My best friend was a Dolan and it was Galway On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Karin Joyce wrote: > Dolan is generally a Northern name as well. > > Fermanagh and Louth are typical places for Dolans. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:16 PM > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question > > >> Paddy, >> >> >> This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank >> you?for posting. >> >> >> My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, >> parish my >> Catholic ancestors >> were from. >> >> >> I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to >> have >> originated in >> Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 >> on;??but >> back in >> the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. >> >> >> My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you >> suggest >> how to proceed? >> >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Marybeth C. >> northeast Ohio >> >> = >> = >> = >> ===================================================================== >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 >> From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation >> >> >> In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation >> can >> provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see >> www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent >> primer on >> the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone >> scanning the Griffith's tables). >> >> Paddy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone scanning the Griffith's tables). Paddy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MK Douglas Sent: 19 February 2009 16:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added Phyllis--  You probably know this, but I thought I should mention it for the benefit of any new researchers.  Griffith's is a census subtitute, not a census.  It was done over a number of years to valuate land holdings.  You will only find the names of those who owned or leased land, and you will not find out who else or how many others were in the household .  Also, you may also find the same people listed more than once.   Griffith's is certainly invaluable, but is not the same as a census.   Kathleen --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: From: Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 8:06 AM Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was called Griffens On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > Hi Christina: > > We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! > > You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his > wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to > Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four > Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their > birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was > born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. > > As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in 1932, > I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to > recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to > start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born > daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors > is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of > Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Veronica THORNTON Hagin > northern California > > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > >> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>> the IGP >>> Archives. >>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>> trying to >>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>> >>> To contribute: >>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christina >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dolan is generally a Northern name as well. Fermanagh and Louth are typical places for Dolans. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question > Paddy, > > > This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank > you?for posting. > > > My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, parish my > Catholic ancestors > were from. > > > I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to have > originated in > Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 on;??but > back in > the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. > > > My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you suggest > how to proceed? > > > Many thanks. > > Marybeth C. > northeast Ohio > > ======================================================================== > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation > > > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy > > > -----Original Message----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Griffen is Northern Ireland as well as the Kelly I have those on my side. Kelly is Donegal On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:16 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Paddy, > > > This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? > Thank you?for posting. > > > My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, > parish my Catholic ancestors > were from. > > > I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to > have originated in > Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 > on;??but back in > the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. > > > My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you > suggest how to proceed? > > > Many thanks. > > Marybeth C. > northeast Ohio > > = > = > ====================================================================== > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation > > > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent > primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy > > > -----Original Message----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

If you look up each of those surnames in the Griffith's index (failteromhat.com) for Galway, you'll find that Rice is quite rare and Dolan not terribly common. In fact, only one Rice in Griffith's, in Lickmolassy civil parish (Portumna RC parish), along with some Dolans (and Kellys, of course). The Portumna parish records have been filmed by the LDS back to 1830, and are on film 1279216, items 20-21. Diane

Paddy, This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank you?for posting. My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, parish my Catholic ancestors were from. I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to have originated in Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 on;??but back in the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you suggest how to proceed? Many thanks. Marybeth C. northeast Ohio ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone scanning the Griffith's tables). Paddy -----Original Message-----

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that was great how did you pull up the streets like that?? On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Patrick Casey wrote: > > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent > primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MK Douglas > Sent: 19 February 2009 16:43 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added > > > > Phyllis-- You probably know this, but I thought I should mention it > for the > benefit of any new researchers. Griffith's is a census subtitute, > not a > census. It was done over a number of years to valuate land > holdings. You > will only find the names of those who owned or leased land, and you > will not > find out who else or how many others were in the household . Also, > you may > also find the same people listed more than once. > > Griffith's is certainly invaluable, but is not the same as a census. > > Kathleen > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 8:06 AM > > Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was > called Griffens > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > >> Hi Christina: >> >> We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! >> >> You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his >> wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to >> Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four >> Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their >> birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was >> born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. >> >> As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in >> 1932, >> I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to >> recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to >> start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born >> daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors >> is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of >> Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Veronica THORNTON Hagin >> northern California >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: >> >>> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >>> >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>>> the IGP >>>> Archives. >>>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>>> trying to >>>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>>> >>>> To contribute: >>>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Christina >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

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James R. Reilly (who wrote the excellent article Paddy mentioned) also wrote a short book called Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland. It has even more information in the same vein as the article. You can see a preview of Reilly's book at Google books. The page views will be limited, but you can get a good idea of the usefulness of this book from what you can see online. I include below a link to the cover page, from which you can look at the Table of Contents and other available pages. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=MqAYwjPXVngC&dq=Richard+Griffith+and+His+Valuations+of+Ireland&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=0iUUHkm0mu&sig=93wQLYEkvVdeZPsfIzECHYSH7mk I recommend Reilly's book for anyone who wants to get more out of the entries in Griffith's Valuation and its supporting documents. The Valuation in Ireland was a complex thing. It is a record of property valuation and taxation, not a census. (And as with most taxation, it never ended!) It was begun in different years in different areas, and procedures changed when new laws were passed. The Valuation records include several different manuscript books which preceded (in time) the printed or published version, which is commonly called Griffith's. Griffith's was then followed by years of Valuation Revision lists (the taxes being updated, names of old owners being struck off the list and new owners being penciled in, etc), all the way to recent times. Many of these documents that precede or follow Griffith's are available through microfilms from The Family History Library. If you really want to understand the documents you are looking at, you need to know something about them. Read. The more you know, the more you will be able to deduce from records. There is also an excellent article by David Ouimette (pronounced WE-MET) about the manuscript Valuation records (House Books, Field Books, Perambulation Books, etc.). It appeared in Vol. 27, No. 1 (Jan 2006) of The Septs, a publication of the Irish Genealogical Society International (IGSI), based in Minnesota, USA. If you are a member, you can access all the back issues of The Septs online at their website - including Ouimette's article. That is sometimes more convenient than searching for your dog-eared copy of a particular issue... I have to make a plug here for the IGSI (Irish Genealogical Society International). Their website is at http://www.irishgenealogical.org/. If you are a member, you can view and download any of the issues of IGSI’s quarterly journal The Septs since the beginning of its publication in 1980. It is a great publication, with many articles written by well-known Irish researchers. (So you could read David Ouimette's excellent article yourself online if you join.) They have been running a special on membership recently (not sure it is still going on) - get 2 others to join with you and you get your membership free. The details were at their website. There are many other reasons to join beyond receiving The Septs. They have a wonderful library in Minnesota, and the staff will do lookups for members for a nominal charge. Perhaps several people on the list will want to get together and join... I have been a member for many year and have benefited greatly. Regards, Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA Patrick Casey wrote: > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy

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You are right. I think it gives you a starting point as to where in Ireland they maybe from. As you well know when you do look ups for Bapt-Marriages-Deaths. It only says place Ireland On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:42 AM, MK Douglas wrote: > Phyllis-- You probably know this, but I thought I should mention it > for the benefit of any new researchers. Griffith's is a census > subtitute, not a census. It was done over a number of years to > valuate land holdings. You will only find the names of those who > owned or leased land, and you will not find out who else or how many > others were in the household . Also, you may also find the same > people listed more than once. > > Griffith's is certainly invaluable, but is not the same as a census. > > Kathleen > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 8:06 AM > > Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was > called Griffens > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > >> Hi Christina: >> >> We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! >> >> You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his >> wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to >> Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four >> Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their >> birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was >> born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. >> >> As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in >> 1932, >> I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to >> recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to >> start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born >> daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors >> is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of >> Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Veronica THORNTON Hagin >> northern California >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: >> >>> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >>> >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>>> the IGP >>>> Archives. >>>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>>> trying to >>>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>>> >>>> To contribute: >>>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Christina >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

looks like it has to be googled to bring it up. I don't know why that does that On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/ > On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > >> Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was >> called Griffens >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: >> >>> Hi Christina: >>> >>> We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! >>> >>> You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his >>> wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to >>> Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four >>> Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as >>> their >>> birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was >>> born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. >>> >>> As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in >>> 1932, >>> I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to >>> recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to >>> start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born >>> daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors >>> is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of >>> Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> >>> Veronica THORNTON Hagin >>> northern California >>> >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: >>> >>>> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>>>> the IGP >>>>> Archives. >>>>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>>>> trying to >>>>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>>>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>>>> >>>>> To contribute: >>>>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Christina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>> the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/ On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was > called Griffens > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > >> Hi Christina: >> >> We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! >> >> You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his >> wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to >> Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four >> Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their >> birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was >> born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. >> >> As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in >> 1932, >> I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to >> recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to >> start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born >> daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors >> is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of >> Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Veronica THORNTON Hagin >> northern California >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: >> >>> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >>> >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>>> the IGP >>>> Archives. >>>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>>> trying to >>>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>>> >>>> To contribute: >>>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Christina >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Veronica, the good news is your Thornton and Hamilton surnames are uncommon in Galway, so not too hard to pin down the likely areas they came from. In the Griffith's index, Hamilton occurs in only 5 civil parishes--Ross, Rahoon, St. Nicholas, Moyrus, and Cong, and of those 5, Thornton occurs in only Ross, Cong, and Rahoon (Rahoon and Salthill RC parishes). The bad news is that filmed RC records for Ross begin in 1853 and for Cong in 1870, and Salthill hasn't been filmed at all. However, Rahoon records have been filmed back to 1819 on LDS 0926069. You could give that a try, looking for baptisms of John and Ann's children. Diane

Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was called Griffens On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > Hi Christina: > > We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! > > You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his > wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to > Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four > Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their > birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was > born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. > > As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in 1932, > I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to > recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to > start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born > daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors > is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of > Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Veronica THORNTON Hagin > northern California > > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > >> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>> the IGP >>> Archives. >>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>> trying to >>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>> >>> To contribute: >>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christina >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Phyllis--  You probably know this, but I thought I should mention it for the benefit of any new researchers.  Griffith's is a census subtitute, not a census.  It was done over a number of years to valuate land holdings.  You will only find the names of those who owned or leased land, and you will not find out who else or how many others were in the household .  Also, you may also find the same people listed more than once.   Griffith's is certainly invaluable, but is not the same as a census.   Kathleen --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: From: Phyllis M. Phillips <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Photo added To: [email protected]ootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 8:06 AM Have you checked the site I sent over for a 1851 census which was called Griffens On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, VERONICA HAGIN wrote: > Hi Christina: > > We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! > > You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his > wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to > Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four > Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their > birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was > born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. > > As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in 1932, > I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to > recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to > start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born > daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors > is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of > Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Veronica THORNTON Hagin > northern California > > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > >> How do you pull it up where do you click?? >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >>> the IGP >>> Archives. >>> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >>> trying to >>> accomplish with shared photos and data. >>> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >>> >>> To contribute: >>> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christina >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Daily Globe St. Paul, Minnesota 6 January 1880 Dublin, Jan. 5 - Three thousand people attended the anti-rent meeting at Clare Morris, County Galway, Sunday.

How do you pull it up where do you click?? On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > Hi, > We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of > the IGP > Archives. > I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are > trying to > accomplish with shared photos and data. > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm > > To contribute: > http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ > > Regards, > Christina > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Christina: We received and opened your phots---they are beautiful! You are so lucky. My great great grandfather JOHN THORNTON and his wife ANN nee HAMILTON, left County Galway in 1830 and migrated to Liverpool, Lancashire. In all subsequent England Census, his four Irish-born children consistently gave the County of Galway as their birth place but nothing else. My direct lineage, JOHN THORNTON was born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1830+/-. As his great, great granddaughter, born in Northumberland, UK in 1932, I immigrated to north America in 1956. Have been fortunate to recovered all of JOHN'S English-born relatives but have no place to start with his Ireland-born ancestors. With three American-born daughters and seven grandchildren, my bibliography on our ancestors is almost complete but would love to go backwards into the County of Galway. Does anyone have any suggestions? Veronica THORNTON Hagin northern California On Feb 18, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Phyllis M. Phillips wrote: > How do you pull it up where do you click?? > > > On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > >> Hi, >> We have had our first family photo added to the Galway section of >> the IGP >> Archives. >> I thought some of you would like to get a feel for what we are >> trying to >> accomplish with shared photos and data. >> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/photos.htm >> >> To contribute: >> http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ >> >> Regards, >> Christina >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message