Looking for: O'Shaughnessy - My direct family was in Kinvarradoorus 1840s but will appreciate any info on any O'Shaughnessy anywhere in world any time period for one name study Halvey/Halvy - Funshin Beg and Funshin Mor Thanks Laurie

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 2, 1824 CATHOLIC FINANCE COMMITTEE Saturday, August 28, 1824 - KEALY, Esq, in the Chair EDUCATION. The following letter, addressed to his Grave the Catholic Archbishop of Dublin by the Coadjutor Catholic Bishop of Clonfert, having been mislaid for some time, prevented its being read until this day: - Loughrea, May 28, 1824. MY LORD - The difficulty which I experienced in procuring the necessary documents from the several Parish Priests of this diocess, prevented my complying sooner with your Grace's request. I have at length succeeded, and now feel much pleasure in forwarding to your Grace the following statement of the schools established in the diocess of Clonfert, in order that the same may be transmitted by your Lordship, with those of the entire Province, for the inspection of The Catholic Association. In the parish of Loughrea I established two free schools in the year 1818, under the patronage of the Countess of Clanricarde. We have at least 100 boys and 100 girls educated in those schools. The boys are taught reading, writing and cyphering. The girls the same, and in addition all manner of needle-work. As those schools are established on the most liberal principles, they were attended for some years by Protestant as well as by Roman Catholic children. Several of the respectable Protestant ladies of this town visited those schools at stated times, and in the spirit of conciliation, and truly christian benevolence, assisted their Roman Catholic sisterhood in giving instruction to the children, according to the rules of the schools, (framed by the unanimous consent of Protestants and Catholics.)- Every thing that could excite a suspicion of jealousy in the minds of either party was carefully excluded from the schools. No books of controversy allowed and the principles of their religion taught to each in their respective places of worship after school-hours. The Protestant children have, however, been withdrawn from the schools some time since, and most of the Protestant ladies have continued their visits, for reasons best known to themselves. All I shall say is, that we have never given them the slightest cause, by deviating from the regulations originally approved of by themselves. The schools are supported by the voluntary subscriptions of the inhabitants of every parish, by an annual charity sermon, and by a liberal donation from the Countess of Clanricarde. We have never received the smallest assistance from the Kildare-street, or from any other Bible Society. We are most particular in the selection of the books for the schools. Besides the free schools, there are nine others in the Parish, where 201 boys and 101 girls are educated, in all manner of useful knowledge suited to their respective stations in life. These schools are supported by the parents of the children. - There is a bible school lately established in this town but it is attended by few, if any, of the Roman Catholics. In Ballinasloe and Creigh parishes, there are eleven schools, containing 493 boys and 239 girls; of these 259 boys and 120 girls are educated gratis. The poorest are furnished with books and slates. The expenses are defrayed by the Roman Catholic Bishop and generously supported by the inhabitants of the town. The remainder is defrayed by the parents of the children. In Portumna parish there are three schools, in which are educated 270 boys and 150 girls. The rent of the town school house is paid by the subscriptions of the Clergyman of the parish, as also by donation of Lord and Lady Clanricarde. The master and mistress of the town school are paid by the weekly contributions of the scholars. The country schools are supported by the parents of the children. The books are, spelling book, speaker and catechism - no improper books allowed. The Kildare-street Society sent to the school, upon one occasion, a present of some books, to which there could be no objection but the Society never gave any other assistance. Clonfert, Meileck, and Eyrecourt Parishes - There are 10 schools, containing 560 boys and 260 girls. Of this number 143 are instructed gratis, in a school established by a Protestant bishop, of the diocese, on the most liberal and just principles, as the children are principally Roman Catholic, the catechism is taught every day by one of the Roman Catholic scholars, as the master is a Protestant - 140 more are educated in a free-school, supported by the subscriptions of the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Eyrecourt. All the rest are paid for by their parents. These schools receive no sort of aid from the Bible Societies. In Ballymacward parish there is one school containing 120 boys and 30 girls supported by the parents, and by ten pounds a year, given by Bernard Browne, Esq. of Mounthazel, to pay for the children of the poorest inhabitants of this parish. In Kirtormur and Laurencetown are four schools, conaining 195 boys and 139 girls. Of this number 120 are paid for by the subscriptions of the inhabitants, and by a donation from the Parish Priest, the Rev. D.O' Callahan. These