Dear List, You've GOTTA see this! "Missing Friends" -- an Irish database -- is now available online. Boston College has posted a database of newspaper advertisements for Irish immigrants that were published in the Boston "Pilot" from October 1831 through October 1921. The advertisements were paid for by persons looking for family and friends who had lost contact. Many of them contain important genealogical details. The website, Information Wanted: A Database of Advertisements for Irish Immigrants Published in the Boston Pilot, can be found at http://infowanted.bc.edu./ Whatever Galway surnames you're researching in whatever country, put them into the search. You get locations that are often right down to the Townland, which may get you a lot closer to an ancestor's hometown than even Griffiths! May you all find someone, Peter.

Rita, Am checking Costellos on Aran Isles, Kilronan, Inishmor, Galway. the islands in the middle of Galway Bay. Barb

Of course I do, David. Curran from Headford (Ballycasey) to Maine. The whole Curran side then migrated to Minnesota. O'Donnell, Kilmartin, Dirrane, Joyce, McDonagh, Costello from the Aran isles. Barb

Hi Patrick Thanks for the response. I was aware of the alternative name Keith

Dear Listers, Excerpts from old Galway newspapers that are posted on this site often refer to clergy merely as ' Rev. So-and So', without stating to which denomination they belong. The same situation applied to bishops. Was there any convention at the time that would have enabled readers to know whether the man was a Catholic priest or a minister of the Church of Ireland or some other denomination? Robert in New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-GALWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-GALWAY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: IRL-GALWAY-D Digest V05 #84

I had better advise that i am not able to do any more lookup on this film as my time was up and the film has been returned to the LDS Center in Sydney. I found it hard to read as such a lot of pages seem to have faded away, guess others who have had these films out know what I mean, also the earlier books for Gort have disappeared making it that much harded to find next generation back. i was able to find the marriage of my Thomas CAHILL and Sarah (now according to the paperwork on the Immigration records her surname was SCAHILL but imagine my surprise to read on the Marriage Index that the spelling was SKEHELL) it must be the same couple as the date is right, 17 March 1955, unfortunately the records do not show parents names only witnesses. Does anyone know if there are any records available for CASTLEDALY??? Barbara Robinson BNE QLD AUS on this very fine ANZAC DAY 90th Anniversary

Not sure whether you know this, Keith, but in the past the Rabbitts commonly used their alternative name Coinin (I have a set of cousins in Galway named Rabbitt, hence this knowledge). Pádraig (the Paddy that was) -----Original Message----- From: IRL-GALWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IRL-GALWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Wallwork Sent: 24 April 2005 23:24 To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GALWAY] RABBITT's Hi My name is Keith Wallwork and I live in North Queensland Australia, I have just joined this list hoping to trace my ancestors in Ireland. My maternal grandparents were RABBITT's who lived in Altrincham Cheshire England. John, his wife Catherine HINNEY and their daughter Julia, together with John's brother Michael left Ireland about 1839 to settle in Altrincham. I have no idea where they originated in Ireland although Galway is a good bet because of the number of RABBITT's there. John was born about 1813 and I think he married in 1838. Julia was born in 1839. Of John's parents all I know was that his father was Edward and he died before 1869 Hoping that this will ring some bells. I have checked the archives Keith ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Rita at rfox58@alltel.net writes: << I will be in Tuam this spring and would love to go to the Catholic church she might have worshiped at or find where they might have lived. I'm guessing it was somewhere between Tuam and Kilmaine >> Rita, The R 332 regional road connects Tuam and Kilmaine. There is an RC church in Kilbannon/Kilbenan right along the road, three miles out of Tuam. Another three or four miles further along on the way to Kilmaine, there is a turnoff for Kilconly, about a mile from the main road, where there is another RC church. And, of course, there are churches at both ends of the road. You might want to pick-up Discovery maps 38 and 39 for your trip - they will cover this area nicely. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

