I am searching for info re. my PAGE family (my father's father's family). I have very little info. My g. grandfather Joseph Page (b. abt 1835 in Connaught and came to USA abt. 1848 - according to his Civil War military record). My grandfather said Joseph came from Ireland to America as a stowaway on a ship. In 1858 Joseph shows up in Lincoln County, Missouri USA and is listed on the 1860 U.S. Federal Census record for that area. Also, listed on the same census record, as his neighbors, are Christopher (b. 1802), Mary (b, 1802) and Patrick (b. 1833) Page. All born in Ireland. Joseph Page's marriage record (his 2nd marriage) from a Lincoln County, Missouri Catholic Church shows his parents as Christopher and Mary Page. Joseph lived out his lifetime in Lincoln County, Missouri. Christopher Page died there in 1877. No info for Mary. Patrick was killed in Georgia in the Civil War. I have no information for this family prior to Joseph coming to America. I don't even know where to begin to start looking for his family member in Ireland. I haven't found any info ship records re. Joseph's parents (and I assume bro. Patrick). So, don't know when they came to America and how they any of this PAGE family ended up in Missouri. During the mid 1800s, there was only one other Page family living in Lincoln County, Missouri and they don't 'appear' to be related to Joseph Page. But, I can't prove that. ANY info or ideas about how I should go about researching my PAGE family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Allison Page

Allison, in which record does the location "Connaught" appear as the birthplace for your Joseph Page? Was it in his military record or Civil War pension record (do you have that also?) or was this location handed down in the family? Who gave the information about Connaught? In my experience (researching Irish roots for 20+ years), if you find a US record that states more than just "Ireland" as a place of birth for a 19th c. Irish immigrant, it is more usual to find mention of a county, parish or other more specific place rather than one of the 4 provinces of Ireland - Connaught (NW Ireland), Leinster (SE Ireland), Munster (SW Ireland) and Ulster (NE Ireland). So, again, I am curious - in what record did you find Connaught mentioned? Are you certain that it referred to the province of Connaught, which includes Galway but also several other counties? As you probably already know, Missouri death records are online free at http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ - a wonderful resource for people tracing Missouri families. There I found a death certificate for Joseph's daughter Johanna Turpin (wife of Hugh Turpin), who died at Foristell, St. Charles County, Missouri on 15 April 1930. The image is here: http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsumer/DispPDF.aspx?fTiff=/archives/DeptofHealth/Death/1933/1933_00014642.TIF&Fln=1553543.pdf <http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsumer/DispPDF.aspx?fTiff=/archives/DeptofHealth/Death/1933/1933_00014642.TIF&Fln=1553543.pdf> That record states that her father was Joseph Page, born at Dublin, Ireland, and that her mother's maiden name was Kenion (born at Troy, Mo). This is obviously very second-hand information, but nevertheless it could be a good clue (or it could be totally wrong). Of course Dublin is in the province of Leinster - not Connaught - so this conflicts with Joseph Page being from the province of Connaught. But perhaps there is someplace near Dublin that sounds like (or looks like) Connaught. The informant on the death certificate was Hugh Turpin, who might have known where his father-in-law Joseph Page came from in Ireland... or maybe not. Have you pursued all records for all the children of Joseph Page in the US? I have sometimes found the correct birthplace for Irish immigrants on the death records (or sometimes other records) for their children. Have you identified any other Irish relatives of the Page family living in Lincoln County? There seem to be several Irish families living near them in census records. Often, the problem of finding an origin in Ireland is solved using records in the country of immigration rather than Irish records. Tracing known associates in the US (such as baptismal sponsors, marriage witnesses, some of those Civil War pension witnesses) can often lead you to more Irish relatives. The more names of relatives you have, the better your chances of locating your family in Irish records. I might mention that your email caught my eye because I am tracing relatives of a Berry family from Kentucky that moved to Lincoln County, Missouri (but much earlier, in the 1820s). The Berrys from Lincoln County, MO (who came to America in the 1700s or earlier) are the ancestors of a man who has an intriguing yDNA match to my husband - whose Irish Barry family came to the US from County Limerick many generations later (in the 1850s). That was not exactly what we expected to find when we pursued yDNA testing for genealogical purposes, but it is very interesting. Regards, Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon On 7/15/2010 7:36 AM, Allison Hockman wrote: > I am searching for info re. my PAGE family (my father's father's family). I > have very little info. My g. grandfather Joseph Page (b. abt 1835 in > Connaught and came to USA abt. 1848 - according to his Civil War military > record). My grandfather said Joseph came from Ireland to America as a > stowaway on a ship. In 1858 Joseph shows up in Lincoln County, Missouri USA > and is listed on the 1860 U.S. Federal Census record for that area. Also, > listed on the same census record, as his neighbors, are Christopher (b. > 1802), Mary (b, 1802) and Patrick (b. 1833) Page. All born in Ireland. > Joseph Page's marriage record (his 2nd marriage) from a Lincoln County, > Missouri Catholic Church shows his parents as Christopher and Mary Page. > Joseph lived out his lifetime in Lincoln County, Missouri. Christopher Page > died there in 1877. No info for Mary. Patrick was killed in Georgia in the > Civil War. I have no information for this family prior to Joseph coming to > America. I don't even know where to begin to start looking for his family > member in Ireland. I haven't found any info ship records re. Joseph's > parents (and I assume bro. Patrick). So, don't know when they came to > America and how they any of this PAGE family ended up in Missouri. During > the mid 1800s, there was only one other Page family living in Lincoln > County, Missouri and they don't 'appear' to be related to Joseph Page. But, > I can't prove that. ANY info or ideas about how I should go about > researching my PAGE family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison Page > > >

