parish Marriage Register 1851-1860, : 25 Feb 1854 Michael Sullivan & Mary Sughrue; [bride] from townland: Glaantane [aka Glantane]; witnesses: Daniel Moran & Irasmes Bagn_ {Bartholomew SHEA}; {clergy Rev. Patrick Foley} Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Best, Eileen _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have added men who joined the Irish Constabulary in 1857. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/kerry/military.htm Thanks, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

Hi Trish, When I visited Parish of Kilgarvan I went to the local tourist book store in the largest town.Happened to be Kenmare. I found great little books authored by locals on the subject .Staying in the town really helped as well. While there to find answers of any questions you may have the local grocery store is THE place to go. I got a phone number of the local town historian who came to see us at a local cafe. The local cafe had books as well I looked at. -- Everyone knew everyone, there are only 200 some people living in the town of Slaghts. Have fun! Donna Marstrander Fyrstikkalleen 15A 0661 Oslo +47 407 28 254

http://www.clannosiochru.com/index.shtml Hello Eileen, I guess like many names if you go back enough generations then they often have the same place of origin and were therefore possibly all related. The above link is dedicated to members of the O’Siochrú Clann scattered in several countries around the world. There are a great number of ways to spell SUGRUE etc. The site gives an overview to the history of the name. Regards Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Ib4eexcept@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:43 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] SUGRUE One of my g-g-grandmothers is Mary SUGRUE. If I"ve found the correct marriage, she was from Glaantane/Glantane, near the town of Ballynane on the Dingle Peninsula -- so a fairly long distance from Ardfert but it's just a short distance across the water to Dromavalla. Is it known whether the SUGRUEs from Glantane were related to either of these other families? Below is possible marriage of my Mary SUGRUE - note that Prior parish includes Dungegan which is where Michael & Mary settled, but this record may be a different couple, as my Michael would be about age 34 in 1854: County Kerry, Prior [Catholic] parish Marriage Register 1851-1860, : 25 Feb 1854 Michael Sullivan & Mary Sughrue; [bride] from townland: Glaantane [aka Glantane]; witnesses: Daniel Moran & Irasmes Bagn_ {Bartholomew SHEA}; {clergy Rev. Patrick Foley} Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Best, Eileen

Trish, through Google, I found this information. It was on Radio Kerry.ie, posted in 2004. I'll bet Doon Church may be the church you are looking for: A CALL HAS BEEN MADE TO RE – EXAMINE THE PROPOSED SALE OF DOON CHURCH IN BALLYBUNION.THE BARN CHURCH WHICH DATES BACK TO 1830 HAS FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR AND THE COUNCIL HAS SERVED A DERELICT BUILDINGS NOTICE ON THE OWNERS BALLYBUNION DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.AN AGM OF THE COMPANY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO PROCEED WITH THE SALE BUT MEMBERS WILL BE CONSULTED AGAIN BEFORE ANY SALE CAN BE CONCLUDED.HOWEVER ACCORDINGTO PADRAIG O SULLIVAN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS SELLING PART OF THE TOWNS HISTORY. ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:00:02 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:04:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Trish and Dan Andrae <dtandrae@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Church in Ballybunnion To: Kerry List <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1364907857.43771.YahooMailRC@web181201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All this talk of churches reminded me to ask about the church where my great-grandfather, Michael Sullivan, was baptized on June 14, 1839. (I found this information on the webpage: http://www.irishgenealogy.ie) St. John's church is the current church in Ballybunnion, but it is a newer church -- late 1800s. Would it have been the church in 1839? And would there be any records at the present church going back that far? I plan to visit the area in Sept. of this year. The four Sullivan "children" -- Daniel, Michael, Mary and Patrick -- came to the U.S. when they were young -- about 1862. The family stories are vague -- either the rest of the family died in the famine or were cleared off their land and could no longer make a living. They never went back to Ireland. Any help on the Church? Thanks, Trish To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 ****************************************

One of my g-g-grandmothers is Mary SUGRUE. If I"ve found the correct marriage, she was from Glaantane/Glantane, near the town of Ballynane on the Dingle Peninsula -- so a fairly long distance from Ardfert but it's just a short distance across the water to Dromavalla. Is it known whether the SUGRUEs from Glantane were related to either of these other families? Below is possible marriage of my Mary SUGRUE - note that Prior parish includes Dungegan which is where Michael & Mary settled, but this record may be a different couple, as my Michael would be about age 34 in 1854: County Kerry, Prior [Catholic] parish Marriage Register 1851-1860, : 25 Feb 1854 Michael Sullivan & Mary Sughrue; [bride] from townland: Glaantane [aka Glantane]; witnesses: Daniel Moran & Irasmes Bagn_ {Bartholomew SHEA}; {clergy Rev. Patrick Foley} Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Best, Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> > To: "REG