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    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Killererin
    2. Maire asks: === Where is Pete with his maps? === I'm here - but I'm spending the day listening to the election results. I was in Ireland during an election in the 90's, and loved it. I love all of the reporting, the tallymen, the quotas, etc. A great election system. I tried to get all of my information together this morning in order to reply before the election results started.....but I was having trouble finding a C of I church in the Tuam C of I parish other than the obvious St. Mary's Cathedral in Tuam itself. So I decided to wait a day for more information. And Peter Mitchell helped supply that, with: "From about the 1850's to almost 1920 the Church of Ireland in the area of Tuam maintained numerous small churches." I have information from various books/maps, but the only mention I could find of a C of I church outside of St. Mary's is a reference in Brian Mitchell's "Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". He lists a C of I church, and attached cemetery, in the townland of Lissavally, in Killererin civil parish. I can't find any mention of this in my books, nor is it shown on the Townland Index maps of the mid-1800's, nor is it mentioned in the Archaeological Inventory of North Galway (the newer churches are rarely mentioned, but essentially all of the graveyards should be included). The current Discovery map does show a "Graveyard" in Lissavally townland, but no indication of a church at all. My half-inch-scale map from 1979 does show a church "antiquity' at this Lissavally site. The AI book does not acknowledge this graveyard, much less the church. The Ordnance Survey letters from 1839 do not mention an existing, functioning C of I church in the parish at that time. But again, the intent of these letters was to identify "Antiquities", so the church might not have been included. Is that sufficiently garbled and confusing? (Don't all say "yes" at once !![gr]). I think that the various distance measurements are taken care of, so I'll skip over that. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

    02/26/2011 05:41:29
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Killererin
    2. Geralyn Barry
    3. Don't overlook Griffith's Valuation when trying to find out if there was a church, chapel, meeting house or graveyard in a particular townland in the mid-1800s. Following up on Pete's lead, I checked Griffith's Valuation. There are townlands next to one another in Killererin civil parish called Lissavally and also Lissavally Glebe. Glebe lands are a sure indication of a Church of Ireland. The main tenants listed in Griffith's are "Rev. W. LePoer Trench" and "Church Educ. Society", which had a school house & land (exempted from taxation). "Rev. William Le Poer Trench" also appears in Griffith's under Lissavally (not Glebe) as immediate lessor on lot 2a, described as "Church and grave-yard" (and again exempt from taxes). He also had some bog land. The immediate lessor on much of this land and other land in these 2 townlands, which are side-by-side, was John A. Kirwan. Here is a link to the OSI (Ordnance Survey of Ireland) map centered on the church at Lissavally: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,553479,747275,6,7 The Glebe House is across the road. Choose the Historic 6" map and zoom in until you can see the details well. Also try toggling the Ortho 2005 and 200 for aerial views, and "Street Map" for just a map. Many of the maps are different at different scales, so try zooming in and out with each of them. The townland boundaries appear in red on the Historic 6" map and the townlands are clearly labeled. The Glebe House and school were in the townland of Lissavally Glebe, and the Church itself was across the road in the townland of Lissavally. This seems to have been the only townland in Killererin civil parish with the word "Glebe" in its name at that time. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon USA On 2/26/2011 9:41 AM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: > I have information from various books/maps, but the only mention I could > find of a C of I church outside of St. Mary's is a reference in Brian > Mitchell's "Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". He lists a C of I church, and > attached cemetery, in the townland of Lissavally, in Killererin civil > parish. I can't find any mention of this in my books, nor is it shown on the > Townland Index maps of the mid-1800's, nor is it mentioned in the Archaeological > Inventory of North Galway (the newer churches are rarely mentioned, but > essentially all of the graveyards should be included). The current Discovery > map does show a "Graveyard" in Lissavally townland, but no indication of a > church at all. My half-inch-scale map from 1979 does show a church > "antiquity' at this Lissavally site. The AI book does not acknowledge this graveyard, > much less the church. The Ordnance Survey letters from 1839 do not mention > an existing, functioning C of I church in the parish at that time. But > again, the intent of these letters was to identify "Antiquities", so the church > might not have been included.

    02/26/2011 03:43:42