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    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Famine Book
    2. -----Original Message----- From: Phyllis M. Phillips <phyllism@pobox.com> To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:07 am Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68 ==================================== I used to have a book on the famine and it was very depressing. One thing that stuck out to me was they had mass graves so i don't think they had enough room for a proper burial it was call I think the Famine years. I just recently donated all my books to the local library.

    05/21/2010 02:56:24
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. This is from today IRISH TIMES Unmarked graves found in Dublin The unmarked graves of 40 children from the Bethany Home, a Protestant residential institution, have been discovered in Dublin. The graves contain the bodies of former residents of the institution which operated in Blackhall Place, Dublin, from 1921-34 and in Orwell Road, Rathgar, until it closed in 1972. It was a combined maternity home, children’s home and place of detention for women convicted of petty theft, prostitution, infanticide and birth concealment. Over 40 children were recorded as dying in a period when the home had 19 babies resident on average per month, according to Griffith College Dublin academic Niall Meehan. The unnamed children were then independently traced by Mr Meehan to Mount Jerome Cemetery, Harold’s Cross, Dublin, most of whom are in adjoining unmarked common graves. The infant residents were buried at the cemetary between 1935 and 1936 when Bethany Home Dublin was required to register child mortality under the Maternity Act of 1934. On May 20, 2010, at 8:35 PM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Not sure why my post is duplicated several times sorry if my fault I > have trouble with my eyes legally blind. I also apologies in advance for > the large print that appears on my postings it's what I can see clearly. > > I seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House>before that is where I got > the information that the keeper of this house was John Donnelly. > According to family tradition Fanny Donnelly was an heiress that ran > away with either the Coachman or the Butler James Lunney. > > I'm wondering if there is somewhere pre-1833 that shows the servants or > family members at this house? > > Thanks for the site to the libraries I'll do some researching there. > > I wish I could go there myself hope you have a great trip in June. > > Len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/21/2010 02:12:01
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. BY the way that has been happening to me double emails it is not the list. On May 20, 2010, at 8:35 PM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Not sure why my post is duplicated several times sorry if my fault I > have trouble with my eyes legally blind. I also apologies in advance for > the large print that appears on my postings it's what I can see clearly. > > I seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House>before that is where I got > the information that the keeper of this house was John Donnelly. > According to family tradition Fanny Donnelly was an heiress that ran > away with either the Coachman or the Butler James Lunney. > > I'm wondering if there is somewhere pre-1833 that shows the servants or > family members at this house? > > Thanks for the site to the libraries I'll do some researching there. > > I wish I could go there myself hope you have a great trip in June. > > Len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/21/2010 02:08:12
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. ==================================== I used to have a book on the famine and it was very depressing. One thing that stuck out to me was they had mass graves so i don't think they had enough room for a proper burial it was call I think the Famine years. I just recently donated all my books to the local library. On May 20, 2010, at 8:35 PM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Not sure why my post is duplicated several times sorry if my fault I > have trouble with my eyes legally blind. I also apologies in advance for > the large print that appears on my postings it's what I can see clearly. > > I seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House>before that is where I got > the information that the keeper of this house was John Donnelly. > According to family tradition Fanny Donnelly was an heiress that ran > away with either the Coachman or the Butler James Lunney. > > I'm wondering if there is somewhere pre-1833 that shows the servants or > family members at this house? > > Thanks for the site to the libraries I'll do some researching there. > > I wish I could go there myself hope you have a great trip in June. > > Len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/21/2010 02:07:19
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Changing your SUBJECT at each mailing
    2. Theresa Bora
    3. Joan, I couldn't agree with you more. List administrators, and other Listers, have tried time after time to get this point across, but you may as well be talking to the wall in some cases. Or as my dear, late Dad would say....you're whistlin' in the wind. Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dasmi1170@aol.com> To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Changing your SUBJECT at each mailing <<<<Please DELETE what mails in your digest is not relevant to the mail you are sending and change your SUBJECT heading.>>>> Joan

    05/20/2010 02:42:19
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68
    2. L Fluhrer IIIrd
    3. Not sure why my post is duplicated several times sorry if my fault I have trouble with my eyes legally blind. I also apologies in advance for the large print that appears on my postings it's what I can see clearly. I seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House>before that is where I got the information that the keeper of this house was John Donnelly. According to family tradition Fanny Donnelly was an heiress that ran away with either the Coachman or the Butler James Lunney. I'm wondering if there is somewhere pre-1833 that shows the servants or family members at this house? Thanks for the site to the libraries I'll do some researching there. I wish I could go there myself hope you have a great trip in June. Len

