Hi, I suggest you get the death certificate of susan. In New South Wales & Victoria the death certificate will give her age at marriage, husbands name, childrens names & ages, parents names (if known by informant). Regards Brenda, Melbourne. On 06/04/2012, at 6:48 AM, Gruppen@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Dear List > > Any tips, hints or tricks would be appreciated. Feel free to poke holes in > any of my assumptions. > > > Christopher Hamilton lived in Dublin from at least 1824 to the early > 1850's. > This is my ggg grandfather. I am related to his daughter Charlotte > Hamilton. > > Ok so this Christopher Hamilton left Dublin in the early 1850's and > apparently went to the Wexford area of Ireland before leaving for Sydney > Australia. Now he takes most of his family with him to Australia but not all. He > apparently leaves behind several female children with a relative of his > wife in Dublin (Mrs. Maquay could be his wife's mother) and with an in-law of > his daughter (Carroll) also in Dublin and both are at the same address (8 > Oriel Street Upper). This Carroll is a relative of Sparrow Carroll of > Enniscorthy near Wexford. Does this sound normal for this time and place? > > Now there is another Christopher Hamilton that shows up in the Dublin > Directories. He is a solicitor. My Christopher Hamilton's father was > Christopher Hamilton but I don't know if it is this Christopher Hamilton. I have a > brief index of his will but no one is mentioned in it. Any ideas on tracing > him? > > I have gone through the _http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/_ > (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/) . Christopher Hamilton's marriage to Susan > Maquay is not there. He may have married Roman Catholic as several of his > children born in the 1840's were baptized Roman Catholic. I found a number > of newspaper articles that mention him at > _http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search_ (http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search) . I have > tried to find as many Dublin Directories as I can their results are below. > Was it normal to switch religions like that? > > > > > His wife was Susan Maquay 1820 - 1908 died in Australia (death index) I > don't have the death record. Is this is correct then obviously she's too > young to be the mother of some of the children. > Children > > Henrietta Hamilton 1828 –? Australia > Charlotte Georganna Hamilton 1835 – 1898 married COI then to Canada > Emily Hamilton abt.1840 –? married COI Dublin then ? > Elizabeth Hamilton abt1852-? married in Dublin COI 1874 then? > Wilhelmina Hamilton 1841 – 1920 baptized Roman Catholic then to Australia > Susanna Hamilton 1841 –? baptized RC > Lydia Hamilton 1842 – 1926 baptized RC then to Australia > Mary Ann Hamilton 1846 – 1900 then to Australia > George William Nathaniel Hamilton 1848 – 1931 married in Anglican Church > Australia > Catherine Maria Hamilton 1850 – 1930 Australia > Samuel John Hamilton 1854 – 1931 Australia > > > > > > > > > Christopher Hamilton > > Birth 19 April 1789 in Exeter, Devon, England > Death 11 Jun 1858 in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia > > > > _ > > > > Timeline > > > > > > > > > 1789 19 Apr > > Birth_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20124589386) > _Exeter, Devon, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20124589386) > > > > > > > > 1789 19 Apr > > _Baptism_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20408186726) > _St. Paul, Exeter, Devon, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20408186726) > Name: Christopher Hamilton Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Apr > 1789 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT PAUL,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND Birth Date: > Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father: Christopher Hamilton > Mother: Mary > > > > > > > > 1801 > Age: 12 > > _Business_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20116372777) > _79 Castle Street Dublin_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20116372777) > Hamilton, Francis, Sadler, 79 Castle Street WIlson's Dublin Directory for > 1801 > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/directories/dublin-dir1801h.txt listed as & son later then there is a John Hamilton on that street > at a different address years later. This business also existed when > Christopher Hamilton saddler was in Dublin > > > > > > > > 1813 > Age: 24 > > _Marriage to Joanna Feake_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20373600386) ???? > _Dublin, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20373600386) > ????? see source on this page Dublin... > > > > > > > > 1824 > Age: 35 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20253622885) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20253622885) This is the second > document I have for him. A music business moved out of this address in 1821. > > > > > > > > 1829 > Age: 40 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20322755438) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20322755438) > Chris Hamilton saddler > http://books.google.com/books?num=20&id=I4LVAAAAMAAJ&q=hamilton+Francis#search_anchor > > > > > > > > 1832 > Age: 43 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20243241730) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20243241730) > 1832 Treble Almanack: Hamilton (Christopher) Harness and > Saddlery-warehouse, 27, lower Sackville-street. > http://books.google.com/books?id=OSwsAAAAMAAJ > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20243241730) > > > > > > > > > 1841 > Age: 52 > > > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) > _27 Sackville St. lower_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20233801869) > saddlery and harness warehouse Dublin Almanac and General Register of > Ireland for the Year of Our Lord 1841. See this book link below to right on > ancestry > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) > > > > > > > > > 1842 > Age: 53 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20342594692) > _36 Aughrim St. Dublin Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20342594692) > > > > > > > > 1842 > Age: 53 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20342599011) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20342599011) > Saddler & harness maker to his Excellency Earl De Grey > > > > > > > > 1845 > Age: 56 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20298002160) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20298002160) > Pettigrew's Directory > > > > > > > > 1845 > Age: 56 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20298006760) > _137 Aughrim St., Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20298006760) > Pettigrew's Directory > > > > > > > > 1846 > Age: 57 > > (http://trees.ancestry. > com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208619420) > Occupation > > 1846 Slater's national commercial directory of Ireland Hamilton > Christopher, saddler & harness maker, 27 Lower Sackviille SEE BOOK on Computer PDF > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208619420) > > > > > > > > > 1847 > Age: 58 > > > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dubln, Dubln, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20263003588) > Saddler and harness maker to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant. 80 pounds > 1847 Dublin Almanac & General Register for Ireland see pdf on computer > (found on Google books) same address The Misses Hamilton millinery & dress > warerooms > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > > > > > > > > > 1850 > Age: 61 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/12176269093) > _163 Great Britain St, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=12176269093) > Christopher Jr., 163 Great Britain St (saddler to the Lord Lieutenant) > and Christopher, 47 Lower Leeson St (solicitor) > http://www.dublin1850.com/dublin1850/xdubdir35.html#Hamilton > > > > > > > > 1851 > Age: 62 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208674823) > _8 Oriel St. Upper, Dublin Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20208674823) > 1851 Dublin City Census Christ. Hamilton 8 Oriel St. Upr. Parish: St. > Thomas'sNorth North/South of River Liffey: Dublin value 14 pounds according to > Griffith's (exact year unknown for Griffith's but he's not there then). > He's not in the 1852 Directory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1853 4 Feb > Age: 63 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208630493) > _8 Upper Oriel St, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20208630493) > address on Charlotte Hamilton's Marriage Certificate he's not there in > 1852 > http://books.google.com/ebooks/reader?id=518NAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&pg=GBS.PA1033 Mrs. Eliza Carrol 8 Oriel St. Seville place in > 1852 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1855 Mar > Age: 65 > > _Departure_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20187135415) > _Liverpool, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20187135415) > > > > > > > > 1855 16 Apr > Age: 65 > > _Immigration_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20170528309) > _Sydney, New South Wales, Australia_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20170528309) > RANDALL CHARLOTTE HAMILTON CHRISTOPHER HAMILTON SUSAN HAMILTON HENRIETTA > HAMILTON LYDIA HAMILTON WILHELMINE HAMILTON MARY ANN MARY HAMILTON GEORGE > HAMILTON CATHERINE HAMILTON SAMUEL http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1855/ > > > > > > > > 1855 16 Apr > Age: 65 > > _Arrival_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20187135416) > _Sydney, New South Wales_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20187135416) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1858 11 Jun > Age: 69 > > _Death_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20165957202) > _Sydney, New South Wales, Australia_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20165957202) > The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Tuesday 15 June 1858 On the > 11th June at his residence, 560, George-street, Mr. Christopher Hamilton, > aged 69 years, formerly of Dublin, Ireland. Illustrated Australian News for > Home Readers (Melbourne, > > > > > > > > 1858 13 Jun > > _Burial_ (http://t > rees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20287511985) > _Camperdown Cemetery Sydney NSW_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20287511985) > from his death certificate > > > > > > > > Matt Gajkowski > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message