Brenda Thanks. I tried that last week but that part of their web site was down due to problems. I tried again 2 days ago and it was working. I got Susan Maquay Hamilton's death record but somehow the informant (her eldest daughter) didn't know her parent's names. But that's ok because I dug around a bit and found the death certificate for Henrietta Hamilton (who was clearly too old to be Susan's daughter) and it listed her mother as Anna Seymour. This is much more likely my ggg grandmother. So now I have Christopher's first wife's name (hopefully there wasn't another one in there before Susan). Matt In a message dated 4/6/2012 7:29:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brendapilson@yahoo.com.au writes: Hi, I suggest you get the death certificate of susan. In New South Wales & Victoria the death certificate will give her age at marriage, husbands name, childrens names & ages, parents names (if known by informant). Regards Brenda, Melbourne. On 06/04/2012, at 6:48 AM, Gruppen@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Dear List > > Any tips, hints or tricks would be appreciated. Feel free to poke holes in > any of my assumptions. > > > Christopher Hamilton lived in Dublin from at least 1824 to the early > 1850's. > This is my ggg grandfather. I am related to his daughter Charlotte > Hamilton. > > Ok so this Christopher Hamilton left Dublin in the early 1850's and > apparently went to the Wexford area of Ireland before leaving for Sydney > Australia. Now he takes most of his family with him to Australia but not all. He > apparently leaves behind several female children with a relative of his > wife in Dublin (Mrs. Maquay could be his wife's mother) and with an in-law of > his daughter (Carroll) also in Dublin and both are at the same address (8 > Oriel Street Upper). This Carroll is a relative of Sparrow Carroll of > Enniscorthy near Wexford. Does this sound normal for this time and place? > > Now there is another Christopher Hamilton that shows up in the Dublin > Directories. He is a solicitor. My Christopher Hamilton's father was > Christopher Hamilton but I don't know if it is this Christopher Hamilton. I have a > brief index of his will but no one is mentioned in it. Any ideas on tracing > him? > > I have gone through the _http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/_ > (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/) . Christopher Hamilton's marriage to Susan > Maquay is not there. He may have married Roman Catholic as several of his > children born in the 1840's were baptized Roman Catholic. I found a number > of newspaper articles that mention him at > _http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search_ (http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search) . I have > tried to find as many Dublin Directories as I can their results are below. > Was it normal to switch religions like that? > > > > > His wife was Susan Maquay 1820 - 1908 died in Australia (death index) I > don't have the death record. Is this is correct then obviously she's too > young to be the mother of some of the children. > Children > > Henrietta Hamilton 1828 –? Australia > Charlotte Georganna Hamilton 1835 – 1898 married COI then to Canada > Emily Hamilton abt.1840 –? married COI Dublin then ? > Elizabeth Hamilton abt1852-? married in Dublin COI 1874 then? > Wilhelmina Hamilton 1841 – 1920 baptized Roman Catholic then to Australia > Susanna Hamilton 1841 –? baptized RC > Lydia Hamilton 1842 – 1926 baptized RC then to Australia > Mary Ann Hamilton 1846 – 1900 then to Australia > George William Nathaniel Hamilton 1848 – 1931 married in Anglican Church > Australia > Catherine Maria Hamilton 1850 – 1930 Australia > Samuel John Hamilton 1854 – 1931 Australia > > > > > > > > > Christopher Hamilton > > Birth 19 April 1789 in Exeter, Devon, England > Death 11 Jun 1858 in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia > > > > _ > > > > Timeline > > > > > > > > > 1789 19 Apr > > Birth_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20124589386) > _Exeter, Devon, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20124589386) > > > > > > > > 1789 19 Apr > > _Baptism_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20408186726) > _St. Paul, Exeter, Devon, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20408186726) > Name: Christopher Hamilton Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Apr > 1789 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT PAUL,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND Birth Date: > Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father: Christopher Hamilton > Mother: Mary > > > > > > > > 1801 > Age: 12 > > _Business_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20116372777) > _79 Castle Street Dublin_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20116372777) > Hamilton, Francis, Sadler, 79 Castle Street WIlson's Dublin Directory for > 1801 > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/directories/dublin-dir1801h.txt listed as & son later then there is a John Hamilton on that street > at a different address years later. This business also existed when > Christopher Hamilton saddler was in Dublin > > > > > > > > 1813 > Age: 24 > > _Marriage to Joanna Feake_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20373600386) ???? > _Dublin, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20373600386) > ????? see source on this page Dublin... > > > > > > > > 1824 > Age: 35 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20253622885) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20253622885) This is the second > document I have for him. A music business moved out of this address in 1821. > > > > > > > > 1829 > Age: 40 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20322755438) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20322755438) > Chris