I have a question. Is the Galway Voters List on Line, or is it in Dublin at the Archives. Thanks for the response. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Burke" <bburke@indigo.ie> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: [GALWAY] Fw: Voters Lists V05 #23 > Sorry, I omitted the L first time round! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brendan Burke > To: IRL-GALWAY-@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: Voters Lists V05 #23 > > > Hi Bobbie, > Up to 1829 tenant farmers who occupied land with a rateable valuation of > at least forty shillings (2 pounds) could also vote. They were known as > forty shilling freeholders. > The level was raised to £10 in 1829 in a political ploy to soothe the rage > in certain English circles at the granting of Catholic Emancipation. > Brendan Burke > Dublin. > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Galway, City of Tribes: http://www.irishholidays.com/ggtest.shtml > Ireland GenWeb Co. Galway site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal/Galway.html > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hello, List: Has anyone learned what has happened with Otherdays? Will it become accessible?? Jude

There are many WOODS families in the Mountshannon area of Co. Clare. This area borders Co. Galway. My grandfather's passenger record to US shows he was on his way to visit his cousin (Mary Woods) in South Lyons, Oakland County, Michigan (2 May 1907, SS Baltic, landing in New York) Best regards, Jim McNamara In a message dated 2/10/05 6:01:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, IRL-GALWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:47:49 -0800 From: MrJackWood@webtv.net (Jack Wood) To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <28988-420AAF35-93@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Wood Family Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I am looking for Wood family members in Galway. My great-grandfather, Francis Wood, was born there about 1814 and emigrated to Quebec, Canada around 1832. He had at least one older brother, and his father reportedly owned or rented land in Galway. I've been unable to locate any Wood names in Galway and any help would be deeply appreciated.

Do you have any Woods by the name of Charles and Edward. They were brothers, married to two Mitchell sisters. Probably born around 1850 to 1860. They may have been Canadian with an Irish background. Edward and his wife Mary had no children and may have lived in Chicago for a time. Charles and Sarah lived in Toronto. Peter Mitchell (Searching for Mitchell's & D'Arcy's around Clifden, Derrigimlagh, Ballyconnelly or Tuam in Galway County or anyplace in Monaghan County) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Wood" <MrJackWood@webtv.net> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: [GALWAY] Wood Family > I am looking for Wood family members in Galway. My great-grandfather, > Francis Wood, was born there about 1814 and emigrated to Quebec, Canada > around 1832. He had at least one older brother, and his father > reportedly owned or rented land in Galway. I've been unable to locate > any Wood names in Galway and any help would be deeply appreciated. > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Galway, City of Tribes: http://www.irishholidays.com/ggtest.shtml > Ireland GenWeb Co. Galway site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal/Galway.html > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I am looking for Wood family members in Galway. My great-grandfather, Francis Wood, was born there about 1814 and emigrated to Quebec, Canada around 1832. He had at least one older brother, and his father reportedly owned or rented land in Galway. I've been unable to locate any Wood names in Galway and any help would be deeply appreciated.

Dear Wendy I've had a good look at the available birth records,and I don't think it is going to be easy. I an assuming your gt grandfather John Fahy married in the US. Who did he marry? You should be able to find his marriage certificate,which hopefully will give his father's name. If he was born c 1870, he married c 1900? Round about 1904, the RC church in the US required the parish of baptism be notified before marriage. These details were sometimes kept by the church in the marriage register,both in Ireland and in the US. Did your grandmother have any siblings?Names? What about the 1880 census? Where were they living? If you can't find the info.you need in the US,it will be 10 times harder searching Irish records. Was there anything in his obit./headstone/mass card to help? Naturalisation? Shipping list? I have been unable to find any Joseph Fahy married to a Mary anything,let alone O'Connell. Nor any Patrick Fahy and Mary (O)Connell The best options were: Pat Fahy/mary Campbell, Portumna. John b.26 feb1871,also Pat,Rose,Michael. Pat Fahy/Mary Connor ,Oughterard. Mary 1866 Pat Fahy/Margaret O'Donnell, Gort+ Ardrahan. john b.2 april 1870,James.pat Thady Fahy/ Mary Connell, Headford.Honor,Sarah. I did not search specifically for a John,as many kids were never registered,but at least one of his siblings might be. I was just looking for couples having kids around that time. I'm sure you realise,if there is just one fact incorrect,it widens the search even further. O'Connell for O'Donnell is an easy mistake.Marg. looks like Mary when handwritten. If his father was not Pat or Joseph,then there are even more options. If you have an LDS nearby, I would recommend using the IGI on disc (NOT the internet) to print out all the likely Fahy births. It's much more easy to use than the IGI online,as you can move much more quickly through the records using the up/down keys and mark/print the relevant entries.There might be quite a few,but at least you will have a list of all the Fahy families haveing kids in galway at that time.Also check for a few additions in Vital records 2. Cathy

Would anyone know if those allowed to vote in the 1800s were only those who owned property? I see in the LDS catalog a few voter's registrations lists for places where my ancestors lived, but they owned no property. Could they vote? Cheers! Bobbie Hall Chicago

Thanks to each of you who have replied with information and additional questions regarding my quest for my great-grandfather, John Patrick Joseph Fahey. I was hesitant to share the whole story in fear of boring everyone to tears, but since so many of you have asked for additional information in an attempt to assist me, I figured I would just go ahead and share all the details as I know them, which are very few. All information I have comes either verbally from accounts from my grandmother, or from 2 documents: 1. His death certificate and 2. His Petition for Naturalization. I have located him in the Indiana 1910, 20 and 30 census records but was unable to obtain any new information from them since the answers he gave the census taker were flat out lies. More to come on this. I cannot find him listed anywhere in the 1900 census, although I believe he may have been living at that time in Kentucky. He met my great-grandmother in the western coal region of Kentucky in the late 1890�s and they were married in Indiana in 1902. My great grandmother never met any of John�s family, and apparently knew very little about them. (or at least she never told her children about what she knew). John had only shared with his family that he was born in Galway (the children could only remember the Gall part of it..they used to always call it Gaul County), that he immigrated to the US as a young boy, that his mother�s maiden name (they thought) was O�Connell and that he grew up in Ohio. Now, let me preface this by saying that John was well known to be a great fibber and teller of tall tales and that there is very little that he has shared that can be 100% believable. My grandmother does not know the first names of either of his parents, or any of his siblings. His death certificate lists the names of Mary Kathleen O�Connell as a mother and Joseph Fahey as a father. However, this information was all provided by my grandmother�s oldest brother as John was preceded in death by his wife. So, therefore, the brother could only provide what he knew told second hand from his mother and father. Although I think there might be some reliability to the information, I don�t believe it to be 100% accurate. John�s full name was John Patrick Joseph Fahey, so I think it is reasonable to believe his father�s name was either Patrick or Joseph. My grandmother was named Kathleen, and her sister named Mary, so that could be on track with the mother�s name as well. But, what leads me to believe the information on the death certificate to be suspect to reliability is that birthplace is listed as �Gaul County, Ireland� and the birth date is listed as March 25, 1874 (He died in 1954 at the age of 84, so obviously, that date provided is mathematically incorrect). John filed his petition for citizenship in 1939. Prior to this in every U.S. census he had told the census taker his birthplace was either Ohio or Indiana. Eventually things started to catch up with him regarding his lack of official citizenship and he filed the proper papers. Before I go any further, let me say that this paperwork is absolutely full of errors and typos. There is more incorrect than correct, including the birth dates of most all his children, so once again I take this information not as the gospel. It is stated that he was born in �St. Reamsport, Ireland� March 25, 1870 and that he emigrated from Queensport, Ireland through Philadelphia, PA in May 1873 on the vessel �unknown�. I have found only one possible match in the 1880 census and that is a Patrick and Mary Fahey living in Missouri with a son, John, born 1870 in Ireland. The next sibling was born in 1874 in Missouri, so that fits with the family timeline. However, there has never been any mention of Missouri in the family lore. Ohio has been the place that I was always told his family was from. Now, I guess they could have gone from MO to OH, but I cannot find that Patrick and Mary in later Ohio census records. Also with Patrick and Mary being the two most common Irish Fahey names, it is so hard to distinguish one from the other. Many of you have asked his religious background. He observed no religion that my grandmother can remember, although she does say that she believes that he was raised Catholic. I have such very little solid information to go on that I have just had no luck at all. I pursue this for a month or two, get frustrated, and then give it up again for a while. Hence why I have considered hiring a professional researcher. Thank you all again so much for your time in reading my dilemma! I appreciate all your assistance. Let me know if any of this additional information rings any bells with any of you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

Hello, Jane: Your post re Abbeyábhal makes me want to ask if you think "Athornrage" might have been a phonetic spelling of Athenry spoken by a native Irish speaker. (I can't find anything on an Ireland map remotely close to "Athornrage," and this family lived near Athenry.) If he were saying Átha An Ri, I can see how the first two words might sound like "Athorn," but I'm not sure how "rage" comes from Ri. Thanks, Jude > As she was born in 1815, Irish would have been her first language. > > How about > > Not exactly the same - but then her Irish would have been much stronger than > today's Irish - words would not have been pronounced the same.

After a 5 year search for the family of my great-grandfather I still have found no information as to his extended family and ancestors. Please find the few details that I have listed in this message. If anyone has any ideas of where I might go from here, or have access to any records, I would so greatly appreciate your assistance. My grandmother, daughter of my great-grandfather and the only surviving sibling, turned 90 this week and it was my goal to have this information about her father's family to her in time for her birthday and I feel so horrible that I was not able to find the information. Here is what little information I know: Name: John Patrick Joseph Fahey Birth: March 25, 1870 Galway Mother Name: Mary Kathleen O'Connell (Fahey) Father Name: Patrick or Joseph Fahey Immigration to the United States in the early to mid 1870's. My great grandfather had a falling out with his family and never saw them or spoke to the during the entire life of my grandmother so my information is very limited beyond what I have provided. Any and all assistance would be so greatly appreciated. I have contemplated hiring a professional researcher in Ireland to assist, so any hints on recommendations for that would also be appreciated. Thank you, Wendy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, August 2, 1824 CORPORATE OFFICERS. Yesterday being the first of August, the following Gentlemen were nominated to fill the Corporate Offices for the ensuing year: - James Daly, Esq., Mayor. James H. Burke, Esq., Deputy Mayor. James O'Hara jun, Esq, Recorder Nicholas Browne, and _____ Wheatley, Esqrs., Sheriffs. James Daly, Esq, Warden. John O'Shaughnessy, Esq., Town Clerk. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

The Times London, Middlesex, England July 11, 1870 IRELAND (From Our Own Correspondent) Dublin, July 2. In a cause heard before Justice Keogh, in the Common Pleas, Mr. Dudley Persse, of Galway, sued Mr. Malcolmson, of Carlow, for 760l., rent alleged to be due for certain lands of which the defendant was a tenant at a rent of 2l. 5s. per acre. By the terms of the agreement between the parties the defendant was allowed 17 acres of meadow land each year for stock, but the hay was to be consumed upon it and not removed under a penalty of 3l. a ton. He was not to break or till any of the lands then in grass under a penalty of 20l. an acre, and was to keep the works and fences in good repair, while the plaintiff reserved to himself all royalties, the rights of shooting, and of cutting timber, and to have a house on the lands for his herd. The defendant did not dispute the agreement as to the acreage rent, but contended that it was not to include plantation, or land shadowed by plantation, and he lodged 170l. in court as sufficient to meet the just claim of the plaintiff. An unsuccessful attempt was made to effect an arrangement of the case, and the defendant expressed his willingness to compromise it, but on the part of the plaintiff it was declined. It was stated that the lands were infested with rabbits, that a considerable portion was rendered useless by plantations, and that in the cutting down of trees by the servants of the plaintiff breaches were made through which the defendant's cattle trespassed upon the plaintiff's land and that the defendant was then summoned and fined at the suit of the plaintiff. It also appeared that a writ was served on the 4th of May for rent due on the 1st. This proceeding Mr. Justice Keogh characterized as sharp practice. It was alleged by the defendant that a regular survey of the lands had been made and the rent fixed before the letting, and the Judge left it to the jury to say whether this was so. The jury found for the defendant, with 6d. costs. Execution was respited, Mr. Serjeant Armstrong relying upon the terms of the agreement as giving the plaintiff a legal right. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

> Margaret, There is an Abbeyfield in Galway, Barony of Kilconnell, Parish of Kilconnell, Poor Law Union of Ballinasloe. Also Abbeygormacan and Abbeygrey. Betsy Murphy > Subject: Help with townland > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 08:19:35 -0500 > From: Margaret LaCombe <mlacombe@megalink.net> > To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > > Mary Coghlan, daughter of James, gives her place of birth as what looks like > "Abigail" on her marriage certificate. She was born about 1815. She was > probably born in East Galway, and the townland must be Abbey-something. I > checked the townland website but could not find anything ending in 'gale' > 'gail' or 'gate.' > > The writing on the certificate is pretty good, so I think this is an obscure > local placename. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what Abigail can > be? > > Thank you, > > Margaret LaCombe > >

As she was born in 1815, Irish would have been her first language. How about Abbeyábhal Not exactly the same - but then her Irish would have been much stronger than today's Irish - words would not have been pronounced the same. First of all - she'd have been brought up speaking Irish - and second, the placenames as they are on the Townland Atlas are only those that were there in 1851 - it''s based on the 1851 census - and they're the English names - not the Irish names and placenames in Irish are so much different than in English - much more descriptive generally. Couple of Galway examples for you Abbey - Mainistir Chinéil Féichín Abbeygrey - Mainistir na mBráthar Liath Abbeygormacan - Mainistir Uí Ghormacáin Abbeyville E.D. - Rann na Mainistreach Abbey Island - Oílean na Mainistreach Abbeydorney - Mainistir Ó dTorna So, take it that she was an Irish speaker - and then take a look at the various places with 'Abbey' in them as listed in the townlands atlas. You've got Abbey ; Abbeyfield ; Abbeygormacan ; Abbeygrey : Abbeyland Great ; Abbeyland Little ; Abbeyland North ; Abbeyland South ; Abbeypark ; Abbeytown . and then try and fit in the Irish word for the second part of any placename. The people didn't necessarily call these places by these names and they may have mixed up the English word and the Irish word that they'd have used to describe/name the place. So - Abbey - they may have shortened the Chinéil and tagged that on to the end of the English name. Abbeygrey may have been Abbeyliath. Abbeyville might be your place, but I'd be more inclined to go for Abbeyland Great. ábhal or áibhle is great, immense.......... Anyway - just a suggestion. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret LaCombe" <mlacombe@megalink.net> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: [GALWAY] Help with townland > Hello, > > > Mary Coghlan, daughter of James, gives her place of birth as what looks > like > "Abigail"

Hello, Mary Coghlan, daughter of James, gives her place of birth as what looks like "Abigail" on her marriage certificate. She was born about 1815. She was probably born in East Galway, and the townland must be Abbey-something. I checked the townland website but could not find anything ending in 'gale' 'gail' or 'gate.' The writing on the certificate is pretty good, so I think this is an obscure local placename. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what Abigail can be? Thank you, Margaret LaCombe

Thanks Cathy........ I thought it was just me - it's one site that I can never remember exactly who I was when I subbed to it - but I'd gone through all the combinations that I can think of re password and subscriber name. It's the one site that is really good re Irish genealogy - there's so much that can be accessed without even being a member.............. and - it's a truly Irish site - coming out of Bray if remember rightly I'd hate to see it disappear when there are sites that are not located in Ireland seemingly succeeding. We need the likes of Otherdays to do well, particuarly in order to show whatever powers that be that there is a need for Irish Genealogy web sites/ access to Irish records Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: CathOneill@aol.com To: sniliaghin@iol.ie ; IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Otherdays........... Jane No, that doesn't work. I know my username and password,but it makes no difference. Anyway, parts of the website were accessible without having to pay anything,and you need to be able to access the site to join! I think we might just have to wait a little longer..... Cathy

They may be back - when you use the Home page URL - you immediately get a user and password log in box. Can any of you who are subbed to the site get in by filling in what you have to on the box? Does anyone have an address to write to when the boxes don't work? Methinks I've forgotten my username and/or password. Jane

Thanks to Phyllis Edwards for transcribing the Ballynakill (Ballymoe Barony) Civil Parish Griffith's Valuation, it is online on the Galway section of my website. Also added to the site this month are the Tithe Applotments for the Boyounagh Civil Parish (1831) that I transcribed. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

I know nothing about this site and am eager to learn what it can do. While we're waiting for it to come back on line, could someone please clue me in? When I tried to access it, I got a prompt for user name and password. Is this a subscription?

Geralyn, Thanks for that very informative reply. I copied this from the LDS catalogue: "The "green forms" were used as an internal office record of the search made in the census. Applicants provided information by letter, and where there were sufficiant details a search was carried out. When the family was found and the applicant identified as a child, a certified copy of the return was issued. Miscellaneous search forms contain little information other that the applicant's name and address. These forms were created when the applicant applied for an 1841-1851 census search, but the application was lacking information necessary for a search, or the applicant was born after 1851 census. " As I said previously,Masterson's book lists households she found in the records. I would imagine she included any she found, whether or not they related to the applicant in question. But you are right - the applicant would have had to supply some corroborating information, which she could not have included as it was not source information. So there may well be something of interest to uncover. If you are thinking of getting one of the films just to see, 2214518 contains all Dublin and Fermanagh,the Galway index + a bit of Galway. 2214542 just has Galway 2214543 has the rest of Galway + part of Kerry So I'd opt for the middle one! Regards cathy