Hi, I have just been looking up medals on ebay and found one for 1228 SGT. P.J. LYNCH. RL. IRISH FUS. I know that someone on this list was looking for LYNCH, so hope this may be of some help. If you need more info e-mail me. Good Luck, Jo Smith Researching: ROSS, DIETRICH, HODGSON, BLACKBURN in South Africa, Ireland and England http://www.glenalwinfarm.net

Thanks to all who responded with helpful suggestions! We had a basic search done through East and West Galway, with no conclusive results, I have continued to look in US records, but information on these families is limited. Seems like every where they lived, records were destroyed by fire or flood! From the information we have found, William Broderick arrived in US abt. 1844 (still looking for him on the shipping lists). We found Bridget (Wall) Broderick arriving in 1847, with daughters Mary and Margaret. Would searching Griffiths help since they left Ireland in the 1840's? Thanks again for your time, Donna Kinney -------------- Original message -------------- > Re: Brodericks/Wall/Coyne/Moran > > You seem to have so much information that it's surprising you don't have a > more precise location in Galway. > If you haven't already done so,you should conduct a search in Griffiths . > You are looking for those names to occur in close proximity,so you need > townland maps to work from,as well as a general Galway civil parish map. > > > The easiest way is to log on to _www.otherdays_ (http://www.otherdays) .com > and pay for a 72 hour search for about 8 euro/dollars. Best bargain around! > Run all four SURNAMES through a Galway search. > Don't bother too much with first names,as you don't know which one would be > listed as head of household. > > Print off the list of locations for each surname.Then you can start to cross > check. > Most couples married within a 3 mile radius.This would frequently cross a > parish boundary,which is why a map is so important. > You have 4 known surnames,which should narrow things considerably. > > For example- I took the first parish,Abbeygormacan,and found 3 of the 4 > names there. > Do this with each parish. > Hopefully ,at least one parish will have all 4 names within it.They don't > necessarily have to be in the same townland at this point. > > If you don't find a parish with all 4 names, then go back to the ones with 3 > matches,and check if the fourth name occurs in a neighbouring parish. > > At the end of the exercise,you should have a list of the most likely > parishes. > > Parish records in Galway are poor,so don't expect to find the > births/marriages in the parish records.However,once you have a likely > location,you have > something to base your further searches on. > Cathy > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Have you traveled or are you planning to travel to Ireland??? > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Eire_Travel/ > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi List, I am trying to find any info re the following: Thomas Sarsfield was born about 1838 somewhere in Ireland. He was the son of Michael & Mary Riley Sarsfield. Michael & Mary were also born in Ireland and were deceased by 1857. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Carolyn (TX, USA)

Try http://www.irelandoldnews.com There may be something there. Eilis O'Hara --- Josi <geoghegangatherer@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Would some kind soul tell me if they know of any > access to any/many > old newspapers??? > > Looking for geoghegan reports c...1800 > I can dream > > jo > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Join an Ireland list that discusses Irish genealogy, > history, and culture. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Would some kind soul tell me if they know of any access to any/many old newspapers??? Looking for geoghegan reports c...1800 I can dream jo

Coming in late on this thread. Don't miss Archbishop Bernard Sheil who invigorated the Catholic Church in Chicago. Among other things, the Catholic student center at Northwestern University was named in his honor and he named as Chaplain there a much beloved 6'8" priest named Cornelius MacGillicuddy who was the nephew of the famed Philadelphia As Connie Mack. ----- Original Message ----- From: CathOneill@aol.com To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [GALWAY] lost a marriage Mark Is it your grandfather or Patrick O'Donnell who was the national school teacher? Did you check on O'Donnell /Shiel marriages OUTSIDE of Galway? I have a feeling that some National school teachers were sent on postings. Many of the ones I have come across in the 1901 and 1911 censuses gave their place of birth as a different county to where they were working. I don't know how widespread a practice it was. I had a look for Sheil/Shiel etc in Griffiths c 1855 - much too early I know- but there were none listed for Tuam at that time,which may be significant. And only one O'Donnell- so it is a possibility. Any marriage would normally take place in the female's home parish. If Patrick was away from home,or his wife was also a teacher,then they could have married anywhere. Have you had a look at the 1901 census for Tuam? Or the 1911 might be more useful,as it gives the number of years married,so you could work out the exact year of marriage with some degree of accuracy (he was a teacher after all!) I searched for an Isaac O'Donnell/Isaac Shiel anywhere in Ireland,assuming your grandfather was named after his,or some other near relative. There was an Isaac Shiel married to Winifred Kerrans in Foxford,Mayo having kids in the 1860s and 1870s.Mary could fit this time frame,and Foxford is only 30 miles from Tuam. On the whole,Isaac is a rare name in Galway.It's found most frequently in the northern counties. I assume you checked for all variations of O'Donnell as well as Shiel? Have you looked at the Tuam parish registers? Were there any siblings? Cathy ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, July 5, 1824 DIED At the Grove, in Tuam, on Sunday, at an advanced age, Mrs. Chevers, relict of the late John Chevers, of Killian, in the County of Galway, Esq.- A lady of the most agreeable and prepossessing manners, and whose unbounded goodness of heart acquired for her the love and esteem of the poor, to whom she was a most generous benefactress.- She was universally known, esteemed, and respected. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Dear Marcie I can't fault your interpretation of the records- it works for me! However, the reason for Griffiths was to establish the land/property value for tax purposes. So,although it shows John Fee as the landlord for Rose's house, we are never going to know who actually paid the rent. If it was his mother,maybe she preferred the peace and quiet of her own place rather than in a household full of kids! You would need to establish her approximate age to ever work out if she was his mother,his sister-in-law,or even an unmarried sister. Just out of interest,the numbering system used by Griffiths can be of significance. In this case it was straightforward- 1 a+b The instruction manual that accompanied the Griffiths survyors stipulated: "when a cottager's house and gardens are included within the limits of a farm,the farmer's house should have the italic letter a prefixed to the number of the lot.....the cottager's houses the letter b,c,d etc." Some entries are more complex and it is sometimes possible to deduce family relationships from them. In general terms,anyone holding 5 acres or less was considered a cottier or labourer.Between 5-30 acres was a small farmer,and more than 30 acres, a large farmer. A building could be only a "house" or an "office". A house included dwellings,and public buildings such as schools,churches. An office included factories,mills,shops,as well as farm buildings-stables,cowbarn,piggery etc. A typical holding will be "house,office and land",or "house and garden". A garden meant a small plot of land used to raise food,be it in the country or in town. It was not a flower bed. Going back to Marcie's family- I think Rose's name was STRETTON/STRETTAN rather than Stratton. I'm sure you have found this already- there are very few of that name in the parish. Michael,farming in Drumbad,and John,Hugh and Hugh jun. in Drumbibe. The RC records date from 1841. I don't have a townland map of Leitrim,so I can't tell how close the townlands are to each other.I did notice another John Fee farming in Clogher,and a further 9+ acres of land rented to a John Fee in Cromlin and Unshinagh.Whether or not this last was your John or the other one,you can only tell by looking at the revisions and comparing dates etc.(I'm sure you've done this already.) Just one other avenue - do you know the name of the landlord in 1833? Grenham mentions estate records for Sir Humphrey Crofton being available in the NLI. He includes townlands in Oughteragh parish "rental,March 1833,with tenant's names in alphabetical order...." Now,the Croftons no longer owned any land in that parish, in Grifiths c 1856,but they might have done so in 1833. Just a thought. Regards Cathy

Am responding to numerous contributions about the Griffith's Land Valuation and the Revised Land Valuations after the Griffith's in hopes that what I have found will help others and that some of my "assumptions" are correct. My Irish ancestors either left or died in Counties Cork, Galway and Leitrim before the Girffith's Valuation; so all my research of Griffith's and the revised Land Valuations have lead me to siblings of my great great great grandfather Patrick Fee of County Leitrim. Am still stuck for "real" leads for my Cork O'Neil, Murphy and O'Connell ancestors and my Maddens of Galway. I know that my Fee family came from the Ballinamore area of County Leitrim. But I hsve never been able to find my great great great grandfather Patrick Fee who refused to leave his land during the Famine of the 1840s and 1850s. Most of his chidren left between 1848 and 1851. The family story states that Patrick remained in Irealnd, died there in 1853 and that after he died his wife Catherine Tubman Fee came to America with her 3 youngest childre and joined the rest of her children in Hingham, Massachusetts. I have found Catherine and the 3 youngest children on a Passinger Ship entering Boston in March of 1853 and settling in Hingham. I found a James Fee in Liscuilfea townland within the "Ballinamore area" of County Leitrim on the 1833 Tithe Valuation. By the 1854 Griffith's, James was gone, believe he died but since there are no death records for that period of time, I can only assume James died versus having left Ireland. A John Fee was listed on the 1854 Griffith's on the same Liscuilfea land along with a Rose Fee who was renting a small house from him. I traced John's family on the Revised Valuations; and in conjunction with 1901 and 1911 Census returns have identified all of his family members. Rose Fee either died or left in the late 1850s as she was crossed out on subsequent Revised Valuations and John never rented the house again. No death record has been found for Rose yet...but there "should" be one as there were death records at the time she no longer appears on the Revised Land Valuations....ugh...... I have traced, through family stories and John's children, the fact that he was the brother to my ggggrandfather Patrick Fee. Family stories also said that Patrick and John had a brother James Fee. I have theorized that the James Fee on the Liscuilfea land for the 1833 Tithe was this brother. And that Rose Fee was James' wife who as a widow when John "got" the land, rented from her brother-in-law. Using Irish naming traditions, I further substantiate this by the fact that my Patrick's third son was named James Fee. Naming traditions name the first son after the father's father, second son after the mother's father and the third son after the father's eldest brother. If James Fee on the Tithe of 1833 was John's father then after James had died, his wife Rose would have lived with her son John versus renting from him. Am I on the right tract believing that since Rose Fee rented from John Fee that she would probably have been John's sister-in-law versus his mother? What son would make his mother rent a house from him? I have further theorized that James and Rose Fee were husband wife with a Bridget Fee (from County Leitrim) who shows up in Hingham, Massachusetts with Patrick's children in the 1850s. This Bridget was the godmother to some of Patrick's grandchildren....I therefore theorized she was a close relative! From Bridget Fee's marriage record, her parents were a James and Rose (Stratton) Fee. Same James and Rose Fee of Liscuilfea? Hopefully some of my "deductions" will help others to research all land "valuations" (Tithe, Griffith's and Revised Land Valuations) as they present a marvelous image of whom lived where, who neighbors were and how the land passed from one family member to another. Usually the land went to the oldest son, but many times one finds daughter's getting the land...thus perhaps no sons or all the sons left Ireland or died. It is all a fascinating and fun detective's tracking! I am very open to any and all comments on my "theories" and deductions. Marcie

There are two possibilities Mark. 1. The marriage was never registered in the civil books - common enough occurrence or, hopefully for you - 2 . they were married somewhere that you didn't think of checking. First of all, did you check all the records for all the Patricks married in Ireland - or at least the 12 districts that take in all or part of Galway for the years you looked at? If he was born in 1904, and you have an address for that year, then you could check the 1911 census - on that, the number of years that the couple have been married is listed - and as with ages, you can take a year or two eitehr side of the year that you think the marriage occurred and check those years for a marriage reference for both Patrick and Mary. If you don't find two matching refs - then the marriage was not registered Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark o'donnell" <mark@odoodle.fsnet.co.uk> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: [GALWAY] lost a marriage > anyone help? > my grandfather was born in newtown,abbey,tuam in 1904.

