Hi List, Merry Christmas. I have a Baptism Certificate from St Andrew's Church in Westland Row, Dublin. I would really like to find the people that are mentioned in it. There is a Brigid Mary MORAN, daughter of Michael MORAN and Brigid FLANAGAN. Godparents are James MORAN, presumably Michael's brother/cousin/father etc, and Patricia FLOOD. They may have lived around Crumlin/Kimmage area of Dublin. The baptism took place on 15th October in 1942. Anyone with any ideas that would/could throw any light on this would be greatly appreciated. Kindest regards, Michael McAllister

I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, when they could have had the service performed surely at St. Agnes' Church in Crumlin? But perhaps that church was not yet built at that date. I'm asking around for you. (I have Moran acquaintances in Dublin whom I'll ask to see if they know anything.) Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Happy New Year Anthony, long time no see. Mea culpa, Iwas busy on the Scots line checking my paternal McQueens and got as far as I can go. Now I am concentrating on my maternal side, many born in Dublin like myself if you remember me from previous emails. How did your book fare, is it still selling. I got my BA degree from SFSU last year well 05 that is. Retired now not doing much staying with hubby more but I would like to take some classes in art and artists and maybe write about them. I hope I can get in to college again maybe only the 60 plus classes. Anyway I am sure you are not interested in my rambling on so much. I remember my mom telling me there are "Whites in the castle at Howth" I never asked what she really meant, thats the way we were in our childhood at least mine. Mom was Bridie White born Dublin 1898 died 1986 RIP. Her Dad was Patrick White born Raheny/Coolock area 1871 I found his baptism record at Clontarf church I found a White married to Allison St. Lawrence in 1500+ I have the record from LDS only. But I am going to concentrate on finding Whites in the Howth area. My grandad who lived with us until he died 1944 was a saint, I mean a good living and saintly person in life. His mom was Ann Fox and my nephew Graham told me she was said to be the oldest woman in Howth when she died. She had a sister Rose Fox married to Hartford of Hill of Howth. Grandad took me once to Ivy cottage to meet two aunts named Hartford. Sorry for rambling on Anthony. I am coming to Dublin in June next and will stay with cousin Gerry Loughrey Beaumont for a week or two and meet another cousin Mike Waters who will take me to New Ross to meet his Murphy family relatives. I found my ggrandmother was Bridget Murphy m. 1869 Rosbarecon, Wexford to Thomas Haberlin and my granny's parents. Good luck with your writing. I will have more time now for Dublin and Irish relatives, finished with the McQueen lot for now. Cheers, best of luck in the New Year to come soon. Regards, Patricia Rosset (McQueen) ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony J. Roche To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Debbie, many thanks for your reply. Kind regards and Happy New Year, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is > something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - > I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to > St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, when > they could have had the service performed surely at St. Agnes' Church > in Crumlin? But perhaps that church was not yet built at that date. > I'm asking around for you. (I have Moran acquaintances in Dublin whom > I'll ask to see if they know anything.) > > Debby Raymond, > Queensland, Australia. > > >