Brian, Have you taken a look at the Woodford parish transcriptins on rootsweb? or, the rootsweb Woodford site? Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Coyne" <coynegen@westelcom.com> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: [GALWAY] Family History Society > I recently wrote to the RC church in Woodford to

May I second a request for information on this organization. My ancestors also are from East Galway, so perhaps it would be of use to me as well. If it seem okay, perhaps you could send me their mailing address and/or e-mail address. Thank you, Judy, in Washington State, USA -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Coyne [mailto:coynegen@westelcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:29 AM To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GALWAY] Family History Society I recently wrote to the RC church in Woodford to inquire about my ggfather. In responce I received a letter from the East Galway Family History Society Company Ltd. They claim to be the official genealogical research centre for east Galway and included a map of same along with the claim of jurisdiction over this area. For $80 they will tell me if I'm looking in the right County, give me 1 generations information, if available, and inform me if information exists for other generations. I assume that would be an additional fee. Has anyone done business with them? Is this a typical fee structure? In what way are they official? Bruce Coyne Clayton, NY ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== New!! Irish-American Mailing List, http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-AMERICAN.html To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Hi Lillian I have noticed your mention of Frenchs in Galway before and wonder if we have any common ancestors. My Frenchs come from Monivea. My great great grandmother was Lucinda Anne French born about 1850 in Monivea. Her parents were James French and Jane Cowan. She had several siblings - Charlotte Sarah, Louis, Robert Digby and Charles Albert are confirmed. Lucinda (Lucy) came to Canada in the early 1870's. She married William Crawford (probably from Carlow) in Ottawa in 1874. They later lived at Maple Island, Ontario. Charlotte came to Canada in 1885 to marry Rev. T.H. Canham, an Anglican missionary in the far north of Canada. Any connection? Marilyn Lappi --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Hi Lillian I have noticed your mention of Frenchs in Galway before and wonder if we have any common ancestors. My Frenchs come from Monivea. My great great grandmother was Lucinda Anne French born about 1850 in Monivea. Her parents were James French and Jane Cowan. She had several siblings - Charlotte Sarah, Louis, Robert Digby and Charles Albert are confirmed. Lucinda (Lucy) came to Canada in the early 1870's. She married William Crawford (probably from Carlow) in Ottawa in 1874. They later lived at Maple Island, Ontario. Charlotte came to Canada in 1885 to marry Rev. T.H. Canham, an Anglican missionary in the far north of Canada. Any connection? Marilyn Lappi --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Hi Lillian I have noticed your mention of Frenchs in Galway before and wonder if we have any common ancestors. My Frenchs come from Monivea. My great great grandmother was Lucinda Anne French born about 1850 in Monivea. Her parents were James French and Jane Cowan. She had several siblings - Charlotte Sarah, Louis, Robert Digby and Charles Albert are confirmed. Lucinda (Lucy) came to Canada in the early 1870's. She married William Crawford (probably from Carlow) in Ottawa in 1874. They later lived at Maple Island, Ontario. Charlotte came to Canada in 1885 to marry Rev. T.H. Canham, an Anglican missionary in the far north of Canada. Any connection? Marilyn Lappi --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

I recently wrote to the RC church in Woodford to inquire about my ggfather. In responce I received a letter from the East Galway Family History Society Company Ltd. They claim to be the official genealogical research centre for east Galway and included a map of same along with the claim of jurisdiction over this area. For $80 they will tell me if I'm looking in the right County, give me 1 generations information, if available, and inform me if information exists for other generations. I assume that would be an additional fee. Has anyone done business with them? Is this a typical fee structure? In what way are they official? Bruce Coyne Clayton, NY

Hello. I am looking for the family of William and Mary Langley ( Tannyan/Tannian ) They were married around 1840 in Ireland, They were living in Loughrea in the mid to upper 1800s. They ran a Boot and Shoe warehouse on Church st in Loughrea. After their death, William and Mary's children ran it till around 1930 or 40. One son was living in Loughrea and one son was living in Gort, do not know were the other children were in the middle 1900s. Any information on this family will be appreciated, also looking for information on were to find a marriage record for William and Mary Langley. Best wishes. Bob.

