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    1. RE: [GALWAY] Re: Townland help request
    2. Laurel Baker
    3. I've checked the parish histories for Kilmacduagh and Kiltartan and there was mention of a Patrick Concannon listed in Kinincha in 1856 (Kiltartan parish). There was no mention of a Kane's pound but neither books' index is complete so you'd have to read the books to make sure (both worthwhile pasttimes but time consuming). There's reference to a pound in Kiltartan parish which would be nearby - from the description it served as the local livestock market area. Also found no one named Kane, but there were Keanes in the Lisatunna area around 1830 & 40, and Coen's and Keane's in Ballinamantan from about 1880. Don't know if the following will help, but apparently, the locals in both Kilmacduagh and Kiltartan had a habit of naming fields and other local places so Kilbeacanty probably did the same. Some of the named areas were likely not on the six-inch maps either, for example: Cnoc a'Tóchair (hill of the stepping stones, which was located "at the top of the hill, facing Deerpark between the McAllen's and Josie Curley's"), Barnageeha (Wind gap, the old name for the area covered by Lavally North and Rinneen South). Another possibility, though possibly remote, is that since much of the South Galway area is full of turloughs it refers to a seasonal pond area instead of a pound - I saw a map of some of the named turloughs on display when I was at Coole Park 2 weeks ago but can't recall if it was just of the Coole estate or if it also included the surrounding area. Pete, if you'd like the complete list of field names given for Kiltartan for your database just let me know and I'll copy them out for you. Also, Sister may be able to put you in touch with the Ms. Egan who supplied her with the names as there are apparently many many more that were not included in her book. You can reach Sister Fahy (and get her book) at the Kiltartan Gregory Museum. Laurie searching for O'Shaughnessy, any spelling, any time, anywhere -----Original Message----- From: PeteScherm@aol.com [mailto:PeteScherm@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:17 PM To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GALWAY] Re: Townland help request Linda at LMJack15@aol.com writes: << In searching parish records for Kilbeacanty, I came across a townland I can't seem to locate. It is Kanes Pound (was also written as Kanespound, Kane's Pound). >> Linda, It looks as if this will be a tough one. My usual "sources" haven't been much help thus far (but that only encourages me <gr>). I also looked for a townland which might have had an Irish equivalent (po/na for pound, e.g.). And, as you probably have already discovered, the search engines aren't much help. I have been wondering if such a location might exist on the "outskirts" of Gort town (Kilbeacanty civil parish approaches Gort quite closely on the east side). I've also wondered whether this might be related to the Lough Cutra Demesne - which was an extensive estate in the 1800's. I have been playing-with a similar situation in Co. Longford, and am progressing (a bit) with the (unsure) assumption that there may have been a change in the local name for the townland itself.......and have been going through on-line records of that parish at that time, and trying to eliminate townland names until I have winnowed the selection down to a few possibilities (not an easy task for someone who doesn't do any genealogy <gr>). Then I might be able to suggest candidates for the altered names. Have you tried to take the 20 or 30 townlands in Kilbeacanty civil parish, and eliminating the various townland names which DO appear in your lists - and see what's left-over at the end of the 'battle'? That might be helpful..... but probably only if we're talking about an entire townland. In any case, I'm hoping for a brainstorm in the near future, which might give me a clue. Other than that unlikely possibility, all I can suggest is that Kane's Pound is a particular local name for a portion of a (probably) large townland. We need more people with the old six-inch maps to make their presence known....and help us out here !!!! Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== NETSCAPE questions or expertise???? mailto:Netscape-L-request@rootsweb.com To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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