Allison, in which record does the location "Connaught" appear as the birthplace for your Joseph Page? Was it in his military record or Civil War pension record (do you have that also?) or was this location handed down in the family? Who gave the information about Connaught? In my experience (researching Irish roots for 20+ years), if you find a US record that states more than just "Ireland" as a place of birth for a 19th c. Irish immigrant, it is more usual to find mention of a county, parish or other more specific place rather than one of the 4 provinces of Ireland - Connaught (NW Ireland), Leinster (SE Ireland), Munster (SW Ireland) and Ulster (NE Ireland). So, again, I am curious - in what record did you find Connaught mentioned? Are you certain that it referred to the province of Connaught, which includes Galway but also several other counties? As you probably already know, Missouri death records are online free at http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ - a wonderful resource for people tracing Missouri families. There I found a death certificate for Joseph's daughter Johanna Turpin (wife of Hugh Turpin), who died at Foristell, St. Charles County, Missouri on 15 April 1930. The image is here: http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsumer/DispPDF.aspx?fTiff=/archives/DeptofHealth/Death/1933/1933_00014642.TIF&Fln=1553543.pdf <http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsumer/DispPDF.aspx?fTiff=/archives/DeptofHealth/Death/1933/1933_00014642.TIF&Fln=1553543.pdf> That record states that her father was Joseph Page, born at Dublin, Ireland, and that her mother's maiden name was Kenion (born at Troy, Mo). This is obviously very second-hand information, but nevertheless it could be a good clue (or it could be totally wrong). Of course Dublin is in the province of Leinster - not Connaught - so this conflicts with Joseph Page being from the province of Connaught. But perhaps there is someplace near Dublin that sounds like (or looks like) Connaught. The informant on the death certificate was Hugh Turpin, who might have known where his father-in-law Joseph Page came from in Ireland... or maybe not. Have you pursued all records for all the children of Joseph Page in the US? I have sometimes found the correct birthplace for Irish immigrants on the death records (or sometimes other records) for their children. Have you identified any other Irish relatives of the Page family living in Lincoln County? There seem to be several Irish families living near them in census records. Often, the problem of finding an origin in Ireland is solved using records in the country of immigration rather than Irish records. Tracing known associates in the US (such as baptismal sponsors, marriage witnesses, some of those Civil War pension witnesses) can often lead you to more Irish relatives. The more names of relatives you have, the better your chances of locating your family in Irish records. I might mention that your email caught my eye because I am tracing relatives of a Berry family from Kentucky that moved to Lincoln County, Missouri (but much earlier, in the 1820s). The Berrys from Lincoln County, MO (who came to America in the 1700s or earlier) are the ancestors of a man who has an intriguing yDNA match to my husband - whose Irish Barry family came to the US from County Limerick many generations later (in the 1850s). That was not exactly what we expected to find when we pursued yDNA testing for genealogical purposes, but it is very interesting. Regards, Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon On 7/15/2010 7:36 AM, Allison Hockman wrote: > I am searching for info re. my PAGE family (my father's father's family). I > have very little info. My g. grandfather Joseph Page (b. abt 1835 in > Connaught and came to USA abt. 1848 - according to his Civil War military > record). My grandfather said Joseph came from Ireland to America as a > stowaway on a ship. In 1858 Joseph shows up in Lincoln County, Missouri USA > and is listed on the 1860 U.S. Federal Census record for that area. Also, > listed on the same census record, as his neighbors, are Christopher (b. > 1802), Mary (b, 1802) and Patrick (b. 1833) Page. All born in Ireland. > Joseph Page's marriage record (his 2nd marriage) from a Lincoln County, > Missouri Catholic Church shows his parents as Christopher and Mary Page. > Joseph lived out his lifetime in Lincoln County, Missouri. Christopher Page > died there in 1877. No info for Mary. Patrick was killed in Georgia in the > Civil War. I have no information for this family prior to Joseph coming to > America. I don't even know where to begin to start looking for his family > member in Ireland. I haven't found any info ship records re. Joseph's > parents (and I assume bro. Patrick). So, don't know when they came to > America and how they any of this PAGE family ended up in Missouri. During > the mid 1800s, there was only one other Page family living in Lincoln > County, Missouri and they don't 'appear' to be related to Joseph Page. But, > I can't prove that. ANY info or ideas about how I should go about > researching my PAGE family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison Page >