Dear Cathy I originally requested maps from the Valuation Office which would enable me to pinpoint a particular property/tie in with Griffiths. The reply said: "The first comprehensive mapping of holdings in Inishmore was carried out following a revision in 1919 when the overall land area was sub-divided amongst the occupiers and all the map reference numbers were changed. Because of these changes it is extremely difficult to reconcile the Griffith entries with the entries on the map in 1919". They forwarded a copy of the 1919 map (4 ft x 3 ft) of Inishmore, Sheet 2, enlarged from Sheet 110. (the map references have me foxed), together with extracts from the valuation books for Bungowla Quarter within the townland of Onaght. Pages 162 & 163. They also sent me A3 photocopies of the Revisions 1880's to 1890's (pages 46 & 47) but no map references are noted. 1906 to 1933 (pages 154 to 157) - the details in the column "Reference to Map" are such they are mind boggling. The details of occupiers are a proper mix up. I think the information I am looking for is on page 157 but I can't make any sense of it all. There is no mention of Colman either. You mention Colman/Bridget Flaherty's daughter Margaret - where did she come from? From records I have viewed only John is listed in baptismal records, Michael I picked up from the 1901 census. I had high hopes of the 1911 census but what the heck. The reason I give my Irish research a break is because I keep going round in circles. I thought I could move on a bit with all the data mentioned above, but not so. You must be a genius to get your head around it all. Anne

Does anyone on the list know the parents of Bridget French who died in 1764 in Galway? I'm going to Ireland next week to research my FRENCH Family. Thank you Lillian

Hi Eilis, Thanks for responding to my query. Thomas did immigrate to the US. Michael & Mary Riley Sarsfield were deceased before Thomas and family left. Thomas went to Glasgow sometime before 1857. In 1857 at St Alphonsus Chapel he married Ann McDonald. Several children were born in Glasgow and some of these children died there. Ann, sons Patrick & Thomas, dau Mary Ann immigrated to the US through New York aboard the ship Anglia. They arrived in NY on 21 Jul 1870. I have not yet found the immigration date for Thomas, Sr. However, he was in the US prior to 1874 when son George was born in Pennsylvania in May 1874. Thomas, Sr died in PA on 07 Mar 1876. Carolyn ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

Hello list, Can anyone help please. I am researching the name MEEHAN. I have a lady who on her death details here in NZ have her as being born in....Happy Lane, Galway. Please is there such a place or was there such a place around 1891. Any and all info. on this will be greatly appreciated. Thank you Carol Orr/NZ

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Freeman Journal Dublin, Ireland Saturday, May 19, 1764 MARRIAGES.] Robert Bodkin of Annagh, in the County of Galway, Esq; to Miss Brabazon, of Newpark, in the County of Mayo. DEATHS.] At Galway, aged 84, Mrs. Bridget French Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

It's in Moycullen civil parish. Probably in Moycullen RC,but just possibly falls into Spiddal parish. LDS film no.0926071 from 1786 with gaps - Moycullen. LDS film no.0979690 from 1891- Spiddal. Cathy

Does anyone know what parish Pollnaglocha, Co. Galway would fall into? And if there are church records available for it at the Nat'l Library in Dublin? Thanks. Nancy in Sacramento _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