schools receive no aid from the Kildare-street Society. - There are two Bible schools in said parishes, but attended by a single Roman Catholic child. The other schools established throughout this diocese, being exclusively supported by the parents of the children, and not requiring any particular remark, I deem it quite sufficient to set them down in the following order: Here follows a list of the several parishes, the number of schools and pupils, male and female - total 52 schools in 16 parishes - 1,938 boys and 853 girls. I hope this statement will prove satisfactory to that highly respectable, useful and enlightened body, the Catholic Association, and convince (if the would be convinced) the maligners of the Roman Catholic Priesthood of Ireland, that it is not their wish to keep their respective flocks in error or ignorance, and that if more has not been done, it is to be attributed not to want of inclination, but resources, in this our impoverished and unhappily divided country. After thanks to the Chair the meeting adjourned. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL GALWAY, MONDAY, AUGUST 30, 1824 CHANCERY. Hobson }Pursuant to an order made v. } in these Causes, bearing date Kelly & others }the 19th day of December last, I ----------------} will, on Monday, the sixth day of September next, at the hour of one o'clock in the afternoon, of said day, at my Chambers, on the Inn's-quay, Dublin, set up and let to the highest and fairest bidder, for three years from the first day of May last, pending the said first Cause, ALL THAT AND THOSE, the Towns and Lands of Ahane and Money Gormley, West Carrowntubber, Castletown, Cloonaconore, Corcullen, Curraghmore, and Lehuragh, situate in the Barony of Tiaquan and county of Galway, in the pleadings mentioned. - Dated this 24th day of August, 1824. THOMAS ELLIS. AHANE AND MONEY GORMLEY A. R. P. A. R. P. Arable and Pasture 294 3 13 Mountain and Bog 28 1 34 - 323 1 1 WEST CARROWNTUBBER Arabable and Pasture 151 0 15 Mountain Pasture 12 3 0 - 173 3 15 Bog 1?8 2 0 CASTLETOWN Arable and Pasture 250 0 35 Bog 9 9 15 - 307 1 0 CARCULLEN Arable and Pasture 122 1 20 Bog 101 1 0 - 223 2 20 CURRAGHMORE Arable and Pasture 140 1 29 Bog 52 1 26 - 201 3 9 LEHURAGH Arable and Pasture 67 3 10 Those Lands are situate near Moylough- The Grass has been preserved - the Tenant or Tenants will be entitled to charge the Persons who have Crops on the Lands a fair rent for the soil thereof. For particulars, apply to Messrs. Galway at Rockwood, near Galway, and No. 11 Summer-Hill, Dublin, who will show the Maps of the Lands and give every other necessary information on the subject. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

I came across a very interesting statement recently - and - I think, that those of you who have birthdates for your ancestors should bear this in mind. The statement was made in a Court of Law - an Assize hearing in October of 1845 in Co. Offaly (King's). A man called Martin Doran, being questioned by a solicitor as to an occurrence on some land that he claimed to be his. "Cross examined by Mr. Mitchell - I hold three acres and three roods of land ; I can't exactly tell my age; but I think I am twenty five ; I don't know who is the landlord of the......" I found the few words re his age very interesting. "I think I am 25" Do you? Jane

I found that very interesting Jane, my Grandmother, Delia (Bridget) Martin always told me she came to this country when she was 18 and that she arrived in 1898 in Boston. That would have said she was born in 1880. When I received records from the church where she had been baptized it stated that she had been born in 1875. The church sent me the dates of all her brothers and sisters dates also. On the US census of 1930 she lists her date of arrival as 1897! Oh well, I'm just thankful for her, whenever she was born! Mary Anne

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, JULY 17, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY ---------- MARRIED KELLY and POWER --- July 2nd, 1909, at St. Richard and Hubert Catholic Church, Haydon, Droitwich, Worcestershire, by Rev. Clement Gortwaltz, (with Nuptial Mass), assisted by Rev. Jopseph Dospital; Droitwich; Rev. P. Coleman, P. P., Ballyforan, and Rev. P. J. Shanagher, P. P., Ahascragh; D. J. Kelly, Dysart, Co Roscommon, to Frances Lucy, eldest daughter of William Power, T. C. (late H. M. Customs), dingle Villa, Droitwich. ---------- DIED SLOYAN --- On Thursday morning, of the effects of measles, James Joseph, aged 10 months, only son of Mr Thomas Sloyan, Bishop street, Tuam. Interment took place at Claretuam. Deep sympathy is felt for Mr and Mrs Sloyan on the loss of their dear little boy as evinced by the large and representative funeral that… [cut off from scan] ---------- PITHY PARS - Personal, Parochial, Provincial and Particular ---------- We notice in the "Financial Times" to hand that our townsman, James Blake Concanon, Esq, presided as chairman of the Anglo Argentine Tramway Co., held in London last week, and announced to the shareholders a very satisfactory state of progress in that financially large and well conducted undertaking. ---------- Mr Eraut of the Galway Grammar School has been appointed a member of the governing body of University College, Galway. Mr Eraut is an experienced and successful educationalist. He