Jane and Pete--I have in the last several years been zeroing in on Glennamaddy, Co. Galway as possible location of Comer relations of my great grandfather's. Have even corresponded with the editor of the town's newpaper. An internet search a few days ago led me to a UK & Ireland Business Directory and there was an entry for a public house and bar named Comer Glenview Lounge "The Square, Glenamaddy, Glenamaddy. Co. Roscommon" . That made me wonder if there was a Glenamaddy in Roscommon or does the reference to Roscommon mean the phone number or mail are somehow related to Roscommon? I wanted to just phone the place and chat with them, but will wait for your opinion. Patricia in St. Louis

I don't know if look ups are being given for the Voters Lists, but my Clarke ancestors are from Greenville, County Galway and I wonder if he appears on the list: Patrick "Podgeen Dick" Clarke (son of Richard Clarke) married to Sabina Clarke (daughter of John Clarke and Mary Mannion). Sabina was born 1830 and died in 1912. They had the same last names but not related. They never left Ireland. They had 10 children. Mary Jo

Phil, What exactly is the information you have - there's a few places thqat the word Glennamaddy fit's in to. Jane filidh@carolina.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "phil" <patvon@gtw.net> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: [GALWAY] glennamaddy > Is there more than one town named Glennamaddy? I have been researching > the one I thought was in Galway, but in a businnes directory there is a > Glennamaddy listing with Roscommon next to it. > Thanks to all. > Patricia in St. Louis > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > East Galway Family History Society: > http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm > County Galway Library: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/ > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Patricia at patvon@gtw.net writes: << Is there more than one town named Glennamaddy? >> Patricia, I don't believe so - just the town and townland in Co. Galway. There are several townlands starting with Glenna, even a Glennamaddoo up in the mountains out Mallaranny-way in Co. Mayo......... but just one Glennamaddy town/townland (now watch - someone will find a dozen of them somewhere <gr>.). It appears that the Glennamaddy PLU extended over into parts of Ballynakill and Drumatemple civil parishes in Co. Roscommon - but that's the only mention I find of a connection between Glennamaddy and Roscommon. I'm waiting to see Jane's further response...... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Is there more than one town named Glennamaddy? I have been researching the one I thought was in Galway, but in a businnes directory there is a Glennamaddy listing with Roscommon next to it. Thanks to all. Patricia in St. Louis

Hi Brendan, Was the fee (£2 increased to £10) charged to anyone wishing to be included on the Voters Register? That was awfully expensive for those days. Surely it would have excluded many folk from registering. I wonder if that was why it was increased five-fold! Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Burke" <bburke@indigo.ie> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [GALWAY] V05 #23 Voters Lists

Heads of Households. the numbers are for the films at the National Archives in Dublin and these are all in the Templetogher District Electoral Division - that's the 88 part of the ref number, the other number is for the townland in that district. I have no other information on any of these people, the spellings are all as they were on the enumerator sheets - some of these can be difficult to read and if I am not sure of a name then I have a question mark. Jane Kilmacrickare - spelled this way in the 1885 GRO townland publication, and on the census form. Spelled as Kilmacrickard in the 1851 townlands directory. DED film ref 88/7 National Archives Connelly Michael Connolly John Connolly Thomas Curly Michael Fleming Thomas Griffen Thomas Joyce Thomas Loobey Michael McDermott Hubert Quinn Patrick Sweeney Thomas Tubberoe, East - looks like Labberoe, East on the enumerators sheet - DED film ref 88/11 ?Donlan Patrick Keane Edward Keane Michael Kelly Michael Kelly Martin McDonagh John Meehan Patrick Morris Patrick Mulvihill Bridget Quinn James Raftery Ellen Tubberoe, West - 88/12 Cunniff Michael Cunniff Luke Cunniff Michael Cunniff Patrick Cunniff John Curly Patrick Donlan John Gready James King Michael Mulvihill Patrick Quigley James Ryan Laurence Scanlon Mary Lisnageeragh - 88/8 Higgins Margaret Lohan Patrick Mockler John Outagh - 88/9 ?Dolan John ?Tanney or Tannery James Concannon Mary Costello Michael Curley Patrick Kean John Keaveny William Kelly Honoria Kelly James Kelly Mary Kelly Michael Mulloney James Mulloney Thomas Ward Michael Rosdaul - 88/10 Clarke Bridget Clarke Thomas Cunningham Bernard Cunningham Patrick Griffen Owen Lally James Mahon Margaret Mahon Catherine McDonnell Michael Quinn Patrick Reilly Michael Reilly John

Geralyn, that's a great site for looking up Census information. Thanks for sharing it. Terry in Mich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geralyn W. Barry<mailto:gbarry@proaxis.com> To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Question re an item on 1870 US Census . For more about column 20, see http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1870.html<http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1870.html> 1870 Census: Instructions to Assistant Marshals - see the part called Constitutional Relations. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon At 12:30 PM 2/19/05, JFW wrote: >

