I sent a booklet to Barbara off-list so no one has to reply to this message. Karin

If so, I would be grateful if he would contact me off list.   Many thanks.   Joy Dean

Jim, You mentioned Aillenacally and, although your genealogical connection to the townland is recent, it's possible that you don't know much about it. And perhaps others might be interested, also. The 339-acre townland of Aillenacally comprises a broad peninsula, about 3 miles NE of Roundstone. The Discovery map 44 (based on aerial photograph from 1973) shows about 18 buildings in the townland, all in the SE part, close to Blackhaven/Cloonile Bay. There are no connecting roads remaining within the townland, and only one short access road (almost a non-access road [gr]). I visited the townland in May 2004. At the head of the access road, there was a large (3x4 feet or so) sign which said "Aillenacally - the oldest village in Ireland - and with an arrow pointing toward the townland with a "2 km" printed next to the arrow. I've driven about 25,000 miles in Ireland since 1991, and those 2 kms. were as tough as any road there that I have attempted......think 1st gear, no foot-on-the-pedal, just letting it idle and crawl ahead for 2 kms. [gr]). The lower part of the sign (a recent addition - papered-on) said: "For sale - deserted village on 100 acres - eight cottages, two harbours, frontage on to sea & lake, ideal for fishing, boating, pony-trecking (stet) or hotel." And then a phone number, etc. After I reached the effective end of the "road", there was only one partially-roofed dwelling in sight, and it appeared to have received casual use - for some reason or other. But, basically, it was an Ozymandias moment, as I gazed across the terrain. Tim Robinson (of Roundstone) says, about Aillenacally in his booklet accompanying his Connemara map: "The village by the Congested Districts Board quay on the E shore was deserted c.1970 when the last families moved nearer the main road". Incidentally, he has a good photo of "the eloquent skyline of the deserted settlement" on p. 339 in the "Atlas of the Irish Rural Landscape", by Aalen, Whelan and Stout, Cork University Press. I took only a picture of the sign [gr]. I may have further information on the site. I have an annotation on my map of "derelict famine village", and that may be a reference from another book or such. The Archaeological Inventory of West Galway shows only a Holy Well in the townland, and that was my original goal for visiting Aileenacally. But it's a long walk from where I finally had to stop the car, and I was no longer in the mood to visit a marginal (at best) Holy Well. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Hi Diane, Many thanks for your reply. Just started doing my Mums side of the tree, after 15 months on my Dad's side (Co Wicklow). I will give LDS a look and see what turns up. Thanks again, Jim On 2/24/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim, the LDS on-line catalog shows that their film 1279212 has records for > both Roundstone (1872-1910 on items 14-16) and Carna/Moyrus (1852-1903 on > items > 8-10) RC parishes. For more recent dates you could consult the Irish civil > record index on familysearch.org. Moyrus civil parish would be in the > Clifden > registration district. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike Thanks for your reply. Bridget is my Mum and still alive and kicking. Early days, but I am getting one or two feedbacks and suggestions where best to access data. Thanks again, Jim On 2/24/09, Ruane, Michael T Mr CTR USA <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did Bridget marry and what was her occupation? There was a Bridget > Connolly who taught at the National School in Ballinruane just south of > Moylough. She died a few years ago. > Mike from the Jersey Shore > > Michael T. Ruane > The James Thomas Group > WMD, Counterterrorism and Emergency Management Consulting > Directorate of Plans, Training, Mobilization and Security > Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703 > Ofc: 732-532-9407; DSN 992-9407 > Fax: 732-532-2637; DSN 992-2637 > www.thejamesthomasgroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Higgins > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Connolly from Roundstone, Co Galway > > Hi all, > my first request to this forum, requiring info' on my Mothers > side of the family. > Bridget Connolly 1930- date is one of 7 children born in > Aillenacally, Banninafad, Roundstone, Co Galway in the RC parish of > Moyrus. > Her father was Peter Jack Connolly 1884-1962, from Aileencally and > Nora Barrett 1902-1976, from Minish. > Any data, trees or sources gladly accepted. > Thanks in advance, > Jim Higgins > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are welcome, Jim. Good luck on your quest!! Mike Michael T. Ruane The James Thomas Group WMD, Counterterrorism and Emergency Management Consulting Directorate of Plans, Training, Mobilization and Security Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703 Ofc: 732-532-9407; DSN 992-9407 Fax: 732-532-2637; DSN 992-2637 www.thejamesthomasgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J Higgins Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Connolly from Roundstone, Co Galway Mike Thanks for your reply. Bridget is my Mum and still alive and kicking. Early days, but I am getting one or two feedbacks and suggestions where best to access data. Thanks again, Jim On 2/24/09, Ruane, Michael T Mr CTR USA <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did Bridget marry and what was her occupation? There was a Bridget > Connolly who taught at the National School in Ballinruane just south > of Moylough. She died a few years ago. > Mike from the Jersey Shore > > Michael T. Ruane > The James Thomas Group > WMD, Counterterrorism and Emergency Management Consulting Directorate > of Plans, Training, Mobilization and Security Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703 > Ofc: 732-532-9407; DSN 992-9407 > Fax: 732-532-2637; DSN 992-2637 > www.thejamesthomasgroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Higgins > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Connolly from Roundstone, Co Galway > > Hi all, > my first request to this forum, requiring info' on my Mothers > side of the family. > Bridget Connolly 1930- date is one of 7 children born in > Aillenacally, Banninafad, Roundstone, Co Galway in the RC parish of > Moyrus. > Her father was Peter Jack Connolly 1884-1962, from Aileencally and > Nora Barrett 1902-1976, from Minish. > Any data, trees or sources gladly accepted. > Thanks in advance, > Jim Higgins > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, my first request to this forum, requiring info' on my Mothers side of the family. Bridget Connolly 1930- date is one of 7 children born in Aillenacally, Banninafad, Roundstone, Co Galway in the RC parish of Moyrus. Her father was Peter Jack Connolly 1884-1962, from Aileencally and Nora Barrett 1902-1976, from Minish. Any data, trees or sources gladly accepted. Thanks in advance, Jim Higgins