is son-in-law of our neighbour, Charles D. O'Rorke, Esq, of Clonberne Park. ---------- The solemn profession of Miss Agnes Walsh (in religion, Sister Mary Dymphna) has taken place at the Presentation Convent, Tuam. The ceremony was performed by the Most Rev Dr Healy, Archbishop of Tuam, assisted by the Most Rev Dr Higgins, president of St Jarlath's College. Miss Walsh is the daughter of Mr James Walsh, builder and contractor, Westport. ---------- Quite recently Mr John Moran, B E, son of Mr James Moran, Ballysteen, Co Limerick, was appointed County Surveyor, of East Galway. The Rathkeale Guardians at their meeting last week passed a resolution congratulating Mr Moran and the Galway Co Council in electing a County Limerick man. The resolution was moved by Mr John Fitzgibbon, J P, seconded by Mr John Hewson, and supported in a graceful speech by Mr T B Naughton, Clerk of the Union. ---------- An Irish class, which is free to visitors and others wishing to avail themselves of it, has been commenced by the Gaelic Organiser, Mr FitzHenry, in the Industrial School, Salthill, the Superior of the Christian Brothers' having kindly placed the class-room at his disposal for the purpose. ---------- Though hailing from the Black North, twenty-five years' residence amongst the people of Galway have convinced the Rev Dr Clarke that folks in this part of the country are good people to live amongst. Dr Clarke likes Galway, and the people of Galway like Dr Clarke. During his twenty-five years in the city he has gained for himself the popularity and respect of the citizens. Besides being minister of the Presbyterian congregation in Galway, he has held other important offices in the Church, and at recent General Assembly he was unanimously nominated to the office of Moderator. Last year he was appointed a member of the Governing Body of the Galway College, as well as a Commissioner of National Education. He is also a member of the city Technical Committee, attends its meetings regularly, and takes the keenest interest in its work. ---------- Mr. Joseph A Glynn, B A, The Chairman of the Galway County Council, was born in Gort in 1869, and was educated at Blackrock College, Co Dublin, where he gained prizes and Exhibitions in the Intermediate Examinations. In December, 1886, he was apprenticed to Mr Henry Concanon, solicitor, Tuam, and during his apprenticeship he took out his degree of B A in the Royal University as a private student. He gained the gold medal of the Solicitors' Apprentices Debating Society for composition, and a special certificate for oratory. At the final examination for solicitors' apprentices in October, 1891, he took third place and a special certificate for distinguished answering. In the same year he obtained one of the highest distinctions in the Royal University, the Chancellor's large gold medal for English prose condensation, the subject of the essay being "Edmund Burke." Mr. Glynn started practive in Gort in 1892, and was married in 1894. In November, 1895, on the death of the late Francis J MacCormack, of Tuam, Mr Glynn purchased the latter's house practice, and went to live in Tuam, where he has since resided. In 1899 he was elected County Councillor for Headford, which constituency he has since represented, and in 1902 he was elected Chairman of the County Council. Mr Glynn has been closely identified with National politics, and was offered the representation of North Galway on the death of Mr Thomas Higgins, an honour which he felt compelled to decline owing to his professional work. He enjoys a large practice at his profession being specially identified with land sales. Mr Glynn is also a prominent Gaelic Leaguer, and an antiquarian being one of the county secretaries of the Royal Society of the Galway Archaeological Society. Mr Glynn has been in great request as a lecturer, and his papers on Irish historical subjects have had wide circulation. The Catholic Truth Society published a pamphlet of his, entitled "The Irish Brigade." Other interesting papers were "A day in an Ancient Irish Abbey," published in the "Irish Rosary," and "Life in Ancient Ireland." ---------- A gun accident occurred in the vicinity of Cortoon, the victim being a married man name John Carty. While shooting he was crossing a loosely-built wall, which fell before him. The gun went off and the shot lodged in his hip. He was conveyed to the Workhouse, where he lies in a serious condition. ---------- As an instance of the manner is which the Budget proposals will affect licensed traders, the case of Tuam may be instanced. In Tuam there are at present about forty-eight licenses paying a duty of about 288p a year. This figure, if the new licence duty be put on, will be raised to about 480p, an increase of 193p, representing a capitalised value at 4 per cent of 4,790p. Mr Joseph L Dunne has been appointed Town Surveyor for Ballinasloe, at the salary of £ per yer, in the room of Mr J Hardiman, resigned, Mr Dunne for the last few months performed the duties of temporary Surveyor for the East Riding of Galway. ---------- MATTERS OF MOMENT ---------- There are several candidates for seat in Tuam District Council, vacated by Mr John Patterson, viz., Mr Oliver Ellis, Kinnickinnella; Mr Phillips, Carraculleen; Mr John O'Connor, Carrapadden, and though last not least, Mr Martin Connelly, president