Cathy Profuse apologies for not responding to your message. Problems with computer, chemo, and a death in the family. I don't know anything about Michael Flaherty other than (if I am correct) he is John's brother and was listed along with his wife and children, plus John and Bridget on the 1901 census. I don't even know if John had any other siblings apart from Michael. An important question Cathy, how do you know the house passed to Margaret Flaherty? There is no note on the documentation I received from the Valuation Office. Are there other separate records? Once again, forgive me for not acknowledging your reply. Regards Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: CathOneill@aol.com To: alan.barber2@ntlworld.com ; IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Re: 1911 Census Dear Anne re:Griffiths Revisions for Colman Flaherty Bungowla I think it's quite straightforward. Colman dies c 1888 and "widow" is written in above his crossed out name. This is later amended to include her full name - Bridget,in 1890. I haven't gone in to too much detail about the different copies of the Revisions,who got them ,how often, as it's quite complicated and not really necessary to use them. Amendments were not made that often - straightforward changes such as this one would have been written in at the local level ,usually when provided with the info by the person concerned. They were updated by a "reviser" at maybe 5 year intervals,maybe 10. Some Unions were better than others at keeping tabs on changes. In this case,they would have been notified of Colman's death, by the lessor's agent,probably. Bridget's name would have been added when the assessor came around on his check a year or so later. The Valuation copy you got has been coloured to correspond to those two changes. The dates are not to be taken as gospel,,just indicators that something of importance happened to that family around that time. Bridget seems to have died about 1907- or at least,her name is taken off the record. The house passes to Margaret Flaherty,who I think is her daughter -in-law. What happens to her son Michael? Is he dead as well? Cathy

Carolyn, Did Thomas as well as Michael and Mary Riley Sarsfield all emigrate to the US and if so do you have an approximate date? Do you have information connecting them to Galway? There are generally no surviving Irish census records for the 1800s. Eilis O'Hara --- oscar r stone <ostonesfun@juno.com> wrote: > Hi List, > I am trying to find any info re the > following: > Thomas Sarsfield was born about 1838 > somewhere in Ireland. He was > the son of Michael & Mary Riley Sarsfield. Michael & > Mary were also born > in Ireland and were deceased by 1857. > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. > Carolyn (TX, USA) > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ===== ***NO UNSOLICITED PERSONAL E-MAILS PLEASE.*** ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

I want to thank Michael Cronin (Cork), Cathy O'Neill (Galway)and Nancy Gray (Leitrim) for their very informative responses to my queries and theories. I am responding now to all 3 lists with Michael's, Cathy's and Nancy's comments as they are a fine genealogy course in and of themselves. Hope all of you will wade through all of this information. Michael wrote: You have done everything exactly as you should and you findings are typical of many. The next step is to access parish records, you didn't say if catholic but I am going to assume they are. I know nothing about Leitrim but the usual way to do this is through the county heritage centre, if there is one. I will cost you but it is worth it and remember to give them all the information you have, the more you give them the more they are likely to find. My Comments: Michael, my Fee family was/is Catholic. I wrote to the Leitrim Genealogy Center when I first began my research....paid the big bucks......and they found nothing on my great great great grandfather, Patrick Fee, his wife Catherine Tubman Fee nor my great great grandfather James Fee. They said since the family on all America records had stated they were from Ballinamore, County Leitrim, that they probably came from Oughteragh Parish area. Patrick died too early (1853) for any death/burial records. James Fee was born in 1832, again too early for any Baptismal records (Oughteragh parish records begin in 1841). Patrick and Catherine were probably married around 1825, again too early for any parish marriage record (again Oughteragh parish marriage records begin in 1841). I was disappointed that the Leitrim Center did not look into any of James Fee's siblings. When one asks for a "family search", they only do "your line". I have found so much by straying off on side branches! I later asked them to check on the marriage record of 1843 for James' half brother Thomas Fee and a Mary Baxter. They found the record and I was able to get the record from the parish priest. Sadly, neither Thomas Fee nor Mary Baxter listed the townland where they lived! Ugh! Thomas and Mary had had 2 children in Ireland before they came to America. The Leitrim Center did find those baptismals for me, 1844 and 1847. Again no townland was listed. Michael wrote: Another thing you can do is to check the registry of deeds. All the indexes and memorials have been filmed by the LDS. These are records of land transactions and have been indexed by both townland name and surname. Of the two the townland index is usually the most useful unless you have a very unusual surname. My Comments: Michael, I have looked at some LDS films of Registry of Deeds/Memorials, and found nothing. The Clements family were the landlords for the Liscuilfea townland land. I could not find any reference to "renters" in Liscuilfea on any of the Clements' deeds for the early to mid1800s. I still have to check on the landlord for Dernahelty Beg townland. The name Dernahilthra has been passed down through family stories and the Leitrim Genealogy Center said this had to have been Dernahelty Beg. Not sure why Dernahelty Beg versus Dernahelty More.... My ggggrandfather Patrick Fee was first married to a Rose Dolan. They had 2 sons Thomas and Michael. There were Dolans living in Dernahelty Beg on the 1833 Tithe. Perhaps, Patrick lived there on some of his first wife's family's land???? The Tithe has a D. Brady listed as the proprietor of the land, but I believe Brady oversaw the land holdings for what appears to be a group of landlords, Suley, Jones and Hodder. I may be mispelling these names as the script writing on the Tithe is impossible to read at times. These 3 names appear as the proprietor on other townlands very near to Dernahelty Beg. Sometimes they are with D. Brady and sometimes by themselves. I still have to determine if all these people were different levels of overseers for the "real" landlord or if the 3 were the landlords. I have been told that Brady was an overseer, a bad one at that. Michael wrote: The next step involves travel to Ireland My Comments: I have travelled to Ireland.....marvelous journeys meeting wonderful people.....I have found many "far-off" cousins in Ireland...but alas Patrick's gravestone and exact townland land still eludes me. I have found the gravestone of the wife, Margaret, of John Fee of Liscuilfea. She died in August of 1853 and was thus among the first to be buried in the Aughnasheelin graveyard as that cemetery opened in the early 1850s. Only her name is on the stone, but a descendent of hers has told me that there are probably more people, including her husband, John, buried in the plot with her whose names were not put on the stone. I seriously doubt that my Patrick Fee is buried in this plot. He died January/February of 1853 since his wife and 3 youngest children arrived in Boston May 1853. Thus he died before Margaret and I would hope wound have had a stone marker. There are many old unreadable gravestones in this Aughnasheelin cemetery and in the older Oughteragh cemetery. Margaret Fee's gravestone is however the oldest Fee marker I have found in either of these cemeteries. I also found my Tubman cousins while visiting Leitrim. Thomas Fee's (first son of Patrick Fee) marriage record had noted a William Tubman as a witness. Tubman cousins have told me that William was probably a "cousin" to Thomas through his step-mother Catherine Tubman Fee. Thomas Fee would have chosen a close unmarried friend/relative. William Tubman was unmarried at the time (1841), close in age and