VOLK" <regvolk@shaw.ca>; <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > > >> Hello Reg, >> The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius SUGRUE and Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. Mary SUGRUE died on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in the Ellesmere Catholic Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New Zealand. >> Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by her sisters Ellen and Catherine. >> My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the Lady Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE. >> To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from Ardfert were close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the Parish of Ballymacelligott. >> My query was ? had any person on the list heard the Catholic Church in Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the Immaculate Conception. >> With thanks >> Jenny >> >> From: REG VOLK >> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM >> To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? >> >> So...who would this person be? >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY >> >> >> Reg

Patsy, I think you are right. I have looked at it on Google Earth and have been directed to some pictures taken in the last year, so I believe it didn't fall victim to the wrecking ball! I will definitely search it out when we are there in September. Interesting that Padraig O'Sullivan was quoted in your article. My gr grandfather's father was Patrick O'Sullivan (mother was Mary Kiely)! I've been told though that "Sullivans are thick on the ground in Kerry." Thanks for your help! Trish ________________________________ From: "n2genealogy@comcast.net" <n2genealogy@comcast.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, April 3, 2013 11:11:43 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 Trish, through Google, I found this information. It was on Radio Kerry.ie, posted in 2004. I'll bet Doon Church may be the church you are looking for: A CALL HAS BEEN MADE TO RE – EXAMINE THE PROPOSED SALE OF DOON CHURCH IN BALLYBUNION.THE BARN CHURCH WHICH DATES BACK TO 1830 HAS FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR AND THE COUNCIL HAS SERVED A DERELICT BUILDINGS NOTICE ON THE OWNERS BALLYBUNION DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.AN AGM OF THE COMPANY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO PROCEED WITH THE SALE BUT MEMBERS WILL BE CONSULTED AGAIN BEFORE ANY SALE CAN BE CONCLUDED.HOWEVER ACCORDINGTO PADRAIG O SULLIVAN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS SELLING PART OF THE TOWNS HISTORY. ~Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:00:02 AM Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:04:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Trish and Dan Andrae <dtandrae@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Church in Ballybunnion To: Kerry List <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1364907857.43771.YahooMailRC@web181201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All this talk of churches reminded me to ask about the church where my great-grandfather, Michael Sullivan, was baptized on June 14, 1839. (I found this information on the webpage: http://www.irishgenealogy.ie) St. John's church is the current church in Ballybunnion, but it is a newer church -- late 1800s. Would it have been the church in 1839? And would there be any records at the present church going back that far? I plan to visit the area in Sept. of this year. The four Sullivan "children" -- Daniel, Michael, Mary and Patrick -- came to the U.S. when they were young -- about 1862. The family stories are vague -- either the rest of the family died in the famine or were cleared off their land and could no longer make a living. They never went back to Ireland. Any help on the Church? Thanks, Trish To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 53 **************************************** _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a church listed in the parish of Ballymacelligott referred to as the Immaculate Conception - refer the Diocese of Kerry website http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?sec=mass_times&parish=Ballymacelligott Not sure of the address but Google should find it. Brian Christchurch NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> To: "REG VOLK" <regvolk@shaw.ca>; <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > Hello Reg, > The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius SUGRUE and > Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. Mary SUGRUE died > on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in the Ellesmere Catholic > Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New Zealand. > Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by her > sisters Ellen and Catherine. > My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the Lady > Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE. > To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from Ardfert were > close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the Parish of > Ballymacelligott. > My query was – had any person on the list heard the Catholic Church in > Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the Immaculate > Conception. > With thanks > Jenny > > From: REG VOLK > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM > To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > > So...who would this person be? > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY > > > Reg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2013-04-01, at 1:48 PM, REG VOLK <regvolk@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Maybe try them directly: > > http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott > > > Reg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2013-04-01, at 1:03 PM, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: > > > In the 1940 New Zealand probate of my 80 year old great grandmother > Mary > (DUGGAN) SUGRUE, her daughter (my great aunt) signed an affidavit > stating my > great aunt had seen a Baptismal Certificate for my great grandmother > Mary > DUGGAN who had been Baptised on 7th October 1860 at the Church of the > Immaculate Conception in Ballymacelligott County Kerry. > This Baptismal certificate does not appear to still be in the family > and the > record does not appear in the Kerry Parish Records - there are no or > very > few pre 1868 records for Ballymacelligott on that site. > However I have no doubts that Mary DUGGAN SUGRUE did indeed on her > emigration to NZ in 1878 take her Baptismal Certificate with her from > Kerry > to her new home in New Zealand. > I have to date not seen where the church at Ballymacelligott was named > The > Church of the Immaculate Conception. Has anyone every seen reference to > the > Church at Ballymacelligott having that name? > With thanks > Jenny > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is interesting thanks Brian. The Foundation Stone for the present Catholic Church at Geraldine (South Canterbury, New Zealand) was laid on 8th December 1935. The Church at Geraldine is the Church of the Immaculate Conception. I know there were many from the Ballymacelligott Parish in Kerry who immigrated to the Geraldine area in New Zealand - including my great grandparents and other relations. Makes you wonder if the Geraldine church was named by some of those early immigrants from Ballymacelligott in memory of their church at 'home'. With thanks. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Brian Moriarty Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:25 PM To: jagb@mcmedia.com.au ; REG VOLK ; IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? There is a church listed in the parish of Ballymacelligott referred to as the Immaculate Conception - refer the Diocese of Kerry website http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?sec=mass_times&parish=Ballymacelligott Not sure of the address but Google should find it. Brian Christchurch NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> To: "REG VOLK" <regvolk@shaw.ca>; <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > Hello Reg, > The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius SUGRUE and > Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. Mary SUGRUE died > on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in the Ellesmere Catholic > Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New Zealand. > Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by her > sisters Ellen and Catherine. > My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the Lady > Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE. > To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from Ardfert were > close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the Parish of > Ballymacelligott. > My query was – had any person on the list heard the Catholic Church in > Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the Immaculate > Conception. > With thanks > Jenny > > From: REG VOLK > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM > To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > > So...who would this person be? > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY > > > Reg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2013-04-01, at 1:48 PM, REG VOLK <regvolk@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Maybe try them directly: > > http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott > > > Reg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2013-04-01, at 1:03 PM, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: > > > In the 1940 New Zealand probate of my 80 year old great grandmother > Mary > (DUGGAN) SUGRUE, her daughter (my great aunt) signed an affidavit > stating my > great aunt had seen a Baptismal Certificate for my great grandmother > Mary > DUGGAN who had been Baptised on 7th October 1860 at the Church of the > Immaculate Conception in Ballymacelligott County Kerry. > This Baptismal certificate does not appear to still be in the family > and the > record does not appear in the Kerry Parish Records - there are no or > very > few pre 1868 records for Ballymacelligott on that site. > However I have no doubts that Mary DUGGAN SUGRUE did indeed on her > emigration to NZ in 1878 take her Baptismal Certificate with her from > Kerry > to her new home in New Zealand. > I have to date not seen where the church at Ballymacelligott was named > The > Church of the Immaculate Conception. Has anyone every seen reference to > the > Church at Ballymacelligott having that name? > With thanks > Jenny > > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a > wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is > at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Reg, The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius SUGRUE and Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. Mary SUGRUE died on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in the Ellesmere Catholic Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New Zealand. Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by her sisters Ellen and Catherine. My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the Lady Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE. To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from Ardfert were close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the Parish of Ballymacelligott. My query was – had any person on the list heard the Catholic Church in Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the Immaculate Conception. With thanks Jenny From: REG VOLK Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? So...who would this person be? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY Reg Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-01, at 1:48 PM, REG VOLK <regvolk@shaw.ca> wrote: Maybe try them directly: http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott Reg Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-01, at 1:03 PM, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: In the 1940 New Zealand probate of my 80 year old great grandmother Mary (DUGGAN) SUGRUE, her daughter (my great aunt) signed an affidavit stating my great aunt had seen a Baptismal Certificate for my great grandmother Mary DUGGAN who had been Baptised on 7th October 1860 at the Church of the Immaculate Conception in Ballymacelligott County Kerry. This Baptismal certificate does not appear to still be in the family and the record does not appear in the Kerry Parish Records - there are no or very few pre 1868 records for Ballymacelligott on that site. However I have no doubts that Mary DUGGAN SUGRUE did indeed on her emigration to NZ in 1878 take her Baptismal Certificate with her from Kerry to her new home in New Zealand. I have to date not seen where the church at Ballymacelligott was named The Church of the Immaculate Conception. Has anyone every seen reference to the Church at Ballymacelligott having that name? With thanks Jenny

Eoghan is correct, I have visited both, St. Brendan's is a very small church, no graveyard attached. The Iimmaculate Conception is a little bigger with a small graveyard, my granduncle Fr. Michael O'Donoghue was parish priest, he is buried just outside the front door. Most burials would have been in Tralee unless there was a family burial plot elsewhere. Brendan On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:46, Eoghan MacSweeny wrote: > Hi Jenny > > There are 2 churches in the parish of Ballymacelligott. One is > called St. Brendan's Church, Clogher and the other is the Church of > the Immaculate Conception, Ballymacelligott. See the Kerry discese > website for details: > > http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott > > Kind regards > > Eoghan MacSweeny > Blackrock > Cork > > On 2 Apr 2013, at 07:44, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: > >> That is interesting thanks Brian. >> The Foundation Stone for the present Catholic Church at Geraldine >> (South Canterbury, New Zealand) was laid on 8th December 1935. The >> Church at Geraldine is the Church of the Immaculate Conception. >> I know there were many from the Ballymacelligott Parish in Kerry >> who immigrated to the Geraldine area in New Zealand - including my >> great grandparents and other relations. >> Makes you wonder if the Geraldine church was named by some of those >> early immigrants from Ballymacelligott in memory of their church at >> 'home'. >> With thanks. >> Jenny >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Brian Moriarty >> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:25 PM >> To: jagb@mcmedia.com.au ; REG VOLK ; IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of >> these? >> >> There is a church listed in the parish of Ballymacelligott referred >> to as >> the Immaculate Conception - refer the Diocese of Kerry website >> http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?sec=mass_times&parish=Ballymacelligott >> >> Not sure of the address but Google should find it. >> >> Brian >> Christchurch NZ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> >> To: "REG VOLK" <regvolk@shaw.ca>; <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of >> these? >> >> >>> Hello Reg, >>> The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius >>> SUGRUE and Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. >>> Mary SUGRUE died on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in >>> the Ellesmere Catholic Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New >>> Zealand. >>> Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by >>> her sisters Ellen and Catherine. >>> My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the >>> Lady Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather >>> Timothy SUGRUE. >>> To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from >>> Ardfert were close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the >>> Parish of Ballymacelligott. >>> My query was – had any person on the list heard the Catholic >>> Church in Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the >>> Immaculate Conception. >>> With thanks >>> Jenny >>> >>> From: REG VOLK >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM >>> To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of >>> these? >>> >>> So...who would this person be? >>> >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY >>> >>> >>> Reg >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2013-04-01, at 1:48 PM, REG VOLK <regvolk@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Maybe try them directly: >>> >>> http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott >>> >>> >>> Reg >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2013-04-01, at 1:03 PM, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> >>> In the 1940 New Zealand probate of my 80 year old great >>> grandmother Mary >>> (DUGGAN) SUGRUE, her daughter (my great aunt) signed an affidavit >>> stating my >>> great aunt had seen a Baptismal Certificate for my great >>> grandmother Mary >>> DUGGAN who had been Baptised on 7th October 1860 at the Church of >>> the >>> Immaculate Conception in Ballymacelligott County Kerry. >>> This Baptismal certificate does not appear to still be in the >>> family and the >>> record does not appear in the Kerry Parish Records - there are no >>> or very >>> few pre 1868 records for Ballymacelligott on that site. >>> However I have no doubts that Mary DUGGAN SUGRUE did indeed on her >>> emigration to NZ in 1878 take her Baptismal Certificate with her >>> from Kerry >>> to her new home in New Zealand. >>> I have to date not seen where the church at Ballymacelligott was >>> named The >>> Church of the Immaculate Conception. Has anyone every seen >>> reference to the >>> Church at Ballymacelligott having that name? >>> With thanks >>> Jenny >>> >>> _______________ >>> --------------- >>> >>> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message. >>> >>> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an >>> email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message. >>> >>> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >>> >>> Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with >>> the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website >>> to reach a wide audience. 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Sorry! Just realised Brian had already posted the same link. I didn't read everything thoroughly! Regards Eoghan On 2 Apr 2013, at 07:44, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: > That is interesting thanks Brian. > The Foundation Stone for the present Catholic Church at Geraldine (South Canterbury, New Zealand) was laid on 8th December 1935. The Church at Geraldine is the Church of the Immaculate Conception. > I know there were many from the Ballymacelligott Parish in Kerry who immigrated to the Geraldine area in New Zealand - including my great grandparents and other relations. > Makes you wonder if the Geraldine church was named by some of those early immigrants from Ballymacelligott in memory of their church at 'home'. > With thanks. > Jenny > > -----Original Message----- From: Brian Moriarty > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:25 PM > To: jagb@mcmedia.com.au ; REG VOLK ; IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > > There is a church listed in the parish of Ballymacelligott referred to as > the Immaculate Conception - refer the Diocese of Kerry website > http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?sec=mass_times&parish=Ballymacelligott > > Not sure of the address but Google should find it. > > Brian > Christchurch NZ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> > To: "REG VOLK" <regvolk@shaw.ca>; <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? > > >> Hello Reg, >> The Mary SUGRUE in this record was the daughter of Cornelius SUGRUE and Catherine nee GORMAN of Commons West, Ardfert in Kerry. Mary SUGRUE died on 2 March 1892 at the age of 33 and is buried in the Ellesmere Catholic Cemetery, near Leeston in Canterbury New Zealand. >> Three years later in 1883, Mary would be joined in New Zealand by her sisters Ellen and Catherine. >> My Mary DUGGAN arrived in New Zealand in December 1879 aboard the Lady Jocelyn and in October 1880 married my great grandfather Timothy SUGRUE. >> To date I have not located any evidence that the SUGRUEs from Ardfert were close relations to my SUGRUEs from Dromavalla in the Parish of Ballymacelligott. >> My query was – had any person on the list heard the Catholic Church in Ballymacelligott being referred to as The Church of the Immaculate Conception. >> With thanks >> Jenny >> >> From: REG VOLK >> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:05 PM >> To: mailto:jagb@mcmedia.com.au >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Fwd: Has anyone ever come across one of these? >> >> So...who would this person be? >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FST2-3TY >> >> >> Reg >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2013-04-01, at 1:48 PM, REG VOLK <regvolk@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> >> Maybe try them directly: >> >> http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Ballymacelligott >> >> >> Reg >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2013-04-01, at 1:03 PM, <jagb@mcmedia.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> In the 1940 New Zealand probate of my 80 year old great grandmother Mary >> (DUGGAN) SUGRUE, her daughter (my great aunt) signed an affidavit stating my >> great aunt had seen a Baptismal Certificate for my great grandmother Mary >> DUGGAN who had been Baptised on 7th October 1860 at the Church of the >> Immaculate Conception in Ballymacelligott County Kerry. >> This Baptismal certificate does not appear to still be in the family and the >> record does not appear in the Kerry Parish Records - there are no or very >> few pre 1868 records for Ballymacelligott on that site. >> However I have no doubts that Mary DUGGAN SUGRUE did indeed on her >> emigration to NZ in 1878 take her Baptismal Certificate with her from Kerry >> to her new home in New Zealand. >> I have to date not seen where the church at Ballymacelligott was named The >> Church of the Immaculate Conception. Has anyone every seen reference to the >> Church at Ballymacelligott having that name? >> With thanks >> Jenny >> >> _______________ >> --------------- >> >> Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >> >> To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. >> >> To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ >> >> Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >