Dear Diane, Thank you so much for your response. I make notes on cards and then leave out info that helps make sense of the info later. A bad habit! I am getting the feeling that Immaculate Heart of Mary parish is a "modern" name for a recent parish and that the parish that my kinfolk attended probably had a different name. I guess I need more research on this question. Lois Zelina ________________________________ From: "DLCulhane@cs.com" <DLCulhane@cs.com> To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:20:29 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora Immaculate Heart of Mary is a church in the town of Killanin, parish of Rosscahill, County Galway. It's not near Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora but in the same diocese, so perhaps that's the confusion. If you Google Immaculate Heart of Mary Killanin, you'll see a photo of a modern church, though it's possible the old church building survives. You could always write or call and ask. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Maire, Thank you so much for your response to my question. I wrote the information I mentioned on a card and did not add any other information that might have helped make sense of it at a later time. You would think I had learned that by now but obviously not . You have helped me out some time ago with the Pendergast research. I am aware that there are many missing records of the time and area but someone found the marriage in a LDS record so I know that the marriage is recorded. I would be most interested in baptismal information from the 1840+ time period. I know that Michael and Winifred Pendergast had a son Martin and I am looking for a record of his baptism. I would also be interested in any photo's of the church that existed at the time my kin were living in the area. I would be glad to pay you for the photo's. Lois Zelina ________________________________ From: Maire <mairerobinson@yahoo.co.uk> To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora The Bishop of Galway is also Bishop of Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora. Behind the modern Killannin Church (in the townland of Pribaun) next to the current graveyard is an older Killannin Church. This was erected sometime in the 19c. The roof no longer remains. There is an older remains of a church in the old Killannin Graveyard in Killannin townland down a boreen on the opposite side of the road. There is also the remains of a church from the 6th c nearby. Killannin parish was originally in the diocese of Tuam. Its transfer to Galway diocese was met with violent resistance with the parish priest appointed by Galway diocese having to be supported by the armed forces based in Oughterard. I have a photograph or two of the ruins. Maire Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: Lois Zelina <zelinalois@yahoo.com> Sender: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:17:15 To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora I am mixed up. I have information about my GGF living in Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora parish. Also I have info that the parish was Killanin and the parish CHURCH was Immaculate Heart of Mary. The great grandfather was Michael Pendergast (in Ireland it was spelled Prendergast, I'm told) who married Winifred Healy in circa 1840+. Family lore has Michael from Ross Village...now renamed Rosscahill, west. I have a family member visiting Ireland this summer and would love to have a photo of the church where my GGF was married if the church still exists. Can anyone help clear up the confusion between what seems to be civil parish names and religious parish name(s) ? Maybe none of my information is accurate. Horrors! Any help will be much appreciated. Lois Zelina ________________________________ From: Eamonn Haverty <mnhaverty1@gmail.com> To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:05:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20-Galway Workhouses I am in Galway - give me some time and I will go and see what is actually in these records. On 22 February 2011 08:00, <irl-galway-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (EXT-Glynn, Quintin W) > 2. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 3. Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 4. Re: Galway Workhouses (judy christopher) > 5. Re: Galway Workhouses (wm.karr@comcast.net) > 6. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 7. Re: Galway Workhouses (Jackbowk@aol.com) > 8. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:15:12 -0600 > From: "EXT-Glynn, Quintin W" <quintin.w.glynn@boeing.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: "irl-galway@rootsweb.com" <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > 685DDAA422F56C4F8EB7FE3C22873257632968F3B2@XCH-MW-13V.mw.nos.boeing.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found references to "denominations" in early 1800 English books. Quote: > > "Within the official townlands, there may be other smaller subdivisions > such as field and farm names. Sometimes these smaller subdivisions are > referred to as "sub-townland denominations" or "minor place names." > > "A "denomination" in a historical Irish record usually refers to a > particular place within a parish, such as a townland, village, or part of a > townland. There are also small communities within townlands not large enough > to be villages or towns; these communities have unique names and may only > include a few houses." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teri Rehurek > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:58 PM > To: irl-galway > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > I am not sure but maybe Defining lines - property lines. I would maybe > run it by a real estate person. Or some one such as a apraiser or city > planner. > > Teri > > > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:41:57 -0500 > > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note > > that it includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There > > are more denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the > > denominations were subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know > > the purpose of the two listings? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:29:06 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1323c.62db09c0.3a93b492@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thanks very much. By Griffith's many of them had graduated to townlands, > but they were generally small. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:08:03 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1b08d.4c769ed7.3a93f5f3@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who Do > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library has > the > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they are > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for me. > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:56:10 -0500 > From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin69xT7tOK5k-ajcmo8r1=Md+3WUXZ6GHUTVfOp@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is so nice to have someone else do the work for you. > I have nothing in Galway on my Great-Grandfather or his brothers.\ > Judy Christoper > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who > Do > > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library > has > > the > > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they > are > > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for > me. > > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Judy Christopher > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:10:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: wm.karr@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < >832255696.1327662.1298311849441.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net > >t > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Diane, > > > > According to By Aengus O Snodaigh ? 1997 The Irish People, there were > several workhouses in Galway. > > > > Check out: > http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/ireland/ireland_workhouses.htm > > > > Bill > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:39:09 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <7d5b7.7bf8263.3a940b4d@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:01:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Jackbowk@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1d546d.30adbf26.3a941092@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Weren't there a workhouse in every Poor Law Union? So one looks in which > PLU a town is included to locate the appropriate workhouse. These follow > parish lines to a great extent but one has to assure in every case. > > Jack > > > In a message dated 2/21/2011 1:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > DLCulhane@cs.com writes: > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:09:45 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <17f89e.3e1b5d2c.3a941279@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I know where the workhouse was and have photos of it. I'm asking whether > anyone has searched the records or had someone else do it for them. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-GALWAY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-GALWAY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 > ***************************************** > -- Eamonn Haverty, 1 Tudor Close, Knocknacarra, Galway ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am mixed up. I have information about my GGF living in Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora parish. Also I have info that the parish was Killanin and the parish CHURCH was Immaculate Heart of Mary. The great grandfather was Michael Pendergast (in Ireland it was spelled Prendergast, I'm told) who married Winifred Healy in circa 1840+. Family lore has Michael from Ross Village...now renamed Rosscahill, west. I have a family member visiting Ireland this summer and would love to have a photo of the church where my GGF was married if the church still exists. Can anyone help clear up the confusion between what seems to be civil parish names and religious parish name(s) ? Maybe none of my information is accurate. Horrors! Any help will be much appreciated. Lois Zelina ________________________________ From: Eamonn Haverty <mnhaverty1@gmail.com> To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:05:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20-Galway Workhouses I am in Galway - give me some time and I will go and see what is actually in these records. On 22 February 2011 08:00, <irl-galway-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (EXT-Glynn, Quintin W) > 2. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 3. Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 4. Re: Galway Workhouses (judy christopher) > 5. Re: Galway Workhouses (wm.karr@comcast.net) > 6. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 7. Re: Galway Workhouses (Jackbowk@aol.com) > 8. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:15:12 -0600 > From: "EXT-Glynn, Quintin W" <quintin.w.glynn@boeing.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: "irl-galway@rootsweb.com" <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > 685DDAA422F56C4F8EB7FE3C22873257632968F3B2@XCH-MW-13V.mw.nos.boeing.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found references to "denominations" in early 1800 English books. Quote: > > "Within the official townlands, there may be other smaller subdivisions > such as field and farm names. Sometimes these smaller subdivisions are > referred to as "sub-townland denominations" or "minor place names." > > "A "denomination" in a historical Irish record usually refers to a > particular place within a parish, such as a townland, village, or part of a > townland. There are also small communities within townlands not large enough > to be villages or towns; these communities have unique names and may only > include a few houses." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teri Rehurek > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:58 PM > To: irl-galway > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > I am not sure but maybe Defining lines - property lines. I would maybe > run it by a real estate person. Or some one such as a apraiser or city > planner. > > Teri > > > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:41:57 -0500 > > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note > > that it includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There > > are more denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the > > denominations were subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know > > the purpose of the two listings? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:29:06 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1323c.62db09c0.3a93b492@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thanks very much. By Griffith's many of them had graduated to townlands, > but they were generally small. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:08:03 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1b08d.4c769ed7.3a93f5f3@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who Do > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library has > the > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they are > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for me. > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:56:10 -0500 > From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin69xT7tOK5k-ajcmo8r1=Md+3WUXZ6GHUTVfOp@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is so nice to have someone else do the work for you. > I have nothing in Galway on my Great-Grandfather or his brothers.\ > Judy Christoper > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who > Do > > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library > has > > the > > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they > are > > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for > me. > > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Judy Christopher > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:10:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: wm.karr@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < >832255696.1327662.1298311849441.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net >t > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Diane, > > > > According to By Aengus O Snodaigh ? 1997 The Irish People, there were > several workhouses in Galway. > > > > Check out: > http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/ireland/ireland_workhouses.htm > > > > Bill > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:39:09 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <7d5b7.7bf8263.3a940b4d@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:01:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Jackbowk@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1d546d.30adbf26.3a941092@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Weren't there a workhouse in every Poor Law Union? So one looks in which > PLU a town is included to locate the appropriate workhouse. These follow > parish lines to a great extent but one has to assure in every case. > > Jack > > > In a message dated 2/21/2011 1:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > DLCulhane@cs.com writes: > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:09:45 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <17f89e.3e1b5d2c.3a941279@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I know where the workhouse was and have photos of it. I'm asking whether > anyone has searched the records or had someone else do it for them. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-GALWAY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-GALWAY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 > ***************************************** > -- Eamonn Haverty, 1 Tudor Close, Knocknacarra, Galway ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Galway Library site has some photos of the Gort workhouse. Just Google. Diane

