Hello Simon, Is this your family in 1891, living in the Civil parish of Swannington, Ecclesiastical parish of St Andrew, County of Leicestershire? Or is this the "different" family you mentioned? If this is not your family, could you provide more details, such as names and approximate birthdates of children? Names Age Where born Rel. to Head Allen, Martin 30 Irl [Occupation: Coal Miner] Allen, Bridgett 28 Irl Wife Allen, John 6 Whitwick, Leicestershire Son Allen, Margaret 4 Whitwick, Leicestershire Daughter Allen, Joseph 2 Swannington, Leicestershire Son Allen, Maud 7/12 Swannington, Leicestershire Daughter Reference: RG12/2513 Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Whitwick ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 24 Page: 42 [Ancestry.com. 1891 England Census. Provo, UT: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Indexed by MyFamily.com, Inc. from microfilmed schedules of the England 1891 Census. Data imaged from The National Archives, London, England. 2,131 rolls.] I have a subscription to ancestry.com which allows access to several English censuses. Some indexing has been done, with images linked so that you can view an image of the original microfilm of the census. If this is your family and you do not have a subscription, I can extract the rest of the information and try to find them in the earlier online censuses to which I have access. If your family moved to Ireland between 1881 and 1891, they would not be in the 1881 census and therefore would not be in the index and extraction of that census that appears on the familysearch.org website. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA At 05:59 AM 1/7/05, Allen Simon JCP CASE LOAD ADVISER wrote: >Having recently started tracing my family history I've found that my great >grandparents moved to the Midlands in England in the 2nd half of the >1800's from Tuam in Galway. Being a novice at this kind of thing I'm >looking for any help I can find to help trace them I don't even know >precisely when they left Tuam and cannot link them directly to the 3 >Allen's I have so far found in Tuam. >My great Grandparents are Martin Allen and Bridget Allen who according to >1901 census were born in Tuam in 1863/4. I'm having difficulty finding >references for them on the earlier census' online and Familysearch.org >seems to lead to a different Martin & Bridget Allen. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. >Regards >Simon Allen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/05