This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1115298317271_8I=wJ-zZ1p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I sent $100 USD to South Mayo and basically was told they had nothing before 1860s. (Mine were famine immigrants.) So, even though I knew the very town they were from, I could get nothing. They did make some suppositions and I am sure they did some research, but it made me reluctant to send the same amount to East Galway to search my Tuam-area roots. This discussion group has given me about as much as I could hope to get from the Heritage Center. I can't believe it's 150 Euro to look at 3 books, though. Is there a decimal in there somewhere? That's crazy! Happy hunting! Rita Mackin Fox Searching mainly the Mackin and Costello families (with a little info on some allied families in Kentucky who might also hail from Galway-Mayo--Walsh and Joyce) ------=____1115298317271_8I=wJ-zZ1p Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------"; name="reply" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="reply" LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQoNCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9w bGFpbg0KDQpJUkwtR0FMV0FZLUQgRGlnZXN0CQkJCVZvbHVtZSAwNSA6IElzc3VlIDkyDQoN ClRvZGF5J3MgVG9waWNzOg0KICAjMSBIZXJpdGFnZSBDZW50ZXJzICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgW3RpbSBiZXJyeSA8dGltb3RoeXRiZXJyeUB5YWhvby5jYT5dDQogICMyIENlbnRl cnMgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBbUGh5bGxpcyBQaGlsbGlwcyA8UGh5 bGxpc01AcG9ib3guY10NCiAgIzMgU2Nob29sIHJlZ2lzdGVycyAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgIFtKb3NpIDxnZW9naGVnYW5nYXRoZXJlckBidGludGVybmV0XQ0KDQpBZG1pbmlzdHJp dmlhOg0KU29tZSBoZWxwZnVsIENvdW50eSBHYWx3YXkgR2VuZWFsb2d5IHNpdGVzOg0KDQpJ 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I was only looking for one record and had a verified date of birth and parish. I was unable to go to Ireland myself so I hired Hilda from Records Ireland and she got me a no trace form and a copy of my grandfather's baptismal certificate. I believe however, that this service is only for records retrieval and not research, you need to have some solid info to go on first. The price was resonable for the priceless information I received. In my opinion, which is far from expert, the GRO claims to have alot more records than they do, I have sent several requests to them over the last couple of years and they have only found one name and it was the wrong one. I do, however, think it's a good idea to try them first by mail before going over to see if you get a positive or negative reply, it would save alot of time and trouble while there. It only costs a euro 90 per request, if they find the record they send you a notice and you decide if you want to pursue further. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Phillips" <PhyllisM@pobox.com> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:27 AM Subject: [GALWAY] Researching in Ireland > At 12:39 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote: > > > > >>I'm glad you had a better trip to the GRO then I did and I agree about the >>Library they were very helpful there and I just got the wrong staff on the >>day I went to the GRO. But I'm going back next year. So maybe I will have >>better luck in finding my Grandmothers birth record. > > > That happened to me in Boston I had great luck in Vitals and my friend > (Who is a Reynolds) did not > > Phyllis > > > > >> >> >> >>==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== >>Have you traveled or are you planning to travel to Ireland??? >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Eire_Travel/ >>To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > NETSCAPE questions or expertise???? > mailto:Netscape-L-request@rootsweb.com > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

At 12:39 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote: >I'm glad you had a better trip to the GRO then I did and I agree about the >Library they were very helpful there and I just got the wrong staff on the >day I went to the GRO. But I'm going back next year. So maybe I will have >better luck in finding my Grandmothers birth record. That happened to me in Boston I had great luck in Vitals and my friend (Who is a Reynolds) did not Phyllis > > > >==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== >Have you traveled or are you planning to travel to Ireland??? >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Eire_Travel/ >To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing >mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Greetings! Returned from an all too brief trip to Dublin recently. My sister and I were prepared to NOT find anything on our people (, just to save ourselves from crushing disappointment). Within about 3 hours after arriving in Dublin, we knew where our great grandparents had lived when their 1st three sons were born. I found that information in the 2nd index that I looked in, verified by the photo copy that followed a few minutes later. Perhaps our experience varied from that of others, but we found the staff at the GRO to be very patient, helpful, and quick about providing both indexes and photocopies. I made 3 trips there in the few short days we had in Dublin ,and did not go away disappointed . I'm glad that I won't be there in the summer at the peak of the research period, heat, etc., however. The room was quite crowded one day and no doubt gets much worse. But WOULD I go there in the heat and a crowd??? And pay for the privilege of searching the indexes?? You betcha! We've only been searching less than 3 yrs., since just after our father died ,but we started out not even knowing our great grandparents' first names. The volume of information that we have accumulated from records in the U.S., on these "everyday people "whom we have never even seen a photo of, is amazing in itself. but we needed to know where in Ireland they came from. Now we have that information and a direction. We can go to Moher and Derryvokeel in Galway, and to Ballymintan in Roscommon, and get a little closer to our Reynolds and Anderson great and great-great grandparents, if only in our own minds and hearts. We call that a blessing. We are also grateful for the provision of meeting with a genealogist at both the NLI and the National Archives. We had very positive experiences at both of those places also, in addition to just being able to stand in that gorgeous library reading room. WOW!! Thanks Josi ,and AnnMarie, and Janet for your help and encouragement. Happy and successful hunting to all. Sheila