Pat, the Galway Library site says the Gort Poor Law Union Archive Collection is in their Archives Section, includes 91 volumes of minute books, two indoor relief registers, one volume of outdoor relief recipients, and other minor documents. It is the registers, of course, that I'm most interested in. Might make a good transcription project for this list if the registers could be filmed. Diane

I am in Galway - give me some time and I will go and see what is actually in these records. On 22 February 2011 08:00, <irl-galway-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (EXT-Glynn, Quintin W) > 2. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 3. Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 4. Re: Galway Workhouses (judy christopher) > 5. Re: Galway Workhouses (wm.karr@comcast.net) > 6. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 7. Re: Galway Workhouses (Jackbowk@aol.com) > 8. Re: Galway Workhouses (DLCulhane@cs.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:15:12 -0600 > From: "EXT-Glynn, Quintin W" <quintin.w.glynn@boeing.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: "irl-galway@rootsweb.com" <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > 685DDAA422F56C4F8EB7FE3C22873257632968F3B2@XCH-MW-13V.mw.nos.boeing.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found references to "denominations" in early 1800 English books. Quote: > > "Within the official townlands, there may be other smaller subdivisions > such as field and farm names. Sometimes these smaller subdivisions are > referred to as "sub-townland denominations" or "minor place names." > > "A "denomination" in a historical Irish record usually refers to a > particular place within a parish, such as a townland, village, or part of a > townland. There are also small communities within townlands not large enough > to be villages or towns; these communities have unique names and may only > include a few houses." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teri Rehurek > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:58 PM > To: irl-galway > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > I am not sure but maybe Defining lines - property lines. I would maybe > run it by a real estate person. Or some one such as a apraiser or city > planner. > > Teri > > > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:41:57 -0500 > > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > > > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note > > that it includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There > > are more denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the > > denominations were subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know > > the purpose of the two listings? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:29:06 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1323c.62db09c0.3a93b492@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thanks very much. By Griffith's many of them had graduated to townlands, > but they were generally small. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:08:03 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1b08d.4c769ed7.3a93f5f3@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who Do > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library has > the > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they are > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for me. > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:56:10 -0500 > From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin69xT7tOK5k-ajcmo8r1=Md+3WUXZ6GHUTVfOp@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is so nice to have someone else do the work for you. > I have nothing in Galway on my Great-Grandfather or his brothers.\ > Judy Christoper > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who > Do > > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library > has > > the > > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they > are > > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for > me. > > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Judy Christopher > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:10:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: wm.karr@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > 832255696.1327662.1298311849441.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Diane, > > > > According to By Aengus O Snodaigh ? 1997 The Irish People, there were > several workhouses in Galway. > > > > Check out: > http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/ireland/ireland_workhouses.htm > > > > Bill > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:39:09 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <7d5b7.7bf8263.3a940b4d@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:01:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Jackbowk@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1d546d.30adbf26.3a941092@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Weren't there a workhouse in every Poor Law Union? So one looks in which > PLU a town is included to locate the appropriate workhouse. These follow > parish lines to a great extent but one has to assure in every case. > > Jack > > > In a message dated 2/21/2011 1:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > DLCulhane@cs.com writes: > > My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the > Gort workhouse. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:09:45 -0500 (EST) > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Galway Workhouses > To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <17f89e.3e1b5d2c.3a941279@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I know where the workhouse was and have photos of it. I'm asking whether > anyone has searched the records or had someone else do it for them. > > Diane > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-GALWAY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-GALWAY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 > ***************************************** > -- Eamonn Haverty, 1 Tudor Close, Knocknacarra, Galway