To answer Judy Christopher about Voter lists, When I was at the National Archives in Dublin several years ago, I found a "Copy of the Register so far as relates to the Barony of Moycullen Of Persons entitled to vote at any Election of a Member or Members of Parliament for the County of Galway, between the 30th day of November, 1856 and First day of December, 1857". I found it by accident as I had requested some estate records and the Register was in a big box of papers that were brought out. I looked at all the papers that were in the box and found it.. I don't know if it was listed in any index at the Archives such that it could be easily found. I was very interested in this rergister as it contained the names of two my great great grandfathers as voters. I didn't know that ordinary farmers could vote at that time. There are 184 persons on this list but there are no Mitchells. Patricia Concannon

It sounds like Taidgh--an Irish name often interpreted as "Tim." It's as much a way of saying "an Irishman" as is the name Paddy--ask any resident of Derry or Belfast. Cheers, Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Wood" <twigs3@harbornet.com> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: [GALWAY] ? re first name > Does the name Tague ring any bells with any one? Is it a nickname or > perhaps the Irish equivalent for ???? > > I have a Tague Dougherty as an adult in Brooklyn, NY ca 1890, and am trying > to fit him into the family puzzle. > > Thanks very much. > > **** All outgoing mail scanned by Norton Anti-virus **** > > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Carol: My grandfather Patrick Martin McGrath was born in Clifden in 1866 and married a Molly Lynch. I thought the John you are looking for could be the older brother of Molly. Since the parents names are John and Margaret it would make sense that Molly and John were named after them. Molly would be a possible nickname for Margaret. Please let me know what you think of this "theory". Hope to hear from you soon. Kathy

Does the name Tague ring any bells with any one? Is it a nickname or perhaps the Irish equivalent for ???? I have a Tague Dougherty as an adult in Brooklyn, NY ca 1890, and am trying to fit him into the family puzzle. Thanks very much. **** All outgoing mail scanned by Norton Anti-virus ****

Where were they living? I have seen column 20 checked by some census takers in 1870 for nearly every "citizen" of foreign birth. Look to see if that was the case with the people you were looking at - were there many with that column checked in that census-taker's district? I think in cases like that, either the census taker was confused about the interpretation of the question or was perhaps using it for some tally of his own purpose. For more about column 20, see http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1870.html 1870 Census: Instructions to Assistant Marshals - see the part called Constitutional Relations. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon At 12:30 PM 2/19/05, JFW wrote: >Hello, Listers: >I have a question re the last item on the 1870 US Census form. The >information sought is whether there are "Male Citizens of US of 21 years of >age and upwards where rights to vote is [sic] denied on other grounds than >rebellion or other crime." I have several ancestors for whom this box is >checked, and I am not sure just what those "other grounds" would be. I >thought perhaps it had to with whether the individuals could read and/or >write; but that doesn't seem to be the case. > >Any thoughts on this?? I know some of my Galway emigrants were guilty of >"rebellion," but that was in Ireland, not the US. > >Cheers, >Jude

FYI - not related! Davenport Leader Davenport, Scott, Iowa June 13, 1895 CLARK. James Clark died at Mercy hospital at 1:30 yesterday. Deceased was a carpenter and has lived here since 1852. He was born in County Galway 80 years ago. On coming to America he landed in Philadelphia. Deceased has two daughters living in Minneapolis. The funeral was held at 8 o'clock this morning from St. Mary's church. Interment at St. Mary's cemetery. Cathy Joynt Labath Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm Scott County, Iowa USGenWeb Project http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/index.htm Iowa Old Press http://www.IowaOldPress.com/

Hello, Listers: I have a question re the last item on the 1870 US Census form. The information sought is whether there are "Male Citizens of US of 21 years of age and upwards where rights to vote is [sic] denied on other grounds than rebellion or other crime." I have several ancestors for whom this box is checked, and I am not sure just what those "other grounds" would be. I thought perhaps it had to with whether the individuals could read and/or write; but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any thoughts on this?? I know some of my Galway emigrants were guilty of "rebellion," but that was in Ireland, not the US. Cheers, Jude

Thank you Brendan, It was a shot in the dark as I have been trying to find the home of my Mitchell Family in County Galway. No luck yet. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Burke" <bburke@indigo.ie> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:23 AM Subject: [GALWAY] V05 #23 Voters Lists > Judy Christopher asked whether the Galway Voters lists are on-line or in > National Archives in Dublin. > Neither, I'm afraid Judy. I think they may have been destroyed in the Four > Courts fire in 1922. When trawling for other information I have seen > newspaper lists of applications for inclusion on the register. The Clare > Journal of May and June 1829 had long lists because of the change from £2 > to £10; I'd imagine the Galway papers had similar lists. > Brendan Burke > Dublin. > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > New!! Irish-American Mailing List, > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-AMERICAN.html > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Judy Christopher asked whether the Galway Voters lists are on-line or in National Archives in Dublin. Neither, I'm afraid Judy. I think they may have been destroyed in the Four Courts fire in 1922. When trawling for other information I have seen newspaper lists of applications for inclusion on the register. The Clare Journal of May and June 1829 had long lists because of the change from £2 to £10; I'd imagine the Galway papers had similar lists. Brendan Burke Dublin.

Dear Mary Jo Do you have any Toole/O'Toole links from Moylough? My great great great grandmother O'Toole's sister, Ellen, from the Moylough/Abbeyknockmoy area, married a Thomas Kelly. Catherine On 18/02/2005, at 10:08 PM, <mjhuns@earthlink.net> wrote: > I have a couple Richard Clarkes but no Roderick's. > > I have a John KILLIAN who married a Margaret KELLY in Moylough, Co. > Galway, > Ireland before 1945. They had a child, Thomas KILLIAN. They may have > had > more. My Great Grandfather published the history 1945-1946 > thereabouts. > > This is in response to a request but my reply bounced back so I am > sending through the group. > > Mary Jo > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > East Galway Family History Society: > http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm > County Galway Library: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/ > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Over the next week or so I will be looking at some sections of the County Galway census - specific areas. If there are people on these two lists who do know that their ancestors came from any of the townlands or places that I am about to list, then I will take the basic details for you. I will not be able to do this if you just give me a surname with no other information unless it is a rare surname - I need a first name, I need a townland, or at the very least a specific area - please and thanks. I will be looking at the following places: Ballinasloe Urban - only those sections listed as being Each DED number represents a different roll of film in the National Archives in Dublin, unless the numbers are very close together - and even when close together they may still be on different films. It can take me a few hours to work my way through a film, even when I am onlyu looking for one surname. Please understand that my requisite that you be specific lies in how long I know I have to do any one thing, and how long it can take to do extra - but most of all, if one is looking to any film and has a number of surnames to look out for, then it is very easy to become confused and miss out on half of what is there - or, for me, personally that is the case. I need surnames and I need an area - preferably a townland. That way I can have a list for myself to work with and can cross things off accordingly Ballinsloe Urban : DED 74 and 53 - I have already worked 87 and 88 and will be posting Heads of Households to both these lists - most like. Bullaun : DED 57 Grange - there are a number of them in Galway - DED's 16, 17 ; 44 ; 56 ; 105 and 108 Ballymacward : DED 73 Rahally : DED 98 I do not know, nor can I offer any idea as to the various LDS film numbers for these DED's that I am listing. I believe that Cathy O'Neill made a post in the past relating to finding film numbers for LDS films on the family history org site. If so, you should be able to find that by searching the IRL-GALWAY-L archives. (as an extra - I had opened my Galway mail folder as I wrote this and the mail that it opened on was Cathy's post re finding places in the 1901 census - she made that post on September 16th, 2004) Most people do not like when lists get clogged up with look up offers and replies, so please, if you do have an interest in any of thse places reply to me off list sniliaghin@iol.ie Make sure that Galway 1901 is your subject line, not your surname. Once again, please keep this to specfic areas that your know your ancestors came from, I'll be posting surname lists when I am finished. All I need to know is the townland, and who you think the Head of Household was. If you don't know that name, then I can work with the first name of your ancestor, the difference between knowing the Heads name and that name is that I would have to check though individual family sheets for that surname.............and I will only do that if every second family in the townland does not have that surname. The thing is, that regardless of what I find when I search, when I am finished, you will at least have the names of the Heads of Household for yourselves - and then, because the LDS does have these films, you can check out who was in which famiy regardless of the Heads first name. Jane

Spelled as above on the 1901 census returns. Spelled 'Ballyhaugeag', West in the pamphelts published by the General Registrar's Office in Dublin, 1885 - re-published in the Townlands and Poor Law Unions of Ireland, Edited by G.B. Handrahan and I can find nothing close to either spelling in the 1851 townlands directory. I have not checked variations on the word Bally though - so it may be there with the Bally replaced by Ballin - Ballina or Ballinagh - or, even Ballagh. Regardless, the following people were listed as the Heads of Household in the townland of Ballyhaugay West, Kilcroan parish in County Galway in 1901. Seventeen families in all. Druchy Patrick Gormley Patrick Kenny Patrick Hanley Michael Mitchell Martin Mullen Michael Fox Michael Moogan John Burke Edward Mulvihill Bernard Lyons James Keaveny Andrew Fannon Bridget Skiffington Michael Dane Patrick Dean Martin If any person is familiar with this place, with any of these families and knows another spelling for it - be that spelling phonetic or whatever, I'd be interested in knowing this other spelling. Does anyone know the spelling as per the Tithes or the Griffiths? Please and thanks I am not researching any of the above families - and have taken no information other than what I list and the number of the plot/house they lived in as per the enumerators sheet. Patrick Dane's name was spelled Dean on the enumerators sheets - or else, it was Martin Dean was spelled as Dane. Either way, the spelling/name given here is as per the individual family sheet, filled out and signed by the person who lived in the house. The name given on the enumerator's sheet was wrong - for one of them - spelling wise compared to those individual family sheets. Usually though, when two people with such close names live beside one another - you find they are related and the name used to be the same. Jane