Thank you, too, to Geralyn Barry. That was very interesting information. Joy > From: "Joy Dean" <jsdean47@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Killererin > Thank you for all the replies, and to Peter especially for the >>>From about the 1850's to almost 1920 the Church of Ireland in the >> area of Tuam maintained numerous small churches. The >> largest church was St. Mary's Cathedral in Tuam itself. >> In 1860 St. Mary's was much smaller than today. As St. Mary's grew >> the smaller churches in the area folded into St. Mary's. >> Eventually all the records from most of these smaller >> satellite churches went to St. Mary's. >> >> In the 1990's most of St. Mary's records went to the >> Church of Ireland's library in Dublin. Some records >> still exist at St. Mary's. One book is missing. >> >> If you ever get to St. Mary's look up Jarleth Canney. >> He is a local historian on Church of Ireland history >> in the area. He used to be the custodian at St. Mary's.> > > Perhaps I ought to write to Jarleth Canney. And I should have gone to St. > Mary's when I visited Galway a couple of years ago. How much would anyone > bet that the baptisms for Francis, William and John McCusker could be in > the > missing book?! :-) - they were born about 1858 and 1862 (from army > records) > and 1865 from a birth certificate. > > Joy > > >> Thank you for your reply. Killererin is just about two miles south east >> of >> Tuam - on the map here: >> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killererin+galway&daddr=a >> thenry+galway&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&vps=1&sll=53.344813,-8.973083&sspn=0.200 >> 044,0.596008&ie=UTF8 >> >> Joy > > > >>> From: "Joy Dean" <jsdean47@aol.com> >>> My great-great-uncles came from Killererin, two of whom were born before >>> civil registration. Would Killererin have a church where they would have >>> been baptised? They were Church of Ireland. >>> Thank you. >>> Joy > > > From: PeteScherm@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Killererin > Maire asks: > > === Where is Pete with his maps? === > > I'm here - but I'm spending the day listening to the election results. I > was in Ireland during an election in the 90's, and loved it. I love all > of > the reporting, the tallymen, the quotas, etc. A great election system. > > I tried to get all of my information together this morning in order to > reply before the election results started.....but I was having trouble > finding a > C of I church in the Tuam C of I parish other than the obvious St. Mary's > Cathedral in Tuam itself. So I decided to wait a day for more > information. > And Peter Mitchell helped supply that, with: "From about the 1850's to > almost 1920 the Church of Ireland in the area of Tuam maintained numerous > small > churches." > > I have information from various books/maps, but the only mention I could > find of a C of I church outside of St. Mary's is a reference in Brian > Mitchell's "Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". He lists a C of I > church, and > attached cemetery, in the townland of Lissavally, in Killererin civil > parish. I can't find any mention of this in my books, nor is it shown on > the > Townland Index maps of the mid-1800's, nor is it mentioned in the > Archaeological > Inventory of North Galway (the newer churches are rarely mentioned, but > essentially all of the graveyards should be included). The current > Discovery > map does show a "Graveyard" in Lissavally townland, but no indication of a > church at all. My half-inch-scale map from 1979 does show a church > "antiquity' at this Lissavally site. The AI book does not acknowledge > this graveyard, > much less the church. The Ordnance Survey letters from 1839 do not > mention > an existing, functioning C of I church in the parish at that time. But > again, the intent of these letters was to identify "Antiquities", so the > church > might not have been included. Is that sufficiently garbled and confusing? > (Don't all say "yes" at once !![gr]). > > I think that the various distance measurements are taken care of, so I'll > skip over that. > > > Pete > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > Massachusetts > </HTML> > > > From: Geralyn Barry <gbarry@proaxis.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Killererin > > Don't overlook Griffith's Valuation when trying to find out if there was a > church, chapel, meeting house or graveyard in a particular townland in the > mid-1800s. > > Following up on Pete's lead, I checked Griffith's Valuation. There are > townlands next to one another in Killererin civil parish called Lissavally > and also Lissavally Glebe. Glebe lands are a sure indication of a Church > of Ireland. The main tenants listed in Griffith's are "Rev. W. LePoer > Trench" and "Church Educ. Society", which had a school house & land > (exempted from taxation). "Rev. William Le Poer Trench" also appears in > Griffith's under Lissavally (not Glebe) as immediate lessor on lot 2a, > described as "Church and grave-yard" (and again exempt from taxes). He > also had some bog land. The immediate lessor on much of this land and > other land in these 2 townlands, which are side-by-side, was John A. > Kirwan. > > Here is a link to the OSI (Ordnance Survey of Ireland) map centered on the > church at Lissavally: > > http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,553479,747275,6,7 > > The Glebe House is across the road. Choose the Historic 6" map and zoom in > until you can see the details well. Also try toggling the Ortho 2005 and > 200 for aerial views, and "Street Map" for just a map. Many of the maps > are different at different scales, so try zooming in and out with each of > them. > > The townland boundaries appear in red on the Historic 6" map and the > townlands are clearly labeled. The Glebe House and school were in the > townland of Lissavally Glebe, and the Church itself was across the road in > the townland of Lissavally. This seems to have been the only townland in > Killererin civil parish with the word "Glebe" in its name at that time. > > Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon USA > > On 2/26/2011 9:41 AM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: >> I have information from various books/maps, but the only mention I could >> find of a C of I church outside of St. Mary's is a reference in Brian >> Mitchell's "Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". He lists a C of I >> church, and >> attached cemetery, in the townland of Lissavally, in Killererin civil >> parish. I can't find any mention of this in my books, nor is it shown on >> the >> Townland Index maps of the mid-1800's, nor is it mentioned in the >> Archaeological >> Inventory of North Galway (the newer churches are rarely mentioned, but >> essentially all of the graveyards should be included). The current >> Discovery >> map does show a "Graveyard" in Lissavally townland, but no indication of >> a >> church at all. My half-inch-scale map from 1979 does show a church >> "antiquity' at this Lissavally site. The AI book does not acknowledge >> this graveyard, >> much less the church. The Ordnance Survey letters from 1839 do not >> mention >> an existing, functioning C of I church in the parish at that time. But >> again, the intent of these letters was to identify "Antiquities", so the >> church >> might not have been included.>