In the 1905, Mary Ann Quinn traveled from her home in Kinvara to the US. Her final destination was Jeffersonville, Indiana where she would stay with her aunt, Mrs. Dwyer. Five years later, Margaret Quinn also left Kinvara to stay with her aunt, Mrs. Dwyer in Jeffersonville. Margaret eventually settled in NYC. I have been unable to locate Mary Ann, but have been told that the Quinns had some family in Louisville, KY - not too far from Jeffersonville. Is anyone researching Dwyers or Quinns? Other names related to this family are Murray, Brannelly, Fahy, Flanagan, Gillane, Dawson, Staunton, Grady, Costello, and Lane. Diana Bryan Quinn Virginia Beach, Virginia My Genealogy Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bryanquinn/index.htm

Hi My name is Keith Wallwork and I live in North Queensland Australia, I have just joined this list hoping to trace my ancestors in Ireland. My maternal grandparents were RABBITT's who lived in Altrincham Cheshire England. John, his wife Catherine HINNEY and their daughter Julia, together with John's brother Michael left Ireland about 1839 to settle in Altrincham. I have no idea where they originated in Ireland although Galway is a good bet because of the number of RABBITT's there. John was born about 1813 and I think he married in 1838. Julia was born in 1839. Of John's parents all I know was that his father was Edward and he died before 1869 Hoping that this will ring some bells. I have checked the archives Keith

