Hi DBlair7596 Many thanks for the pointer to the West Galway Family History site, which in fact lists two Church Baptism Records for Edward Charles Howell in 1884 (and not as we believed 1885). And both Records are for my grandfather: * The first Record I presume is his birth registration on 12 May 1884 in the Parish/District of Army Galway C of I, and * The second is his Baptism the same day at St Nicholas' Church (C of I) On both Records the parents are Charles William and Agnes Howell, Edward's parents, and the address given is College Road. The really great surprise is Charles is down as a Sergeant with the 12th Regiment (of what as yet undetermined, but probably Artillery), as we understood him to have been a civilian Master Butcher working in Army Garrisons in which Agnes taught school. Oh the joys of genealogy - back to the drawing board on this one . . . Once again, many thanks for the pointer, and to the members of IRL-GALWAY too - bless you all. Kind regards, Pete [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Peter JW Howell) > 2. Re: 88th Connaught Rangers (Joy Dean) > 3. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Phyllis M. Phillips) > 5. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Declan Barron) > 6. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Phyllis M. Phillips) > 7. Patrick O'Malley-Calla (Teri Rehurek) > 8. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:46:10 +0000 > From: Peter JW Howell <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear [email protected], > > >From the England 1911 Census I have found out that my grandfather, > Edward Charles Howell, was born in Galway. Edward's date of birth is 13 > May, 1885. > > Edward's mother Agnes Howell, formally Cambridge and herself born in > Athlone in 1859, a daughter of Master Gunner Daniel Cambridge VC, Yeoman > of the Guard, was a Certified Teacher and she taught in Army Garrison > Schools in Ireland in the 1880's and 1890's. > > I can only find one reference to a Garrison in County Galway, and that > is at Renmore, Galway City. > > The only reason I have for Agnes, her husband Charles William Howell and > their daughter May (born 1882 in Woolwich, Kent) being in Galway for the > birth of grandfather Edward is for Agnes to have been a teacher there, > and hence my assumption at Renmore. > > I found a fascinating document on t'internet of the origins of Renmore > Golf Club, which includes an Ordnance map of the Barracks and its > environs showing the Garrison's School, Hospital and Roman Catholic > Church - http://www.galwaygolf.com/historyFiles/chapter1/Chapter%201.pdf > > And looking at GoogleEarth the School and Hospital buildings still > exists, as does the Church, construction of which I understand began in > 1884. The Church continues as the Garrison Church today. > > So my thoughts at the moment are if Agnes did indeed teach at Renmore > Garrison then her son Edward, my grandfather, may have been born in the > Garrison Hospital and christened in the Garrison Church if the building > and consecration of the Church had been completed by mid May 1885. If > this be so then Edward would have been one of the first to be christened > there. > > I have written to the Curator at the Military Museum//, Dun Ui > Mhaoiliosa, Renmore Barracks, and I await his/her response in the > greatest of anticipation. > > Meanwhile, I will be extremely and eternally grateful if anyone can > point me towards other sources of information in Galway which may help > me to confirm my grandfather's place of birth. > > With best wishes. > > Kind regards, > > Pete > > > Peter Howell > Armitage U.K. > > http://crossforvalour-vc.webs.com/index.htm// > > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:48:08 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Peter, At the West Galway Family History site there is only one Edward > Charles HOWELL listed and its for 1884. Its only 5 EUROS at their online > site, no mailing and instant. Good luck I hope this helps. > **************