U I L Branch, Barnaderg, and a well known veteran in the National cause. Mr Connelly, we understand, is to be put forward by the Nationalist party of the Board, and it is the general opinion that he will be coopted by a considerable majority. ---------- That Tuesday's race meeting has proved a record success financially cannot be gainsaid considering that the turnstile registered over 4,000 as having passed --- 1,000 of them to the grand stand enclosure paying 7s 6d each. ---------- Feis Uibh Maine, held at Mountbellew on Saturday and Sunday last was a great success. The Very Rev Canon Fallon presided. Eloquent speeches in Irish were delivered by Dr Henry, Mr Patrick O'Malley, and other speakers of the vernacular. ---------- Another Race Meeting, we understand, will be held at Parkmore this year, on 2nd September. ---------- The Town Commissioners are advertising for the third time for a contractor to repair the Town Clerk's office, having received but one tender and that almost double the estimated cost of the work. All tradesmen in the town masons, carpenters, slaters, plasterers, glaziers, painters evidently have their hands full of work. This speaks well for the progress of the town. Everywhere about there are indications of improvement. ---------- A man named Keegan, a native of Cloondarone, Tuam, died recently in America, unmarried and intestate, leaving 4,000p which his brother, Michael Keegan, and three sisters, at Cloondarone, received a few days ago in equal shares, 1,000p each. ---------- On an adjacent townland, Killelane, a woman named Mary Fury and her daughter came in, not long since, for a windfall from Australia, close upon 2,000p, left by her brother who died unmarried and without making a will. The deceased left Killelane in the early sixties shortly after the clearance of half that village. If he had remained at "St. Helena" a name given to a quagmire bordering on the tillage land, on which he and a few others were allowed to locate themselves, probably he would have died a pauper. ---------- Land Sub-Commissioners Messrs R H Sheil (chairman), and Edward Mitchell, with Deputy Registrar, Mr R H P Ringwood, sat in the Courthouse, Tuam on Thursday, to hear some applications (8) listed from the Tuam Union. Messrs Concanon and Hosty appeared in the cases. ---------- A very regrettable accident occurred the race evening at Toft's swinging boats at the Potato Market. A young man of the town was precipitated to the ground from one of the boats sustaining thereby a fracture of the knee necessitating his removal to a Dublin hospital for surgical treatment. ---------- Michael Walsh and his daughter, residing near the village of Abbey, were arrested on Sunday last by Sergeant Hanrahan, of Barnaderg, for the larceny of 14p, 15s, the property of one Martin Curley, of same locality, and committed to Galway gaol on Monday on remand till 20th inst. ---------- The Tuam Town Clerk has received the following note from a Mount Bellew Bill Porter: "Send me 2s due to me for putting up bills of the Tuam Races. I think I am worthy of it. If I have not it before Tuesday I will summons you at once, so don't cause any trouble." Considering the big proceeds of the turnstiles on Tuesday the Race C. should be in opulence to relieve the Town Clerk of this urgent demand. ---------- At a special Court held on Wednesday before Mr H P Sheil, R M, three tramps were prosecuted. One, giving his name and address as John O'Connor, of Limerick, brought up by Sergeant Cain for being drunk and incapable, was fined 1s and costs; and two women, prosecuted by Cons. Conefry for begging in the public streets, giving their respective names and addresses as Ellen Brannigan, Monaghan, and Margaret Warde, Ballinasloe, were sentenced to seven days' imprisonment. ---------- The St. Jarlath Branch of the St Vincent de Paul Society gratefully acknowledge the sum of £5 toward their fund from Mr Patrick O'Brien, Merchant, Dublin Road, Tuam. ---------- James J. Corbett, the famous Irish-American pugilist: - the only boxer that ever beat John L. Sullivan - passed through Tuam on Monday en route for Claremorris. By the way, these two erstwhile champions are connected with Tuam district. Corbett is nephew of the late Town Clerk, Francis Corbett; and 'John L' is married to a Corofin woman. ---------- Toft's Hobbies have a roaring week of it in town. Coppers are shied in almost continuously, so that the boats should hardly contain them. Youngsters "beg, borrow, or steal" to have their ride and swing. ---------- Mr John C. MacDonnell was born on the 12th January, 1850, at Ballygar, Co Galway, where his father was a merchant farmer. Educated in the first instance at the local National School, Mr MacDonnell went to Summerhill College in 1874. Having finished his course there he returned to Ballygar. Subsequently he went to Dublin to study the law, but he was suddenly recalled owing to the illness of his late father. He remained at home assisting his eldest brother at the business. Mr MacDonnell took an active part in politics at the starting of the Land League, attending meeting every week in Galway, Roscommon, Westmeath and Longford. When the Land League was suppressed, and the National League sprang up he acted as secretary of the latter, and he was one of the most active promoters of the Plan of Campaign. He took part in several operations under the Plan in Galway and Roscommon with successful results. The Baggott and Pollock estates, which were bought over by the Estates Commissioners for distribution, show the good effect the agitation has brought about. In April, 1888, he married Mis Margaret Ferguson, of Windfield Lodge, Mountbellew, and niece of the famous Dominican preacher, Father Tom Burke. Mr MacDonnell was for some years a member of the Mountbellew Board of Guardians and in 1891 he came to live in Galway. He became a member of the Galway Board of Guardians the following year, and has remained so ever since. Out of the sixty-eight members now comprising the Board, only two were members when Mr MacDonnell first became a member. Mr MacDonnell has been a member of the Galway Board of Guardians since the Local Government Act came into operation. He is Vice-Chairman of Co. Council; Chairmane of the Finance and Proposal Committees; Chairman of the County Hospital Board; Deputy Vice-Chairman of the Ballinasloe Asylum Committee; vice-Chairman of the Technical Committee and of the Galway Board of Guardians; representative for Galway on General Council of County Councils; a member of the Executive Committee of the General Council; and representative for Connacht on the Standing Committee of Technical Instruction. He was one of the first to take an active part in connection with the Woollen Factory, in which he is a considerable shareholder, and no one worked harder than he to make the Technical Congress a success. Jim McNamara British Isles Family History Society - USA, Newsletter Editor http://www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL GALWAY, MONDAY, AUGUST 30, 1824 COUNTY OF GALWAY TO BE LET From the 11th of November next, The following LANDS, part of the Estate of A.J. M'DERMOTT, Esq. A. R. P. No. 1- The Lands of Cloughmore, rich Arable, Pasture and Meadow Land: 260 0 0 No. 2 - The Lands of Mount Ross, do, do, do, about 268 0 0 [Those Lands are in the Barony of Clare and Parish of Killieny, lies from one to two miles from Headford, one from Lough Corrib, and nine from Galway, by the New Road, the greater part of which is finished] No. 3 - The Farm of Carrowkeel, rich Pasture and Meadow 70 0 0 [ A House and Office lately built by the Proprietor] No. 4 - The Farm and Bog Park, do, do, two Farm Houses, &c. and a considerable tract of Bog and Waste, about 80 0 0 No. 5 - Part of the Lands of Loughturke, do, do. 76 0 0 [ A good House, &c. and a large tract of Bog and Waste] No. 6 - The Farm of Loughanbane do, do. 36 0 0 No. 7 - Part of the Lands of Ballooly, do, do. 37 0 0 No. 8 - Part of the Lands of Crossconnel, do, do. 6 0 0 Those Lands from No. 3 to No. 8 are in the Parish of Clontouskert and Barony of Clonmacnoon, are of the best description and lies from three to four miles from Ballinasloe, and from one to two of the new line of Canal, (now in rapid progress) from Shannon Harbour to that Town. The above Lands, in order to accommodate the Public, will, if necessary, be sub-divided. Proposals will be received, and long Leases and good encouragement given, to solvent and industrious Tenants, by the Proprietor, A.J. M'Dermott, Esq. Ramore, Loughrea. N.B. - The above Lands have been in the Landlord's hands for several years. Some excellent Old Upland Hay for Sale, and a few Thousand Ash, Elm, Beech, and Oak, from 15 to 20 feet high, fit for hedge-row planting, being strong and well rooted, and out of the reach of the Cattle to be disposed of. The entire Nursery which is a most valuable one, will be Sold at a valuation. Michael Broderick, the Gardner at Ramore, will receive proposals. August 30, 1824 Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

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Thomas STANEY <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_home.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="97"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/index.php">Home</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_search.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="325"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/searchform.php">Search</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_ind.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="124">Individual <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_ped.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="109"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/pedigree.php?personID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Pedigree</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_desc.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="114"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/descend.php?personID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Descendancy</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_rel.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="! 15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="230"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/relateform.php?primaryID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Relationship</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_time.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="90"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/timeline.php?primaryID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Timeline</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_ged.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="94"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/gedform.php?personID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea"> GEDCOM</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_edit.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="222"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/admin/editperson.php?personID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Edit</A> <IMG SRC="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/tng_log.gif" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="15" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="98"><A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/logout.php?session=PHPSESSID">Logout</A>Birth 1845abt @CO GALAWAY,IRELAND Sex Male Person ID I28013 <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/showtree.php?tree=MaChelsea">The Tri Town Tree</A> Last Modified 02 Jul 2005 | <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/admin/editperson.php?personID=I28013&tree=MaChelsea">Edit</A> Father <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/getperson.php?personID=I28014&tree=MaChelsea">Michael STANEY</A> Mother <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/getperson.php?personID=I28015&tree=MaChelsea">Mary SISKIN</A> Group Sheet <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F11895&tree=MaChelsea">F11895</A> <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/showtree.php?tree=MaChelsea">The Tri Town Tree</A> Family 1 <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/getperson.php?personID=I28012&tree=MaChelsea">Mary MCHUGH</A> Married 7 Apr 1870 CONCORD MA.,1ST BOTH,B.J.CANNEY,CATHOLIC PRIEST- Notes MARY MC HUGH M.THOMAS STANEY,VOL.227.170 ---------------------- Last Modified 02 Jul 2005 | <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/admin/editfamily.php?familyID=F11894&tree=MaChelsea">Edit</A> Group Sheet <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F11894&tree=MaChelsea">F11894</A> <A HREF="http://www.machelseafamilygroup.org/showtree.php?tree=MaChelsea">The Tri Town Tree</A> Notes MARY MC HUGH M.THOMAS STANEY,VOL.227.170 Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, Jim Donnellen. Doesn't matter that he was mainly a "net" friend. When you know and respect someone, the loss is all the same, and the grief that goes with it. You're a net friend, but wish I could give you a hug. Regards, Sheila

Margaret at tootsfoyward@yahoo.com writes: << Would appreciate hearing from someone with information on LISWAHERRICH >> Margaret, I'm going to assume that Liswaherrich is a placename and not a surname. I may have a possible (two, actually) townland to fit the bill. When I first saw the "Liswa", I was quite sure that someone read a written "n" as a "w", and the beginning of the townland name is Lisna. From there on, I have only one nagging letter-problem....... I think the townland name might be Lisnageeragh, but I'm not sure if the "g" after the Lisna could ever be pronounced as an "h" in this situation (as it would seem to be unlikely that the two letters could be mistaken for one another in script - although the letters are adjacent on a typewriter <gr>). I don't have any problem with the slight difference in sound between the "eeragh" and the "errich"........... just that g/h thing. In any case, there are two Lisnageeragh townlands in Co. Galway, less than 5 miles apart in the far northeast of the county. One is about one mile WSW of Ballymoe town and the other is about 3 miles ENE of Glennamaddy. That's the best I can do. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Our family is from the Rahoon or St. Nicholas Civil Parish - (Nun's Island and the Claddagh). Surnames: Hernon, Mogan and Canavan Nancy M.

What happens or what would happen if another Button published something great............... That's where my commenting on the year being important comes in. Not meaning to be argumentative here - but, sure you know me well enough at at this stage!!Ye all do :-))) It's not a generally acceptable thing that John's site is referred to as the 'Hayes index'............and me.... it was getting to me, before I ever saw him being referred to as Hayes, 'cos people were implying that he had all the Griffiths indexed - and - I just knew he hadn't, 'cos he says so. and, as you all know at this stage, I call a spade a spade. Regardless, Arthur - Is she home yet? How are the Chooks - I'm down to one kitten - 3-4 house cats, but one kitten :-) Hope you're well - not just saying that. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "arthur harris" <arthuri@alphalink.com.au> To: "Jane Lyons PhD." <sniliaghin@iol.ie> Cc: <IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com>; "IRL-LEIX" <IRL-LEIX-L@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-LAOIS-D@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com>; <CoTyroneIreland-D@rootsweb.com>; <Y-IRL@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [Y-IRL] John Hayes - Griffiths Valuation Index > G'day Jane, > I fully accept your point of view but will present an alternative one > which might take a little of the heat out of your chagrin over what you > see as a derogatory reference to an, obviously, great man.