    05/20/2010 02:35:52
    1. [IRL-GALWAY] Famine letters from archives of Dublin law firm Stewart and Kincaid who acted as landlords' agents during the period 1845 – 1849
    2. G Quibell
    3. This message was extracted from the Australian GSV Rootsweb List "...FORTHCOMING AUCTION THE GREAT FAMINE Tuesday 18th May at 5pm IMPORTANT NOTICE Following intensive successful negotiations, with Kennys of Galway acting as intermediary, we are delighted to announce that the Stewart & Kincaid Famine Letters (Lots 1-147 incl in our May 18th Famine Sale) are to be kept together as a Collection and given to an important archive here in Ireland, where they will, in due course, be available for academic research. Lots 148 ? 332 in the auction catalogue are unaffected and will be offered for sale as planned, tomorrow May 18th. Viewing at 26 St. Stephen's Green: Sunday 16th May 2pm - 5pm Monday 17th May 9.30am - 5pm Tuesday 18th 9.30am - 3pm (Entry to viewing is by catalogue only, one catalogue admits two and costs ?20) LIVE ONLINE BIDDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS AUCTION...." There is some further information on http://www.longfordleader.ie/news/Longford-Famine-letters-among-items.6301949.jp

    05/20/2010 01:26:58
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. If you want me to do a look up give the dates that you are looking for and what state in the US On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Hi Phyllis: > > It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what > I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands > were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney > was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it > returned the following information: > > Townland: Tyrone > Area: 267 acres > County: Galway > Barony: Dunkellin > Parish:Drumacoo > ?: Gort > Province: Connaught > > Which comes from the source that you quoted. > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm > > > > Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they > don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that > location as well. :-( > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= > <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> > > There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that > are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland > and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. > > The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of > Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or > Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a > wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. > John was the Gate Keeper. > > Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey > County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came > into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area > where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James > Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James > Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits > perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney > appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly > family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County > on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ > > According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the > year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim > County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) > > Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John > Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with > her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of > the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. > > They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on > family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. > > I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at > automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been > able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other > family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they > were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the > American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of > 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by > Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 > Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land > records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney > with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. > > Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The > lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or > Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? > > The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as > Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. > August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County > (later part of Grey County). > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 10:07:51
    1. [IRL-GALWAY] galway families
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. I did not do that email On May 20, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Mapaski@aol.com wrote: > I have no idea what that e-mail said. > > Patricia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 10:04:50
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Changing your SUBJECT at each mailing
    2. I have no idea what that e-mail said. Patricia

    05/20/2010 05:19:57
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Changing your SUBJECT at each mailing
    2. Hello, I give you this suggestion from another list: >>DIGEST mails:- >>Your choice is of course to receive your mails in digest mode, the rest of >>the list get L Mode, which means if you post back to the list without >>changing your subject line, we receive all over again the mails we have >>already received.<< >>Please DELETE what mails in your digest is not relevant to the mail you are >>sending and change your SUBJECT heading.<< >>Why you are wondering well begin with no one is going to go through the >>archives searching for Galway Digest no 2003, they are looking for a Subject >>that links them directly to that mail, which may be yours. I think that is >>reason enough.<< Joan

