When you use the site I sent over you need to use other parts of it like Placename County Barony Parish Townland it helps go to place name and it pulls up all of the tenant on GV On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Teri Rehurek wrote: > Ballyconneely

Maire Thanks for the information. If I am lucky they will have something that covers that area. I think the listed members of households went from about 15 to 20. Several different entries varied. Many of these families were interconnected and related. I know that there were other family members not mentioned. It is a very small out of the way place from my understanding. The lack of information very disconcerting at times. My Greens there were kind of odd men out as far as I can tell the family originally English, retired RIC. I think that a few of the other families may have some RIC connections. Church of ENG. The O'Malley's poor Irish Catholic fisherman farmers. I know do not have all of the Greens. Only Three children from 1st Generation- I have only about 7 of 9 from the 2nd Gen. O'Malleys I have only about 5 of their children, being Irish Catholic I am pretty sure that there were more. I am going to try and contact the priest in Ballyconneely where Brian said they would have attended church and see if they can give me some additional information. I will try to come up with the original police report on the incident. Thanks again for your information. Teri ----- Hi Teri What you need to bear in mind that the only people mentioned in Griffiths valuation are the head leaseholders. There could have been many other O'Malley family members who were not listed and some even even sub-letting. There was something called con-acre There are summaries of the 1841-1851 censii available which give you the total number of people living in a townland which is broken down into males and females. It also mentions the numbers of houses. I didn't know T"he Playboy of the Western World" was based on a real story. Very interesting! Maire --- On Wed, 21/1/09, Teri Rehurek <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: From: Teri Rehurek <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Patrick O'Malley-Calla To: "irl-galway" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 7:44 PM Brian Thanks again for your information. I noticed the reference before to the incident but it did not totally register. You have very likely given me a death date for my Patrick O'Malley. I believe that in 1845 Griffiths there were only two Patrick O'Malleys in Calla. One living right next to my William Green I believe was the father of his daughter-law Honor O'Malley-Green. I have a death date of 1871 for William Green and I believe that they were of the same Generation. late 1700's -1800's to 1870's. Though I do not have a William in Patrick O'Malley's children listing. I believe the name was common in the family so there probably was one. Anyway it probably bears further investigation. You say that there were newspaper and police reports on the incident? Would they be hard to get. They might be more informative. I have looked at the Newspapers that are available on line do not remember coming across anything on it. I read the play along time ago and it has been on my reading list because I do not really remember it. Thanks again for all your information. I think I should tell you that on January 28th 1873, Patrick Malley. of Calla was murdered by his own son, William. The police report said that he was hit over the head with a loy (turf spade.) There's a brief reference to it on _http://aoh32.org_ (http://aoh32.org<http://aoh32.org/<http://aoh32.org%3chttp//aoh32.org/>>) The Playboy of the Western World is based on the killing of Patrick Malley of Calla. Synge probably read about it in the local press. William Malley is Christy Mahon in the play, a ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The indexes to the Civil BMD registers have been uploaded to the LDS Pilot site at... http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0 They include all Ireland 1845 ­ 1921 and Republic of Ireland 1922 ­ 1958. You can view the original index entries free of charge. Diane

You can now enter the father's name (if known) and the parish/district. If you click on the relevant record set on the first search page, the options for the wider search come up. An improvement, but I agree it would be great to be able to see more definite data before purchasing records - they are often not the ones wanted. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] West Galway Family History Site > The big drawback is if you want to look in a specific parish or townland, > you can't .. you're limited to an entire county ... so it's a pig in a > poke when buying a record that has no connection to the individual you are > looking for.. I wish they would supply more information that would allow > you to make a more informed purchase. > > this is a good free site that has GRIFFITH's valuation ... > > Bob > > http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php >

http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/

http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Library/LibraryNetwork/Tuam/ this is from the Galway Library http://www.galway.ie/en/Visiting/Title,8381,en.html When you are trying to find anything here or in Ireland always go to the site of the library they are great in doing look ups and emailing you what they have Good Luck