Hello List, I never saw my reply to the below comments made by Elaine posed to the list when I first sent this out in April...guess it got lost in cyberspace. I am still very interested in her answers to my questions. As for the present...I have begun extracting records of births and marriages for the Registration District of Renvyle, part of the Clifden Superintendant's District, regardless of surname. As a test, to see if the effort was worthwhile as friend who is also very active in genealogy, Nancy Celleri, has assisted me with a test to see if the effort is worthwhile. She searched the LDS site online for 30 names that I had transcribed from the 4thQ of births registered in 1870. If all 30 were to be found I would then have questioned whether to continue my efforts of continuing to extract records which have been indexed by the LDS. The results were as follows: 27 of the names were found, by all means possible (parent search, name search alone, date and place search included/excluded etc...) 3 events were not noted at the LDS site. This is a small sampling, still 10 percent of the names were somehow missed by the LDS...Please, realise that I believe the LDS has done a WONDERFUL job. Without them most of us would never be able to access many of the Irish records without spending a king's ransom. As Nancy tells me that she long ago remembered someone on the list researching the name HEANEU/HEANUE...there is a Margaret born in Cloonlooaun to John HEANUE (presently in England) and Margaret also formerly HEANUE on Nov 14 1870 which apparently could not be located on the LDS site. Another Margaret appears in Oct 1870 with different parents. Another missing name seems to be for Mary FITSPATRICK, born Nov 4th 1870, father Patrick Fitspatrick mother Bridget LAFFEY The last missing name...Maryanne CONROY, born Dec 2 1870, Kylemore, to Patt Conroy and Bridget MANNION I imagine that continuing with this project may be a good idea afterall. Still hoping to hear from Elaine regarding my questions below, Cheers, Tim tim berry <timothytberry@yahoo.ca> wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: tim berry <timothytberry@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: [GALWAY] Extracting records from LDS films for Galway To: elshie <elshie@eircom.net>, IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Hi Elaine, Thank you for your reply. It is always refreshing to find Irishmen (women) who are interested in genealogy and the accessing of records for those who are unable to visit Ireland. Does not the IGP post county information with names and years of baptisms and marriages at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie in order to advertise the services of the local Heritage Centers? Is this practice permissible only when being used as a commercial advertising tool? There are many transcriptions of LDS films online. But should I discover that posting my extractions of particulars for a limited area in a county violates copyright, then I will post only the townlands, dates and if permissible the surnames for which I have collated data and allow people to contact me for any further details. Gathering data for specific townlands should in itself give hint to many relationships not apparent in indexes which designate nothing more than a poor law union. I�ve waited many years for the Local Heritage Centers to complete their indexing project. Realizing what an overwhelming task this must be, there remain many records that have not yet been completed. Unfortunately, the ones which are most relevant to my own search are not in the databases for my counties of concern. To unearth this bit of information itself was quite a task. The Galway center was forthright in supplying me with a list of their holdings. Another Center requested 15 Euros to fill out a Registration Form in response to my query of which records were held. I�ve learned the hard way to first confirm which records are in their possession as I have paid dearly for a list of � possibles� that had nothing to do with the RC parishes of my concern, for the time frames I indicated. The reason being�they did not hold the records which were needed to unearth my family data. Still, they continued the search and charged me for doing so??? As the RC parishes I need have not been filmed by the LDS, I propose accessing the only data available which covers my areas of concern: the Civil records. Albeit the dates are later than I need, perhaps some clues will be unearthed. As for the quality of the films you have been transcribing�are there any plans to re-film using the imaging enhancing technology to which you referred? How does the IGP presently handle the data on the pages that are �unreadable�? Are there any plans to convert the computerized data to CD and sell it to the public as was done with the Australian civil records (at a very �stiff� price I might add)? Is there a projected completion date for the indexing project? Thank you for bearing with me. I apologise if I sounded as if I were �shooting the messenger�. Much appreciated, Tim Berry elshie <elshie@eircom.net> wrote: Hi Tim, I'm a voluntary transcriber on a cross-border project that transcribes pre-civil registration Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, by county and by church, from films obtained from the National Library in Dublin (which holds many of the pre-civil registration parish records still extant). These records were filmed quite a long time ago and the quality is not good, they need to be re-filmed using image enhancing technology to minimise - as far as is possible given the quality of some of those old records and the handwritings therein - any misinterpretation. The GRO records are post-civil registration. There was quite some discussion on another list (Sligo or Limerick I think) some months ago about who would own copyright to the old church records and whether, therefore, it could be breaching any copyright/ownership to post them to a web site without permission. By extension, this question should be looked into re the GRO records as these are State records. The project I assist - Irish Genealogy Project - is a purely Irish one (that is, we use copies of the original church records, not LDS films), has the permission of the religions concerned but ONLY for Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (first communion and confirmation are not to be included) up until civil registration began. The data bases to which the transcribed information is transferred are then provided to the family history desks of the relevant county libraries, and also held by the IGP. It is my one regret - being a family researcher as well as a transcriber - that this information is not (at the moment at least) intended for online searching. Good luck with your project. Elaine ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. 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Only 11 school registers survive for the whole of Galway and these among the 394 survivors are at the NLI in Dublin...not 'any' research centre. Josi ------------------------------------- Volume 14 of my Newsletter is back on www.btinternet.com/~finty/ See if you can identify the mystery guests ------------------------------------------