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, MAY 8, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY TUAM BILLARD CLUB, THE LATE MR. FRANCIS MEAGHER, T.C. At a special meeting of the committee of the above, held on Tuesday, the 4th inst., Mr. John Connelly (Vice President) in the chair ; also present - Messrs. P. Canavan (Treas.) ; M. Nolan, C. G. Blake, D. H. Burke, P. Byrne, F. B. McDonogh, E. Quinn, James Daly, John Murphy, M. J. Mannion (Secretary), the following resolution proposed by Mr. Canavan was unanimously adopted : - "That we, the members of the Tuam Billard Club, have heard with profound regret of the death of the late Mr. Francis Meagher, T.C., who was for many years President of our club, and who by his kindly and courteous manner endeared himself to all the members. That we desire to tender our sincere sympathy to his wife and family in their sad affliction, and that as a mark of our respect to his memory our club be closed until the day after the interment of his remains." ---------- BIRTH KEANE - May 5, 1909, the wife of Mr. Francis Keane, T.C., Merchant, of a daughter. ---------- DIED FLATLEY - May 5, 1909 at his residence, The Square, Kinvara, William Flatley, sen,; deeply regretted by his loving family and large circle of friends. DONNELLAN - On April 28th, 1909, Mary, relict of the late Patrick Donnellan, carpentar and builder, Tuam. Funeral took place on Friday 30th, to the New Cemetery. - R.I.P. American papers please copy. ---------- Athenry Fair held on 5th May was an average sized fair ; demand brisk for all cattle in moderate condition and a good clearance effected. ---------- MARRIAGE MURPHY AND McGOVAN A quiet wedding took place at Tuam R.C. Cathedral on Thursday, 29th ult, Very Rev. T. F. Canon Macken, Adm, officiating, when Mr. Patrick Murphy, Galway Road, Tuam, was joined in wedlock to Katie, youngest daughter of Mr. Thomas McGough, of same road. Mr. Murphy was only recently come back from the United States, where he spent many prosperous years. The happy couple were the recipients of hearty good wishes for their future happiness from their neighbours and numerous friends in town and country. ---------- A CATTLE DRIVE Yesterday, at the Courthouse, Tuam, nine persons, including two women, were brought up in custody before Mr. H. P. Shell, R. M., for driving off Cloonbar farm, part of Mr. Percy B. Bernard's Cloonbar farm, part of Mr. Percy B Bernard's Castlehacket estate, near Tuam, on the 3rd inst., 25 head of cattle, 60 sheep and 2 horses belonging to Thomas Healy, of Cloonsheen, who holds the farm on 11 months' system. The Mr. Bernard, their landlord, promising to let them have the Cloonbar farm on 1st May for distribution amongst them. They all entered bail to be of good behaviour for the next 12 months, viz, Marin Corless, Lawrence Moran, John Moran, Patrick Reid, jun., Michl. Doddy, and James Feenaghty, all of Cloonbar, in £40 each, with two sureties each in £20 each ; Patk. Reid, senr., of Cloonbar, self in £20 with two sureties in £10 each ; and Mary Feenaghty and Bridget Reidy, both of Cloonbar, in £10 each with two sureties each in £5 each. Messrs. John Keane and John Walsh, merchants, High Street, Tuam, became sureties for them all. (Full report in next Herald.) ---------- J. C.GARDINER TESTIMONIAL. The following subscriptions of £1 have been received by the Hon., Treasurer, Mr. W. S. Waithman : - Sir Wm. Mahon, Bart, D.S.O. ; Walter Joyce, Michael Hynes, Major Ruttledge Fair, M. T. Donnellan, James Behan, Sir Acheson MacCuliagh, General Henry, C. B. ; Professor Colohan, M. D. ; Martin Bodkin, R. T. St. George. The Fund is now closed. SCAN24.JPG PITHY PARS. - Personal, Paochial Provincial and Particular The solicitor for the Orangewell prisoners, Dr. Nicholas O'Connell Comyn, was born in 1869, the eldest son of Andrew Nugent Comyn, of Ballinderry. He was educated at Oscott, and is well known among Irish cricketers, especially as a member of the Co. Galway team. His father, Andrew Nugent Comyn, who is a J.P. for counties of Clare and Galway, was born in 1831, the eldest son of Nicholas Comyn, of Ballinderry, Co. Galway, and Ryefield, Co. Roscommon. He married in 1867, Mary, second daughter of John O'Connell, Esq., D.L., and grand daughter of the Liberator. ---------- Sugeon General John Sarsfield Comyn, M.D., M.A., late Army Medical Service, was born in 1837, the second son of Francis Comyn, of Woodstock, in this county, and Kilcorney. He was specially promoted to Brigade Surgeon for service in Egypt in 1882. He is Deputy Surgeon General. He retired lately. He was married to a daughter of General Owen. ---------- Father John Conmee, S. J., the head of the Jesuit order in Ireland, is a Roscommon man, a member of one of the oldest Catholic families, who lost much for their faith. He was born in 1851, educated at Castleknock and Clongower from 1885 to 1891, and Supieror of St. Francis Xavier's, Dublin, from 1898 to 1905. He is one of the most eloquent pulpuit preachers in Ireland. He had lately been in delicate health, but is now almost recovered. ---------- The Most Rev. Dr. O'Dea is the son of the late Michael O'Dea, Esq. of Kilfenora, Co. Clare, and was born in 1850. He was educated at Maynooth when he laboured after ordination on the professional staff, and he was Vice President of Maynooth College from 1883-5 and President from 1885 till his consecration in 1904. ---------- Colonel George Patrick Chevers, late 4th Connaught Rangers, and J. P. for Co. Galway, resident at Portummna, in this county, was born in 1834, son of Patrick Obevers, R.M., by Ellen daughter of George Cashel, of Sallee House, Tipperary. ---------- John J. Clancy, K.C. and M.P., for North Dublin, was born in 1847, at Carragh Lodge, Claregalway, the son of William Clancy, Esq. He was educated at Summerhill College, Athione, and Queen's College, Galway. ---------- John Joseph Cheevers, D.L. and J.P. for Co. Galway, of Killyan, in this county, was lately a captain in the 4th Connaught Rangers, and born in 1866. He was educated at Beaumont College, and married in 1894, to Frederick, daughter of Henry Owen Lewis, D.L., of Enniskeen. ---------- The wonderful success of G.W. Bacon's great Atlas of the World, has induced him to meet the popular requirements by issuing a guinea edition of the same. The edition, termed "The Populare Atlas and Gazette of the World" embraces the whole of the more expensive work, with the omission only of the divisional maps, so that every country is still well represented in the 100 pages of maps and 100 supplementary maps of the chief ports, thus constituting the best guinea atlas extant. ---------- In Boffin Island, purchased by the Congested Districts Board, from Mr. Cyril Allies, J. P., there are a goodly number of tenement houses already built and others in course of construction. Having visited all the building sans doute reflect great credit on the gentleman, Mr. P. B. O'Dea., under surveillance they are being erected. Having interviewed this very affable and courteous official at that portion of the island known as the East End we were able to ascertain without the disclosure of any official secrets the vast amount of good the Board has been doing for the distressed tenantry of this island. The excursionists feel it an imperative duty to tender their sincerest thanks to this unassuming and unpretensious young gentleman for the interview given them. ---------- At Athenry Thomas Murphy, a Galway fish merchant, was returned for trial to the Assizes on a charge of obtaining £80 by false pretences from Francis J. Finnerty, Licensed Trader, Athenry branch of the Ulster Bank after he had first got Finnerty to endorse it for him. The cheque, which was on the National Bank was returned "unpaid," "account closed." It was stated that prisoner had since repaid the amount, £40 in cash, and a promissory note for the remainder, with which Finnerty expressed himself satisfied. The accused was admitted to bail. ---------- In Connamara the weather is so uncertain and changeable, turning from good to bad, that the farming classes say without a doubt it will be a late season. ---------- A gramd specimen of a trout was caught by a Mr. Michael Walsh, living near Corrib View, on the artificial fly last week. This goes to show what a lake the Corrib is, when a trout of such size can be got, 10 ½ lbs. Weight. The play was on a Castle Connell rod 1 hour before the fish was landed. ---------- Rev. Ml Faherty, C. C., Oughterard, has been transferred to be P. P. of Spiddal. ---------- Messrs. Gill & Co., of Dublin, have published "The Abbey of Ross : Its History and Details," an interesting treatise by the late Sir Oliver Joseph Burke, B.L., for which a new editor has been found by the publishers, whose name is not given however. Its popularity is easily understood by any one who reads it, as it gives a full historical account of one of the great seats of learning and piety which made our island famous in olden times. The author knows how to deal with his subject, and in describing the ancient glories and modern decay of the grand old pile he makes each stone tell a living story. It reads like an old-time romance more than a plain history. Interesting also are the descriptions of the different apartments in the great Abbey, and the uses for which they were set apart. One sees the beautiful building once more peopled with scholars and sages, and hears the subdued hum of life within its hallowed walls in reading this story of the eventful past and of the great names that were enrolled in its register from its foundation in 1851. ---------- A small farmer named Hogan dropped dead at his residence, Ballindooly on Wednesday. Deceased had been several times threatened that if he didn't give up a farm which he held under the eleven months' system he should mark the consequences, and finally he surrendered the place at considerable loss. Another farm which he held under the same system he refused to give up, as it was his only means of support with notice of surrender on the 1st of May, and this, it is believed, so preyed on his mind that it resulted in his sudden demise. He leaves a wife and 8 young children to mourn his loss. Deceased was only 45 years of age. ---------- Reports from the mackerel fishing industry at Cleggan since the opening of the season a few days ago are very satisfactory. There are at present ten boats engaged in the industry, and the catches by each boat so early in the season have exceeded the expectations of the fishermen. On the first night of the venture some of the nets got broken, so great was the draught of fishes. This, however, has been attributed to the nets having been too dry before being used. It is also stated that white trout have been taken in some of the nets. There are at present representatives from five fish buyers from England as Cleggan who are paying at the rate of 15s per 1,000 for the mackerel. An addition is being built so the pier, so as to afford safer and better accommodation for the mooring of boats. ---------- Rev Father Connelly, C.C., Carracastle, who had been absent in America for almost two years, returned to Ireland recently. The object of his mission to America was to raise funds for erecting a new wing to Ballaghaderreen College. After discharging all liabilities for the last financial year, Castlebar Urban Council finds itself in the happy position of having the substantial sum of £554 to credit. ---------- Following an advance party of four, over twenty engineers of the Ordinance Survey Department will make Easkey their head quarters during the next few months for the purpose of making a more accurate survey of that portion of the country. The men will parade every morning on Easkey bridge, after which the day's operations will begin. Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa

My 3rd-great-grandmother, Bridget Costello, was born in the vicinity of Tuam in 1805; married Thomas Macken/Mackin/McKin (from near Kilmaine, southern Co. Mayo) in the late 1820s; had 8 children and they all immigrated to the United States by 1853 or so. (Thomas may have come over a few years earlier.) They settled in Marion Co., Kentucky, where Bridget and Thomas became tollgate keepers. Thomas died in 1854 and she later moved to Louisville with her daughter, Delia Joyce. Bridget died in Louisville in Feb. 1890. I don't know anything about Bridget, other than she is supposedly related to Archbishop McHale, but apparently not on the Costello side because noone can be found in his family tree with that name. I will be in Tuam this spring and would love to go to the Catholic church she might have worshiped at or find where they might have lived. I'm guessing it was somewhere between Tuam and Kilmaine, which might explain how she met her husband, but that's just a guess. Any Costello researchers out there? Would appreciate any help, even if it's just a guess! Rita Mackin Fox rfox58@alltel.net

Anyone have Tom Corbett's e-mail address? Lost it with my hard drive. david

Anyone have connections like this? david

This poem was written by the Irish poet John McGlynn in 1844 after he spent several days visiting John Finn at his home in Oranmore, Galway. Apparently John was a good story teller and told about a "Hugh of princely blood"; "legend of the faithful hound" and "when Erin was ". Does anyone know anything about these references? Thanks Jack “ No longer now my footsteps stray O’er flowing beach and pebbly way Or view the sun at evening hours Casting his glory o’er the sky Reminds us still that He is nigh And then at night, the day being o’er You told us of some Irish lore How Hugh of princely blood was drowned The legend of the faithful hound And stories of our ancient fame When Erin was and had a name And oft the night was spent in pleasure We joined the dancers’ merry measure As sprightly tapping toe and heel To quadrille, polka, jig, and reel Thus passed the time so pleasant, gay That we ne’er felt it pass away I hope that 1845 Will find us all well and still alive To spend a few weeks free from care Your pretty cottage joys to share So now accept, my dear John Finn The kind regards of John McGlynn.”[7]

I have been tracing my husband's family tree, and found a Michael O'Malley who came to America from Galway when he was 17 years old. He first came to Boston then Missouri and died in 1920. Michael was born on May 4, 1851 and his parents were Michael O'Malley and Mary Kuig or King. I'm not sure about the mother's maiden name, but it starts with a K. I have never done research outside the United States before so I'm sure where to go next. I don't know what area of Galway they lived in. I would like to hear from anyone who may know this family and has any advice of tracing ancestors in Ireland. D. Pitezel dlpitezel@prodigy.net

> Elaine, Could you tell me more about this project; how it's organized, who determines which records are transcribed, how volunteers are found, etc. Does the group have a web site detailing their project? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Extracting records from LDS films for Galway > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:37:52 +0100 > From: "elshie" <elshie@eircom.net> > To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Tim, > > I'm a voluntary transcriber on a cross-border project that transcribes > pre-civil registration Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, by county and by > church, from films obtained from the National Library in Dublin (which holds > many of the pre-civil registration parish records still extant). These > records were filmed quite a long time ago and the quality is not good, they > need to be re-filmed using image enhancing technology to minimise - as far > as is possible given the quality of some of those old records and the > handwritings therein - any misinterpretation. > > The GRO records are post-civil registration. > > There was quite some discussion on another list (Sligo or Limerick I think) > some months ago about who would own copyright to the old church records and > whether, therefore, it could be breaching any copyright/ownership to post > them to a web site without permission. By extension, this question should > be looked into re the GRO records as these are State records. > > The project I assist - Irish Genealogy Project - is a purely Irish one (that > is, we use copies of the original church records, not LDS films), has the > permission of the religions concerned but ONLY for Baptisms, Marriages and > Burials (first communion and confirmation are not to be included) up until > civil registration began. The data bases to which the transcribed > information is transferred are then provided to the family history desks of > the relevant county libraries, and also held by the IGP. It is my one > regret - being a family researcher as well as a transcriber - that this > information is not (at the moment at least) intended for online searching. > > Good luck with your project. > > Elaine >