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Hi DBlair7596 Many thanks for the pointer to the West Galway Family History site, which in fact lists two Church Baptism Records for Edward Charles Howell in 1884 (and not as we believed 1885). And both Records are for my grandfather: * The first Record I presume is his birth registration on 12 May 1884 in the Parish/District of Army Galway C of I, and * The second is his Baptism the same day at St Nicholas' Church (C of I) On both Records the parents are Charles William and Agnes Howell, Edward's parents, and the address given is College Road. The really great surprise is Charles is down as a Sergeant with the 12th Regiment (of what as yet undetermined, but probably Artillery), as we understood him to have been a civilian Master Butcher working in Army Garrisons in which Agnes taught school. Oh the joys of genealogy - back to the drawing board on this one . . . Once again, many thanks for the pointer, and to the members of IRL-GALWAY too - bless you all. Kind regards, Pete [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Peter JW Howell) > 2. Re: 88th Connaught Rangers (Joy Dean) > 3. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Phyllis M. Phillips) > 5. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Declan Barron) > 6. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 (Phyllis M. Phillips) > 7. Patrick O'Malley-Calla (Teri Rehurek) > 8. Re: Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:46:10 +0000 > From: Peter JW Howell <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear [email protected], > > >From the England 1911 Census I have found out that my grandfather, > Edward Charles Howell, was born in Galway. Edward's date of birth is 13 > May, 1885. > > Edward's mother Agnes Howell, formally Cambridge and herself born in > Athlone in 1859, a daughter of Master Gunner Daniel Cambridge VC, Yeoman > of the Guard, was a Certified Teacher and she taught in Army Garrison > Schools in Ireland in the 1880's and 1890's. > > I can only find one reference to a Garrison in County Galway, and that > is at Renmore, Galway City. > > The only reason I have for Agnes, her husband Charles William Howell and > their daughter May (born 1882 in Woolwich, Kent) being in Galway for the > birth of grandfather Edward is for Agnes to have been a teacher there, > and hence my assumption at Renmore. > > I found a fascinating document on t'internet of the origins of Renmore > Golf Club, which includes an Ordnance map of the Barracks and its > environs showing the Garrison's School, Hospital and Roman Catholic > Church - http://www.galwaygolf.com/historyFiles/chapter1/Chapter%201.pdf > > And looking at GoogleEarth the School and Hospital buildings still > exists, as does the Church, construction of which I understand began in > 1884. The Church continues as the Garrison Church today. > > So my thoughts at the moment are if Agnes did indeed teach at Renmore > Garrison then her son Edward, my grandfather, may have been born in the > Garrison Hospital and christened in the Garrison Church if the building > and consecration of the Church had been completed by mid May 1885. If > this be so then Edward would have been one of the first to be christened > there. > > I have written to the Curator at the Military Museum//, Dun Ui > Mhaoiliosa, Renmore Barracks, and I await his/her response in the > greatest of anticipation. > > Meanwhile, I will be extremely and eternally grateful if anyone can > point me towards other sources of information in Galway which may help > me to confirm my grandfather's place of birth. > > With best wishes. > > Kind regards, > > Pete > > > Peter Howell > Armitage U.K. > > http://crossforvalour-vc.webs.com/index.htm// > > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:48:08 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Peter, At the West Galway Family History site there is only one Edward > Charles HOWELL listed and its for 1884. Its only 5 EUROS at their online > site, no mailing and instant. Good luck I hope this helps. > **************

This is a site that the Galway Library sent me It is a great site and you need to do it with intense searching Look at the top of the page under the header and if it comes up funny put it in google. It holds a lot of informayion. also another good site is http://www.landedestates.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/ ours is here Phyllis On Jan 21, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Patricia O'Shea wrote: > You can now enter the father's name (if known) and the parish/ > district. If > you click on the relevant record set on the first search page, the > options > for the wider search come up. > > An improvement, but I agree it would be great to be able to see more > definite data before purchasing records - they are often not the ones > wanted. > Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand > > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] West Galway Family History Site > > >> The big drawback is if you want to look in a specific parish or >> townland, >> you can't .. you're limited to an entire county ... so it's a pig >> in a >> poke when buying a record that has no connection to the individual >> you are >> looking for.. I wish they would supply more information that would >> allow >> you to make a more informed purchase. >> >> this is a good free site that has GRIFFITH's valuation ... >> >> Bob >> >> http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

The big drawback is if you want to look in a specific parish or townland, you can't .. you're limited to an entire county ... so it's a pig in a poke when buying a record that has no connection to the individual you are looking for.. I wish they would supply more information that would allow you to make a more informed purchase. this is a good free site that has GRIFFITH's valuation ... Bob http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php ---- [email protected] wrote: > This web site is at _http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/_ > (http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/) parish records go back to the early 1800's. Most Irish > counties are now online and at 5Euros, it's pretty good and a instant > response. Good Luck, Dave Blair > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Civil records go back to 1864 (and registration of Protestant marriages back to 1845) but church records generally go back further. Diane

Thats the one I looked at. I;m confused on the date that records go back I thoght you could only look at 1864 and forward. When I was in PRONI I could not look prior to that. But I had a native sitting next to me that gave me a password and wow i did look prior so I wonder where that comes from. Plus my next area of question is.... I thought there was only one place in Galway that is holding West and East Galway and the rest of the area and the place is Rosscommon?????? On Jan 21, 2009, at 5:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: > This web site is at _http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/_ > (http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/) parish records go back to > the early 1800's. Most Irish > counties are now online and at 5Euros, it's pretty good and a > instant > response. Good Luck, Dave Blair > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just > 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx > ?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

This web site is at _http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/_ (http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/) parish records go back to the early 1800's. Most Irish counties are now online and at 5Euros, it's pretty good and a instant response. Good Luck, Dave Blair **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

I looked at the site I had and it had a lot more then one On Jan 21, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > what is the web address???? > > > > On Jan 21, 2009, at 3:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Peter, At the West Galway Family History site there is only >> one Edward >> Charles HOWELL listed and its for 1884. Its only 5 EUROS at their >> online >> site, no mailing and instant. Good luck I hope this helps. >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just >> 2 easy >> steps! >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx >> ?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De >> cemailfooterNO62) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

what is the web address???? On Jan 21, 2009, at 3:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Peter, At the West Galway Family History site there is only > one Edward > Charles HOWELL listed and its for 1884. Its only 5 EUROS at their > online > site, no mailing and instant. Good luck I hope this helps. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just > 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx > ?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Peter, At the West Galway Family History site there is only one Edward Charles HOWELL listed and its for 1884. Its only 5 EUROS at their online site, no mailing and instant. Good luck I hope this helps. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Hi, If you have the exact date use GRO Roscommon (website) If you need a search go GRO Dublin or LDS Declan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis M. Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Edward Charles HOWELL - Born Galway 1885 > > > I sent my money in to the GRO Roscommon which now holds all the > records. and they could not find it and sent me back 2 euros for my > ten dollars. When I went to GRO Dublin it was very time consuming and > not like our Achieves. You got the book for the date range and I found > more then one of my name. They told me to come back the next day. When > I went back I got NOT the whole page but just the strip and it was not > mine. I hope now that they moved it to GRO it will be better. I plan > on going over next Spring and I will hit a number of them I hope to > find it i would like to have duel citizenship. I looked here for ti at > the FHC. but that was also not good. Same for her mom marriage record. > I talked to the priest in Dunmore and he said they did not have the > records for that date. My cousin and I are going and when I went the > first time I had my sister who was not into this. But my cousin is so > as they say two heads are better then one. > > On Jan 21, 2009, at 8:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Since you have a birth date and it's after 1863, you should be able >> to find >> the birth in the Irish civil birth registry. You can let the GRO do it >> (groireland.ie) or do it yourself via the LDS index and registration >> films. >> >> Diane >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3785 (20090121) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Brian Thanks again for your information. I noticed the reference before to the incident but it did not totally register. You have very likely given me a death date for my Patrick O'Malley. I believe that in 1845 Griffiths there were only two Patrick O'Malleys in Calla. One living right next to my William Green I believe was the father of his daughter-law Honor O'Malley-Green. I have a death date of 1871 for William Green and I believe that they were of the same Generation. late 1700's -1800's to 1870's. Though I do not have a William in Patrick O'Malley's children listing. I believe the name was common in the family so there probably was one. Anyway it probably bears further investigation. You say that there were newspaper and police reports on the incident? Would they be hard to get. They might be more informative. I have looked at the Newspapers that are available on line do not remember coming across anything on it. I read the play along time ago and it has been on my reading list because I do not really remember it. Thanks again for all your information. I think I should tell you that on January 28th 1873, Patrick Malley. of Calla was murdered by his own son, William. The police report said that he was hit over the head with a loy (turf spade.) There's a brief reference to it on _http://aoh32.org_ (http://aoh32.org<http://aoh32.org/>) The Playboy of the Western World is based on the killing of Patrick Malley of Calla. Synge probably read about it in the local press. William Malley is Christy Mahon in the play, a

Many thanks for the replies, all very helpful.   Joy Dean       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Dean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:32 AM Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] 88th Connaught Rangers >I have the privilege of having been given a letter written in 1878 by my >great-great-uncle John McCusker to his sister, my great-grandmother. > He put his address as: N1280 B Company, 88 Connaught Rangers, Komgha, Cape > Colony Frontier. It is a fascinating letter, about family and friends, and > the world situation. I have searched the internet and found interesting > sites about the 88th Foot Connaught Rangers, and information about Robert > Seavers whom he mentioned as having been wounded. > > Does anyone know if it is possible to find the service record for my > great-great-uncle? > Thank you. > > Joy Dean>

Dear [email protected], >From the England 1911 Census I have found out that my grandfather, Edward Charles Howell, was born in Galway. Edward's date of birth is 13 May, 1885. Edward's mother Agnes Howell, formally Cambridge and herself born in Athlone in 1859, a daughter of Master Gunner Daniel Cambridge VC, Yeoman of the Guard, was a Certified Teacher and she taught in Army Garrison Schools in Ireland in the 1880's and 1890's. I can only find one reference to a Garrison in County Galway, and that is at Renmore, Galway City. The only reason I have for Agnes, her husband Charles William Howell and their daughter May (born 1882 in Woolwich, Kent) being in Galway for the birth of grandfather Edward is for Agnes to have been a teacher there, and hence my assumption at Renmore. I found a fascinating document on t'internet of the origins of Renmore Golf Club, which includes an Ordnance map of the Barracks and its environs showing the Garrison's School, Hospital and Roman Catholic Church - http://www.galwaygolf.com/historyFiles/chapter1/Chapter%201.pdf And looking at GoogleEarth the School and Hospital buildings still exists, as does the Church, construction of which I understand began in 1884. The Church continues as the Garrison Church today. So my thoughts at the moment are if Agnes did indeed teach at Renmore Garrison then her son Edward, my grandfather, may have been born in the Garrison Hospital and christened in the Garrison Church if the building and consecration of the Church had been completed by mid May 1885. If this be so then Edward would have been one of the first to be christened there. I have written to the Curator at the Military Museum//, Dun Ui Mhaoiliosa, Renmore Barracks, and I await his/her response in the greatest of anticipation. Meanwhile, I will be extremely and eternally grateful if anyone can point me towards other sources of information in Galway which may help me to confirm my grandfather's place of birth. With best wishes. Kind regards, Pete Peter Howell Armitage U.K. http://crossforvalour-vc.webs.com/index.htm//