Did Bridget marry and what was her occupation? There was a Bridget Connolly who taught at the National School in Ballinruane just south of Moylough. She died a few years ago. Mike from the Jersey Shore Michael T. Ruane The James Thomas Group WMD, Counterterrorism and Emergency Management Consulting Directorate of Plans, Training, Mobilization and Security Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703 Ofc: 732-532-9407; DSN 992-9407 Fax: 732-532-2637; DSN 992-2637 www.thejamesthomasgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Higgins Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Connolly from Roundstone, Co Galway Hi all, my first request to this forum, requiring info' on my Mothers side of the family. Bridget Connolly 1930- date is one of 7 children born in Aillenacally, Banninafad, Roundstone, Co Galway in the RC parish of Moyrus. Her father was Peter Jack Connolly 1884-1962, from Aileencally and Nora Barrett 1902-1976, from Minish. Any data, trees or sources gladly accepted. Thanks in advance, Jim Higgins ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, the LDS on-line catalog shows that their film 1279212 has records for both Roundstone (1872-1910 on items 14-16) and Carna/Moyrus (1852-1903 on items 8-10) RC parishes. For more recent dates you could consult the Irish civil record index on familysearch.org. Moyrus civil parish would be in the Clifden registration district. Diane

Karin, I would appreciate a copy of the above booklet and you can send it directly to me. Thanks. Sheila **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

I have a .pdf of a booklet called Looking Back which has some family information of the people past and recent present (maybe 20 years ago) of families living in Castledaly Scalp area. There are Skehill families (which still live there) but no mention of the Skehill couple that there has been a request for - Thomas and Sarah. If anyone would like the booklet sent to them in email, I will be happy to do it. If it is okay to send to the [email protected] address, will the webmaster give permission. I understand this might not be permissable. Sending to individuals is fine with me as well. Karin Joyce

I have a book from the Carroll Lally family written by a Carroll in Galway On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:45 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/28/2008 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I know that they settled in PA and they have a website > > > On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:24 AM, Lally wrote: > >> Hello Phyllis, >> I am searching the LALLY family of Galway .specifically the family >> of John >> and Mary (Meehan ) Lally married 1840-1850 (approx) at St >> Patricks in >> Galway. >> I would be very interested in any information you may have. >> Many thanks, >> Sue Lally > > > I would also like info on the Pa family. My GGF was William Lally > of Galway > - I do not have info with me > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just > 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

In a message dated 12/28/2008 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I know that they settled in PA and they have a website On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:24 AM, Lally wrote: > Hello Phyllis, > I am searching the LALLY family of Galway .specifically the family > of John > and Mary (Meehan ) Lally married 1840-1850 (approx) at St Patricks in > Galway. > I would be very interested in any information you may have. > Many thanks, > Sue Lally I would also like info on the Pa family. My GGF was William Lally of Galway - I do not have info with me **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

Thank you to those who offered information re my query of Cahill family and Gort Barbara BNE QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Peterswell and Adrahan, etc. > Kilbeacanty is a civil and RC parish in southeast Galway, while Gort is an > RC > parish just northwest of Kilbeacanty. However, Gort is also the name of a > civil registration district, which includes Gort, Kilbeacanty, and many > other > parishes. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1963 - Release Date: 02/20/09 19:22:00

Linda Thank you for this information, I have had several of the LDS films out for these areas, Gort, Peterswell, CastleDaly and Adrahan and could not find anything, is Kilbeacanty in the same area as Gort as I notice it mentions the Church is listed under Gort. There was a person on the Galway list some years ago who said she had this family and would get back to me but never came back, even when I saw her reply to someone I went back and asked her but her reply was she was too busy and have not heard anything since. It has been very frustrating not being able to find Thomas and Sarah parents or where they came from. I have not been back to Ireland since I did a 4 day tour in 1996, we did not go near Galway but went across the southern part of Ireland. Barbara BNE QLD AUS ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Peterswell and Adrahan, etc. > > In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:08:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > This is a problem we all have for our Irish research unless we have > something definite about where they came from. > > I found a reference to a marriage of my g greats who married at Gort 17 > March 1855, Thomas Cahill to Sarah Skehill according to the Catholic > Church > register. It said he was from Adrahan but nothing for Sarah. > > I hire the relevant LDS films for both Parishes, but could not find > anything > prior to their wedding as earlier books were missing for different > reasons. > > Then I found a reference to a sister of Thomas, a Mary Cahill who married > an > Edward O'Brien at Castle Daly, again same story parish registers did not > cover earler period, then when Mary died her husband said she was born at > Peterswell, again cannot find any references on Parish films, early books > missing. > > Thomas's parents according to Immigration film to Moreton Bay Qld said > Patrick Cahill and Bridget O'Loughlin. > > Cannot find when Edward and Mary came to Qld. > > Still don't know where they were born or where the parents went to. > > Barbar > BNE QLD AUS > > Where we have it all at present rain, floods, and fire > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:16 AM > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question > > >> Paddy, >> >> >> This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank >> you?for posting. >> >> >> My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, parish >> my > >> Catholic ancestors >> were from. >> >> >> I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to have >> originated in >> Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 >> on;??but >> back in >> the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. >> >> >> My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you >> suggest >> how to proceed? >> >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Marybeth C. >> northeast Ohio >> >> ======================================================================== >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 >> From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation >> >> >> In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can >> provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see >> www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer >> on >> the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone >> scanning the Griffith's tables). >> >> Paddy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 > 20:55:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > Parush records for Peterswell can be found under and at the church at > Kilbeacanty - even today the parish priest serves both Peterswell, and > Kilbeacanty. Here is the web link which gives info on the church - > _http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618_ > (http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618) > > LDS has several films that would be of interest to you for birth and > marriages, but also look at the one for Land Valuations - i did and was > able to > locate my family's property on a map I purchased and also to see the > neighbors > and the chain of ownership for the properties. > > The RC church is St Columba - it is across the street from the Old > Kilbeacanty Cemetery - look on Find A Grave (_www.findagrave.com_ > (http://www.findagrave.com) ) as i have enetered a few graves from this > cemetery on that site - > I have spoken to Fr Callanan on several occasions and found him to be > very > helpful. He was also very cordial and helpful to my cousin when she > visited > the church and cemetery. > > Hope this helps... > Regards > Linda > > FYI - my Irish family names: Concannon, Holland, Mullins, Lally, > Broderick, > Moylan > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1961 - Release Date: 02/19/09 18:45:00

Kilbeacanty is a civil and RC parish in southeast Galway, while Gort is an RC parish just northwest of Kilbeacanty. However, Gort is also the name of a civil registration district, which includes Gort, Kilbeacanty, and many other parishes. Diane

repost that needs who is Linda On Feb 20, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Barbara Robinson wrote: > Linda > > Thank you for this information, I have had several of the LDS films > out for > these areas, Gort, Peterswell, CastleDaly and Adrahan and could not > find > anything, is Kilbeacanty in the same area as Gort as I notice it > mentions > the Church is listed under Gort. > > There was a person on the Galway list some years ago who said she > had this > family and would get back to me but never came back, even when I saw > her > reply to someone I went back and asked her but her reply was she was > too > busy and have not heard anything since. It has been very frustrating > not > being able to find Thomas and Sarah parents or where they came from. > > I have not been back to Ireland since I did a 4 day tour in 1996, we > did not > go near Galway but went across the southern part of Ireland. > > Barbara > BNE QLD AUS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] Peterswell and Adrahan, etc. > > >> >> In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:08:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> This is a problem we all have for our Irish research unless we have >> something definite about where they came from. >> >> I found a reference to a marriage of my g greats who married at >> Gort 17 >> March 1855, Thomas Cahill to Sarah Skehill according to the Catholic >> Church >> register. It said he was from Adrahan but nothing for Sarah. >> >> I hire the relevant LDS films for both Parishes, but could not find >> anything >> prior to their wedding as earlier books were missing for different >> reasons. >> >> Then I found a reference to a sister of Thomas, a Mary Cahill who >> married >> an >> Edward O'Brien at Castle Daly, again same story parish registers >> did not >> cover earler period, then when Mary died her husband said she was >> born at >> Peterswell, again cannot find any references on Parish films, >> early books >> missing. >> >> Thomas's parents according to Immigration film to Moreton Bay Qld >> said >> Patrick Cahill and Bridget O'Loughlin. >> >> Cannot find when Edward and Mary came to Qld. >> >> Still don't know where they were born or where the parents went to. >> >> Barbar >> BNE QLD AUS >> >> Where we have it all at present rain, floods, and fire >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:16 AM >> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question >> >> >>> Paddy, >>> >>> >>> This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? >>> Thank >>> you?for posting. >>> >>> >>> My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, >>> parish >>> my >> >>> Catholic ancestors >>> were from. >>> >>> >>> I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed >>> to have >>> originated in >>> Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 >>> on;??but >>> back in >>> the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. >>> >>> >>> My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you >>> suggest >>> how to proceed? >>> >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Marybeth C. >>> northeast Ohio >>> >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> ==================================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 >>> From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation >>> >>> >>> In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's >>> valuation can >>> provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see >>> www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent >>> primer >>> on >>> the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for >>> anyone >>> scanning the Griffith's tables). >>> >>> Paddy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: >> 02/18/09 >> 20:55:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> Parush records for Peterswell can be found under and at the >> church at >> Kilbeacanty - even today the parish priest serves both >> Peterswell, and >> Kilbeacanty. Here is the web link which gives info on the church - >> _http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618_ >> (http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618) >> >> LDS has several films that would be of interest to you for birth and >> marriages, but also look at the one for Land Valuations - i did >> and was >> able to >> locate my family's property on a map I purchased and also to see the >> neighbors >> and the chain of ownership for the properties. >> >> The RC church is St Columba - it is across the street from the Old >> Kilbeacanty Cemetery - look on Find A Grave (_www.findagrave.com_ >> (http://www.findagrave.com) ) as i have enetered a few graves from >> this >> cemetery on that site - >> I have spoken to Fr Callanan on several occasions and found him to >> be >> very >> helpful. He was also very cordial and helpful to my cousin when she >> visited >> the church and cemetery. >> >> Hope this helps... >> Regards >> Linda >> >> FYI - my Irish family names: Concannon, Holland, Mullins, Lally, >> Broderick, >> Moylan >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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This is a problem we all have for our Irish research unless we have something definite about where they came from. I found a reference to a marriage of my g greats who married at Gort 17 March 1855, Thomas Cahill to Sarah Skehill according to the Catholic Church register. It said he was from Adrahan but nothing for Sarah. I hire the relevant LDS films for both Parishes, but could not find anything prior to their wedding as earlier books were missing for different reasons. Then I found a reference to a sister of Thomas, a Mary Cahill who married an Edward O'Brien at Castle Daly, again same story parish registers did not cover earler period, then when Mary died her husband said she was born at Peterswell, again cannot find any references on Parish films, early books missing. Thomas's parents according to Immigration film to Moreton Bay Qld said Patrick Cahill and Bridget O'Loughlin. Cannot find when Edward and Mary came to Qld. Still don't know where they were born or where the parents went to. Barbar BNE QLD AUS Where we have it all at present rain, floods, and fire ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:16 AM Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question > Paddy, > > > This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank > you?for posting. > > > My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, parish my > Catholic ancestors > were from. > > > I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to have > originated in > Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 on;??but > back in > the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. > > > My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you suggest > how to proceed? > > > Many thanks. > > Marybeth C. > northeast Ohio > > ======================================================================== > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation > > > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy > > > -----Original Message----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 20:55:00