being the nephew of Catherine Tubman Fee, Thomas and he would have known each other well. Cathy wrote: I can't fault your interpretation of the records- it works for me! However, the reason for Griffiths was to establish the land/property value for tax purposes. So,although it shows John Fee as the landlord for Rose's house, we are never going to know who actually paid the rent. If it was his mother,maybe she preferred the peace and quiet of her own place rather than in a household full of kids! You would need to establish her approximate age to ever work out if she was his mother,his sister-in-law,or even an unmarried sister. My Comments: Cathy, I did not realize that I could not assume that John paid the rent as he was listed first for the Liscuilfea land, with Rose after him and shown as paying John rent. Thank you. The Revised Valuations however show John renting from the Clements family and Rose renting from John Fee. I have tried to find Rose's death record. The Leitrim Genealogy Center should have it in their record collection if Rose did indeed die after her name was crossed out on the Revised Valuations in 1863-1864. When the Leitrim Genealogy Center wrote that they had no death record for a Rose Fee during that time, I began to think that perhaps she had left Ireland to join family in America....I have found no Rose Fee of the correct "age span" in Hingham, Massachusetts where Bridget Fee (whom I believe was Rose's daughter) lived. But am still looking. U.S. Census and State's Census records leave out intervening years. I need to invigorate a family member close to or in Hingham to search through Hingham directories. Cathy wrote: Just out of interest,the numbering system used by Griffiths can be of significance. In this case it was straightforward- 1 a+b The instruction manual that accompanied the Griffiths survyors stipulated: "when a cottager's house and gardens are included within the limits of a farm,the farmer's house should have the italic letter a prefixed to the number of the lot.....the cottager's houses the letter b,c,d etc." Some entries are more complex and it is sometimes possible to deduce family relationships from them. In general terms,anyone holding 5 acres or less was considered a cottier or labourer.Between 5-30 acres was a small farmer,and more than 30 acres, a large farmer. A building could be only a "house" or an "office". A house included dwellings,and public buildings such as schools,churches. An office included factories,mills,shops,as well as farm buildings-stables,cowbarn,piggery etc. A typical holding will be "house,office and land",or "house and garden". A garden meant a small plot of land used to raise food,be it in the country or in town. It was not a flower bed. My Comments: Rose was definitely renting from John a house and small garden. Thank you Cathy, now I know this was a veggie garden..... The Tithe, Griffith's and the Revised Valuations all listed pretty much the same "things" for the Fee property. Acreage has stayed at 25-27 acres with a house, office and land. The later Census returns listed all the buildings so I could imagine all the different types of barns, stables, piggery etc. All of this has stayed in the hands of a Fee family member up to today! It was very emotional for me to walk around the few remaining buildings and imagine the family living and working there in the 1800s! The current Fee cousin living there has told me that they "had" dairy cows as the land was not good for sheep! So these Fee people were small dairy farmers......My great great grandfather James Fee continued this same small dairy farming tradition when he came to Hingham, Massachusetts. Cathy wrote: Going back to Marcie's family- I think Rose's name was STRETTON/STRETTAN rather than Stratton. I'm sure you have found this already- there are very few of that name in the parish. Michael,farming in Drumbad,and John,Hugh and Hugh jun. in Drumbibe. The RC records date from 1841. My Comments: Cathy, you are correct, Rose's name was Stretton. I have found the other Strettons but have not "dug" deeply into them as of yet. Cathy wrote: I don't have a townland map of Leitrim,so I can't tell how close the townlands are to each other.I did notice another John Fee farming in Clogher,and a further 9+ acres of land rented to a John Fee in Cromlin and Unshinagh.Whether or not this last was your John or the other one,you can only tell by looking at the revisions and comparing dates etc.(I'm sure you've done this already.) My Comments: I have "gathered" the names of all the Fee families in Oughteragh Parish from the Tithe in 1833 through the Revised Valuations in the 1920s....and 1901 and 1911 Census returns. Many lived within a few miles walking distance of Liscuilfea townland. It is these Fee families I am somewhat concentrating on. Unshinagh and Liscuilfea touch each other, and the John Fee of Unshinagh died the same year as the John Fee of Unshinagh. When I had asked the Leitrim Genealogy Center for both of these death records, I was told the records would be of no further use to me as I already knew where each had lived and that was all that was on the records.... Cathy wrote: Just one other avenue - do you know the name of the landlord in 1833? Grenham mentions estate records for Sir Humphrey Crofton being available in the NLI. He includes townlands in Oughteragh parish "rental,March 1833,with tenant's names in alphabetical order...." Now,the Croftons no longer owned any land in that parish, in Grifiths c 1856,but they might have done so in 1833. Just a thought. My comments: The landlord for Liscuilfea was the Clements family. From Grenham's book, the only Clements land records yet available are for Carrigallen Civil Parish, not Oughteragh Parish. I have transcribed the 1833 Tithe for Oughteragh Parish, and cannot find Crofton among the landlords or proprietors of the land. Thus I guess one of the proprietors listed was overseeing Sir Humphrey Crofton's land? Another fine excuse to return to Dublin and the National Library! As I wrote above to Michael, am searching now in Dernahelty Beg townland but have to figure who exactly was the landlord versus overseer for a landlord. However on somewhat of a positive note, I have learned that on the Tithe the phrase "& Co." after a name meant that there were other families also on the land along with the family of the person named. The person named was the one responsible for paying the tithe. "& Co." appears with James Fee in Liscuilfea, probably for John Fee's family. If my Patrick Fee were there with his wife and all their children too, there would have been way too many people for too little space, even for the Famine times. 16 children and 4 adults with just John and Patrick's families...I do not know how many, if any children James and Rose Fee had. The house has 4 rooms and 2 chimneys. One chimney for the kitche and the other chimney being for 2 back to back fireplaces in 2 rooms. There was no "& Co." for the Dolan land in Dernahelty Beg. Why does Patrick Fee not appear on the Tithe? He refused to pay? His land was not assessed for some reason? Nancy wrote: Have you ascertained that there are no surviving parish records for Ballinamore Parish for 1853? I have read all the surviving 19th century entries for that parish and do not recall that deaths were missing as late as 1853, but my memory could be faulty. There are of course normal gaps in parish records from 1847 to 1851 or 1852 because of the Famine--and sometimes the death of the priest from typhus or cholera, not to mention starvation--but rarely much later than that in parishes for which records have been photographed. My Comments: The Catholic Parish records for Oughteragh Parish's baptisms and marriages begin in 1841. The Leitrim Genealogy Center wrote me that there were very few death records prior to the civil registration. They had nothing on "my" Patrick. Nancy wrote: Since you mention that your Fee information came from the Ballinamore "area," which could be defined to lie in the Diocese of either Ardagh and Killmore, do you know which is applicable? The LDS films include ony the Diocese of Ardagh. However, if you are going to Dublin, or you have someone there who can do a look-up for you, try the National Library; they have more extensive transcriptions. My Comments: Oughteragh Parish is in the Kilmore Diocese and according to the Leitrim Genealogy Center again, the Diocese gave them all the parish records.....But I will check on the National Library for other Oughteragh Parish records. Nancy wrote: Another thing you could try is this. If your ancestor had a lease on tithable land in the 1830's, and he would have to have had one to appear on the tithe applotments, check to see who the landowner was. Then check the holdings of the National Archives to see whether the applicable estate records have survived. As an additional possibility, later estate records, if available, would show whether someone of the surname Fee got his lease upon his death. If so, you might have another line to explore. My Comments: As I wrote under Michael's and Cathy's comments on Deeds/Memorials and Estate records, I have searched some records with no luck so far. However, I think this is probably the only route I have left. And from what I have gathered about estate papers, some have yet to be made public by the landowner's descendents. Nancy wrote: It is not surprising that your ancestor remained in Ireland. He was the tenant in chief--i.e., his appears on the tithe applotments--and his land was cultivatable, so he was much more able to weather the Famine when it came and probably reluctant to leave a reasonably favorable economic situation for the uncertainties of emigration. (Pasture and bog, the other two possibilities, were not subject to the tithe.) The fact that his children left within the time frame of 1848-51 also testifies to somewhat better than average economic status. Most of the landless and the conacre renters had no choice but to leave during Black '47; it was predominantly the so-called strong farmers who left after that. (They had the means to survive the first truly terrible year of the Famine.) My Comments: Some clarification for you Nancy. The James Fee on the Tithe in 1833 was possibly my ggggrandfather's brother. "My" Patrick Fee is not on the Tithe... As I wrote above, I know he was there then so was he not on the Tithe because he refused to pay or his land was not assessed? His son my gggrandfather did start a dairy farm in Massachusetts. Would pasture land not be assessed because it was no cultivated? Patrick's children left Ireland one by one and all ended up in Hingham, Massachusetts! I have always thought the first one saved money up to pay for the next, then those 2 saved up for the next, and so on. All survived the ocean voyage and knew exactly where to go (Hingham) after landing in Boston! Sounds like a pretty well laid out plan...... I think this is about all anyone can read. I look forward to any and all comments and suggestions. Thank you Michael, Cathy and Nancy. Marcie

Donna, Griffiths Valuation was done in Galway in 1855. Depending on William Broderick's age when he arrived in the US in 1844, his father might be included in Griffiths if he was still alive and still in Galway when it was done. You'd need to find out what William's father's name was. Eilis O'Hara --- twkinney@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks to all who responded with helpful > suggestions! We had a basic search done through > East and West Galway, with no conclusive results, I > have continued to look in US records, but > information on these families is limited. Seems > like every where they lived, records were destroyed > by fire or flood! From the information we have > found, William Broderick arrived in US abt. 1844 > (still looking for him on the shipping lists). We > found Bridget (Wall) Broderick arriving in 1847, > with daughters Mary and Margaret. Would searching > Griffiths help since they left Ireland in the > 1840's? > Thanks again for your time, > Donna Kinney > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > Re: Brodericks/Wall/Coyne/Moran > > > > You seem to have so much information that it's > surprising you don't have a > > more precise location in Galway. > > If you haven't already done so,you should conduct > a search in Griffiths . > > You are looking for those names to occur in close > proximity,so you need > > townland maps to work from,as well as a general > Galway civil parish map. > > > > > > The easiest way is to log on to _www.otherdays_ > (http://www.otherdays) .com > > and pay for a 72 hour search for about 8 > euro/dollars. Best bargain around! > > Run all four SURNAMES through a Galway search. > > Don't bother too much with first names,as you > don't know which one would be > > listed as head of household. > > > > Print off the list of locations for each > surname.Then you can start to cross > > check. > > Most couples married within a 3 mile radius.This > would frequently cross a > > parish boundary,which is why a map is so > important. > > You have 4 known surnames,which should narrow > things considerably. > > > > For example- I took the first > parish,Abbeygormacan,and found 3 of the 4 > > names there. > > Do this with each parish. > > Hopefully ,at least one parish will have all 4 > names within it.They don't > > necessarily have to be in the same townland at > this point. > > > > If you don't find a parish with all 4 names, then > go back to the ones with 3 > > matches,and check if the fourth name occurs in a > neighbouring parish. > > > > At the end of the exercise,you should have a list > of the most likely > > parishes. > > > > Parish records in Galway are poor,so don't expect > to find the > > births/marriages in the parish > records.However,once you have a likely > > location,you have > > something to base your further searches on. > > Cathy > > > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > > Have you traveled or are you planning to travel to > Ireland??? > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Eire_Travel/ > > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Join an Ireland list that discusses Irish genealogy, > history, and culture. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

In a message dated 8/30/04 6:01:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, IRL-GALWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: geoghegan Hi Jo, http://www.clarelibrary.ie/search.html Go this site, search all categories for 'biographical notices', and you will get the following index (after selecting 'G' surnames and scrolling to your name of interest. This is an index on-line at the Clare County Library of the Clare Champion Newspaper, (1935-1985). GeoghanBridget, MrsClounty, Mountshannon15 Jul 1967Obit GeoghanMissKilkeedy, Tubber03 Feb 1984Death GeogheganAnnClounty, Mountshannon17 Jun 1983Obit GeogheganAnnie MissDrumharsna08 May 1954Marriage GeogheganBridget, MissBallymalone - Tuamgraney04 Sep 1981Obit GeogheganMartinBallybeg06 Jul 1968Death You can also search again for the Surname, and you will get 18 hits, which include 1901 census, Griffith's Valuation, Biographical Notices, O'Neill's Burren Painting Centre, Projects and Commissions, Books of Survey and Distribution 1636-1701, etc. Hope that helps, Jim McNamara