Hamilton saddler > http://books.google.com/books?num=20&id=I4LVAAAAMAAJ&q=hamilton+Francis#search_anchor > > > > > > > > 1832 > Age: 43 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20243241730) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20243241730) > 1832 Treble Almanack: Hamilton (Christopher) Harness and > Saddlery-warehouse, 27, lower Sackville-street. > http://books.google.com/books?id=OSwsAAAAMAAJ > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20243241730) > > > > > > > > > 1841 > Age: 52 > > > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) > _27 Sackville St. lower_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20233801869) > saddlery and harness warehouse Dublin Almanac and General Register of > Ireland for the Year of Our Lord 1841. See this book link below to right on > ancestry > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20233801869) > > > > > > > > > 1842 > Age: 53 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20342594692) > _36 Aughrim St. Dublin Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20342594692) > > > > > > > > 1842 > Age: 53 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20342599011) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20342599011) > Saddler & harness maker to his Excellency Earl De Grey > > > > > > > > 1845 > Age: 56 > > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20298002160) > _27 Lower Sackville, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20298002160) > Pettigrew's Directory > > > > > > > > 1845 > Age: 56 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20298006760) > _137 Aughrim St., Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20298006760) > Pettigrew's Directory > > > > > > > > 1846 > Age: 57 > > (http://trees.ancestry. > com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208619420) > Occupation > > 1846 Slater's national commercial directory of Ireland Hamilton > Christopher, saddler & harness maker, 27 Lower Sackviille SEE BOOK on Computer PDF > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208619420) > > > > > > > > > 1847 > Age: 58 > > > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > _Occupation_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > _27 Sackville St. lower, Dubln, Dubln, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20263003588) > Saddler and harness maker to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant. 80 pounds > 1847 Dublin Almanac & General Register for Ireland see pdf on computer > (found on Google books) same address The Misses Hamilton millinery & dress > warerooms > * _Photos (1)_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20263003588) > > > > > > > > > 1850 > Age: 61 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/12176269093) > _163 Great Britain St, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=12176269093) > Christopher Jr., 163 Great Britain St (saddler to the Lord Lieutenant) > and Christopher, 47 Lower Leeson St (solicitor) > http://www.dublin1850.com/dublin1850/xdubdir35.html#Hamilton > > > > > > > > 1851 > Age: 62 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208674823) > _8 Oriel St. Upper, Dublin Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20208674823) > 1851 Dublin City Census Christ. Hamilton 8 Oriel St. Upr. Parish: St. > Thomas'sNorth North/South of River Liffey: Dublin value 14 pounds according to > Griffith's (exact year unknown for Griffith's but he's not there then). > He's not in the 1852 Directory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1853 4 Feb > Age: 63 > > _Residence_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20208630493) > _8 Upper Oriel St, Dublin, Ireland_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20208630493) > address on Charlotte Hamilton's Marriage Certificate he's not there in > 1852 > http://books.google.com/ebooks/reader?id=518NAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&pg=GBS.PA1033 Mrs. Eliza Carrol 8 Oriel St. Seville place in > 1852 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1855 Mar > Age: 65 > > _Departure_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20187135415) > _Liverpool, England_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20187135415) > > > > > > > > 1855 16 Apr > Age: 65 > > _Immigration_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20170528309) > _Sydney, New South Wales, Australia_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20170528309) > RANDALL CHARLOTTE HAMILTON CHRISTOPHER HAMILTON SUSAN HAMILTON HENRIETTA > HAMILTON LYDIA HAMILTON WILHELMINE HAMILTON MARY ANN MARY HAMILTON GEORGE > HAMILTON CATHERINE HAMILTON SAMUEL http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1855/ > > > > > > > > 1855 16 Apr > Age: 65 > > _Arrival_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20187135416) > _Sydney, New South Wales_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20187135416) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1858 11 Jun > Age: 69 > > _Death_ > (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20165957202) > _Sydney, New South Wales, Australia_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20165957202) > The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Tuesday 15 June 1858 On the > 11th June at his residence, 560, George-street, Mr. Christopher Hamilton, > aged 69 years, formerly of Dublin, Ireland. Illustrated Australian News for > Home Readers (Melbourne, > > > > > > > > 1858 13 Jun > > _Burial_ (http://t > rees.ancestry.com/tree/10457980/person/363214573/fact/20287511985) > _Camperdown Cemetery Sydney NSW_ > (http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=10457980&pid=363214573&eid=20287511985) > from his death certificate > > > > > > > > Matt Gajkowski > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message