Are any of Galway workhouses still physically standing? If so, just where are they?

Diane, some of the workhouse records didn't survive and I suspect that may be the case for Gort PLU. I have checked the Family History Library films and there are none for Gort. I also checked Ryan's, Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History, and he lists the workhouse records when available. I find none listed for County Clare or County Galway. > I know where the workhouse was and have photos of it. I'm asking whether > anyone has searched the records or had someone else do it for them. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Diane, According to By Aengus O Snodaigh © 1997 The Irish People, there were several workhouses in Galway. Check out: http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/ireland/ireland_workhouses.htm Bill

I know where the workhouse was and have photos of it. I'm asking whether anyone has searched the records or had someone else do it for them. Diane

Weren't there a workhouse in every Poor Law Union? So one looks in which PLU a town is included to locate the appropriate workhouse. These follow parish lines to a great extent but one has to assure in every case. Jack In a message dated 2/21/2011 1:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DLCulhane@cs.com writes: My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the Gort workhouse. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestors were in Kilmacduagh (Galway) parish, which was served by the Gort workhouse. Diane

It is so nice to have someone else do the work for you. I have nothing in Galway on my Great-Grandfather or his brothers.\ Judy Christoper On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who Do > You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their > ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library has > the > Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they are > or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for me. > Has anyone on the list actually seen them? > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Judy Christopher

Inspired by Rosie O'Donnell's success with her Kildare ancestors on Who Do You Think You Are?, I'm wondering if anyone has had success finding their ancestors in Galway workhouses, in particular Gort. The Galway Library has the Gort workhouse records, but I don't know how detailed or organized they are or if it would be a wild goose chase to ask someone to search them for me. Has anyone on the list actually seen them? Diane

Thanks very much. By Griffith's many of them had graduated to townlands, but they were generally small. Diane

I found references to "denominations" in early 1800 English books. Quote: "Within the official townlands, there may be other smaller subdivisions such as field and farm names. Sometimes these smaller subdivisions are referred to as "sub-townland denominations" or "minor place names." "A "denomination" in a historical Irish record usually refers to a particular place within a parish, such as a townland, village, or part of a townland. There are also small communities within townlands not large enough to be villages or towns; these communities have unique names and may only include a few houses." -----Original Message----- From: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teri Rehurek Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:58 PM To: irl-galway Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question I am not sure but maybe Defining lines - property lines. I would maybe run it by a real estate person. Or some one such as a apraiser or city planner. Teri > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:41:57 -0500 > To: IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note > that it includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There > are more denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the > denominations were subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know > the purpose of the two listings? > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have created a Galway Genealogy Forum: http://www.irishdescent.net/galwayforum/ It's very new so I would appreciate it if you could post information and send the link to any contacts you have made through your Galway research to help build up the community. Any help would be appreciated. Sections of the forum include ‘Looking for Relations’, ‘Where Are We Now and How Did We Get There’ as well as a section for ‘Research Assistants’ where experienced genealogists can volunteer their knowledge. There is also a Facebook page to work along side the forum: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galway-Genealogy-Forum/191115760907438 Galway is the 6th county forum to go online, following Cavan, Donegal, Kilkenny, Roscommon and Mayo. Contact me for details of the other county forums. Kind regards, Annie Forum Administrator Email: galway@irishdescent.net

I DID have the opportunity to learn Gaelic at our local community college this past fall and if any of you get the chance, it is well worth it. And I will never be done with my familys' genealogy, either! Patricia

Thank you for the information! Terry Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:52:01 -0800 From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17 To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTiki3D=giQ-nMVb7q3fmJFvFtXKvHSM+PmNyYQc6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >From Brian Mitchell's book, A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards, 1990: Portunna, Lickmolassy Civil Parish, graveyard, no church Portunna, Boherboy, Lickmolassy CP, Roman Catholic church & attached graveyard Portunna Demesne, Lickmolassy PC, Roman Catholic church & attached graveyard -----Original Message----- From: irl-galway-request <irl-galway-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-galway <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 3:13 am Subject: IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 18 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (judy christopher) 2. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) 3. Re: IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17 (Pat Connors) 4. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (Geralyn Barry) 5. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) 6. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (Maire) 7. Re: Kilmacduagh Tithes Question (DLCulhane@cs.com) 8. (no subject) (BZLho3dS@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:04:33 -0500 From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: mairerobinson@yahoo.co.uk, irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=J2WbC9hhCLqFTuh-vTLU-FYpaWx7Wa=ycm-Aj@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Denomination can also be applied to money. Ex. What is paid in rent or tithes to the landlords. On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Maire <mairerobinson@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Good luck Diana with your transcription of the Tithes. > To me denomination always meant one's religion. If there is a different > meaning I woild love to know. Since the tithes were payments to the > Established Church and the survey was for the purpose of identifying those > who were liable to pay religion might come into it. Catholics resented > having to pay tithes to the Church of Ireland. > Maire > Sent using BlackBerry? from Orange > > -----Original Message----- > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Sender: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:41:57 > To: <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question > > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note that it > includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There are more > denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the denominations > were > subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know the purpose of the two > listings? > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Judy Christopher ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:16:02 -0500 (EST) From: DLCulhane@cs.com Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <36ef4.106603ae.3a9162e2@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The words under Denomination are place names--Teernevin, Fawnen, etc. They appear next to another column headed Townlands. Sometimes the townland and the denomination are the same but usually they're not. In the broadest sense, denomination means name or category. As I said earlier, since there are more denominations than townlands listed, I'm guessing the denominations were subunits within the townlands. By the time of Griffith's most of the denominations were listed as townlands. Diane ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:52:01 -0800 From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17 To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTiki3D=giQ-nMVb7q3fmJFvFtXKvHSM+PmNyYQc6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >From Brian Mitchell's book, A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards, 1990: Portunna, Lickmolassy Civil Parish, graveyard, no church Portunna, Boherboy, Lickmolassy CP, Roman Catholic church & attached graveyard Portunna Demesne, Lickmolassy PC, Roman Catholic church & attached graveyard > > Back in 2004 I took a photo of a headstone in a cemetery in Portumna. The > cemetery was in a church yard but I don't know which church it was. The > family was that of Richard Bohan who died in 1901. Also on the stone are > Catherine, Bridget, John, his wife Mary and their son James. The most recent > date on the grave is 1987. The family was Roman Catholic. Any ideas as how > to find out which church it was? > Thanks in advance for any help you can give. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:53:38 -0800 From: Geralyn Barry <gbarry@proaxis.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D6011B2.8070003@proaxis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You are correct, Diane. It is just a more specific location within a townland to help identify the property. I have seen this column in other tithe records, where it is sometimes called "Farm". (Yes, some farms in Ireland had names, as did some houses.) There were/are many names used locally in Ireland for particular areas within a townland, such as part of a hill, a farm, an individual field, etc. Sometimes people in the local area still know these places by these names. In tithe records and other older records, you sometimes see the older names for townlands (the pre-Ordnance Survey names), denominations within a townland and names of properties like house or farm names. The decision of what to call local places in records was not at all uniform from place to place within Ireland at the time of the tithes. By the time of Griffith's Valuation, the townland had been chosen officially by the government as the smallest denomination to appear in valuation records, census records, and other official government records, and the townland names had been standardized. Those standardized names are the townland names you see on official OS maps of Ireland, in Griffith's Valuation, in the 1901 census, etc. However, if you read through Catholic parish registers, you can still see some of the more local names in parish registers for years after, and sometimes the local spelling of a townland today still differs from the "official" OS spelling. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon On 2/19/2011 6:41 AM, DLCulhane@cs.com wrote: > I'm in the process of transcribing the Kilmacduagh Tithes and note that it > includes both townlands and denominations, side by side. There are more > denominations than townlands, which suggests to me that the denominations were > subdivisions of older townlands. Does anyone know the purpose of the two > listings? > > Diane > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: DLCulhane@cs.com Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <425f5.55638920.3a917821@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks much, Geralyn. Mystery solved! Diane ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:26:50 +0000 From: "Maire" <mairerobinson@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <668182240-1298147030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-143198009-@b14.c2.bise7.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" The tithes question has generated a lot if interest. Tir is Irish for land so Teernevin might mean Nevin's land. Sent using BlackBerry? from Orange -----Original Message----- From: DLCulhane@cs.com Sender: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:16:02 To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question The words under Denomination are place names--Teernevin, Fawnen, etc. They appear next to another column headed Townlands. Sometimes the townland and the denomination are the same but usually they're not. In the broadest sense, denomination means name or category. As I said earlier, since there are more denominations than townlands listed, I'm guessing the denominations were subunits within the townlands. By the time of Griffith's most of the denominations were listed as townlands. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:13:13 -0500 (EST) From: DLCulhane@cs.com Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question To: mairerobinson@yahoo.co.uk, irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <744ee.2440a7e8.3a918c69@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" When I finish my family history, I'll take up Irish! Diane ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:27:25 -0500 (EST) From: BZLho3dS@aol.com Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] (no subject) To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4b780.5666ef7b.3a91b9ed@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>>When I finish my family history, I'll take up Irish!<<< FINISH your family history. Good one, Diane!!! Laughed till I cried... sheila ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-GALWAY list administrator, send an email to IRL-GALWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-GALWAY mailing list, send an email to IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-GALWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 18 *****************************************

The tithes question has generated a lot if interest. Tir is Irish for land so Teernevin might mean Nevin's land. Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: DLCulhane@cs.com Sender: irl-galway-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:16:02 To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: irl-galway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Kilmacduagh Tithes Question The words under Denomination are place names--Teernevin, Fawnen, etc. They appear next to another column headed Townlands. Sometimes the townland and the denomination are the same but usually they're not. In the broadest sense, denomination means name or category. As I said earlier, since there are more denominations than townlands listed, I'm guessing the denominations were subunits within the townlands. By the time of Griffith's most of the denominations were listed as townlands. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-GALWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message