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    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] -Seneschal
    2. Meaning of seneshcal. I would interrpret this as Clanriccarde's agent who acted in his absence dealing with tenant complants disputes etc paying his bill and acting on his behalf on all matters relating to his estate. Agents collected rents etc evicted people and did everyting a landlord might have done and were often more zealous in the execution of their duties than resident landlords. The agents of absentee landlords were natorious throughout much of our history. However for the landlord having an agent on hand meant people could go to him directly instead of writing to a solicitor in Dublin or London. Maire -----Original Message----- From: irl-galway-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 25 May 2010 8:00 Subject: IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 75 Today's Topics: 1. Griffiths Index (Pat Connors) 2. Meaning of Seneshcal? (Josie de Moor) 3. (no subject) (edscout@aol.com) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:37:31 -0700 rom: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> ubject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffiths Index o: irl-galway@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <4BFA9D3B.2090704@pacbell.net> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed According to the book, Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland by ames R Reilly, he GV for County Galway was printed on the following dates: allinasloe Poor Law Union: Nov 20, 1856 alway PLU: Mar 7, 1855 oughrea PLU: Jun 10, 1856 ountbellow PLU: Aug 21, 1855 ortumna PLU: Jun 2, 1856 uam PLU: Dec 10, 1855 alway & Clare PLU: Aug 31, 1855 Can anyone tell me what year the Griffiths Valuations would have been done in Loughrea? Would this be the same year for all of Galway? The enumerators worked for many years previous to the printing to get he data ready to print. The original work in are various books, all and written (Quarto Books, House Books, Field Books and Tenure Books). hese were released in 2006 at the Archives of Ireland in Dublin and ave been filmed and released by the Family History Library. I you go o their site (FamilySearch.org) and where you search for films, put 262974 in film number search and it will take you to a section where ll the films are listed. As a rule of thumb, the enumeration took place from 1847 to 1864 and the rinting was a bit later. I have transcribed the House Books for the ipperary civil parish and they are online on my website on the ipperary section. What I found most interesting about these books is hey showed a progression of tenancy over a couple of years. You could ee a name, then it was crossed out because the tenant moved or died. he new tenant would then be written in. If related to the first enant, a note might be added like widow or son, etc. Sadly to say, not ll of the rough books have survived. -- at Connors, Sacramento, CA ttp://www.connorsgenealogy.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 ate: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:45:03 -0700 (PDT) rom: Josie de Moor <melkatste@yahoo.com.au> ubject: [IRL-GALWAY] Meaning of Seneshcal? o: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <327391.20039.qm@web45207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, am a little confused by the meaning of "seneschal". n the Directory of old trades it describes it as a "steward of?the household?of prince or noble man who took charge ?of domestic arrangments." At a dinner in 1824 given by Earl of Clanricard he is listed a steward Stewards- Thomas Shagwell, Esq., M.D.; Major Boulger; T.R. Hemsworth, Esq; J.H. idge, Esq.; Edmund Silk, Esq." his seems to fit with the description of the position but then?I found the ollowing? and now?I am confused. It seems he was of the gentry and in fact he id marry into quite a prominent family (Letitia the daughter of Thomas tratford EYRE) In the 1824 Pigots directory he is listed under gentry and clergy - Silk Edmund, esq, Seneschal, Church-lane" In Slaters directory 1846 he is listed under attorneys. and then I found this article Loughrea in 1847 his article was originally published in the 'Galway Advertiser' on 27th ebruary, 1847. A Shopkeeper" in Loughrea has written to us a letter on the great disadvantage he inhabitants are under in consequence of the want of a Seneschal in that own......For ourselves we are much surprised his lordship has not appointed a uccessor to the late Mr. Silk long ere this, and now when an all but a direct alls made upon him to accommodate the inhabitants of Loughrea, we are sure his ordship will feel but too happy in complying with their request." Obvoiusly a seneschal is more than just a steward of a household if his eath?could disrupt a town. an anyone help me? heers osie ------------------------------ Message: 3 ate: Tue, 25 May 2010 01:20:07 -0400 rom: edscout@aol.com ubject: [IRL-GALWAY] (no subject) o: hendersn1@embarqmail.com, hbeegan@totton.ac.uk, hill.tony.web@flsenate.gov, hthamann@gmail.com, huzzymay@gmail.com, info@arthritiscenter.org, irl-galway@rootsweb.com, irl-limerick@rootsweb.com, jackgenz@comcast.net essage-ID: <8CCC9E1133754F8-2054-7589@webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://sylvanparking.com/home.php ----------------------------- To contact the IRL-GALWAY list administrator, send an email to RL-GALWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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