In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:08:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is a problem we all have for our Irish research unless we have something definite about where they came from. I found a reference to a marriage of my g greats who married at Gort 17 March 1855, Thomas Cahill to Sarah Skehill according to the Catholic Church register. It said he was from Adrahan but nothing for Sarah. I hire the relevant LDS films for both Parishes, but could not find anything prior to their wedding as earlier books were missing for different reasons. Then I found a reference to a sister of Thomas, a Mary Cahill who married an Edward O'Brien at Castle Daly, again same story parish registers did not cover earler period, then when Mary died her husband said she was born at Peterswell, again cannot find any references on Parish films, early books missing. Thomas's parents according to Immigration film to Moreton Bay Qld said Patrick Cahill and Bridget O'Loughlin. Cannot find when Edward and Mary came to Qld. Still don't know where they were born or where the parents went to. Barbar BNE QLD AUS Where we have it all at present rain, floods, and fire ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:16 AM Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith's Valuation question > Paddy, > > > This is a fine article; a bit lengthy, but well worth reading.? Thank > you?for posting. > > > My question is what do I do if I do not know what village, town, parish my > Catholic ancestors > were from. > > > I have DOLAN? GRIFFIN? HALL? KELLY? RICE ancestors, all believed to have > originated in > Co. Galway.? Have documented them in central and western PA, 1850 on;??but > back in > the homeland...?? it's overwhelming. > > > My guess is that these are rather common Irish surnames.? Can you suggest > how to proceed? > > > Many thanks. > > Marybeth C. > northeast Ohio > > ======================================================================== > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:40:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Casey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation > > > In addition to being a census substitute, the Griffith's valuation can > provide family history clues which cannot be found in a census (see > www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF , an excellent primer on > the Griffith's valuation and strongly recommended reading for anyone > scanning the Griffith's tables). > > Paddy > > > -----Original Message----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 20:55:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Parush records for Peterswell can be found under and at the church at Kilbeacanty - even today the parish priest serves both Peterswell, and Kilbeacanty. Here is the web link which gives info on the church - _http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618_ (http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=618) LDS has several films that would be of interest to you for birth and marriages, but also look at the one for Land Valuations - i did and was able to locate my family's property on a map I purchased and also to see the neighbors and the chain of ownership for the properties. The RC church is St Columba - it is across the street from the Old Kilbeacanty Cemetery - look on Find A Grave (_www.findagrave.com_ (http://www.findagrave.com) ) as i have enetered a few graves from this cemetery on that site - I have spoken to Fr Callanan on several occasions and found him to be very helpful. He was also very cordial and helpful to my cousin when she visited the church and cemetery. Hope this helps... Regards Linda FYI - my Irish family names: Concannon, Holland, Mullins, Lally, Broderick, Moylan **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

If you like the article about Griffith's Valuation, written by?James R. Reilly,?(referenced below) you'll love the book by the same author. It's an invaluable resource for an Irish researcher who needs to understand Griffith's Valuation.? The book is called "Richard Griffith & His Valuations of Ireland" and is available for $22.95?at www.Genealogical.com, Item #CF9371. Don't leave home without it. Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:09:08 -0800 From: Geralyn Barry <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-GALWAY] The Griffith's Valuation To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed James R. Reilly (who wrote the excellent article Paddy mentioned) also wrote a short book called Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland. It has even more information in the same vein as the article. You can see a preview of Reilly's book at Google books. The page views will be limited, but you can get a good idea of the usefulness of this book from what you can see online. I include below a link to the cover page, from which you can look at the Table of Contents and other available pages. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=MqAYwjPXVngC&dq=Richard+Griffith+and+His+Valuations+of+Ireland&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=0iUUHkm0mu&sig=93wQLYEkvVdeZPsfIzECHYSH7mk I recommend Reilly's book for anyone who wants to get more out of the entries in Griffith's Valuation and its supporting documents. The Valuation in Ireland was a complex thing. It is a record of property valuation and taxation, not a census. (And as with most taxation, it never ended!) It was begun in different years in different areas, and procedures changed when new laws were passed. The Valuation records include several different manuscript books which preceded (in time) the printed or published version, which is commonly called Griffith's. Griffith's was then followed by years of Valuation Revision lists (the taxes being updated, names of old owners being struck off the list and new owners being penciled in, etc), all the way to recent times. Many of these documents that precede or follow Griffith's are available through microfilms from The Family History Library. If you really want to understand the documents you are looking at, you need to know something about them. Read. The more you know, the more you will be able to deduce from reco rds. There is also an excellent article by David Ouimette (pronounced WE-MET) about the manuscript Valuation records (House Books, Field Books, Perambulation Books, etc.). It appeared in Vol. 27, No. 1 (Jan 2006) of The Septs, a publication of the Irish Genealogical Society International (IGSI), based in Minnesota, USA. If you are a member, you can access all the back issues of The Septs online at their website - including Ouimette's article. That is sometimes more convenient than searching for your dog-eared copy of a particular issue... I have to make a plug here for the IGSI (Irish Genealogical Society International). Their website is at http://www.irishgenealogical.org/. If you are a member, you can view and download any of the issues of IGSI?s quarterly journal The Septs since the beginning of its publication in 1980. It is a great publication, with many articles written by well-known Irish researchers. (So you could read David Ouimette's excellent article yourself online if you join.) They have been running a special on membership recently (not sure it is still going on) - get 2 others to join with you and you get your membership free. The details were at their website. There are many other reasons to join beyond receiving The Septs. They have a wonderful library in Minnesota, and the staff will do lookups for members for a nominal charge. Perhaps several people on the list will want to get together and join... I have been a member for many year and have benefited greatly. Regards, Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA