Hi, Can anyone identify this townland please - Ballenecraggy ? John Lopdell of Athenry m. Elizabeth, sister of Thomas Faircloth, of Ballenecraggy, Co. Galway. (circa 1760). At a guess it might be in the area near Gort or Athenry ? Thanks, Declan

Helen at hoconn@comcast.net writes: << "Ballygar," which is not far from the Rosscommon border. However, I do not know what Civil Parish, Barony, PLU or Diocese Ballygar is in, so checking information is difficult. >> Helen, Ballygar, as you mentioned, is only 2 miles from the Roscommon border. It is in Killeroran civil parish, Killian barony, Mountbellew PLU, Ballygar (Killian and Killeroran) RC parish, Diocese of Elphin, and the local RC church is known just as "Ballygar Church". - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Everyone seems to be doing a roll call so I'm adding my names: Michael O'Malley born somewhere in Galway in 1851 Parents Michael O'Malley Sr. and Mary King? May have been one of 13 sons. Don't have any idea where the family lived in Galway or the name of a parish. D. Pitezel St. Louis, MO

Looking for any information on the ancestry of John O'CONNOR and Nancy BURKE. I believe they were married in the 1820's in Galway as 2 of their 6 children's death information state they were born in Galway, but I have no idea where in Galway. We think John O'Connor came to Galway from French Park, County Rosscommon as information passed down was that was where the O'Connor's came from. Our only clue as to where in Galway is a picture taken by San Francisco descendant John C. O'Connor in 1908 only labeled "Ballygar," which is not far from the Rosscommon border. However, I do not know what Civil Parish, Barony, PLU or Diocese Ballygar is in, so checking information is difficult. John and Nancy (Burke) O'Connor had 6 known children: (1)Julia, the first to come to the US, married Patrick Collins and resided in New Haven, CT, no surviving descendants, (2) John Burke O'Connor, arrived in USA 1860, lived in CT, NV and San Francisco, age has varied in the US records giving birth from 1830-1838, mar. Maria Jane MEEHAN, also of County Galway, 1872 in Nevada, has descendants (3) William O'Connor, may have been in Hudson, New York, New Jersey and Los Angeles, had sons that died young, don't know if any children survived, (4) Dominic O'Connor, b abt 1841, lived in CT, AZ and Los Angeles, d before 1910, mar. Fannie McLaughlin, may have surviving descendants through his daughter Eileen and son Joseph, (5)Patrick O'Connor, lived in New York City, mar in England, had Julia, John and Willie and it is unknown if there are descendants (6) James O'Connor, b abt 1829, d 1882 Hudson City, New York, mar Mary Cosgrif, had a daughter Anna and a son that could have descendants. Nancy BURKE had a brother, unknown name, but his daughter and 3 sons came to the USA. They were Julia Burke, b 1842 in Ireland, mar M. Clark in Louisiana, lived in Cairo, Illinois, has descendants; Thomas Burke, unknown hometown in the US, but he was here; Richard Burke, b abt 1850 in Ireland, mar. Margaret, lived in Missouri and Kansas, had 4 known sons; Patrick Burke, he was in Missouri in 1885, not known if he had descendants. Would really like to find where in Galway this family came from and would love to find any other descendants of the O'Connor-Burke union. Thanks, Helen O'Connor Park City, UT, formerly SF Bay Area husband is a descendant of John Burke O'Connor

THE TUAM HERALD, SATURDAY, AUGUST 14, 1909 TUAM, CO GALWAY ANOTHER BLAKE “WINDFALL” According to the “London Star” a very curious story attaches to the announcement that another Blake fortune has fallen to the Treasury by the death of Mr Fred K Blake, of Broadfield Lodge, near Crawley, who died on 6th May, intestate, and a bachelor without known relative. Although this estate is not so large as the more famous Blake millions which have interested so many, it reaches the respectable total of £43,000. It is certainly curious that this intestate should be related to the famous Mrs Helen Blake, whose fortune also went to the Crown. The romances of these two “windfalls” begins with General Robt. Dudley Blake, son of General Sir Francis Blake, second baronet, who belonged to an old Northumbrian family. The held Twissel Castle, and in Durham, Tilmouth, and Segrill in Northumberland, and were very rich. While he was Captain in the Army, Robert Dudley Blake met in Dublin a beautiful Irish girl named Helen Sheridan, the daughter of a country schoolmaster. He fell in love with her, and had her educated in England, and married her in Lanarkshire in 1819. Their only child died in infancy, and left it all to his widow when he died in 1860. In the same year his brother, Sir Francis Blake, third baronet, died without legitimate issue, and the baronetcy became extinct. Sir Francis also left considerable property to his sister-in-law, Mrs Helen Blake. This lady died at Earlscourt terrace in 1876, and at the age of 76, without making a will. Her real estate was worth about £30,000, and the personal estate to about £119,000 more. The whole of the personal estate was seized by the Crown, and next-of-kin advertised for. But no one of the claimants who came forward from Ireland and America could satisfy the Court of Chancery that they were next of kin, and £24,000 having been spent in costs, the personal estate amounting to £140,000 remained in the hands of the Crown. In the district of Claremorris there are still Sheridan’s who claim to be related to Helen Blake, but they are too poor to push their claims. The second Blake intestate comes in this way : Sir Francis Blake, the third baronet, had several children to whom he bequeathed considerable sums at his death in 1860. One of them was Mr Fred K Blake, who has just died at Crawley. He was formerly an officer in the Army, and was never seen in the North of England, though he owned the Seghill estate of 400 acres, on which the Leycocks works their colliery. There was a rumour on the Tyneside that some poor relatives intended to claim the personal estate, which is valued at £43,000, but nothing has been heard of it in the Courts, and letters of administration of his property have been granted to the Solicitor to the Treasury, and his successors in that office “for the use of his Majesty.” The Seghill colliery and the landed estates pass to the deceased’s kinsman, Sir Francis Blake, first baronet of the 1907 creation, whose family bought the Seghill Park and other Northumberland estates from the Crown when Mrs Helen Blake died intestate. Altogether, the Crown has reason to be grateful to the Blakes for their “windfalls.” ---------- DEATH OF MRS. KELLY, COROFIN. Lasat week, at Cooleesk, hard by Corofin Lodge, in the parish of Cummer, died a member of a local old stock, Mrs Mary Kelly, relict of the late Mr Wm. Kelly, who had been gardener at the above-named lodge to the Cregg Castle Blake Family. Hale, hearty and enjoying all her faculties unimpaired to the end, she had attained a ripe old age, during which she was greatly liked and respected throughout the parish. Fortified with the last rites of Holy Church she passed away early on Thursday morning, 5th inst, as serenely as a child to sleep. The announcement of her death was received with deep regret by everyone that knew her. The funeral to Cummer Old Church on Friday was one of the largest seen there for many a year, consisting as it did of over 69 vehicles besides saddled horses and pedestrians. The chief mourners were – Michael Kelly, Mrs Glynn, Mrs Keedington, (children of the deceased) ; William Kelly, Thomas Kelly, Michael Kelly, Mary Kelly, Norah Kelly, Maggie Kelly, John Kelly, Brian Kelly, etc, William Glynn, Thomas Glynn, Ellen Glynn, John Reddington and Michael Reddington, (grandchildren); John Shaughnessy and John Gylnn (nephews); Honoria Mannion (niece); Mrs Kelly (daughter-in-law); Denis Glynn and Patrick Reddington, (sons-in-law). Other relatives: Pat Mannion, Bridget Mannion, John Shaughnessy, Patrick Varden, Mrs Hession, Pat Hession, Mrs Lardner, John Lardner, Denis Glynn, Michael Glynn, Edward Delany, Patrick Walkeen, Denis Walkeen, Bridget Walkeen, Brian Feeny, Mrs Feeney, Patk Glynn, Mrs Glynn, Michael Murphy, Thomas Glynn, John Murphy, Margaret Murphy, Bridget Nestor, John Nestor, Martin Corcoran. John Coen, Mary Coen, Patk Connolly, D C ; Pat Mannion, Mrs Greany, Mrs Furey, etc. Amongst the general public present were – Rev Father Fau (not readable) … long list of general public… some of list is not readable. May she rest in peace. ---------- PITHY PARS. – Personal, Parochial, Provincial and Particular In the Honour List of the Summer Examinations in First and Second Arts, just published, we notice that Galway University College has secured five first-class distinctions, besides eleven second class. Considering the return from other colleges, this record is a very credible one, and speaks well of the merits of the pupils of the Queen’s. Cork scarcely shows on this list. ---------- We regret to announce the death of Miss Celia Lally, Kirwan’s avenue, Galway, sister to Rev P J Lally, St Joseph’s Church. Deceased was organist of the Dominican Church, and her demise is sincerely deplored by all classes. ---------- The Rev O. Hannon, C C, and Rev J Prendergast, Tuam, were amongst the clergy who left Westland row last week with the delegates of the Catholic Young Man’s Association. They are representing Ireland at the Eucharistic Congress which opened at Cologne on Wednesday week last. The pilgrims returned on the 9th inst. Father Eaton; of St. Jarlath’s, preached an Irish sermon in Cologne – the first ever heard here for centuries. ---------- It is scandalous to find that when returning from the Galway Races, Patrick Conlon, of Kilcolgan, when approaching Clarenbridge was actually fired at. Conlon was wounded in both legs, and the horse was struck in the neck. The animal became restive and proceeded along the road at a rapid pace. A police patrol in the vicinity soon afterwards came across the injured man and had him surgically treated. The local Constabulary authorities are investigating the occurrences with the usual results. The injured man is at present under treatment in Galway County Hospital. ---------- The water supply for Athenry is still the trouble that it has been for years past. The Loughrea District Council will not spend a penny on the procuring of water for such an important town unless Athenry is prepared to pay for it, and although the District Council know well they have no power to fix an area of charge, yet they refuse to rectify the matter. It shows at all events that the Loughrea Council have no desire to do much for Athenry. ---------- An extraordinary high price in land sales has just been paid for two acres of land, with a home attached, at Caheravoola, Cummer. The holding, which was sold by Mr Patrick Canavan, auctioneer, Tuam, was bought by Mr Varden, Anbally, for £150. The vendor was the administratrix of the late Mr Michael Comber. ---------- The Tuam Races (autumn meeting) have been fixed for September 2nd. The entries for the different events closed on Wednesday last. It is only necessary to mention the success of the July meeting to show that the forthcoming fixture will add to the growing reputation of Tuam as one of our leading meetings. ---------- Mrs Flaherty, who with her family of four children were evicted from their holding at Mountross, Headford, took forcible possession of the holding the following day. The matter was reported to the landlord, Mr McDermott, by the police. ---------- It is a pity no steps are being taken towards erecting a ball alley in Tuam. There is in the town splendid material which, if afforded the opportunity, would develop into ideal exponents of the game. For the past few weeks some splendid games have been witnessed at the College ball alley, which is largely utilised by the young men during the vacation season, through the kind permission of the Rev President. ---------- The most interesting handball contest that ever was brought off in the West of Ireland will come off at the great tournament organised by the Athenry Handball Committee on Sunday, August 29th. All the great exponents of this grand old game in the country presently have promised to attend, and some fine games may be expected. The committee have left no stone unturned to make this tournament a success. They are offering three beautiful gold medals to the winners, and three very good silver medals to the runners-up; and the Athenry ball court has undergone a special course of preparation for the event, a large amount of money having been spent upon it. The rubber is to be the best of five games, and teams to consist of three players each. All entries close with the Hon. Sec, Mr L Lardner, Church Street, Athenry, on Wednesday, August 25th. Entrance fee, 5s, each team. We understand that a team from Tuam will compete at the handball tournament and will be represented by J. Sheehy, M. Flannelly and M. Hession. ---------- About twelve labourers cottages are now on the way to completion here, and taken in conjunction with the new houses built on the grazing ranches recently distributed amongst the tenants, they materially improve the appearance of the district, and are a striking example of the great changes almost unnoticed are daily taking place around us. ---------- A correspondent says that widespread regret is felt through Headford district at the transfer of the Rev E Higgins, C C, to Glenamaddy. During the years he laboured there he endeared himself to all classes, rich and poor alike. He was a splendid example of the “Soggarth aroon” – all things to all men - his bright, genial, and unassuming manner made everyone his friend, and brought a message of hope and comfort and encouragement to the homes of the poor, who in an especial manner experienced and appreciated his goodness of heart and hand. The best wishes of the people for his future happiness and welfare go with him to his new field of labour. ---------- Mrs J Ruttledge landed four salmon of 12, 8, 8, and 7 lbs in the Corrib. Mr Wanklyn had six salmon, weighing 64 lbs, one of these fish being landed, thanks to another, which, when disturbed, left its prey disabled, but alive, in the water. The total bag is twenty-eight salmon, all killed with the fly, and also a number of sea trout. ---------- During the past week some fine bags of sea trout have been made on the Erriff and its lakes by the Hon Robert Dillon, Mrs De La Poer Beresford, and Mr William Frost – one basket each, fish weighing over 16 lb. Eight salmon were killed during the week with the fly. A very wet July, and a big run of sea trout and summer salmon. ---------- The newly appointed secretary of the Mayo Co Council, Mr Jos T Kelly, entered upon his new duties on the 1st inst. Mr F H McAndrew, who had been discharging the secretarial duties, with credit to himself and profit to the Council, during the past twelve months, has left on a months vacation. ---------- In an interesting anniversary number, the “Catholic Press” boasts that during its 25 years of existence, the Catholic Press, Limited, has done a fair share to diffuse its disciples over the British Press. One of the ablest young fellows who came their way was Mr Thomas Scanlon, who has lately come into national prominence in connection with bicauditure for Sligo. Another Western who found his footing in journalism in connection with their papers was Mr J J Moran, the celebrated Irish author. And still a thrd [third] promising youngster who came from the province of Connaught, was Mr Walter B J Conway, who is now the Editor of the “Schoolmaster.” Mr Conway also began his career in British journalism in our Glasgow office, where he did some very smart work, notably in connection with the exposure of the “White Nun” fraud, an epistle terminating in the imprisonment of the lady who had been posing as an ex-nun without any claim to that title. Leaving Glasgow Mr Conway went South, and for a time conducted our Bolton paper. Eventually drifting to the Metropolis, he became associated with Dr Macnamara, M P, in the production if the “Schoolmaster” and when that distinguished Irishman was obliged, by the acceptance of Ministerial office, to relinquish the direction of England’s leading educational newspaper, Mr Conway, who had been his auxiliary Editor, stepped on the bridge himself and still adorns the position. ---------- Jim McNamara Jim McNamara Searching: McNAMARA-McGRATH, CLEARY-CONWAY, HANNA(H)-BRADY-McCORMICK-THOMPSON-CAIN-WAUGH-DAVIS-HUNTER

Hi I am not researching these names, just passing them on to the list. Marriage took place in Montreal. Sheila, Ont. St. Patrick's, Montreal, Nov. 26 1861, marriage -M164 Michael Cloran, saloon keeper, of this parish, son of Patrick Cloran, and of dec. Mary Burns, of Co. Galway, Ireland. TO: Susan Rosaline Clarke, daughter of James Clarke, trader and of Susan, McGuire, of this parish. Wit: Joseph Cloran, James Clarke

Hi Just passing this marriage on to the list - it took place in Montreal Sheila, Ont. St. Patrick's, Montreal, Feb. 11 1861 M30 Thomas Brennan, son of dec. Patrick Brennan and of dec. Bridget Phelan of Co. Kilkenny. TO: Margaret O'Flaherty daughter of dec. Martin O'Flaherty, mason, and of dec. Julia O'Hara of the City of Galway. Wit: John Harrington

I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and Occupiers as listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation for the Civil parish of Ballindoon, Co. Galway. The list can be accessed by clicking on the links below. There is more information on the Griffiths than just the name of the townland. Each entry tells you the type of 'tenement' leased and it's value. Sometimes, when a person is listed more than once, they may be leasing land in one area and a house in another, or, they may be leasing land and a house inboth places, but sub-leasing one of the houses to someone else. So, if any person on either of the lists I am sending this to would like the extra bits of information, then I can pass it on to you. The only thing is, that with one of the common surnames such as Coneelly, I would not be able to pass on all information re all Conneelly's listed in the parish, you'd have to be specific as to the townland. With unusual surnames, I would probabaly pass on all information for that surname anywhere in the parish. Jane Ballindoon http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/gal/ballindoon.htm

I am just passing this info on to the list. Sheila, St. Patrick's, Montreal, Feb. 14, 1860 - M26 David Lawless, servant, son of Michael Lawless, dec. and of Ellen White, of Co. Galway TO: Bridget McDermott, daughter of Bernard, McDermott, servant in the Custom House, and of dec. Catherine Fitzmaurice of St. Patrick's, Montreal.

Hi I am not researching these names, just passing the info to the list. Sheila, Ont. St. Patrick's, R.C., Montreal, Jan. 9, 1860 Patrick Larkin, bricklayer, son Patrick Larkin and of Honora O'Donnell of St. Patrick's. TO: Bridget Gannon, daughter of Patrick Gannon, (dec), carpenter and of Mary Kane, (dec) of Co. Galway, Ireland. Wit: John Thornton.

Marguerite at james.agnew@att.net writes: << Omey Civil Parish, town of Attigoddaun >> Marguerite, I think I can help you with this - especially regarding your trip there. I've been to the immediate area several times, the last this past May. Omey civil parish covers mostly the area west and northwest of the town of Clifden, and including it. It also includes Cleggan and back along the north of the Owenglin River to the Twelve Pins/Bens mountains. The townland of Attigoddaun is only a half mile north of Claddaghduff village - where the local RC church is. I've never noticed a cemetery there, but there is a graveyard in the townland of Emlagh (which I visited, but to look for Early Christian cross-slabs, not tombstones with names on them <gr>). This graveyard is less than a hundred yards from Attigoddaun townland. This area is well-shown on the Discovery map 37 (which you should get either in advance or at the tourist shop at the airport in Ireland), but the townland of Attigoddaun is shown only by its Irish name, Ait Tí Geadáin. The RC parish is Clifden (Omey and Ballindoon), and the webpage for the parish is: >> http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=1236 <<. The Claddaghduff church there is listed just as "Claddaghduff". No particular name. All I know about it is it is brown, and a friend of mine lives behind it <gr>. I can give you more information off-list if you contact me directly - stuff such as local B&Bs to stay, etc. It's a beautiful part of Connemara. But I can't help you with the records, as I don't do any genealogy. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Pat: There are many sources of cemetery transcriptions--try googling using a placename and the words cemetery transcriptions. Since you sent this to the Galway list, I can recommend one such source for Kiltullagh Parish, Galway. It's a booklet published for the Kiltullagh Parish Reunion in 2000-1. It's titled "The Memoral Transcriptions of Kiltullagh, Killimordaly, and Esker Graveyards" and is by Con Mulvey. I'm sure other listers will give you more sources. Cheers, Jude > Are there perhaps recorded somewhere in civil or parish records, or > simply on lists put together by benevolent genealogists, names of those > souls who are buried in the cemeteries in Ireland, which would be > available on the web? > Just wishful thinking. > Thanks. > Pat in St. Louis >

Hello, Omey Civil Parish, town of Attigoddaun: CLOHERTY, COSGROVE, COTTINGHAM, SCHOFIELD, TIERNEY (Griffith's Valuation) Would I be correct in assuming that since I found the above names, all related in some way to my grandfather, Christopher CLOHERTY, in the town of Attigoddaun, Omey Civil Parish that I have found the birth place of my grandfather, Christopher CLOHERTY. If that is the case I would appreciate if someone could tell me the name of the Roman Catholic parish as I would love to obtain records. Christopher CLOHERTY ca. 1846 Co. Galway- d. -1913 in Phila. According to Griffith's Valuation there were only 38 CLOHERTY households in all of Ireland, 37 in Galway and 1 in Limerick. Parents: unknown siblings: unknown immigrated: ca 1864 married Mary COSGROVE Oct. 1869 in Wilmington, Delaware . Christopher and Mary had 13 children. Mary COSGROVE (b. ca 1849 in Ireland d. 1924 in Phila.) parents: Stephen and Mary (Cottingham) Cosgrove known siblings: Thomas (b. ca 1855 in Ireland d. 1926 in Phila) John (b. ca. 1850 in Ireland - d. 1924 in Phila.) aunt: Margaret COTTINGHAM (b. ca 1834 in Ireland - d. 1907 in Phila.) parents: John and Mary (Schofield) Cottingham Tierney: all I know is that my parents went to a Tierney wedding who was a cousins of my father. I will be going to Ireland in late August, a surprise gift from my two daughters who will be traveling with me. I would love to be able to find the graveyard where my family is buried. I would appreciate any information, help, direction in locating records. Perhaps someone could tell me where the civil parish of Omey is located. Marguerite

For any of you with family interests from East Mayo, a new website is now up and running with FREE Parish records @ www.eastmayo.org. More parish records will be added as they are transcribed. If any of you have data to donate to the site, all is welcome. Thanks, Janet --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.

Are there perhaps recorded somewhere in civil or parish records, or simply on lists put together by benevolent genealogists, names of those souls who are buried in the cemeteries in Ireland, which would be available on the web? Just wishful thinking. Thanks. Pat in St. Louis

Hello to all, Does anyone on list have any first hand experience with viewing the lists of tenants sometimes found in the Landed Estate Records? As the years are so close to Griffiths Valuation and continue till the 1880s (a period for which there are post Valuation records detailing the occupier who paid the rent and to whom the property was later passed on ) I'm wondering if these are a worthwhile source, offering any NEW information? If they detail ALL who lived in the small townland for sale, then that would surely be a reason to hunt them down. The National Archives holds an index, arranged by townland...mine are said to be amongst the holdings...a friend is going over to Ireland and offered to spare me an hour of research. I'm tempted...but his time will be so very limited, I do not want to waste it. ANYone who's tried these records...Kindly enlighten the rest of us. Regards, TIm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 2, 1824 MARRIED. By Special License, at the Church of Athenry, on the 28th ultimo, by the Rev. Mr. Irwin, William Lopdell of Athenry House, in the County Galway, Esq. to Miss Mary M'Tigue, of said place. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Delia Goggins m Thomas O'Malley in Brooklyn NY Delia b 1889 in Galway (on a site it said she was b 1887 but with the name Bridget) Thomas O'Malley b in NY? They lived in Brooklyn NY Delia parents are: Patrick Goggins & Bridget Conroy children of Delia & Thomas are: Elane,Kathleen,Thomas William Elane died in 6/22/1924 of meninges 4 yrs. old Kathleen b 1918.........m Edwin Koegel..moved to Fla. from what I heard Thomas William ?.............. Delia died in 2/4/1924 in Riverside hospital in Bronx she spent 6 months in hospital. After Delia died, her children went with her sister Susanna Goggins Walsh. address of the family were. 366 57 st Brooklyn NY & 331 57 St Brooklyn. the fate of Thomas (the father) is not known but, he was unstable after his wife and child I was told my my family. Thank you, Michele

Interesting! My Irish ancestors have their birthdates all over the place. There were 2 John Byrnes in Somerville Ma.USA in the 1860s - one from County Meath and one from Monaghan. They must have been about 5 years apart in age.Every document had different birthdate and years - the various census's naturalization papers etc. I didn't think I would ever figure out which one was mine until I found their wives maiden names and found that the witnesses to his US Naturalization was his wife's 2 brothers. I have also been told that once registration started people were responsible for registering the births and fined if they didn't do so by a certain date.To avoid paying the fine they often they lied about the true date of birth. I would guess then that a person would give one date and their documents would have another. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: The age that people said they were.... >I came across a very interesting statement recently - and - I think, that >those of you who have birthdates for your ancestors should bear this in >mind. > > The statement was made in a Court of Law - an Assize hearing in October of > 1845 in Co. Offaly (King's). A man called Martin Doran, being questioned > by a solicitor as to an occurrence on some land that he claimed to be his. > > "Cross examined by Mr. Mitchell - I hold three acres and three roods of > land ; I can't exactly tell my age; but I think I am twenty five ; I don't > know who is the landlord of the......" > > I found the few words re his age very interesting. "I think I am 25" > > Do you? > > Jane > ______________________________

Hi Debbie, I think there is a quicker route for checking OLD spellings of Irish surnames. It may or may not be of use to you...may be to others on the list with 'unfounded' names. This is a UCC project which is still evolving...but the Full Index to Petty's '1659 Census' of 'Principal Irish names' is complete... http://minerva.ucc.ie:6336/dynaweb/atlas/atlas/@Generic__BookView Also, for those with impossible sounding placenames there is available the "Onomasticon Goedelicum: locorum et tribuum Hiberniae et Scotiae: an index, with identifications, to the Gaelic names of places and tribes by Edmund Hogan, S.J. (Dublin: Hodges Figgis, 1910)" This one is a bit difficult to decipher...see for yourselves... http://minerva.ucc.ie:6336/dynaweb/locus/dictionary/@Generic__BookView The letter "M" was left out and can be found at http://www.ucc.ie/locus/Letterm.htm Anyone with any suggestions at to wehre I can find the old Claddagh School records for the 19th century?...chasing them for years (no there not in the NAI nor at the present day school)...closest hit was a facsimile of a page in an old Galway Roots magazine...the AUTHOR of the article didn't know where she's gotten the records!!!!!!! Good hunting, Nancy --- "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> wrote: > I wonder Debbie, if the surname Matdam could actually have been Madden? > The > difference in spelling could be that the name was written as it sounded > and/or transcribed incorrectly. > > When people said they came from somewhere like Tuam, they could have > been > speaking of one of a few types of Land Division. They may have meant the > > town itself, the Civil Parish or even the Poor Law Union. So, they could > > have lived any where within about a ten mile radius of Tuam town itself, > and > could have actually lived in any one of a few parishes. > > I'm not trying to make this harder for you, it's just you've said that > this > is your brick wall. > > Now, this is not evidence per se but in the Griffiths Valuation for Tuam > > civil parish, (later than the time frame you'd need), there is only one > person of the surname Curley listed, plus, there is one 'Madden' > reference > and bot of these people were leasing land in Tuam town, on the same > street > even. > > Just something for you to think about. > > Jane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Bert" <debbiebert@ameritech.net> > To: <IRL-GALWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:42 PM > Subject: [GALWAY] My Brick Wall, CURLEY , Taum, Galway > Ontario, Canada > > > > Our CURLEY line came to Canada from Ireland. Their son Thomas was > born in > > Ireland in 1827, but I believe they could of been in Canada by 1832. > > This line is my brick wall so to speak. To different branches of the > > family (that did not know > > > ==== IRL-GALWAY Mailing List ==== > To unsub or change your Irl-Galway mailing mode: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-GALWAY.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > NYC Irish Research Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/