I recently saw a query on a mail list to 'Hayes Index' of the Griffiths Valuation........... and in my own mind, I took 'umbridge' on behalf of the person who was being referred to as 'Hayes'. I have seen John (John Hayes URL: http://www.failteromhat.com/) : , being referred to by his first name on various mail lists - to see him referred to by only his surname and in what I considered to be a critical manner i.e. "Why didn't Hayes include such and such a townland" - a criticism may not have been intended, but that was how I read it - 'Hayes' had missed something - why?? On these mail lists, we all come from different countries, different continents - different worlds. My idea of manners may not exactly be the same ideas of extremely well mannered people in their own countries. It is very easy for any of us to insult another without meaning to, we follow etiquette as we know it to be in our own countries. We say things that are acceptable in our culture, but not in another. So, I'm not trying to pick on any person in this mail - it is going to a number of lists. I believe that no insult was intended by the person who commented on 'Hayes index' - and I believe that there is some misplaced belief amongst the International Genealogical Community that John Hayes has actually transcribed the complete Griffiths Primary Valuation Index for any parish he has listed on his web site - this is not so, and John clearly states that fact on his site. The transcriptions that John has on his web site are *EXTRACTS* from the Griffiths for whatever parishes he has listed. He may have the complete index for all Cork parishes, or maybe complete for some - and maybe for some other parishes in other counties for which he has a particular interest. However, John Hayes, does not have a complete index to the Griffiths valuation for all parishes listed on his web site - he says so. If, you check John's listing for any parish and find that the townland you are interested in is not listed, then, this more than likely means that John did not index that townland when he was working on that parish in whichever county it is. Etiquette - manners..........how we refer to people. In the International context, if a person has published an article in a journal/book - then, it is perfectly acceptable to refer to that person by their surname, *but* you give the year of the publication to which you refer after their name. So, if I was to publish an article in 1983, and again in 1995 and 2001 - if you were to refer to me as Lyons (1983) or Lyons (1995) ; Lyons (2001), then that is perfectly acceptable. Surname and year is all that is required. If I publish something on my web site - then, that is a different matter. Whether the material is original - a new transcription, or a Griffiths transcription, you cannot give a year, because you don't know the year that the page was put on the web - *BUT* you should give a URL - my home page or the URL for the specific page that you refer to. The same goes for John Hayes - he is alive, actively working on his site - he lives in Ireland. You should not say 'Hayes' without giving a URL for any reference to anything that is on his web site - or any other person's web site He should not be referred to as this anonymous 'Hayes' - he has an incredible web site, into which he puts an enormous amount of work - and regardless of whether he has indexed the townland that you are interested in or not, he deserves to be recognised by the use of his full name and the URL of his web site. Here (Ireland), to refer to a person just by surname and nothing else - that's derogatory. It doesn't matter who uses it or says it. Surnames on their own are most often used in boys schools, by teachers - not necessarily in a derogatory context, but in an "I am superior to you" context, "answer me, do as I say".............you are only your surname. A surname used by a group of peers is most often taken to be in a derogatory context. Snide, sneering 'O'Brien' did this or that - Would you look at 'O'Brien'............. When person is regarded as being a person - acknowledgment of being - one uses their first name, or a title - Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss at the very least It doesn't matter if it is a person off the streets..............an old person , a child............ You refer to them by first name, thus /respecting/acknowledging some respect of their self. Whatever a person's age, colour, achievements - they deserve respect of self. The majority of people in Ireland ( outside of the male teacher/pupil relationship) will always be mannerly and acknowledge any other human being with respect - unless they have cause to dis-respect that person, in which case they may use the surname only John Hayes is an Irish man, living in Ireland, who has created one of the best web sites coming out of Ireland - that those who seek their Irish Ancestry use. I do not know John Hayes personally, but I have admired his site, we have communicated once or twice on different occasions over the last few years. I apologise for the length of my mail - I apologise to the list managers of whichever lists I send this to - however, I do believe that those of you who seek your ancestry do need to understand that sometimes, you might say something that you consider to be perfectly acceptable in an email, that Irish people do not think acceptable. As I have already said - I am not trying to 'fight' with anyone, I don't believe that any insult or harm was intended by the original poster - but I do think that maybe you should know that here in Ireland, we don't call people by their surname (generally) unless we are being derogatory. Shoolchildren and Engineers are the only groups for which surname usage would be common. Jane

Y'know, here in Ireland, when someone dies, we go the length and breadth of the country to the funeral - it might just be the removal the night before - it might be the parent/uncle/cousin of a friend - but we go............... We may not stay for the refreshments afterwards, unlike what the rest of the world thinks, we don't totally drown ourselves in alcohol at removals and funerals - but we do go to them. A friend of mine died last Friday. His name was Jim Donnellan. James L.Donnellan to be exact from Fullerton, CA I met Jim and Beverly his wife a few times when they were over here - we'd go to Pasta Fresca for a meal - or else we'd meet there, and then to the pub for a few pints afterwards.......... The first time I ever met them, that was in the National Archives, we'd arranged to meet there - what struck me most about this couple was that they were so much in love, I couldn't believe that they had been married for over twenty years when they told me Y'know what's really getting me here now - Jim was a net friend - he lives in another country - another world. In my own world, I can go to a funeral and say goodbye - in this internet world - I can't. The best I can hope for is that someone will tell me if someone I have come to care for passes away............. How can you mourn someone, know their gone, when you aren't there?!! I don't know. Jim had a Donnellan web site and he was ever so proud of it. He wasn't researching his direct ancestry, but the Donnellan surname in Ireland, so, it could help anyone. He came over so often, he was so engrossed in Donnellan research, I think it is one of his sons who set up this site, and he did have an earlier site - he went through manuscripts by the dozen. The day I first met him, he was sitting at a table in the National Arhives with this box of manuscripts open in front ofhim, Beverly his wife - she was off doing something else........and joined him He has some nice photos of Ballydonnelan, Galway on his web site if Galway people would like to see them and are not interested in the Donnellan surname Jane Jim's URL http://www.ballyd.com/ and a note from his web site Jim Donnellan is a proud Donnellan, loving husband and father of four children. Jim has been researching his ancestry for the past two decades, and aggressively for the past three years. Most of his research has been through the internet and recent trips to Ireland. His passion for genealogy is reflected in this web site.

Sincere sympathy to you, Dr. Jane, on the loss of your "net" friend, Jim Donnellan. You've paid a fine tribute to him...and I think you were there...if only in spirit. Terry Bora Michigan USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Lyons PhD.<mailto:sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: [GALWAY] A friend gone - Jim Donnellan <<<<A friend of mine died last Friday. His name was Jim Donnellan. James L.Donnellan to be exact from Fullerton, CA>>>>> <<<<Y'know what's really getting me here now - Jim was a net friend - he lives in another country - another world. In my own world, I can go to a funeral and say goodbye - in this internet world - I can't. The best I can hope for is that someone will tell me if someone I have come to care for passes away............. How can you mourn someone, know their gone, when you aren't there?!! I don't know.>>>> Jane Jim's URL http://www.ballyd.com/<http://www.ballyd.com/>

Hi Kathy, Forgive me--I thought I noted the location in my posting---I THINK it's adjacent to St Mary's Church and behind the old Piscatory school on the Claddagh Quay before Salthill. No one has answered yet who knows about this West Convent Archives... I read the book "Dominicans in Galway" at the New York Public Library. The years fall in line with my mob as well...my grandfather actually lived in the old schoolhouse next to the church....his backyard would have been the cemetery (actually it's quite small)....THUS I am MOST interested in finding these records. When I visited in 2000 the church told me there were NO records kept....I'm not sure if I have the right cemetery in mind but I'm pretty sure I do as the locals referred to it as the "Claddagh graveyard". If I find anything out I'll let you know. Nancy --- KPW114 <KPW114@aol.com> wrote: --------------------------------- Hi Nancy, I am very interested in the book Dominicans in Galway, I have relativesthat were part of the Claddagh, I would love to know the answer towhere is the West Convent Archives at? How did you come to find thebook Dominicans in Galway? The Claddagh Cemetery Book 1843-1881 wouldfall right in line with my family line. Where is that Cemetery at? Iknow of Rahoon and Barna Cemetery and I know there is one, can'tremember where the other was was quite large and old maybe close to theSalthill area of Gallway. Kathy NYC Irish Research Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

My family is Martin/Feeney of Ballnabucky Co Galway. It is near Kilcolgan

Hi Jane, Townlands of Cluggam, Farnaught and Drumsnav (all near Maam). Family names of Butler, O'Halloran, Fox and O'Connor. thanks, Kay Andrews

BUSHY PARK is the townland. Time frame is 1860 onward. Names are KELLEHER/KELEHAN, Mary MELODY, MAGUIRE. I have some information on the KELLEHER/KELEHAN and MAGUIRE families but nothing on the MELODY family. Any help would be welcome. Bern Connelly GA