    05/20/2010 04:44:44
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Hi Phyllis: > > It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what > I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands > were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney > was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it > returned the following information: > > Townland: Tyrone > Area: 267 acres > County: Galway > Barony: Dunkellin > Parish:Drumacoo > ?: Gort > Province: Connaught > > Which comes from the source that you quoted. > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm > > > > Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they > don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that > location as well. :-( > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= > <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> > > There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that > are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland > and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. > > The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of > Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or > Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a > wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. > John was the Gate Keeper. > > Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey > County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came > into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area > where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James > Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James > Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits > perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney > appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly > family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County > on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ > > According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the > year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim > County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) > > Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John > Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with > her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of > the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. > > They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on > family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. > > I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at > automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been > able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other > family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they > were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the > American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of > 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by > Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 > Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land > records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney > with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. > > Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The > lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or > Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? > > The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as > Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. > August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County > (later part of Grey County). > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 03:10:42
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. clicking on the site I see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilcolgan On May 20, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > check this out > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House > > > On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > >> Hi Phyllis: >> >> It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what >> I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands >> were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney >> was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it >> returned the following information: >> >> Townland: Tyrone >> Area: 267 acres >> County: Galway >> Barony: Dunkellin >> Parish:Drumacoo >> ?: Gort >> Province: Connaught >> >> Which comes from the source that you quoted. >> >> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm >> >> >> >> Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they >> don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that >> location as well. :-( >> >> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= >> <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> >> >> There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that >> are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland >> and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. >> >> The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of >> Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or >> Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a >> wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. >> John was the Gate Keeper. >> >> Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey >> County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came >> into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area >> where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James >> Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James >> Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits >> perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney >> appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly >> family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County >> on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at >> >> http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ >> >> According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the >> year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim >> County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) >> >> Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John >> Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with >> her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of >> the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. >> >> They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on >> family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. >> >> I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at >> automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been >> able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other >> family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they >> were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the >> American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of >> 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by >> Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 >> Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land >> records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney >> with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. >> >> Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The >> lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or >> Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? >> >> The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as >> Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. >> August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County >> (later part of Grey County). >> >> Len >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 03:06:48
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_House On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Hi Phyllis: > > It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what > I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands > were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney > was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it > returned the following information: > > Townland: Tyrone > Area: 267 acres > County: Galway > Barony: Dunkellin > Parish:Drumacoo > ?: Gort > Province: Connaught > > Which comes from the source that you quoted. > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm > > > > Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they > don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that > location as well. :-( > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= > <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> > > There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that > are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland > and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. > > The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of > Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or > Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a > wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. > John was the Gate Keeper. > > Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey > County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came > into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area > where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James > Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James > Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits > perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney > appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly > family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County > on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ > > According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the > year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim > County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) > > Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John > Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with > her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of > the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. > > They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on > family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. > > I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at > automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been > able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other > family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they > were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the > American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of > 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by > Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 > Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land > records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney > with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. > > Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The > lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or > Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? > > The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as > Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. > August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County > (later part of Grey County). > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 03:04:17
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. Check out this page on it http://www.askaboutireland.ie/libraries/ On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Hi Phyllis: > > It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what > I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands > were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney > was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it > returned the following information: > > Townland: Tyrone > Area: 267 acres > County: Galway > Barony: Dunkellin > Parish:Drumacoo > ?: Gort > Province: Connaught > > Which comes from the source that you quoted. > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm > > > > Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they > don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that > location as well. :-( > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= > <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> > > There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that > are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland > and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. > > The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of > Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or > Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a > wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. > John was the Gate Keeper. > > Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey > County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came > into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area > where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James > Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James > Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits > perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney > appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly > family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County > on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ > > According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the > year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim > County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) > > Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John > Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with > her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of > the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. > > They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on > family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. > > I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at > automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been > able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other > family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they > were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the > American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of > 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by > Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 > Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land > records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney > with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. > > Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The > lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or > Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? > > The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as > Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. > August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County > (later part of Grey County). > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 02:58:02
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. I think you can type in the the townlands on this site which I got from Galway. I have a friend that is this line and his wife did a lot and when I was in Galway I saw a lot of stores with the name. I will be there in June On May 20, 2010, at 7:53 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > Hi Phyllis: > > It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what > I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands > were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney > was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it > returned the following information: > > Townland: Tyrone > Area: 267 acres > County: Galway > Barony: Dunkellin > Parish:Drumacoo > ?: Gort > Province: Connaught > > Which comes from the source that you quoted. > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm > > > > Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they > don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that > location as well. :-( > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= > <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> > > There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that > are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland > and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. > > The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of > Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or > Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a > wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. > John was the Gate Keeper. > > Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey > County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came > into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area > where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James > Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James > Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits > perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney > appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly > family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County > on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at > > http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ > > According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the > year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim > County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) > > Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John > Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with > her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of > the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. > > They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on > family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. > > I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at > automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been > able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other > family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they > were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the > American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of > 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by > Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 > Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land > records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney > with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. > > Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The > lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or > Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? > > The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as > Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. > August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County > (later part of Grey County). > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2010 02:57:05
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 67
    2. L Fluhrer IIIrd
    3. Hi Phyllis: It's a bit confusing but County Tyrone People sent me here because what I want is actually a Townland called Tyrone in County Galway. Townlands were exact plots apparently where I believe Fanny Donelly later Lunney was born. There is a database someone sent me of Townlands and it returned the following information: Townland: Tyrone Area: 267 acres County: Galway Barony: Dunkellin Parish:Drumacoo ?: Gort Province: Connaught Which comes from the source that you quoted. http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xm Trouble is the index is done after my families left Ireland so they don't show up here and John that remains doesn't show up in that location as well. :-( http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=Lunney&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=> There are other Lunney's with same names however, in other areas that are said to be cousins of some sort the latest one to come from Ireland and at our first ever family reunion last year about I think she said 1967. The area was run by a John Donelly or Donnelly for the Parish of Drumacoo and he lived in a Gate at the old Motte. Apparently a Castle or Keep there at one point now only empty farmland remains with ruins of a wall. Believed both the Lunney and Donelly name in the same Parish area. John was the Gate Keeper. Then over in Canada at what would later become the town of Durham, Grey County, Ontario I know that a James Donnelly, Military Surveyor came into the area with the first or second survey team from Port Hope area where I can also find the Lunney family on the 1861 Census. James Donnelly had several sons and daughters one of which was John James Donnelly but Fanny isn't listed as one of them although she fits perfectly between two siblings and her own daughter Margaret Lunney appears to be named after one of the known sisters of the James Donnelly family. John Donnely owned most of the land around Durham, Grey County on the 1878 Ontario Atlas maps at http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/ According to the Atlas he settled the farm II SDR, 45, 150 acres in the year 1855 and was born in Ireland 1814 other records say 1821 and claim County Cavan, Ireland (but I'm unsure accuracy of the source.) Fanny is buried in a family plot that has family members of John Donnelly in it one of the oldest graves in Durham Cemetery along with her husband in what looks to be a family plot that predates the rest of the cemetery. Almost visible on Google maps. They have an unidentified symbol on their graves that is repeated on family graves elsewhere in Ontario. Looks like a shamrock but isn't. I've got the census for Canada if you look on the 1901 census at automatedgenealogy.com it states she came to Canada 1833. I've not been able to find a ships list that matches her stated date of arrive. Other family members say 1834 so sometime in that period. Also believe they were military men of the 84th Regiment and were in Canada after the American revolution, recalled to fight Napolean after the War of 1812-1814 and then returned back to their land in the recall issued by Col. Thomas Talbot late Nov 1831/32 in the build up to the 1837 Rebellion that arrived from Ireland 1832 - 1836 period. Have land records in Hope dating to 1798 and a Lt. James and Lt. William Lunney with lands in Sutton, Quebec 1802. Just need something to link them all together that is solid proof. The lists of Col. Talbot and Col. Simcoe are supposed to be in England or Ireland someplace. Does anyone have access to these rolls? The History of the County of Bruce County lists James Donnelly as Military Surveyor apparently with the Survey team of A.P. Borough P.L.S. August 26th 1848 that surveyed the future town of Durham, Bruce County (later part of Grey County). Len

    05/20/2010 01:53:54
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Donally family
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. oops 1901 On May 19, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > you can look at the 1902 and the 1911 census online > > On May 19, 2010, at 10:48 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > >> I'm looking for information on the family of a gatekeeper named John >> DONELLY of Tyrone Homeland, County Galway, Ireland >> >> Specifically, if John Donelly came to Ontario, Canada and owned large >> property near present day Durham, Grey County, Ontario with either a >> sibling, daughter etc. named Frances Johanna /DONELLY/ born 25 Dec 1823 >> Tyrone , County Galway, Ireland and died 15 Mar 1907 Lamlash, Grey >> County, Durham Township, Ontario, Canada. >> >> Looking for any information tying the two together. >> >> Len >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 06:35:30
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Donally family
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. you can look at the 1902 and the 1911 census online On May 19, 2010, at 10:48 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > I'm looking for information on the family of a gatekeeper named John > DONELLY of Tyrone Homeland, County Galway, Ireland > > Specifically, if John Donelly came to Ontario, Canada and owned large > property near present day Durham, Grey County, Ontario with either a > sibling, daughter etc. named Frances Johanna /DONELLY/ born 25 Dec 1823 > Tyrone , County Galway, Ireland and died 15 Mar 1907 Lamlash, Grey > County, Durham Township, Ontario, Canada. > > Looking for any information tying the two together. > > Len > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 06:29:28
    1. Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Donally family
    2. Phyllis M. Phillips
    3. I'm confused is it Galway or Northern Ireland Tyrone here is a great site for family info http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml If he was born in the year you say he will be on here On May 19, 2010, at 10:48 AM, L Fluhrer IIIrd wrote: > I'm looking for information on the family of a gatekeeper named John > DONELLY of Tyrone Homeland, County Galway, Ireland > > Specifically, if John Donelly came to Ontario, Canada and owned large > property near present day Durham, Grey County, Ontario with either a > sibling, daughter etc. named Frances Johanna /DONELLY/ born 25 Dec 1823 > Tyrone , County Galway, Ireland and died 15 Mar 1907 Lamlash, Grey > County, Durham Township, Ontario, Canada. > > Looking for any information tying the two together. > > Len > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 05:37:24