where in Galway were they from?? On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Tom Novak wrote: > I have been searching for over a year now on this dead end, and have > gotten > nowhere. I would appreciate some suggestions, please. > > Patrick Nolan (b 1822, Parish of Killiane, Galway, d 29 Mar 1900, > Jersey > City, NJ) and Catherine Naughton (b 1825, County Galway, d 12 Jul > 1893, > Jersey City, NJ) arrived at NYC 31 Jul 1849 on the Ship Cremonia. > > What is interesting is they had two daughters while in Galway: > Honora E. > Nolan (b 1846) and Bridget Nolan (b 19 May 1848). However, these two > daughters were not listed on the passenger list of the Ship > Cremonia, nor in > the Philadelphia census for 1850 (where Patrick and Catherine first > lived), > nor in the NYC Census for 1860 (where they moved after Philadelphia). > However, Patrick and Catherine (and their six boys they had in > Philadelphia > and NYC) moved to Jersey City in 1868. Bridget and Honora were on > their > census in 1870 in Jersey City. On Briget's death certificate (d 30 > May > 1931), it stated she lived in the USA for 65 years. > >> From the clues above, it appears the daughters came over about >> 1866, but I > have been unable to find any ships passenger list with them on it. > Also, > where would I find them in Ireland for the period 1849-1866? I have > written > away, and gotten records from both the East and West Galway Historical > sites, and no luck. I have searched many LDS films, again with no > luck. I > continue to search ships records from Ireland 1865-1867 for the two > daughters, but no luck. > > Help, I am at a stone wall! > > Thanks! > > Tom Novak > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I don't know. His obit said Killiane, and her obit said county Galway. East and West Historical societies did not find them. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis M. Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Dead end;need some ideas, please-Nolan and Naughton from Galway > where in Galway were they from?? > > On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Tom Novak wrote: > >> I have been searching for over a year now on this dead end, and have >> gotten >> nowhere. I would appreciate some suggestions, please. >> >> Patrick Nolan (b 1822, Parish of Killiane, Galway, d 29 Mar 1900, >> Jersey >> City, NJ) and Catherine Naughton (b 1825, County Galway, d 12 Jul >> 1893, >> Jersey City, NJ) arrived at NYC 31 Jul 1849 on the Ship Cremonia. >> >> What is interesting is they had two daughters while in Galway: >> Honora E. >> Nolan (b 1846) and Bridget Nolan (b 19 May 1848). However, these two >> daughters were not listed on the passenger list of the Ship >> Cremonia, nor in >> the Philadelphia census for 1850 (where Patrick and Catherine first >> lived), >> nor in the NYC Census for 1860 (where they moved after Philadelphia). >> However, Patrick and Catherine (and their six boys they had in >> Philadelphia >> and NYC) moved to Jersey City in 1868. Bridget and Honora were on >> their >> census in 1870 in Jersey City. On Briget's death certificate (d 30 >> May >> 1931), it stated she lived in the USA for 65 years. >> >>> From the clues above, it appears the daughters came over about >>> 1866, but I >> have been unable to find any ships passenger list with them on it. >> Also, >> where would I find them in Ireland for the period 1849-1866? I have >> written >> away, and gotten records from both the East and West Galway Historical >> sites, and no luck. I have searched many LDS films, again with no >> luck. I >> continue to search ships records from Ireland 1865-1867 for the two >> daughters, but no luck. >> >> Help, I am at a stone wall! >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tom Novak >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I paid them money and got nothing a long time ago but now they have ALL the records in Rosscommon O'm going over in a year and I will be hitting that for my grand-mom. I want to file for duel citizenship On Dec 30, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Tom Novak wrote: > I don't know. His obit said Killiane, and her obit said county > Galway. > East and West Historical societies did not find them. > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phyllis M. Phillips" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Dead end;need some ideas, please-Nolan and > Naughton from Galway > > >> where in Galway were they from?? >> >> On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Tom Novak wrote: >> >>> I have been searching for over a year now on this dead end, and have >>> gotten >>> nowhere. I would appreciate some suggestions, please. >>> >>> Patrick Nolan (b 1822, Parish of Killiane, Galway, d 29 Mar 1900, >>> Jersey >>> City, NJ) and Catherine Naughton (b 1825, County Galway, d 12 Jul >>> 1893, >>> Jersey City, NJ) arrived at NYC 31 Jul 1849 on the Ship Cremonia. >>> >>> What is interesting is they had two daughters while in Galway: >>> Honora E. >>> Nolan (b 1846) and Bridget Nolan (b 19 May 1848). However, these >>> two >>> daughters were not listed on the passenger list of the Ship >>> Cremonia, nor in >>> the Philadelphia census for 1850 (where Patrick and Catherine first >>> lived), >>> nor in the NYC Census for 1860 (where they moved after >>> Philadelphia). >>> However, Patrick and Catherine (and their six boys they had in >>> Philadelphia >>> and NYC) moved to Jersey City in 1868. Bridget and Honora were on >>> their >>> census in 1870 in Jersey City. On Briget's death certificate (d 30 >>> May >>> 1931), it stated she lived in the USA for 65 years. >>> >>>> From the clues above, it appears the daughters came over about >>>> 1866, but I >>> have been unable to find any ships passenger list with them on it. >>> Also, >>> where would I find them in Ireland for the period 1849-1866? I have >>> written >>> away, and gotten records from both the East and West Galway >>> Historical >>> sites, and no luck. I have searched many LDS films, again with no >>> luck. I >>> continue to search ships records from Ireland 1865-1867 for the two >>> daughters, but no luck. >>> >>> Help, I am at a stone wall! >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom Novak >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Tom--I have been trying to put together all the dates with your probelm.  The times of the Great Hunger were very difficult.  People made all kinds of decisions that they and we w9ould not think posssible.   It seems to me that the two girls were quite young when the parents emigrated.  It might be possible that the parents left without them, leaving them with grandparents, relatives, or neighbors.  I'm sure that if this was the case the idea was to send for the girls in short time once the parents were established and could send money.  Maybe that took longer than they thought.   As someone else already saidm they were fortunate to join up together, even with the length of time.  Many families lost thenmselves completely   Kathleen                             t --- On Tue, 12/30/08, Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: From: Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Dead end; need some ideas, please-Nolan and Naughton from Galway To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 8:07 PM I paid them money and got nothing a long time ago but now they have ALL the records in Rosscommon O'm going over in a year and I will be hitting that for my grand-mom. I want to file for duel citizenship On Dec 30, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Tom Novak wrote: > I don't know. His obit said Killiane, and her obit said county > Galway. > East and West Historical societies did not find them. > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phyllis M. Phillips" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Dead end;need some ideas, please-Nolan and > Naughton from Galway > > >> where in Galway were they from?? >> >> On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Tom Novak wrote: >> >>> I have been searching for over a year now on this dead end, and have >>> gotten >>> nowhere. I would appreciate some suggestions, please. >>> >>> Patrick Nolan (b 1822, Parish of Killiane, Galway, d 29 Mar 1900, >>> Jersey >>> City, NJ) and Catherine Naughton (b 1825, County Galway, d 12 Jul >>> 1893, >>> Jersey City, NJ) arrived at NYC 31 Jul 1849 on the Ship Cremonia. >>> >>> What is interesting is they had two daughters while in Galway: >>> Honora E. >>> Nolan (b 1846) and Bridget Nolan (b 19 May 1848). However, these >>> two >>> daughters were not listed on the passenger list of the Ship >>> Cremonia, nor in >>> the Philadelphia census for 1850 (where Patrick and Catherine first >>> lived), >>> nor in the NYC Census for 1860 (where they moved after >>> Philadelphia). >>> However, Patrick and Catherine (and their six boys they had in >>> Philadelphia >>> and NYC) moved to Jersey City in 1868. Bridget and Honora were on >>> their >>> census in 1870 in Jersey City. On Briget's death certificate (d 30 >>> May >>> 1931), it stated she lived in the USA for 65 years. >>> >>>> From the clues above, it appears the daughters came over about >>>> 1866, but I >>> have been unable to find any ships passenger list with them on it. >>> Also, >>> where would I find them in Ireland for the period 1849-1866? I have >>> written >>> away, and gotten records from both the East and West Galway >>> Historical >>> sites, and no luck. I have searched many LDS films, again with no >>> luck. I >>> continue to search ships records from Ireland 1865-1867 for the two >>> daughters, but no luck. >>> >>> Help, I am at a stone wall! >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom Novak >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message