Where would I find this? Who did the revisions? I know about Griffiths, but not the revisions. Thanks for the help. Charlotte

anyone help? my grandfather was born in newtown,abbey,tuam in 1904. his parents were listed as patrick o'donnell and mary v.(sheil). he was a national school teacher. ive been to the mormons and looked at irish marriages from 1881-1904 but found only 2 patricks in galway(1 in tuam). but no sheil or various spellings! any ideas? mark

Mark Is it your grandfather or Patrick O'Donnell who was the national school teacher? Did you check on O'Donnell /Shiel marriages OUTSIDE of Galway? I have a feeling that some National school teachers were sent on postings. Many of the ones I have come across in the 1901 and 1911 censuses gave their place of birth as a different county to where they were working. I don't know how widespread a practice it was. I had a look for Sheil/Shiel etc in Griffiths c 1855 - much too early I know- but there were none listed for Tuam at that time,which may be significant. And only one O'Donnell- so it is a possibility. Any marriage would normally take place in the female's home parish. If Patrick was away from home,or his wife was also a teacher,then they could have married anywhere. Have you had a look at the 1901 census for Tuam? Or the 1911 might be more useful,as it gives the number of years married,so you could work out the exact year of marriage with some degree of accuracy (he was a teacher after all!) I searched for an Isaac O'Donnell/Isaac Shiel anywhere in Ireland,assuming your grandfather was named after his,or some other near relative. There was an Isaac Shiel married to Winifred Kerrans in Foxford,Mayo having kids in the 1860s and 1870s.Mary could fit this time frame,and Foxford is only 30 miles from Tuam. On the whole,Isaac is a rare name in Galway.It's found most frequently in the northern counties. I assume you checked for all variations of O'Donnell as well as Shiel? Have you looked at the Tuam parish registers? Were there any siblings? Cathy

Dear Anne re:Griffiths Revisions for Colman Flaherty Bungowla I think it's quite straightforward. Colman dies c 1888 and "widow" is written in above his crossed out name. This is later amended to include her full name - Bridget,in 1890. I haven't gone in to too much detail about the different copies of the Revisions,who got them ,how often, as it's quite complicated and not really necessary to use them. Amendments were not made that often - straightforward changes such as this one would have been written in at the local level ,usually when provided with the info by the person concerned. They were updated by a "reviser" at maybe 5 year intervals,maybe 10. Some Unions were better than others at keeping tabs on changes. In this case,they would have been notified of Colman's death, by the lessor's agent,probably. Bridget's name would have been added when the assessor came around on his check a year or so later. The Valuation copy you got has been coloured to correspond to those two changes. The dates are not to be taken as gospel,,just indicators that something of importance happened to that family around that time. Bridget seems to have died about 1907- or at least,her name is taken off the record. The house passes to Margaret Flaherty,who I think is her daughter -in-law. What happens to her son Michael? Is he dead as well? Cathy

Eamonn Posted details about Griffith's Revisions on this list on the 16th of this month. You should find it in the archives. Cathy

Judy, Here's the link: http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ Eilis O'Hara --- judy christopher <ajuntas@rcn.com> wrote: > Is the address www.nationalarchives.ie is that > correct? Thanks Judy > Christopher > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CathOneill@aol.com> > To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:06 PM > Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Broderick in Galway > > > > Try _www.nationalarchives_ > (http://www.nationalarchives) .ie and follow > > links to genealogy. > > Cathy > > > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > > Join an Ireland list that discusses Irish > genealogy, history, and culture. > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > East Galway Family History Society: > http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm > County Galway Library: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/ > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Leigh, FYI, there were 114 entries for the Broderick surname in the Co. Galway Griffiths Valuation. You should also note most information in Ireland in the 1800s is based on civil divisions of County, Barony, Civil Parish, Townland and Poor Law Union. Townlands aren't generally the same as a town, i.e. market centre and you generally won't find them on a roadmap. Here's a link to a description of the civil divisions: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/2435.asp There's a list of all the townlands in Ireland at http://www.seanruad.com and just select the county you're interested in. Irish emigrants generally referred to their townland or civil parish as the place of origination. Townland maps can often be difficult to obtain for those not living in Ireland. There are microfilm copies from the Ordnance Survey Maps (referenced in Griffiths) thru a LDS Family History Centre. There's also a series of maps called Discovery Maps for all the counties which give much (but not all) of the townland detail. I don't know what their availability is in the US. I believe they can be ordered online and you may be able to order them thru your local booksellers. Eilis O'Hara --- Eilis O'Hara <naeireann4@yahoo.ie> wrote: > Griffiths was a list prepared for tax purposes of > those who rented or owned land in Ireland. It was > completed for all the counties between 1848 and 1864 > and is known as Griffiths Valuation of Ireland or > Griffiths Valuation of Tenements in Ireland. > > It was done in Co. Galway in 1855. Griffiths doesn't > contain any family detail. It lists the townland > (in > the civil parish) and occupiers (i.e. those who > rented > the property), the immediate lessor (generally the > person who actually owned the land), a description > of > the tenement, i.e. land, land house and offices, > land > and house, etc., the area, the rateable annual > valuation, the total valuation of rateable property > and the ordnance survey map reference of the > location. > > > Because there are generally no surviving census > records for Ireland for the 1800s and civil > registration didn't start until 1864, Griffiths is > one > of the major sources of research in addition to > church > registers. > > You need to check the detailed Griffiths lists to > identify if the land had a dwelling on it. Many > people rented land just for farming and didn't live > there. > > You can search Griffiths for surnames and given > names > associated with those online and that's fee based. > The > Irish Origins website gives that fee based access > and > that's the same site used at the National Library of > Ireland in Dublin. > > There are also indexes and transcriptions of it > available online but generally they don't contain > the > detailed information on what was on the land, i.e. > if > there was a house. > > You can access microfilm copies of it at a LDS > Family > History Centre. > > Eilis O'Hara > > --- Lejax99@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 8/24/2004 8:10:42 AM Eastern > > Standard Time, > > CathOneill@aol.com writes: > > > > > If you haven't already done so,you should > conduct > > a search in Griffiths > > > > I am very new to all this and just trying to soak > in > > knowledge.. Can someone > > please tell me what "Griffiths" is.. I did a > > "Keyword:Griffiths" to see if I > > could link to something but of course unless I > want > > to learn more about the > > Andy Griffith Show" not much else was found ; - ) > > > > thanks > > Leigh in Ohio > > > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > > East Galway Family History Society: > > http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm > > County Galway Library: > http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/ > > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Griffiths was a list prepared for tax purposes of those who rented or owned land in Ireland. It was completed for all the counties between 1848 and 1864 and is known as Griffiths Valuation of Ireland or Griffiths Valuation of Tenements in Ireland. It was done in Co. Galway in 1855. Griffiths doesn't contain any family detail. It lists the townland (in the civil parish) and occupiers (i.e. those who rented the property), the immediate lessor (generally the person who actually owned the land), a description of the tenement, i.e. land, land house and offices, land and house, etc., the area, the rateable annual valuation, the total valuation of rateable property and the ordnance survey map reference of the location. Because there are generally no surviving census records for Ireland for the 1800s and civil registration didn't start until 1864, Griffiths is one of the major sources of research in addition to church registers. You need to check the detailed Griffiths lists to identify if the land had a dwelling on it. Many people rented land just for farming and didn't live there. You can search Griffiths for surnames and given names associated with those online and that's fee based. The Irish Origins website gives that fee based access and that's the same site used at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. There are also indexes and transcriptions of it available online but generally they don't contain the detailed information on what was on the land, i.e. if there was a house. You can access microfilm copies of it at a LDS Family History Centre. Eilis O'Hara --- Lejax99@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/24/2004 8:10:42 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > CathOneill@aol.com writes: > > > If you haven't already done so,you should conduct > a search in Griffiths > > I am very new to all this and just trying to soak in > knowledge.. Can someone > please tell me what "Griffiths" is.. I did a > "Keyword:Griffiths" to see if I > could link to something but of course unless I want > to learn more about the > Andy Griffith Show" not much else was found ; - ) > > thanks > Leigh in Ohio > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > East Galway Family History Society: > http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm > County Galway Library: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/ > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Is the address www.nationalarchives.ie is that correct? Thanks Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: <CathOneill@aol.com> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Broderick in Galway > Try _www.nationalarchives_ (http://www.nationalarchives) .ie and follow > links to genealogy. > Cathy > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Join an Ireland list that discusses Irish genealogy, history, and culture. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:19:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, naeireann4@yahoo.ie writes: > Eilis O'Hara Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question