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, MAY 1, 1909 TUAM, CO. GALWAY PITHY PARS. - Personal, Parochial Provincial and Particular ---------- Edward Martyn was born at Masonbrook, near Loughrea, in this county, on the 31st January, 1859. He was educated at Belvedere, College, Dublin; Beaumont College, Windsor, and Christ Church, Oxford; but his only real education was that which he gave himself. In 1885 he thought of publishing a volume of poems, but destroyed them instead. In 1890 he published a satirical romance called "Morgante the Lesser." In 1899 his two plays, "The Heather Field" and "Maeve," with an introduction by George Moore, appeared, and immediately gave rise to a storm of controversy in the Press. "The Heather Field," at the inaguration of the Irish Literary Theatre, was produced on the stage in Dublin with brilliant artistic success in May, 1899, and in London at Terry's Theatre. With the same success, inn the following June. It has since been translated into German for the German stage. It was produced for the first time three nights last week at the Abbey National Theatre, Dublin, by the talented troupe that have made that place famous, and with the same success that marked the previous performances. ---------- In the Co Galway Land Purchase has thus proceeded: Area purchased and distributed, 53,332s. 1 r. 24 p.; area purchased but not yet distributed, 34s. 3r 30p.; area for which offers had been made but which had not been acquired, 22,069s. 2r. 18p. ---------- In the Ballinasloe Lunatic Asylum the number on last Board day, 487 males, 544 males - 1,03, since admitted, 14 males, 7 females - 21; since discharged, 2 males, 4 females - 6; died, 8 males, 6 females - 14; remaining on this date, 851 males, 545 females - 1,894. County Galway, 563 males, 336 females - 899; County Roscommon, 269 males, 205 females - 474; original lunatics, 12 males, 2 females - 14; total, 851 males, 448 females. ---------- A large consignment of Persse's whiskey was shipped by the s. s. Arethusa for Newry Custom House during the present week. The quantity of whiskey was the largest which left Galway port for a considerable period, amounting to over 200 puncheons. ---------- Sir George and Lady Morris, who have been staying at Mentone for the last six weeks, have gone onto Seville for a short stay, after which they will return home. ---------- Owing to the decision arrived at by the Mayo County Council on Saturday last, the Secretary. Mr. John Clarke, the Accountant, Mr. George B. Virtue, and Mr. James Sweeney, writing clerk, will hand in their resignations at the next meeting of the Council. ---------- The Most Rev. Dr. Healy, Archbishop of Tuam, in the course of an address at Balle parish church, after a reference to temperance in connection with which his Grace stated that he was delighted to hear from Father MacDermott that there was a great improvement, said he was pleased to hear that after long negotiations the large estate and the grass lands around the town - and nowhere were they more remarkable in Ireland, than about Balla - had been purchased, and would be divided amongst the people for cultivation.. It had always been a great satisfaction to him to hear of things moving in that direction, and he was glad that the day would soon be at hand when, instead of the land being given over to cattle, the people would have it to work it, and in this connection his Grace urged that they should work the land properly by applying labour and skill to it, and if they did the produce would be five times more per acre than at present, and he advocated that farmers ought to produce everything needed for the support of their families from the land. ---------- The late gifted and popula writer, Marion Crawford, was connected on his father's side with the Crawford's of Galway. Francis Marion Crawford, the celebrated novelist, died on April 2. He was born August 2, 1854, at the Baths of Lucca, in Northern Italy. He derived his given names from a maternal ancestor, General Francis Marion, a heroic figure in the American Revolution. His father, Thomas Crawford, was the son of emigrants from the West of Ireland, who was brought to America when a child, was apprenticed in boyhood to a wood carver and in early manhood went to Rome to study carving in marble. With W W Story and Hiram Powers he eventually became a member of the famous trio of pioneer American sculptors who made their headquarters in Italy, the two former in Rome, the latter in Florence. Thomas Crawford married Miss Louisa Ward, a sister of Mrs. Ward Howe. At two years of age Marion was sent to be brought up by relatives in Bordentown, NJ, but after his father's death, in 1857, he was taken back to Rome, where he spent his boyhood. Until twelve years of age his education was entrusted to a French governess, so that he was brought up with three languages, the French of his nursery, the Italian of his environment and the English of his family circle. ---------- We are very pleased to learn that the recent examination for clerkships for the G P O London, Master T P O'Regan, son of Mr. James O'Regan, postmaster, Kiltimagh, passed a very successful examination, having qualified, and obtained 8th place from 300 applicants. We join in wishing him very many happy years to enjoy his position, and hope that this is only the forerunner to higher honours in the service of this great Department. ---------- We are pleased to learn that Lord Lucan who for some time past has been indisposed, has now completely recovered from his illness. This will be pleasing news to the people of Castlebar, where his lordship is so much esteemed, as well as to all the tenants on the Lucan Estate. Few as to all the tenants on the Lucan Estate. Few Irish landlords have proved so worthy of the admiration of the people as the present Earl of Lucan, who not only made generous presentation in the way of free sites the church, schools, parochial residence, presbytery, and other building sites in Castlebar, who is also noted for his charitable treatment of his tenantry, and was one of the first, if not the first, landlord in Ireland that striped out his large farms and divided them amongst his tenants. Lord Lucan has set a noble example which might well be followed by landlords throughout Ireland. We are pleased to learn that he will, as usual, spend the summer months as Castlebar House. Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa

Hi Elaine, Thank you for your reply. It is always refreshing to find Irishmen (women) who are interested in genealogy and the accessing of records for those who are unable to visit Ireland. Does not the IGP post county information with names and years of baptisms and marriages at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie in order to advertise the services of the local Heritage Centers? Is this practice permissible only when being used as a commercial advertising tool? There are many transcriptions of LDS films online. But should I discover that posting my extractions of particulars for a limited area in a county violates copyright, then I will post only the townlands, dates and if permissible the surnames for which I have collated data and allow people to contact me for any further details. Gathering data for specific townlands should in itself give hint to many relationships not apparent in indexes which designate nothing more than a poor law union. I�ve waited many years for the Local Heritage Centers to complete their indexing project. Realizing what an overwhelming task this must be, there remain many records that have not yet been completed. Unfortunately, the ones which are most relevant to my own search are not in the databases for my counties of concern. To unearth this bit of information itself was quite a task. The Galway center was forthright in supplying me with a list of their holdings. Another Center requested 15 Euros to fill out a Registration Form in response to my query of which records were held. I�ve learned the hard way to first confirm which records are in their possession as I have paid dearly for a list of � possibles� that had nothing to do with the RC parishes of my concern, for the time frames I indicated. The reason being�they did not hold the records which were needed to unearth my family data. Still, they continued the search and charged me for doing so??? As the RC parishes I need have not been filmed by the LDS, I propose accessing the only data available which covers my areas of concern: the Civil records. Albeit the dates are later than I need, perhaps some clues will be unearthed. As for the quality of the films you have been transcribing�are there any plans to re-film using the imaging enhancing technology to which you referred? How does the IGP presently handle the data on the pages that are �unreadable�? Are there any plans to convert the computerized data to CD and sell it to the public as was done with the Australian civil records (at a very �stiff� price I might add)? Is there a projected completion date for the indexing project? Thank you for bearing with me. I apologise if I sounded as if I were �shooting the messenger�. Much appreciated, Tim Berry elshie <elshie@eircom.net> wrote:Hi Tim, I'm a voluntary transcriber on a cross-border project that transcribes pre-civil registration Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, by county and by church, from films obtained from the National Library in Dublin (which holds many of the pre-civil registration parish records still extant). These records were filmed quite a long time ago and the quality is not good, they need to be re-filmed using image enhancing technology to minimise - as far as is possible given the quality of some of those old records and the handwritings therein - any misinterpretation. The GRO records are post-civil registration. There was quite some discussion on another list (Sligo or Limerick I think) some months ago about who would own copyright to the old church records and whether, therefore, it could be breaching any copyright/ownership to post them to a web site without permission. By extension, this question should be looked into re the GRO records as these are State records. The project I assist - Irish Genealogy Project - is a purely Irish one (that is, we use copies of the original church records, not LDS films), has the permission of the religions concerned but ONLY for Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (first communion and confirmation are not to be included) up until civil registration began. The data bases to which the transcribed information is transferred are then provided to the family history desks of the relevant county libraries, and also held by the IGP. It is my one regret - being a family researcher as well as a transcriber - that this information is not (at the moment at least) intended for online searching. Good luck with your project. Elaine ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

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