I sent $199.00 euros to West Ireland and after almost a year and sent back up on what I had already done they came up with nothing. I thought school rolls would be able to find my grandmothers record but nothing. Sometimes i think it is cheaper to fly to Dublin and go to the NLI and just do your own when I went to Dublin I did the GRO and that was a joke even spending the money to get my Indexes before hand fro the family history center. Which Jane told me when you go there you get what they have on staff my ones were not at all fast. I went in one day you are only allowed 3 books at 150euro each and then when you find something I had to come back the next day what a waste of time and come up with the strip from the page so you cannot see anyone elses name. When I did it with the FHC I got the whole page and like we all know they may have another family member you know is yours. Ether way you pay. I'm going back next year and will also be going to Belfast. I have both Grand Parents from each end. I hope this has helped Phyllis Birmingham/Carland/Doherty/McLaughlin

Google have a new search engine in the making - it's called 'Google suggest' The way it works is this, you begin to type in a word and it will come up with different combinations on that word and your next word and give you the number of web pages with those words on them before you begin searching. So, for example - if I type in Jane Lyons, it wil tell me that there are - or - it has 18,000 web pages with those two words on it, if I add Ireland to my search phrase, then it tells me that there are 107,000 web pages in it's directory with those three words on them. I had fun with this the other day - and - I found sites that were interesting and that I've never seen anywhere else - and no, they weren't all sites with my name on them, I just tried those on a bit of a nosieness/wondering search. Anyway - I hope some of you have as much fun with this as I did. Remember though, it's BETA - that means it's still in testing mode - and could come up with something wrong for you. If that happens, please, do send them your comments. Jane http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1

Good evening Lists, Would anyone whose had exprerience with research at the heritage centers be so kind to tell me if they can do a 'parent search' (as can be done for early civil records on the LDS site online)? In other words -if you supply them with father and mother's names, have they been able to pull up RC baptisms of all the children, thus locating unnamed siblings of your forbear? Living in ingnorance of their computerised search engine features, Thanks, Tim --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Gort, Co Galway News Items: Times; London, Middlesex, England; 26 Aug 1811 A barbarous murder was perpetrated a few days ago, in the vicinity of Gort, on one Flin, of Thomond-gate, Limerick, who had been engaged as a stone-cutter on the new buildings at Tierlohan; being a stranger in that part of the country, he had been looked upon as an object of jealousy, and was, on his return from the fair of Gort, in the evening, way-laid by some inhuman monsters, who committed this horrid deed in the presence of his distracted wife. Times; London, Middlesex, England; 2 May 1833 In Galway on Saturday last Thomas Coleman was hanged, pursuant to sentence at last assizes, for attempting to assassinate Messrs. Rosengrave, near Gort. He was attended by the Rev. Mr. Fahy, Roman Catholic Ordinary, and the Rev. Mr. Roche, parish-priest. He died penitent, and in peace with all mankind. Bucks County Gazette; Bristol, Pennsylvania; June 15, 1882 On Thursday last, Walter M. Bourke, a Galway landlord residing at Rahasane was hot dead while returning from Gort. His escort, a soldier, was also killed. The murder occurred at Ardrahan, seven miles north of Gort. Mr. Bourke was riding in front of his dragoons escort when a volley from rifles was fired at them from behind a wall and both fell dead. Mr.Bourke was a Magistrate and son of the late Crown Solicitor for May. He was a barrister by profession, and had amassed a fortune in India. He possessed two estates in Ireland, one at Curraleagh, and the other at Rahasane. The murders created great excitement in Parliament. Mr. Parnell and other Land League leaders deplored it in strong language. The Landmark; Statesville, N.C.; 16 May 1921 One Woman Killed in Irish Ambush. Dublin, May 16 - Three government officers and the wife of one of them were shot and killed in an ambush last night, four miles from Gort, county Galway. The party was riding in a motor car when it was ambushed by 40 men. Military and police reinforcements were sent to the scene and were fired upon, and one constable was seriously wounded. Decatur Daily Review; Decatur, Illinois; 16 May 1921 Officers Shot. Dublin, May 16 - Three government officers and the wife of one of them were shot and killed in an ambush last night at Ballyelen, four miles from Gort, County Galway. The victims were District Inspector Blake and his wife, Captain Cornwallis and Lieutenant McCreery. The captain and the lieutenant were attached to the Seventeenth Lancers. The party was riding in a motor car when it was ambushed by forty men. Military and police reinforcements were fired upon and the constable was severely wounded. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ Researching my JOYNT family who emigrated from Ashfield Demesne,Beagh Parish, ( near Gort) Co. Galway. Also researching NELLY from same area. My great grandfather's sister, Margaret "Peggy" Joynt, was the only JOYNT of this family to stay behind in Ireland. She married Patrick NELLY and she and her husband died in March 1913. The interesting thing about the NELLY surname is that in all the Irish records I have found it spelled as NELLY and in all the US records of their children who emigrated it was spelled as NALLY.

Subject: Martin-Holland/Hollans-Summers Hello, I would like to contact anyone who is researching the Martin, Holland/Hollans, or Summers families. My Gt.-Grandfather Daniel Martin was married to Bridget Holland/Hollans in Ireland pre-1840 and moved to Kelso, Scotland in 1842 with their son John. In 1880 John married Rose Summers in Aberdeen, Scotland. Rose Summers family also lived in Kelso although her Parents were born in Ireland. Daniel had a brother Terrance who moved to Leith, Scotland in the 1840's with a large family but by the 1890's they had all moved from that area to parts unknown. Regards Adeline Martin Southington Ct. U.S.A.

Hello Margaret COTTINGHAM was born ca. 1834 in Ireland and died in Phila., PA in 1907. Her parents were John and Mary (SCHOFIELD) Cottingham. Margaret was living with her two nephews, John and Thomas Cosgrove, in Phila. at the time of her death. She is buried in a grave owned by my grandparents, Christopher and Mary (Cosgrove) Cloherty. Christopher was born ca 1947 in Co. Galway. researching: Schofield, Cottingham, Cosgrove, Tierney, Cloherty Marguerite

http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/galwayconts.htm January : a lot of the Lewis 1837 descriptions of civil parishes were added, most parish descriptions A-K and some others are on the site. More will be added during the month of May February : Athenry Trades Directory 1931 ; Cong & the Neal Baptismal extracts 1870 March : Tuam Trades Directory 1831 April: 1901 census extracts - Heads of Household. Gort & Glennamaddy Civil Registration Districts (aka Poor Law Unions). Townlands from the following civil parishes: Ardrahan, Ballinakill, Dunmore, Kilcroan & Templetogher. More 1901 census indices will be added over the coming month Over the past four months, any pages on the site that have mention of people from Galway have been linked in to the Galway page. Civil Registration references have been updated for various districts that cover county Galway. One thing to note though, the townlands of the 1901 Heads of Household indices are listed under the civil parishes that they were in during 1885 and before - in some cases, townlands may have been moved to other parishes since then. I will be sticking with the parish structure pre 1885, regardless of the parish that I find the townland listed in for the 1901 census. Notes will be added to any page to indicate that the townland was not actually in that parish for the 1901 census at a later date, where such is the case. Townland names are noted on the County page beside the link to the census index. For those people who did ask me to keep an eye out for various surnames when I made a look up offer a while back, I have not yet reached any of the townlands mentioned by you - when I do get to them, I will pass on the info to you. Jane

I'll be unsubbing in a couple of days until I return from Ireland at the end of the month. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

In Cathy Joint Labath's excerpts from the Connaught Journal of 23/8/1824 there is mention of a Denis Clarke being nominated as one of the Committee to forward the interest of the Hibernian Joint Stock Annuity and Banking Company. Does any Lister know anything about this Denis Clarke, or have a connection to him? Was he from Galway / County Galway? Thankyou Cathy for posting these interesting snippets. Best wishes, Elaine (in sunny Ireland) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: [GALWAY] !! Connaught Journal; Aug 23, 1824 "Galway Items" > THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL > Galway, Monday, August 23, 1824

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, MAY 29, 1909 TUAM, CO. GALWAY BIRTHS BOURKE - May 19, 2909, at 63 Lower Baggot street, Dublin, the wife of Geoffrey Bourke, Oldtowne, Ballindine, Co Mayo, of a son. CHEVERS - May 19, 1909, at Killyan, Co Galway, the wife of John J. Chevers, Esq., D.L., of a son. ---------- DIED PERSSE - At Renmore, Galway, Rose, widow of Major William Norton Persse. D.L., of Roxborough, County Galway/ DOYLE - May 16th, 1909, at 56 Shelbourne road, Dublin, Mrs. Honoria Doyle, aged 86 years, widow of the late Edward J. Doyle, Maryboro and Inchicall, and fondly-loved mother of Nurse Doyle, Infirmary, Westport, Co Mayo. BUCHANAN - May 16th, 1909, at his residence, Tobberocann (?), Ayle, Andrew Buchanan, aged, 50 years. CUSACK - On the 13th May, 1909, at her residence, Bridge street, Westport, Kate Cusack, aged 39 years. LLOYD - May 24th, 1909, at 19 Allesbury road, Dublin, Frances Dorothea, daughter of the late Guy Llyod, Esq., D.L., of Croghan, Co Roscommon. ---------- PITHY PARS. - Personal, Parochial Provicial and Particular At the recent school examinations of the Royal Academy of Music and the Royal College of Music, Miss Garvey gained distinction. She is a member of the community "La Sainte Union des Sacre Coeurs." Athlone, Westmeath, and a daughter of the late Dr. Garvey, of Cornfield, Hollymount, and of the late Mrs. Stella Garvey, the popular novelist, and niece of Colonel Michael Doheny, who was so prominently connected with the 48 movement. We wish her every success in the future. ---------- Quinultagh, near Dunmore, is derived from Ultach - an Ulsterman. Along the Western and Southern slopes of Sliabh Dart there are many thickly-populated villages. The advent of this population to the locality synchronises with the Plantation of Ulster hundreds of years ago, and these people, who are still decidedly clannish, are the descendants of the expropriated Catholic tenantry of parts of Ulster, who, dispossessed of their farms and homesteads in the Black North, took up their residence on this heather-growing range, which reminded them of their native homes amid the dark mountains of Tyrone and Donegal. They still cherish many traditions of the olden times, when their forefathers had to carry long dirks to defend themselves at fairs and markets, and of the faction fights when, standing together like one man, they always gained the day. ---------- We find, says a reverend and learned correspondent, reference is made to Dunmore in the annals of the Four Masters as early as A.D. 1133, when MacCarthy and Conor O'Brien, of Munster, destroyed it. In A.D. 1155 Murthough O'Loughlin burned the town and raised the walls to the ground. In A.D. 1177 Milo de Cogan occupied Dunmore with 40 men at arms, 200 horse soldiers, and 300 archers. King Rory O'Connor after a successful attack put this army to fight ; and the English did not encamp until they reached the other side of the Shannon at Lanesboro. In A.D. 1558, Captain Mordaunt led an English army from Lanesboro through Roscommon. It is recorded that the English soldiers raised a mutiny against the captain in the town, and to be marched them back again. ---------- Mountbellow Sports under the G.A.A. Laws, will be held in the Show Grounds, on Thursday. 10th June, and promise to be a great success. There are no less than fifteen events on the programe, including a tug-of-war contest, which promises to be a particularly interesting affair, Mr. M. Moran, hon. sec. to the Sports Committee, is leaving nothing undone to make the fixture a huge success. ---------- SCAN34.JPG "I am an old vagabond, a widow, and a night-flier," Mrs Bridget Flaherty, told the magistrates sitting at Gort Petty Sessions on Thursday last during the hearing of a case in which she was summoned for threatening language. ---------- "Health and Strength" Co. have issued two excellent handbooks. A book of Walking and "Tricks of Self-Defence." They are eminently practical and useful, being well and intelligently written and sure to have a large sale. They are selling at one shilling, and published at 12 Burleigh Street, Strand, London, W.C. ---------- The death of Miles Ferrick,. For twenty-five years a well known resident of Butte, Montana, occuirred on April 25. Decease was born in County Galway forty-seven years ago. ---------- There seems to be a big row brewing about the men's bathing place at Blackrock, Galway. Colonel O'Hara refuses to allow the Urban Council of Galway to put up the springboard, unless on certain conditions which the Council refuses to accept. ---------- Information wanted of Patrick, John and James Murray, who left Carropadden, Dunmore, Co Galway, thirty-five or forty years ago, Patrick went to California about 1876 or 1880. John was on a visit to James at 83 Wyckoff street, Brooklyn, N.Y., in May, 1879. They have one sister Winifred, still living in Ireland. Thomas Kenny, who lived in Thompsonville, Hartford, Conn., about the year 1880. Address James M. Clancy, 92 Federal Street, West Lynn, Mass. ---------- We are pleased to see that Messrs. Naughton and Co., Tuam, are at present carrying out extensive alterations in their business premises, which are under the capable management or MR. Butler. ---------- At Loughrea Guardians meeting, a relieving officer said he gave a ticket to an old worame named Margaret O'Neill, who, he was informed, had £1,500 in bank. ---------- Lord and Lady Oranmore have let their house in Cavendish place, London, for a few weeks to Lord and Lady Buckinghamshire, and are staying at Englefield Green for a time, as Lady Oranmore has been far freom well lately. ---------- Colonel Courtenay, C.B., D.L., was hon sec of the ball on the 24th inst., in aid of the Co Galway Stall, which was such a complete success - one of the very best given this season. The tickets were limited to 250. The ball took place in the Pillar Room, Rotunda, Dublin, commencing at 10 o'clock. The energetic committee were Lady Clonbrock, Clonbrock, Ahascragh ;Lady Ashtown (President), Woodlawn, Co Galway ; Duchesse de Stackpoole, Mount Hazel, Ballymacward ; Lady Sophie Grattan-Bellew, Mount Bellew; Lady Phillips Waithman, Merlin Park, Galway ; Lady Sophie Grattan-Bellew, Mount Bellew ; Lady Phillipps Waithman, Merlin Park, Galway ; Hon Mrs. Algernon Persse, Craggclare, Ardrahan ; Hon Mrs. Campbell, Moycullen House, Moycullen, Lady Shaw, Bushy Park, Terenure; Lady Arnot, 12 Merrion square; Lady Walker, Pembroke House, Upper Mount street ; Lady Morris 48 Lower Leeson street ; Mrs. Anderson, 23 Upper Fitzwilliam street ; Mrs. Lynch-Athy, Renville, Oranmore ; Mrs. Percy Bernard, Collegnes, Booterstown ; Mrs. Berridge, Ballynahinch Castle, Co Galway; Mrs. W. Blakeney, 14 Fitzwilliam square ; Mrs. Browne, The Albany, Monkstown ; Mrs. Chatterton, New Park, Blackrock ; Mrs Chevera, Killyan, Ballinasloe ; Mrs. Arthur Courtenay, 1 Eaton square, Monkstown ; Mrs. Daly, Dunsandie(?), Athenry ; Mrs. Lambert, Castle Ellen, Athenry ; Mrs. T. Wilson-Lynch, Belmont, Galway ; Mrs. O. Hara, Lenaboy, Galway ; Mrs. Persse, Roxboroough, Loughrea, Mrs. F. Shawe-Taylor, Ardrahan ; Mrs. Teeling, 32 Upper Mount street, Mrs. P. Chenevix-Trench, 5 Fitzwilliam place ; Mrs. Woods S_____, Galway. ---------- Money Found. In September or October last, a sum of money was found on the road between Tuam and Beclare. Owner, giving a description of the money, can have it on application to office, Tuam Herald, and paying cost of this advertisement. Jim McNamara www.IrelandOldNews

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, MAY 22, 1909 TUAM, CO GALAY DIED CONNOLLY - At London, Saturday, May 8th, Gerald Vincent, second son of Bartholomew Connolly, Connaught Buildings, Galway, in his 27th year. MAHON - May 13th, 1909, Annie, daughter of the late William Mahon, Clonfree, Strokestown, Co Roscommon, and Mrs Mahon, 4 Belgrave Park, Rathmines. O'NIELL POWER - May 13, 1909, at Ryehill, Co Galway, Helen, dearly beloved wife of Bernard O'Neill Power, and daughter of the late Pierce Joyce, D.L., of Mervue. ---------- PITHY PARS. - Personal, Parochial Provincial and Particular We deeply regret to record the death at Ryehill on Wednesday last of Helen, the beloved wife of Bernard O'Neill Power, Esq. our respected and popular neighbour. Deceased was a daughter of the late Pierce Joyce, Esq, D.L., of Mervue, in this county, one of the oldest and most esteemed Catholic families who held high place in the esteem of the people as well as in their own class. Mrs. Power was greatly liked by all who knew her, and her lamented death brings deserved sadness and mourning not only to her own immmediate circle but to many families in the county. The funeral on Saturday was private. ---------- The Portumna races were held last week to the satisfaction of the organizers, the programme being full, Clare, Leitrim, Limerick, Cork, Galway, Kerry, King's and Queen's Counties being represented. The local Temperance Band id its best to increase the enjoyment. Amongst the items played was a piece entitled - "East Galway Hunt," the composition of Mrs. Dr. Kelly, Portumna, who is a member of a talented Tuam family, daughter of the late Dr. Thomas Bodkin, of Eastland House, Tuam. ---------- Mr. E. Hazleton, who has been cashier for nine years at the Galway Branch of the National Bank, has been transferred, on promotion as accountant, to Ennis. The numerous friends of Mr. Hazleton in Galway regret his departure, but are much pleased to hear of his well-merited advancement in the service of the Bank. ---------- A new post office was recently opened in Claremorris, and we are informed that the furniture and fittings, which cost something over £250, were all purchased in England. One would imagine that such things as presses, desks, counters, and pigeon-hole shelves could be procured in Ireland. We hope the matter will be cleared up. ---------- Mr. M. P. Harding, who for many years was Accountant in the National Bank, Roscommon, has been appointed Manager of the New Ross branch, and leaves there next week. Mr. Harding was some years ago stationed in Tuam, and a most efficient and popular official he was. His Team friends rejoice in his promotion. ---------- A marriage has been arrange, and will shortly take place, between Robert Dolphin Tighe, B.L., of Edmonton, Alta Canada, second son of Thomas Tighe, D.L., of the The Heath, Co. Mayo, and Eugenie, only child of Mr. H. Pagnuelo, of St. Hyacinthe, Quebec, Canada, and granddaughter of the late Hon. L.V. Sicotte, ex Premier of Lower Canada. ---------- Several Mayo tragedies took place last week. On Monday an inquest was held on a man named Malley, who died in the County Infirmary from injuries received on the railway line at Foxford ; and on Wednesday another inquest was held touching the death of a young man from Balla, who died on Tuesday as a result of a blow of a bar of iron on the head, accidentally received on the 21st February inst. During the week a carpenter in Foxford committed suicide by hanging himself, and in Castlebar a case of drowning occurred, a man named O'Donnell having been found in the Church Lake ; and from Ballinrobe come details of another drowning, an old man named Duddy of Creggduff, being found dead in a running stream. During the past week scarcely a day passed without a patient, and some days tow, being committed to Castlebar Lunatic Asylum. ---------- We have to announce that preparations for the grand bazaar and fete, in aid of the repair and improvement of the Abbey Church in Galway are in full swing. The Very Revd. Fr. Fitzgerald, the energetic Guardian of the Franciscans, is sparing no effort to push on the arrangements, and we are glad that the members of the Ladies' Committee are also working with commendable energy in the good cause. The Franciscans have been connected with Galway for many centuries. Their connection with that city dates back to the earliest days of its ancient prosperity. They witnessed the rise and fall of the trade and commerce of Galway, and they are with us yet. Before their estates were confiscated they owned extensive lands in and about Galway, but they were shorn of them, and consequently, like the Augustinians, they became very poor. That the Franciscans both in Galway and the county took an active and practical interest in public improvements is beyond question, and "The Friars' Cut" on Lough Corrib is an instance of that. It is a fine waterway and an indispensable facility for trade from Galway on the lake, and it is a great advantage to the steamers, tourists, rowing clubs and all who make use of the lake for business or recreation purposes. Works of maintenance and improvements have, of course, from time to time being carried out in the Abbey Church, and we hope the citizens will give the Very Revd. Guardian and the members of the Franciscan community every assistance in their power towards the Bazaar to raise a fund for the purpose of carrying out the repairs. ---------- William Kinnane, Curraghmore, aged 105 years was buried at Ballindine last week. The deceased was of robust frame, and retained a wonderful vitality until a short time before his death. Jim McNamara www.IrelandOldNews.com

I'm sorry the subject heading was rather long, and unfortunately I think my posting will also be so, for which, my most sincere apologies. As I said, missing, is one Henry GLENN - soldier, but this is where our problem starts!! Is GLENN his actual surname?? Facts:- Found in the 1841 census for Hacconby, Lincs. Sarah GLENN born out of England/Wales, with indications that she was born Ireland. Mary GLENN as above Elizabeth GLENN born out of county William GLENN born Lincs. 1851 census states that Sarah and Mary were born Lincs, and Elizabeth, Manchester, Lancs. A cousin has just recently found Sarah in the 1861 census, where she gives her birthplace as Heatfort (Headford?), Galway. Sarah's death in 1862, gives her as the widow bc1794 of Henry GLENN a soldier. Mary and William's marriage certificates state their father as Henry GLENN labourer. A recent trip to Kew has failed to find Henry GLENN, there was only a James GLENN, but that certainly wasn't him. My daughter has suggested that perhaps, the surname was changed, when living in England, as it was causing problems, perhaps doing as I thought, in the early days of my research, taking the name from the local river. So we were wondering, if anyone has come across a likely candidate for our Henry, possibly with a surname FITZ.... or could it be Mc......, or even O'........, or perhaps none of those. Yes, I realise he may not have been born Co. Galway, but as it appears that Sarah is from there, it has to be our starting point. As my husband's cousin states, we'll start anywhere, to bring down this wall that appears to be bigger and thicker than the former Berlin Wall!! ;-) Of course, if anyone, can at least take a little chunk out of that wall, he/she will be our friend for life. They will also have our most grateful thanks. Many thanks to everyone, that has read this little story, and hopefully, we might start to find out where he belongs. Frances in England.

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, August 23, 1824 REGISTRY OF FREEHOLDERS A Court for the Registry of County Freeholders commenced this day. Mr. St. George of Tyrone, it is thought, will possess the strongest interest at the close of the Registry. ----- The American ship Governor Tomkins, which left this place a short time since, has arrived safe at New York (all well), after a passage of fifty days. ----- Mr. Denis B. Potter, Attorney at Law, son of Lewis Potter, Esq. has been admitted a Proctor of the Consistorial Court of Tuam, after going through the forms necessary on such occasions. ----- FOUND IN the House of Mr. RICKARD BURKE, Publican, Abbeygate-street, during the late Assizes Week, A BANK NOTE.- Any person giving the necessary description of said Note, viz, its amount, number, endorser or endorser's names, &c, paying the expense of advertising, and giving a suitable Reward to the finder, shall have it restored. Application to Mr. Rickard Burke, at above. August 23d, 1824. NOTICE THE EXTENSIVE LANDHOLDERS and FARMERS in this COUNTY are directed to take Notice, that they will on application to Mr. JAMES M'DERMOTT, Town Gaol, Galway, receive Printed Returns of the Names of the Townlands, Parishes, &c, &c, &c, of this County, gratis, together with the number of Acres in each. The Grand Jurors and Magistrates are already supplied through the Post Office. JOHN O'HARA, Treasurer, Co. Galway. August 23, 1824 TO BE LET FROM the 29th September next, FOUR WELL ENCLOSED FIELDS, at Dangan.- Enquire at the Fishery Office. Galway, August 23, 1824. TO BE LET Lesse John Burke }for Six Months, subject to a. } redemption, the Lands of Ejector. } CHURCH-PARK, as lately -------------------}held by Walter Lambert, Esq. in the Barony of Tyaquin, and County of Galway. Proposals to Michael Dowdall, Esq., Tyaquin, Monivea. John W. Browne, Esq, Plaintiff's Solicitor. August 16, 1824. HIBERNIAN JOINT STOCK ANNUITY And BANKING COMPANY The Gentlemen appointed to allocate Shares for the County and Town of Galway, having forwarded the List of Subscribers to the Directors, beg leave to intimate, that the Undermentioned Gentlemen, being Subscribers, are nominated as a Committee to forward the interest of this National Undertaking. In order to give an opportunity for further Subscriptions, a List will be kept Open by them until the 29th instant. It is absolutely necessary to pay the First Instalment of 15 per Cent, and 10 shillings per Share for outfit, at the Temporary Office of the Company, 23, Dame-street, Dublin, prior to the 31st inst. JOHN O'HARA, JAMES LYNCH, JOHN & JAMES BURKE, DENIS CLARKE, RICHARD ADAMS, JAMES JOYCE, and JOHN IRELAND, Esqrs. Galway, August 23, 1824 Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, MAY 15, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY DIED STEPHENS - At her residence, Ballinderry, Parish of Cummer, on the 9th inst. Mrs. Stephens, relict of the late Mr. Michl. Stephens, and mother of Mr. John Stephens, of same place, deeply lamented by all her friends and neighbours. The remains were buried at Kilmoylan on the 11th. The funeral was large and representative. - R.I.P. MURPHY - On May 9th, Mr. Martin Murphy, of Curry, Parish of Cummer, after a very brief illness, leaving a widow and a number of children to mourn his loss. Burial attended by an unusually large funeral, took place at Cummer on Tuesday last. - R.I.P. ---------- PITHY PARS, - Personal, Parochial Provincial and Particular ---------- Mr. C. Mulvany, Co. Surveyor, told Castlerea District C___en that he was about to introduce the steam-rolling system into Castlerea and Roscommon. In reply to a Councilor, he said that it would not incur any extra expense on the rates. When shall it commence in Galway? ---------- Owing to the gates having been shut up, fishing on the Claregalway river has been satisfactory so far as the season has gone. Eleven spring fish have been killed by members, the largest about 23 lbs., being secured by Mr. R. Joyce. --------- The Recorder of Galway has adjourned to next sessions the consideration or the application by the father of the murdered constable Goldrick for £2,000 compensation for the loss of his son, stating that it would be desirable first to dispose of the capital charge brought against the two men named Michael Dermody and Thomas Hynes at Galway assizes. ---------- In Castlebar the new Technical Schools are fast nearing completion, and prizes continue to pour in for the bazaar to be held in aid of the new buildings. The project is a very deserving one, and will receive a large amount of support. ---------- We regret to announce the death of Mr. James J. Noone, Mount street, Claremorris, which occurred at his residence. The deceased some time ago contracted a severe cold, which developed into consumption, and when the first symptoms of the dread scourge made their appearance all available precautions were taken to save the young life, and Mr. Noone was sent to a sanatorium for treatment. ---------- Owing to the inclement weather of the first week of May mackerel fishing, which had promised such good results, has been entirely suspended. A week's enforced idleness at this time is a serious loss, not only to fishermen, but to numerous hands who await employment at packing, carrying, salting, &c. ---------- The marriage arranged between Michael P. Harding, National Bank, Roscommon, son of the late George Harding, Charleville, and Mary Bourke Wright, daughter of the late Rev. Canon W. Bourke Wright, M.A., of Athleague Vicarage, and granddaughter of the late General John Wray Mitchell, R.A., of Castlestrange, Co Roscommon, will take place in September. ---------- Mr. William Gladstone of Hawarden, who recently joined the Lord Lieutenant's Secretarial Staff, recently visited the West. He toured through the Congested Districts Board, who has done so much to promote industries suitable to, the congested districts, especially through the medium of lace and crochet classes. The tour included a visit to Benada Abbey, where a most successful lace industry is established, and to the woollen mills at Foxlord, where for 18 years past a successful woollen industry has been carried on. A number of centres where nurses working under Lady Dudley's scheme in connection with the Jubilee Institute are stationed were visited. The Aran Islands and other Islands were visited on the coast and villages in remote districts were also visited. ---------- The Spring mackerel fishery has already began along the Connemara seaboard. On Tuesday. 2th April, the take in Cleggan amounted to some seventy boxes of mackerel. Prices ranged from 8s, 6d to 11s per 126 fishes. The number of fishing nobbeys(?) falls short in the latter place of what one was wont to see yearly since its inception. This is owing to the fact that they are withdrawn to Roundstone and Bunowen. ---------- Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa