THE TUAM HERALD, TUAM, CO GALWAY, SATURDAY, June 19, 1909 CAUTION TO PUBLICANS AND OTHERS CHILDREN ACT, 1906 The above Act, passed 21st December, 1906, came into operation 1st April last, and is being put in force by the police as may be seen by the reports of Tuam Petty Sessions in last week's Tuam Herald. EXCLUSION OF CHILDREN FROM BARS OF LICENSED PREMISES Section 120 of the Act says: The holder of the license of any licensed premises shall not allow any person under the age of 14 years to be at any time in the bar of the licensed premises except during the hours of closing, If the holder of a license acts in contravention of this section, or if any person causes or procures, or attempts to cause or procure, any child to go in the bar of any licensed premises except during the hours of closing, he shall be liable on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding, in respect of the first offence, forty shillings, and in respect of any subsequent offence, five pounds. If a child is found in the bar of a licensed premises, except during the hours of closing, the holder of the license shall be deemed to have committed an offence under this section unless he shows that he has used diligence to prevent the child being admitted to the bar or that the child was apparently over the age of fourteen. Nothing in this section shall apply in the case of any child of the license holder or in the case of a child resident but not employed in the licensed premises solely for the purposes of passing through in order to obtain access to or egress from, that part of the premises not being a bar, where there is no other convenient means of access to or egress from that part of the premises or in the case of railway refreshment rooms or other premises constructed, fitted and intended to be used in good faith for any purpose to which the holding of a license is merely auxiliary. JUVENILE SMOKING Section 39: If any person sells to a person apparently under the age of sixteen years any cigarettes or cigarette papers, whether for his own use or not, he shall be liable, on summary conviction in the case of a first offence, to a fine not exceeding tow pounds, and in the case of a second offence to a fine not exceeding five pounds, and in the case of a third or subsequent offence, to a fine not exceeding ten pounds. It shall be the duty of a constable and of a park keeper being in uniform to seize any cigarettes or cigarette papers of any person apparently under the age of sixteen whom he finds smoking in any street of public place, and such constable or park keeper shall be authorised to search any boy so found smoking, but not a girl.

No K in the Irish alpha Is it, she asks, difficult to look for Kelly? before I even attempt it Josi You are all invited to the reunion of the clan McGeoghegan...not long now 5 weeks.... ------------------------------------- Volume 14 of my Newsletter is back on www.btinternet.com/~finty/ See if you can identify the mystery guests ------------------------------------------

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THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, June 12, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY ---------- HARRINGTON'S FAMOUS Potato Blight Preventative The First Spraying Powder Manufactured in Ireland, now excels all others. Renders the Plants impervious to Blight, improves the quality and quantity of the tubers, as essential to the Crop as Manure. Early Spraying most important. PRINCIPAL ADVANTAGES. 1. It forms a glutinous solution which adheres firmly to foliage, and will not wash off. 2. The solution being free from grit, does not choke the Sprayer. 3. The Solution is of uniform strength, and sprays evenly to the last drop. 4. The materials of which it is composed are guaranteed pure. 5. It always gives satisfaction if properly applied. 6. The cost is a mere trifle in comparison to the results obtained. 7. Manufactured at our works by skilled Chemists. Hundreds of Testimonials. SOLE MANUFACTURERS- HARRINGTON BROTHERS, Shandon Chemical, Color, Paint and Varnish Works, CORK. ---------- PITHY PARS. - Personal, Parachial, Provincial and Particular Last week a young man named Moran, son of a herd in the employment of Mr. M. McDonogh, Galway, was fired at from behind a wall on the public road at Ballinderreen, near Gort. Moran was in company with two other cyclists who were returning from Kinyara. There were, it is stated, about 200 pellets lodged in his left arm and back. He was treated by Dr. Foley, Ardrahan, and his injuries are not considered serious. The police are investigating the affair, but up to the present no clue has been obtained. ---------- The fishing season is now in full swing and anglers are anticipating a busy time. The May fly is doing good work and at Oughterard the average catches have been from 12 to 15 per day. Similar results were achieved on the Galway river. ---------- There is to be seen at Mr. Simmons' studio in Galway, a very beautiful coloured plane size portrait of the new Bishop. The delicate tints of the robes and details in the lace are very fine indeed. It shows his Lordship in full length. We understand photographic copies of this portrait can be had in all sizes from Mr. Simmons at 1/- each. The large one is to be drawn for at the forthcoming Spanish-Celtic Bazaar to which it is being presented by the artist. ---------- While on his way home from the fair of Galway, a farmer named Thomas Davan, of Waterfield, Annaghdown, met with a very serious accident. Sitting on his cart, passing a place in front of the horse, which caused the latter to swerve, and Davan losing his balance fell off the vehicle, which was heavily loaded. The wheel passed over his leg literally grinding it into a mass of pulp. ---------- The Mount Bellew roller-skating club rink is open on Wednesday and Saturday in each week from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. in St. Mary's Temperance Hall. Since its establishment, some seven or eight week's ago, it has been regularly attended by energetic skaters from Ahascragh, Ballinasloe, Tuam and Mountbellew, and the local districts. ---------- Near Athenry on the Persse estate recently a distribution of 800 or 900 acres of grazing land took place ; but the tenants have yet a serious grievance with the manner in which these grass lands have been temporarily settled. From what can be learned from the Estates Committee, it appears that the fundamental principle of giving the first strips to the tenants already on the property has been totally disregarded, and the tenants with small holdings of 3 or 4 acres have got none of the lands, which have been given to tenants on adjoining properties, and to others who have large farms. ---------- An old citizen of Galway, in the person of the late Mr. Denis Duvalle, died last week. He had for many years held a high position in H.M. Customs, but had retired on pension, and resided with his family at Sea Road. He was a familiar figure in Galway. ---------- For the fortnight ending 28th May the consignment of trout to the English market was 882 lbs., bringing the total for the four months to 4 ¾ tons. All the trout referred to in this and former reports are caught by fair fishing, trolling, casting or dapping, and are not netted, as lately stated through some mistake by a contemporary. Up to the 28th May there had been no run of "peal" reported in the Galway river, and none have been as yet caught at Oughterard. A pike was killed on the troll on 20th May which weighed 33 ¼ lbs., of the following dimensions: length 45 ins.; extreme girth, 23 ins. ---------- The salary of the incoming secretary of Mayo Co Council, has been fixed at 50p a year and 100p a year under the Cattle Diseases Act, and sometimes over 140p more for franchise work of Claremorris and Castlebar unions, together with fees under various heads that may shape out into a tidy sum at the end of the year. Compared with Galway, where the county secretary's salary and emoluments reach to close on 1,200p a year (Mr. Gordon Seymour being taken over from the Grand Jury, and with Roscommon, where the standing salary, without emoluments, is 170p a year, it may be said that the salary offered in Mayo errs on the small side, but as against this great possibilities have to be reckoned with, as in any scheme of poor law reform - and the scheme cannot be delayed beyond a few years - it is certain that a number of workhouses in the county will be done away with, and the sums received by the clerks of the unions for franchise work, etc., will then go to supplement the county secretary's salary. It has been decided, and we think very properly, to increase the staff of clerks and to make all the appointments direct from the Council. ---------- Father O'Flaherty's promotion to the pastoral charge of the ancient parish of Keelogues is, says a correspondent, most warmly welcomed, though the people of Castlebar naturally feel sorry at losing a rev. gentleman who has been such a long time with them, and whose zeal in the duties of the Sacred Ministry have only been surpassed, if we may so use the word, by his extreme humility and exalted charity. Not literally but actually he gave all he had to the poor; they were ever with him in his thoughts, and we may be sure that their prayers will go with him in his thoughts, and we may be sure that their prayers will go with him out from their hearts that he may be given many long years of health and happiness with the good people of Keelogues, and every blessing that can attend his work for their spiritual welfare. ---------- A learned correspondent says that among the old churches and graveyards mentioned in the State papers, he finds Cloondalgan Che. G., which still are clearly defined. This old relic of antiquity is now surrounded by a ring fence of very old trees, and local tradition says that clay was brought from the old graveyard to be used in the consecration of Addergoole burial ground, a few miles more southward. The last survivor of the De Bermingham family died in this place. The foundations of a church, associated in local history with St. Patrick, are to be clearly seen at Carrownaseer, near Dunmore, and a bullaun (?), i.e. a hollow stone, beside this ancient church is marked in the Ordinance Survey maps as St. Patrick's Stone. Tradition says it was used by the Saint as a baptismal font. Like Cloondalgan, this place is surrounded by trees, and it is said that clay was taken from the church grounds for the consecration of Dunmore graveyard. It would, therefore, seem that Cloondalgan and Carrownaseer were the primitive ancient churches in this locality. ---------- On the occasion of his retirement from Gort, where he had been stationed for 33 years, Mr. James G. Grubb, local manager of the National Bank was presented by his admirers with an address and purse of sovereigns. At the same time Miss Grubb was presented by Archdeacon Daly on behalf of the church choir with a number of dainty silver gifts. Mr. Grubb has recently removed to Dalkey. ---------- A special meeting of the Claremorris National Teachers' Association was held in the Boy's School, Claremorris, on the 15th. inst. The meeting was called to discuss the best means of having the compulsory clause of the Education Act put in force in the Claremorris Union. The following letter was read from his Grace the Archbishop of Tuam: - St. Jarlath's, Tuam, 30th April, 1909. Dear Sir - your letter of the 27th inst. was duly submitted to me after my return from visitation last evening. In reference thereto I have only to repeat most emphatically what I have already said so often, that the teachers have my entire sympathy and approval in their efforts to secure the enforcement of the compulsory clause of the Education Act, I earnestly hope that the Claremorris Council will accede to the very proper request of the local Teachers Association to have the change (?) put into operation as soon as possible in the district under their control - I am, dear sir, yours very faithfully, John Beaty, D. D., Archbishop of Tuam. ---------- The Gort Horse Show will be held on the Horse Show Grounds on Tuesday, July 20th, 1909, under the patronage of their lordships, the Most Rev. Dr. McCormack and the Most Rev. Dr. O'Dea, and under the Chairmanship of the Right Rev. Monsignor Fahy. ---------- Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa

Hi Debbie, I only have the 1909 and 1911 filming of the Tuam Herald in Galway County. I do however see the advertising for all the ships and where these are coming from, what Irish ports of arrival-departure and sailing schedule to where, along with the price. Since the ads are not directly interesting, most of us do not transcribe them. I transcribe one ad yesterday on a spray to prevent potato blight. BTW, where are your Woods folks from? Thanks, Jim McNamara In a message dated 5/13/05 11:01:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, IRL-GALWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I am wondering if you have ever found anything in the Galway papers regarding an immigration scheme to New Zealand in 1862. My G-g grandmother Catherine Costello from Galway, arrived on the ship "Pladda" in Port Chalmers, Otago, NZ under a scheme by the Otago Provincial Council to bring 1200 single young women from Britain as there was a shortage of domestic servants at the time. Catherine was not the only young woman from Galwayon board, so I am wondering if there had ever been any articles in the Galway papers from about July to November 1862 ? Thanks for any help. Debbie (Also researching Costello, Feeney, & Woods families from Galway)

Hi Dr. Jane. That's a great story! On a somewhat different tack, you've probably seen the statue of the Irish author, Padraic O'Conaire (Patrick O'Connor) in Eyre Square. I first saw a picture of it on a daily calendar that one of my daughters-in-law gave me one Christmas. Each page had a different picture of various Irish locales, people, etc. When I saw this particular page, I almost fell over. O'Connor looks just like my late brother, Frank!! I showed the picture to my sons and other relatives and asked who it looked like. They all said, " Uncle Frank". We have no O'Connors in our family...our Galway people were Tierneys and Divineys, but the likeness is uncanny. I've tried finding a "real" picture of O'Connor, but so far, no luck...just a picture of the statue. Thanks again for the story. Terry in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Jane Lyons<mailto:sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [GALWAY] A Photo story............. I thought this interesting seeing as how so many of you comment on similarities between photos you have and your living relatives.......>>>>

I am wondering if you have ever found anything in the Galway papers regarding an immigration scheme to New Zealand in 1862. My G-g grandmother Catherine Costello from Galway, arrived on the ship "Pladda" in Port Chalmers, Otago, NZ under a scheme by the Otago Provincial Council to bring 1200 single young women from Britain as there was a shortage of domestic servants at the time. Catherine was not the only young woman from Galwayon board, so I am wondering if there had ever been any articles in the Galway papers from about July to November 1862 ? Thanks for any help. Debbie (Also researching Costello, Feeney, & Woods families from Galway)

I thought this interesting seeing as how so many of you comment on similarities between photos you have and your living relatives....... One of the days this week, I was sitting beside a man in the NA and we got to chatting - he was over from England, visiting his sister at the family home and doing some resaerch. Anyway - he told me how it was that he got interested in genealogy - and I'm hoping to remember the details well enough to recount this - I'm fuzzy on a few bits During the last American Presidential Election, he happened to see a photo of George Bush on the campaign trail - in the same photo, there was another man. The researcher couldn't believe his eyes - the man in the photo was the image of his father. He cut out the photo and showed it to his wife and asked her who she thought it was, and she said his father - his father had been dead for twenty years! He knew some of his fathers brothers or his Grandfathers brothers had gone to the States. So, he decided to take the next step, he called the Newspaper and they knew the name of the man in the photo - he called some phone company in the States who told him that so long as the number was listed it was in the public domain and they could give it to him. Now, he had a phone number. He still wasn't too sure what he wanted to do with this info - so, he held on for a few months - then, curiosity got the better of him and he made the call - to Ohio. Sure enough, the man he called knew that his father or grandfather had come from Ireland, but he'd never done any research into his ancestry - they spoke for a while and realised they were related - and now, this man is busy researching their ancestry for the two of them There you go now - it can be a very, very small world that we live in! Jane

TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, JUNE 5, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY DEATH OF THE VERY REV. FATHER CONSIDINE, P.P. We deeply regret to record the death at the parochial residence, St. Mary's. Ardrahan, of the Very Rev. Thomas Considine, P.P., which occurred on Monday. The deceased clergyman was a most zealous, active and good-working pastor, and the splendid church of Ardrahan, the parochial house there and grounds and the efficient schools in the parish testify to his worth and are enduring monument of his energy and high conception of duty. He was a most popular man with all classes and greatly esteemed, being singularly kind hearted and well disposed. For some years he had been in failing health and was unable to continue to give that whole-hearted and thorough zeal to his work which always distinguished him. The Diocese of Galway loses in him a most excellent and good priest whose death is universally and deservedly regretted. The obsequies and funeral on Thursday testified to that universal esteem. R.I.P. ---------- DEATH OF MR. EDMOND O'BRIEN, TURLOUGHMORE. We regretfully chronicle the death at Coarse Park, Turloughmore, on Thursday, 26th ult., of Mr. Edmond O'Brien, Brother of Mr. Patrick O'Brien, merchant, of Tuam, in the eighty-first year of his life, to the deep sorrow of a large circle of friends. The funeral to Lackagh on Saturday was the largest witnessed in that district for a very long time. Chief mourners Messrs. Patrick, Edmond, and Michael O'Brien (sons) ; Mary Kate and Delia O'Brien (daughters) ; Joseph, Michael, and John O'Brien, John Connell, John Tieerney, Patrick Kennedy (nephews); Owen Creaven and Thomas Meagher (sons-in-law). The last prayers of the Church were recited at the graveside by Rev. James Heaney, P.P. ---------- CLERICAL CHANGES Rev. John Fallon, P.P., Knock, has been promoted as Canon and P.P. of Mountbellew; Rev. J. Corcoran, C.C., Newport, to be P.P. of Knock. The parish of Turlough, vacant by the death of Rev. T. Walsh, P.P., has been divided into two, to one of which Rev. Father O'Flaherty, C.C., Castlebar, is appointed P.P., and Rev M. Burke, C.C., as P.P. of the other. ---------- POST OFFICE CLERKSHIP At a recent examination of candidates for Post Office Clerkships (?) Master Patrick Murphy, youngest son of Sir John Murphy, Toll Farmer, Ruam, secured first place in ten and has got a call to Tuam Post Office where he is located for duty. The good Christian Brothers, under whose watch Master Murphy was prepared, are to be congratulated on the result. ---------- PITHY PARS. - Personal, Parochial, Provincial and Particular Mr. Cairns, C.E., has been entrusted with the preparation of plan and specification for a Town Hall in Swinford, to be built for a local limited company. ---------- Rev. Mr. Hannay, who uses the nom de plume "George A. Birmingham," has written another novel, said to be on lines similar to those of "Spanish Gold," which will be published by Messrs. Methnen during summer. It will be entitled "The Secret Charge," and will tell of comic adventures connected with an anarchist who settles on the west coast of Ireland in order that he may be able to manufacture his explosives in peace. ---------- The Ball in aid of the Co. Galway Stall at the Dublin Hospital Bazaar arranged to take place on Monday was unavoidably postponed. ---------- The posting premises held by the late Mr. Dominick Burke, Galway, has been purchased by Mr. Mark McGrath, of the Commercial Hotel, Eyre Street, who intends carrying on the posting business in an up-to-date manner. ---------- A sad drowning fatality occurred on Thursday last at Creggduff, about eight miles from Galway. A man named Thomas Small, who had for some time past suffered from depression, was found drowned in a deep drain a short distance from his own home. An inquest was held on Friday, and a verdict of suicide while temporarily insane was returned. ---------- In a case at Castlerea Quarter Session , in which a local trader, Mr. J. McDermott, sued a small farmer named James McNeill, for 21p 11s 4 d, principal and interest due on a foot of a promissory note, Judge Wakely, having spent four hours examining plaintiff's books, said between 1898 and the present date McNeill got, between goods, cash lent, etc, 67p 15s 7d, and he paid in cash 107p 5s 4d. What was against McNeill was not goods nor cash, but interest and compound interest, and, in his Honor's opinion, the man had been grossly defrauded and bilked. The action was dismissed on the merits. ---------- His Grace the Archbishop of Tuam administered Confirmation in the Parish Church., Louisburgh, on Tuesday and Wednesday, and in Clare Island on the following day. ---------- Mr. Thomas Brennan has just completed a steam draw plate oven, after the patents of Thompson and Co., Edinburgh, which is certainly a step in the right direction and quite in keeping with the spirit of improvement which has made the town of Kiltimagh so prominent in recent years. The oven is fitted with clock and thermometer, so that the time and heating can be perfectly regulated, and the old style chance work is done away with, while everything is done to guarantee absolute cleanliness. The bakery is fully equipped with machines for dough mixing, carrying dough, etc, and has a copious supply of splendid water. Mr. Brennan intends to turn out first-class bread and confectionery; and deserves the success which his enterprise certainly entitles him to. ---------- The "Mayo News" says - During the week, Mrs. E. C. Robertson, solicitor, Castlebar, on behalf of Miss MacEvilly, sister of the late Archbishop of Tuam, has had notice served upon the Rev Jeremiah O'Toole, P P, Kilmeena, nephew and sole executor of the Archbishop, that the validity of his Grace's will is to be contested in the Superior Courts that it was not duly signed by the testator in the presence of two witnesses. The names appearing on the impeached documents as attesting witnesses are those of the late Canon O'Dwyer, P. P., Dunmore, and Canon J. P. Cunning, P. P., Ballyhannis. Messrs. Kelly and McGonigal, solicitors, have been engaged by the executor in support of the will. ---------- The first issue of the "Connacht Tribune," a new Nationalist weekly newspaper, published in Galway, is a promising initial number of eight pages of eight columns each. Its local news supply is extemely full and diversified, the type good, and the printing very legible. Mr. William O'Malley, M.P. begins in the journal a series of articles entitled "Connemara Land League Reminisecnces." ---------- At the meeting of the committee of the Castlebar Branch of the Gaelic League, the Secretaries of the Feis announced that they had received a large number of entries for the forthcoming Feis in July. It was also stated that the Midland Great Western Railway Co. had expressed their intention of giving special facilities for those wishing to attend this important festival. The fare from Athlone to Castlebar (available for four days) will be only 3s 6d. Similar reductions have been made in fares from all the other stations to the Midland system west of Athlone, so that there will be no excuse in that direction for competitors and others wishing to attend. ---------- In Galway last week Very Rev Father Dooley presided at a meeting of the committee having charge of the arrangements for the reception of the delegates attending the forthcoming Technical Congress to be held in the latter end of June and the beginning of July. Mr. W. B. Grieves proposed and Sir James O'Donohoe seconded, a resolution appointing the Most Rev. Dr. O'Dea, Lord Bishop of Galway, chairman of the reception committee. The Hon. Sec. (Mr. C. J. Leaper) was directed to write to the Rev Father Dowling asking him to so arrange agenda as to permit the delegates to have an excursion on the Lake during one of the days of the Congress. Mr. Oldham, Dublin, has arranged to give a lecture on the Woollen Industries of Ireland, and Mr. R. J. Kelly, B.L., has expressed his intention of lecturing on "Old Galway." The lectures will be followed by a concert. - "Galway Express." ---------- What should prove a decidedly attractive fancy fete is to be held at Ballinasloe on Thursday, 17th June. The proceeds are in aid of the East Galway District Nurse Fund, a deserving institution which ought to command widespread public support. The attractions include a lawn tennis tournament, athletic sports, rifle and clay pigeon shooting, conjuring, variety entertainments, dancing, etc. ---------- The National Teachers in Roamuck parish have presented an address to the Rev. Redmond McHugh on the eve of his departure to take charge of the important parish of Clare-Galway. In his office as manager of the eleven schools in Roemuck the teachers always found Father McHugh most anxious to meet their interests, while the parishioners in general had in him a faithful friend who was always most zealous in their behalf. ---------- Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa

Dear Fellow Message Board Members, It has been almost 2 years since I made my announcement on the various message boards, this board included, that my book, "Green Is The Valley, Blue Are The Hills," was posted on the WWW for all to read, "Free Of Charge." Many of you are probably aware of the previous notification, but some of the newer members might not have known about it. For those who might be interested, the URN is http://fethard.com/crane The book is still and will be posted should you desire to take advantage of reading it. Since the time that I posted my original notice and people read my book, I have received many warm responses. A few of these responses included the question as to whether or not a printed and bound copy of the book was available. Unfortunately, I was forced to respond that no printed copy of the book existed other than what was posted on the web. Naturally, I felt quite disappointed in making this response. Well, I am happy to announce that my book will now be placed in print as I have contracted with a publisher to print and market my book. In order that I am not accused of "spaming" this board or any other board, I am requesting that you please contact me "off-board" at my e-mail address and I will provide you with the information for ordering my book. My e-mail address is tccrane@peoplepc.com As a brief summary I can tell you what my book is about. First of all, if anyone is looking for a list of names in order to complete their own family tree, you might be a bit disappointed. Although I do include a brief summary of my own family names, it is quite limited in the grand scheme of things. What I will tell you is that my book is the story or series of stories as to what I experienced in the search for my roots. What I found were trials and tribulations and the struggle that my ancestors made in order to overcome them. I also found strength and admiration for those who had passed before me and something in the form of self-discovery as to why I am able to enjoy what I have today based upon my ancestor's sacrifices. Interwoven within my stories are a series of poems that I have written to support the theme of each story. Also included are a series of photographs that reflect on the past as well as the present. So, if you should happen to read my book on the web, I can now tell you that a printed copy is now available if you should want one. Either way, I hope that you will enjoy my book. God bless, Tom Crane

Hi Jane, What a generous offer. I wish I could provide a parish name, but that's been my brick wall --knowing where in Ireland my ancestors came from. While you're sorting all this out, if you get to the point where you are looking at surnames, if you run into HOLAHAN or MCBRIDE, please keep me in mind. At least it would give me a place to start looking. Thanks so much, and best of luck to you in this huge project you're taking on! -Lori in Colorado On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:41:54 +0100 "Jane Lyons PhD." <sniliaghin@iol.ie> writes: > Which Civil parish in Galway is of the most interest to the greatest > number > of subscribers to this mail list? > > Just a parish name - that's all I need, no surnames, no bits of > family > history......... > > Well, you could call this a roll call - in which case - put the name > of the > civil parish first on the subject line, then the surname or surnames > that > you are interested in. > > In the body of the mail, put the parish name on the first line - > that's all > I'm going to look at for the moment. Below that, write what you know > about > your ancestor who left that parish - then, people interestd in that > surname > will be able to read what you have to say > > Please and thanks. > > Jane > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > Galway, City of Tribes: http://www.irishholidays.com/ggtest.shtml > Ireland GenWeb Co. Galway site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal/Galway.html > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC

Nice to know that! Do you find the history of the foundation of a school there.? Maire Brendan Burke <bburke@indigo.ie> wrote: Tim, The National Archives in Bishop St. in Dublin have files of Departmental correspondence about each National School in which you will find correspondence about the hiring & firing of teachers. ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== Join an Ireland list that discusses Irish genealogy, history, and culture. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online?

Tim, The National Archives in Bishop St. in Dublin have files of Departmental correspondence about each National School in which you will find correspondence about the hiring & firing of teachers. Have you already looked at them? Brendan Burke Dublin.

What year did National School System start? 1833. Pádraig (the Paddy that was) System firewalled with ZoneAlarm Pro, regularly caulked with Microsoft Critical Updates and scanned with AdAware and Spy Sweeper. System and outgoing e-mails scanned with automatically-updated Norton Antivirus 2002. And a hearty thank-you to those who take similar precautions and thereby prevent their address books from being hijacked and used to send me spam, viruses, worms, scumware and other undesirable stuff. -----Original Message----- From: IRL-GALWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IRL-GALWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Joynt Labath Sent: 07 May 2005 23:49 To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GALWAY] question for Cathy Joynt Labath about Galway newspapers : Have you ever run into any articles about the retirement or firing/hiring of teacher's in the county's local National Schools during the nineteenth century? : What year did National School System start? At any rate, everything I have read in the papers so far is transcribed and on my Ireland Old News website. I don't remember too much about teachers or the National School System. Sorry. Try a search on the website and see if you can come up with anything. Cathy http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== NETSCAPE questions or expertise???? mailto:Netscape-L-request@rootsweb.com To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Dear Tim Very interesting post. If you remember, I suggested that you might be wasting your time,as the records were now ALL available either on the LDS site or on Vital Records. I tried to replicate your search. I took the same quarter Dec 1870 and used MY extracted records for the sub-division of Arran. I had 29 births in total. I found 28 easily on the LDS site. The missing one was <female> Cheevers, parents Pat + Catherine. I also searched using the batch no. (C012206) ie. all the births on that particular film no.0101218. That birth was missing from the batch. However ALL unnamed births seem to be missing from the batch,or ,more accurately, there were no <male> or <female> births shown. I checked the Vital Records,and the birth WAS there, so I had my 29 total births. So I went back to familysearch.org and looked for your 3 missing names from Renvyle,and found ALL three of them. If you want to check , I found them listed as: Mary Anne CONRY Mary fitzSpatrick ( ie incorrectly spelt) Margaret HEANEY So,Tim, it must be worth checking one more film before you commit yourself to copying all 28. Once you have started ,it's very difficult to stop. I'm now on 1940...and that's a lot of films! ******* Going back to UNNAMED births: I jumped ahead to 1872,where I had another unnamed birth,and sure enough,I could not find it via the usual search on the IGI. Again,I went back to batch search,and this time ,the <female> WAS on the batch list,shown as O'Donnell <female birth> Nothing I did could bring it up via a regular search. I even typed "O'Donnell" into the "FIRST name" spot,leaving surname blank,and surprisingly,that brought up several names,mainly deaths, and none from the CIVIL REG, and not the missing birth. If I had to guess,I'd say they didn't initially know how to enter births where the child wasn't given a name. So they left them out of both the batch and the IGI record Then they may have decided to enter them in the batch,but still unsure how to cope with the IGI. Remember,this info was put on CD when computers were in their infancy for genealogy. I imagine,when they first went online,they simply copied the CDs straight to computer. When I first started using their CDs many years ago, ( and our FHC is still using the same ones-they have not been updated) there seemed to be many gaps in the Irish births,which then only went as far as 1871/1872. The VRecords 1+ 2 filled these gaps,and more recently,the website has got to 1880 (where I am sure it will stop,as they have not filmed 1881-1899). It's certainly been an interesting exercise. What is surprising is how inflexible the LDS spelling seems to be. You would certainly expect to find all variants of Fitzpatrick listed together,whereas Heaney/Heanue I can see as different names. My best advice is to always check the batch number,if you can't find the name where you expect it to be. Takes a bit longer,and you need to be a bit creative with your spelling! Regards Cathy

: Have you ever run into any articles about the retirement or firing/hiring of teacher's in the county's local National Schools during the nineteenth century? : What year did National School System start? At any rate, everything I have read in the papers so far is transcribed and on my Ireland Old News website. I don't remember too much about teachers or the National School System. Sorry. Try a search on the website and see if you can come up with anything. Cathy http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Hi Cathy, Have long enjoyed your posts from the Galway papers. As you seem to have read through many I thought perhaps you might help me with the following. Have you ever run into any articles about the retirement or firing/hiring of teacher's in the county's local National Schools during the nineteenth century? I'm wondering if the newspaper's might be an avenue for me to explore. Though my time will be very limited when I return to Dublin, should such a matter had been deemed newsworthy back then, I would take some of that precious time and devote it to a newspaper search as I have some specific dates. Appreciate your expertise in this matter, Thanks for all you contribute, Tim --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Hi Charlotee, "The National Library of Ireland", Dublin. Holds all of the microfilmed RC parish records as well as a lot more...they have an online site http://www.nli.ie/default.asp Check out "Family History Research" Good Hunting Tim CHenley29@aol.com wrote: I've read recently about researching at NLI. I'm not familiar with that and have not yet done much research on my family in Ireland. Please - what is NLI? Charlotte ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html Jane Lyons' From Ireland County Galway site: http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/galwayconts.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

I've read recently about researching at NLI. I'm not familiar with that and have not yet done much research on my family in Ireland. Please - what is NLI? Charlotte

Last Sept. when I was In Galway I didn't have any luck at the Heritage Center. I got 8 copies at the NLI which cost me 13 euros & took 5 wks. to get. I was told no one wants to make copies so you have to wait at least 3 wks. I want to go back even if it takes time to get copies. I'm searching for surname French in the 1600's Lillian