Stoke Ash is interesting. Derek's grandfather was a doctor in Kings Lynn (1 1/2 hr. drive away). My mother in law was told that there was some historical Gardiner connection to that part of England . What connection I have not a clue.   In Ireland Derek's great great Grandfather Arthur Stoker Gardiner (b. in Ireland 1818- d. in England 1886)  was also a Physician. And unusual for the time he had an MD. His older brother William Stoker Gardiner also had an MD and practiced in Cork. Their father's given name was John. Their mother was Elizabeth Stoker. (There was also an important Irish Doctor in the Stoker family, William Stoker who i believe was Elizabeth's brother.) The grandfather of John, Thomas and Robert was named Thomas Gardiner from Borris-In-Ossory in Queen's County. He has a will and appears to have been well-to-do.   The all certainly were C of I. We would love to know where Thomas Gardiner from Borris-In-Ossory in Queen's County came from. He most probably had brothers. (???) So far that is as far as we have gotten.    Someone taked about an Arthur Gardiner coming over to Ireland with the Earl of Essex in the 1600s. I cannot seem to confirm that.....    So Ninard if this helps great! If anyone else has any ideas please speak up. --- On Sun, 8/26/12, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage licenses To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 3:46 PM Hi again I do not know of an online resource for the licences themselves or even if they still exist Perhaps Christina knows ? My GARDINERs are from Stoke Ash back to  the 1600's but were very good at producing daughters so not many males were left, I have lost a William b1758 not sure where he got to but I think the others are accounted for, mine were C of E as far as I can tell, one or two were quite well off, one was a surgeon and chemist , my male line seems to die out towards the end of the 1800's (unless William managed more) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2012 20:16, SANDRA GARDINER wrote: > Nivard, > Our Gardiners left Ireland in the mid-to late 1800s and went to Southern England. > We have traced them bact to the mid 1700 in Ireland. > We believe that they had come from England because they were Anglican but we have not been able to prove that. > Do you have English Gardiners who came to Ireland? > > Oh my other question: > Is there a file on line that I could study re the late 1700s marriage licences? > Sandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message